ECON April 9 Market Watch Thread

The Hammer

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Another big bad unemployment claims number.

But also word of a new lending program by the Fed.

So far, Dow UP 459. Gold up 46. Oil up 6%.
 

Groucho

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DOW now around +346
Silver at 15.77
Gold at 1681.

Looks like they want it to go positive before their day off tomorrow.

I'll help.


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Groucho

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Trouble is, nobody really knows what the market numbers mean. We don't know the value of the dollars are. With all this money printing we're doing, I'm very concerned that we're printing our way into hyper-inflation. That's where the "money" has no value at all. Nothing at all is backing it.

Smart remarks aside, this is wildly serious. Look at the Zimbabwe 100-million dollar notes. Not worth the paper they were printed on. Same with the Venezuelan Bolivar. The inflation hit 10-million percent. I don't even know what that means!

Problem is, if the USD goes into that dark night, the world will be pulled into the financial black hole that's formed. Right or wrong, the dollar is the reserve currency. Nobody else could do it. No one trusts the Chinese and their Yuan. They've been cooking the books for thousands of years. They default to dishonesty as a cultural norm, it seems. Germany? Russia? France? England? They're all basket cases right now just waiting for a slight gust of wind to put them in the abyss.

Yeah, keep on printing those dollars, suckers. Then we'll all get to know what it was like in the Weimar republic. That's something I was hoping to avoid.

So the DOW is up 408 at 23,844. So what? I remember when the DOW closed at just over 1000 for the first time in 1972.
Is the market that much more valuable or is the dollar worth that much less? Remember, we still manufactured almost everything back then and that was a real wealth added model. Now, we just trade paper.

Stuff is what's important. Shovels, paid off houses, toasters, ovens, weapons, and all the things it takes to live an independent life are important. A two dollar shovel back in 1972 dug the same hole as a $32 shovel will dig today. Thing is, the quality of toady's shovel isn't as good unless you really shell out some money. The shovel I bought in 1972 is still working. It was made by TrueTemper right here in Ohio. I remember the date because we had bought our first place and I needed a shovel and other implements.

Stay safe, get out of debt and find a good hidey hole. Oh, stay away from crowds.
 

Groucho

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Mrs. G. said we were having burgers tonight. I tried my hand at making the buns. Kinda rough looking.

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Groucho

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Closed up 285. Tune in Monday, boys and girls, for another exciting adventure of Pigsssss Onnn Wallstreet.
And remember, kids, keep an eye out for the secret clues we put out each day. Collect them all and get a secret message direct from your old pal, Cap'n Groucho. Send your answers along with five bucks to:
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The Hammer

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Closed up 285. Tune in Monday, boys and girls, for another exciting adventure of Pigsssss Onnn Wallstreet.
And remember, kids, keep an eye out for the secret clues we put out each day. Collect them all and get a secret message direct from your old pal, Cap'n Groucho. Send your answers along with five bucks to:
The Captain Groucho Show
555 Gypsum Street.
Grand Cayman Island. 55545
That wouldn't just happen to be the address of your Cayman bank account, would it???
 

Troke

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It has been about 70 years since I gave this any thought but I seem to remember that the Weimar inflation paid off a $1.00 debt with $.00001 = same value. That wiped out the German debt from WWI and gave Adolph free reign to rearm.

I have argued for some time that if servicing our debt becomes difficult, we will just inflate our way out of it. Tough on lenders, but people who have money to lend have too much money. Any Socialist will agree to that.
 

Dozdoats

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Look at the Zimbabwe 100-million dollar notes.

You sold too soon if you only got 100 million Zim dollar notes.

Mine are 100 TRILLION. :D
 

hiwall

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The Fed has barely put in another 2-1/2 trillion (at least what they show us here).

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Hi-D

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I would not worry too much about hyperinflation. Most of what you people think about inflation will end up in the toilet. They will try to make the balance sheet reflect the destruction. As far as the unemployment at around 6.5 mil. for two weeks, that is the limits of the system the number is greater.

 

Groucho

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It has been about 70 years since I gave this any thought but I seem to remember that the Weimar inflation paid off a $1.00 debt with $.00001 = same value. That wiped out the German debt from WWI and gave Adolph free reign to rearm.

I have argued for some time that if servicing our debt becomes difficult, we will just inflate our way out of it. Tough on lenders, but people who have money to lend have too much money. Any Socialist will agree to that.
Honestly don't know about that, but the Germans suffered horribly because of it. Another reason Hitler got in, perhaps. He looked good after the beating they took at the hands of the money masters.

And yes, bankers give banking a bad name, :lkick:
Look at the Zimbabwe 100-million dollar notes.

You sold too soon if you only got 100 million Zim dollar notes.

Mine are 100 TRILLION. :D
I meant 100 trillion. All those zeroes. Almost as many zeroes as we have in congress.
 
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