COMMUNISM Anti 2A attack via XPO logistics trucking company today at my shop

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Thinwater

Firearms Manufacturer
We needed to return three boxes of forgings (2 cases uppers, one half a box of lower receiver forgings) to a forge that sent us the wrong model. They were raw chunks of metal, 100% unmachined.

We loaded them into the semi that they sent (XPO Logistics). The driver came into the shop (after all was loaded in the rain and the forklift put away) inquiring if the boxes contained gun parts. We told him no, that it was just raw metal being returned to the company who sent it. He relayed this to his company via telephone and they asked if the metal was supposed to be made into gun parts. We answered that it was and they refused to transport the metal. They refused the shipment and we unloaded it into the parking lot.

I took pictures of the truck and us unloading it from the truck. This is once again the Biden and democrats attacking the 2nd amendment in every way that they can. Our credit card processor is cancelling us for selling 80% receivers and now the trucking companies are refusing to deal with us. We have been in business since 2008 and the Kommies are trying extra hard to shut us down.

We have some serious legal action coming for the alphabets via a huge law firm with a history of kicking their ass in court. We are not taking it laying down and are taking the fight to them. XPO.JPGXPO unloading.JPG
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Dobbin

Dobbin

Faithful Steed
So when did LED Light Fixture support brackets become firearms parts?

As you said it was "raw material." It could be made into stirrups and even spurs (Maker forbid) by a subdivision of your company.

It is not a concern of the shipping transport. They may have a policy of "no gun parts" - but isn't the translation to a gun part meeting the definition occur AFTER forming and machining?

Everything until this is "metal of unspecified destination."

And they're trying to assign your "intent" to places and items where it shouldn't be.

Maybe besides providing you intent, they would also like to cover your losses?

The lawyers will have fun with this one...

Dobbin
 
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Voortrekker

Veteran Member
XPO Logistics are and have been so woke since 2020 and they are out of control. They have denied (refused) loads driven by white men of a certain (undefined persuasion) without giving a reason. NOT WOKE!

There are so many carriers and LTL carriers who don't care what they are hauling so long as it is legal at the time of the order.
 
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Walrus

Veteran Member
Dobbin said:
So when did LED Light Fixture support brackets become firearms parts?

As you said it was "raw material." It could be made into stirrups and even spurs (Maker forbid) by a subdivision of your company.

It is not a concern of the shipping transport. They may have a policy of "no gun parts" - but isn't the translation to a gun part meeting the definition occur AFTER forming and machining?

Everything until this is "metal of unspecified destination."

And they're trying to assign your "intent" to places and items where it shouldn't be.

Maybe besides providing you intent, they would also like to cover your losses?

The lawyers will have fun with this one...

Dobbin
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That's true, Dobbin, and possibly would've worked. This time. But there'll be others; I tend to think that Thinwater & Co. did well to be straight up and have a plan to take it right to them. Having no subterfuge in the process will work to his advantage during the legal proceedings, I believe.
 
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Orion Commander

Veteran Member
Given the latest SCOTUS rulings lately wouldn't this also translate into right to manufacture legal parts? Especially parts without safety concerns.
 
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ghost

Veteran Member
Thinwater said:
We needed to return three boxes of forgings (2 cases uppers, one half a box of lower receiver forgings) to a forge that sent us the wrong model. They were raw chunks of metal, 100% unmachined.

We loaded them into the semi that they sent (XPO Logistics). The driver came into the shop (after all was loaded in the rain and the forklift put away) inquiring if the boxes contained gun parts. We told him no, that it was just raw metal being returned to the company who sent it. He relayed this to his company via telephone and they asked if the metal was supposed to be made into gun parts. We answered that it was and they refused to transport the metal. They refused the shipment and we unloaded it into the parking lot.

I took pictures of the truck and us unloading it from the truck. This is once again the Biden and democrats attacking the 2nd amendment in every way that they can. Our credit card processor is cancelling us for selling 80% receivers and now the trucking companies are refusing to deal with us. We have been in business since 2008 and the Kommies are trying extra hard to shut us down.

We have some serious legal action coming for the alphabets via a huge law firm with a history of kicking their ass in court. We are not taking it laying down and are taking the fight to them. View attachment 356097View attachment 356098
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Stand up and be your own lawyer, that too, will save you alot of cash.
If you are a man!!
 
155 arty

155 arty

Veteran Member
Thinwater said:
We needed to return three boxes of forgings (2 cases uppers, one half a box of lower receiver forgings) to a forge that sent us the wrong model. They were raw chunks of metal, 100% unmachined.

We loaded them into the semi that they sent (XPO Logistics). The driver came into the shop (after all was loaded in the rain and the forklift put away) inquiring if the boxes contained gun parts. We told him no, that it was just raw metal being returned to the company who sent it. He relayed this to his company via telephone and they asked if the metal was supposed to be made into gun parts. We answered that it was and they refused to transport the metal. They refused the shipment and we unloaded it into the parking lot.

I took pictures of the truck and us unloading it from the truck. This is once again the Biden and democrats attacking the 2nd amendment in every way that they can. Our credit card processor is cancelling us for selling 80% receivers and now the trucking companies are refusing to deal with us. We have been in business since 2008 and the Kommies are trying extra hard to shut us down.

We have some serious legal action coming for the alphabets via a huge law firm with a history of kicking their ass in court. We are not taking it laying down and are taking the fight to them. View attachment 356097View attachment 356098
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time to start shipping thru unmarked private "hotshot" carriers!
 
155 arty

155 arty

Veteran Member
Thinwater said:
We needed to return three boxes of forgings (2 cases uppers, one half a box of lower receiver forgings) to a forge that sent us the wrong model. They were raw chunks of metal, 100% unmachined.

We loaded them into the semi that they sent (XPO Logistics). The driver came into the shop (after all was loaded in the rain and the forklift put away) inquiring if the boxes contained gun parts. We told him no, that it was just raw metal being returned to the company who sent it. He relayed this to his company via telephone and they asked if the metal was supposed to be made into gun parts. We answered that it was and they refused to transport the metal. They refused the shipment and we unloaded it into the parking lot.

I took pictures of the truck and us unloading it from the truck. This is once again the Biden and democrats attacking the 2nd amendment in every way that they can. Our credit card processor is cancelling us for selling 80% receivers and now the trucking companies are refusing to deal with us. We have been in business since 2008 and the Kommies are trying extra hard to shut us down.

We have some serious legal action coming for the alphabets via a huge law firm with a history of kicking their ass in court. We are not taking it laying down and are taking the fight to them. View attachment 356097View attachment 356098
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where are you, I'm a insured private carrier
 
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mattbert

Veteran Member
Dennis Olson said:
That’s the equivalent of saying, “You don’t need a skipper to drive that supertanker. You can do it yourself, if you’re a man.”

I’ve read some nutty things written by people over the years, but that’s definitely in the top five.
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LOL.

I was talking with a correctional officer once when I was doing some jail ministry work. She was responsible for the prison library and getting inmates the books they request.

Many of these books turned out to be legal books. She chuckled and said the couple times she saw inmates self-represent because they had read some legal books, they generally earned themselves jail time… as I recall 20 years in one case and life in another.

Our legal system has very little to do with justice, and aside from the extremely few stories that inmates are successful in defending themselves, it rarely happens.

I would assume a situation like this would be every bit as bad.

mattbert
 
Blacknarwhal

Blacknarwhal

Let's Go Brandon!
mattbert said:
Our legal system has very little to do with justice, and aside from the extremely few stories that inmates are successful in defending themselves, it rarely happens.
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They say ignorance of the law is no excuse. I say it's the PERFECT excuse. Have you seen the law lately? It's like multiple phone books stitched together. And it's written in a language developed for lawyers, by lawyers. Regular people can't begin to hope to understand the law as it is.
 
Griz3752

Griz3752

Retired, practising Curmudgeon
XPO, or any other logistics company, needs federal licenses to operate. That makes them susceptible to pressure from the current anti-American administration. Just a fact of life.
It's also publicly traded so, to attract institutional investors, typically anti-2A in the main, the CEO may not have any options.

Bottom line, a business environment that won't support something embedded in The Constitution, is the issue.

We need to work to correct that!
 
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Publius

TB Fanatic
Seriously the Supreme Court ruling they did with the EPA V. West Virginia can be used to fight off the ATF.
Congress never gave them or any government agency the authority to make administrative law or promulgate law.
There is talk all over YouTube about this and they're all just waiting for someone to use it and make the firearms part of ATF useless.
 
Macgyver

Macgyver

Has No Life - Lives on TB
They got put on the truck they were received by the shipper, never should have taken them back off.
 
kyrsyan

kyrsyan

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Well, I know an independent who wouldn't have an issues with a load like that. It's probably be the lightest thing he's hauled in weeks.

Look to the independents. Even the small guys that are not full semi loads. You will surprised how many are coming back and don't have any "woke" issues.
 
Dennis Olson

Dennis Olson

Chief Curmudgeon
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Thin water, thinking about this some more. Since they were just blocks of metal, I’d have told him no, they had nothing to do with guns. If pressed, I’d further explain that what you’d ordered were gun parts, but that’s not what they sent, and you have no idea what these items are designed for.
 
Raggedyman

Raggedyman

Res ipsa loquitur
GB Appling said:
Folks the lines are becoming more clear by the day. Support those that support you. DO NOT DO BUSINESS WITH enemies of The Constitution. To OP Best of Luck with your battle. Surround yourself with wise counsel.
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more of that concept known as . . .
BECOMING
"WE"​
 
Dennis Olson

Dennis Olson

Chief Curmudgeon
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Raggedyman said:
for the benefit of dummies like me . . . .WTH is "ESG"??
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Dude, we’ve been discussing this for a couple years now.

Read the first couple paragraphs of the OP of this thread:

DEEP STATE - Florida: Gov. DeSantis fights leftist corporations’ attempts to use ESG to control how people live

Gov. DeSantis fights leftist corporations’ attempts to use ESG to control how people live Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis and Republican state lawmakers recently took a major step toward fighting back against woke corporations parroting Biden’s leftist agenda. According to a press release by...
www.timebomb2000.com www.timebomb2000.com

Keep up man. :p
 
kyrsyan

kyrsyan

Has No Life - Lives on TB
For those who may/may not be aware of it, SEC is trying to make ESG reporting mandatory as part of SEC filings. To the tune of costing more to handle than all other SEC paperwork filings per year, something like several billion dollars more per year IIRC. It's in committee hearings right now. And some of those hearings have had some interesting comments that make me want to wake up a few Congress critters to the realities of life, not the ivory tower delusions they are living in.
 
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