CORONA Alaskan village bans unvaccinated people from in-person shopping

[Jonas Parker]

Alaskan village bans unvaccinated people from in-person shopping - LifeSite

People who have not received experimental coronavirus shots, however, 'can still make phone orders and their orders are delivered to their home.'

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Alaskan village bans unvaccinated people from in-person shopping
People who have not received experimental coronavirus shots, however, 'can still make phone orders and their orders are delivered to their home.'
Thu Apr 22, 2021 - 2:18 pm EST By Victoria Gisondi

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BETHEL, Alaska, April 22, 2021, (LifeSiteNews) – Kongiganak, a village of fewer than 500 people in Alaska, is requiring inhabitants, the vast majority of whom are Native Americans, to be fully vaccinated to be eligible for any in-person shopping.

According to the AP, over a third of Kongiganak residents have contracted the Wuhan coronavirus and two have died from (or with) it. But it is unclear how many of those who supposedly contracted the virus had symptoms or if they were severe.

Sheila Phillip, the Kongiganak Traditional Council secretary, said, “people who are fully vaccinated can go inside the village's two stores if they wear masks and follow social distancing guidelines.”
People who have not received experimental coronavirus shots, however, “can still make phone orders and their orders are delivered to their home,” Phillip said.

Harvey Paul, general manager for Qemirtalek Coast Corporation, which sells groceries, allows only four people at a time into his store. Paul explained that a list is provided by the tribe with names of vaccinated people. Those entering the store need to be on the list to be allowed to shop.
“Every couple of days, they’ll give us a new list,” Paul said. “The list keeps getting bigger and bigger. That is a good sign, you know?” Paul believes forcing people to be vaccinated in order to buy food and other goods in-person is a good thing.

“It gives them the incentive, ‘Hey look, I better get vaccinated too so I can go to the store,’” Paul said. “The best way to curb this virus is to get vaccinated.

Nearby stores in the Bethel and other Yukon-Kuskokwim Delta villages allow non-vaccinated shoppers to enter the store. However, the Yukon-Kuskokwim Fitness Center is also practicing segregation. It reopened on March 1, but only to fully vaccinated individuals.

Fitness Center Facility Director Stacey Reardon explained in an interview with KYUK Public Media the plans for verifying vaccinated individuals: “At check in, everybody needs to show their CDC vaccination card and a photo ID.”

However, a building full of vaccinated-only people does not mean masks are optional. Reardon said, “Everybody needs to wear masks all the time. And there [are] only two exceptions to that: while swimming and while showering.”

It is unclear if any exceptions will be made for pregnant women or people who are allergic to ingredients in the coronavirus vaccines, which are not approved by the Food and Drug Administration but have only been granted Emergency Use Authorization (EUA). It is also unclear if people who went into anaphylactic shock right after receiving the vaccine or had another severe reaction to it and thus did not receive a second dose will ever be permitted in the “vaccinated-only” stores.

 

[packyderms_wife]

Sheila Phillip, the Kongiganak Traditional Council secretary, said, “people who are fully vaccinated can go inside the village's two stores if they wear masks and follow social distancing guidelines.”

People who have not received experimental coronavirus shots, however, “can still make phone orders and their orders are delivered to their home,” Phillip said.

Wanna bet she's not native american? Most of my NA family are refusing to take the white devils vaccine, they are fully convinced that what's being given to blacks and NA's is not the same vaccine that whites are getting.

 

[EMICT]

"Paul explained that a list is provided by the tribe with names of vaccinated people."
There should be a lawsuit for each and every name on that list due to violation of HIPAA.

 

[packyderms_wife]

"Paul explained that a list is provided by the tribe with names of vaccinated people."
There should be a lawsuit for each and every name on that list due to violation of HIPAA.

Agreed.

 

[mzkitty]

Canada is real bad now too, as is India. Canada halted plane flights from India and Pakistan yesterday.

It's all crazy.

 

[Red Baron]

Show us your papers!

 

[Dobbin]

An outright ban of the governmental kind by government is probably unconstitutional, certainly unenforceable.

A limited ban based on "remediation" is possible, providing it has limited duration. (I.e. 6 foot distancing, masks, plastic shields.)

Cow Hampshire had the limited ban - now lifted. This under the Governor's "Emergency Powers" which have to include a time duration. Individual stores conforming to the ban and now can impose any ban requirements they wish (No shirt, no shoes, no service, no smoking, no animals etc.) but they do this under "You enter a store at the convenience and invitation of the owner. " Their property. If you don't follow, you can be removed under trespass.

Extending the thought - is it possible to have store allow entry only by display of a "passport" or the inoculation card itself? This could be enforced by the store owners or by police under trespass charge, the police as the store agents, similarly to masks/distance/shirt/shoes etc.

A store owner should expect here to "press charges" like any trespass because if charges are dropped this then allows the trespassing customer to retaliate with "Wrongful detention/arrest." So a business owner should be sure first.

Dobbin
Reads too many legal books.

 

[EMICT]

An outright ban of the governmental kind by government is probably unconstitutional, certainly unenforceable.

A limited ban based on "remediation" is possible, providing it has limited duration. (I.e. 6 foot distancing, masks, plastic shields.)

Cow Hampshire had the limited ban - now lifted. This under the Governor's "Emergency Powers" which have to include a time duration. Individual stores conforming to the ban and now can impose any ban requirements they wish (No shirt, no shoes, no service, no smoking, no animals etc.) but they do this under "You enter a store at the convenience and invitation of the owner. " Their property. If you don't follow, you can be removed under trespass.

Extending the thought - is it possible to have store allow entry only by display of a "passport" or the inoculation card itself? This could be enforced by the store owners or by police under trespass charge, the police as the store agents, similarly to masks/distance/shirt/shoes etc.

A store owner should expect here to "press charges" like any trespass because if charges are dropped this then allows the trespassing customer to retaliate with "Wrongful detention/arrest." So a business owner should be sure first.

Dobbin
Reads too many legal books.

Requesting personal medical information, for any reason if you are not a direct patient care provider currently attending to you as a patient, is a violation of HIPAA. Can't ask without being in violation, can't look at patient history without being in violation, can't inquire without being in violation if the person being identified does not explicitly give permission for the inquiry.

Attempting to do so is a violation of HIPAA.

 

[EMICT]

Any attempt, knowingly, to require vaccination information prior to admittance, probably falls under category 4 of the following.

There four categories of HIPAA violations, each of which has a different penalty structure:

• Category 1: A violation that the covered entity was unaware of and could not have realistically know was a violation by exercising a reasonable amount of due diligence.
• Category 2: A violation that the covered entity should have been aware of but could not have prevented even with a reasonable amount of care. (but falling short of willful neglect of HIPAA Rules)
• Category 3: A violation that occurred due to “willful neglect” of HIPAA Rules, in cases where efforts have been made to address the violation within 30 days
• Category 4: A violation of HIPAA Rules constituting willful neglect, where no efforts have been made to correct the violation in a reasonable time frame

Penalties:

• Category 1: $100 minimum fine per violation, $50,000 maximum fine
• Category 2: $1,000 minimum fine per violation, $50,000 maximum fine
• Category 3: $10,000 minimum fine per violation, $50,000 maximum fine
• Category 4: $50,000 minimum fine per violation

 

[Henry Bowman]

An outright ban of the governmental kind by government is probably unconstitutional, certainly unenforceable.

A limited ban based on "remediation" is possible, providing it has limited duration. (I.e. 6 foot distancing, masks, plastic shields.)

Cow Hampshire had the limited ban - now lifted. This under the Governor's "Emergency Powers" which have to include a time duration. Individual stores conforming to the ban and now can impose any ban requirements they wish (No shirt, no shoes, no service, no smoking, no animals etc.) but they do this under "You enter a store at the convenience and invitation of the owner. " Their property. If you don't follow, you can be removed under trespass.

Extending the thought - is it possible to have store allow entry only by display of a "passport" or the inoculation card itself? This could be enforced by the store owners or by police under trespass charge, the police as the store agents, similarly to masks/distance/shirt/shoes etc.

A store owner should expect here to "press charges" like any trespass because if charges are dropped this then allows the trespassing customer to retaliate with "Wrongful detention/arrest." So a business owner should be sure first.

Dobbin
Reads too many legal books.

There is a ban on election fraud too .

They don't care what is Constitutional or enforceable. You useless eaters be damned.

No better way to starve us out than to not let us buy things ...ya know , without Government approved papers or a vaccination...ya know....dare I say....Mark.

 

[SmithJ]

"Paul explained that a list is provided by the tribe with names of vaccinated people."
There should be a lawsuit for each and every name on that list due to violation of HIPAA.

The tribe can do whatever it wants. They are not subject to HIPPA.

 

[Jubilee on Earth]

Coming soon to a town or city near you.

When I tell people that I can’t take the vaccine due to my allergy condition (and I wouldn’t take it anyway even if I didn’t have this condition), I get looks of pity. As if imagining the sad life I’ll lead in the future not being able to shop or attend concerts or go to sporting events.

I’m just over here smiling and thinking, “As an INTJ, I have the perfect excuse not to socialize for the rest of my life.”

 

[SmithJ]

Also, HIPPA doesn’t apply when .gov doesn’t want it to apply:

Implications for Public Health
The Privacy Rule strikes a balance between protecting patient information and allowing traditional public health activities to continue. Generally, disclosure of protected health information without the authorization of the individual is permitted for purposes including but not limited to:

1. disclosures required by law (45 CFR § 164.512(a)) or
2. for “public health activities and purposes.” This includes disclosure to “a public health authority that is authorized by law to collect or receive such information for the purpose of preventing or controlling disease, injury, or disability, including but not limited to, the reporting of disease, injury, vital events…, and the conduct of public health surveillance,… investigations, and… interventions.” (45 CFR § 164.512(b)(i))

HIPAA Overview and Vaccine Administration | CDC

HIPAA Overview

www.cdc.gov

 

[vessie]

"Paul explained that a list is provided by the tribe with names of vaccinated people."
There should be a lawsuit for each and every name on that list due to violation of HIPAA.

Except when it comes to many laws, they think it doesn’t apply to us ‘Skin’s. V

 

[EMICT]

The tribe can do whatever it wants. They are not subject to HIPPA.

If the businesses are not tribal owned and managed, then there 'may' be a problem with receiving the information.

 

[SmithJ]

If the businesses are not tribal owned and managed, then there 'may' be a problem with receiving the information.

See post 13; if the tribal health service releases the info there’s no recourse. HIPPA simply doesn’t apply when .gov decides it’s a matter of public health.

You are still under the misconception that the rules apply to everyone equally........

 

[EMICT]

Also, HIPPA doesn’t apply when .gov doesn’t want it to apply:

Implications for Public Health
The Privacy Rule strikes a balance between protecting patient information and allowing traditional public health activities to continue. Generally, disclosure of protected health information without the authorization of the individual is permitted for purposes including but not limited to:

1. disclosures required by law (45 CFR § 164.512(a)) or
2. for “public health activities and purposes.” This includes disclosure to “a public health authority that is authorized by law to collect or receive such information for the purpose of preventing or controlling disease, injury, or disability, including but not limited to, the reporting of disease, injury, vital events…, and the conduct of public health surveillance,… investigations, and… interventions.” (45 CFR § 164.512(b)(i))

HIPAA Overview and Vaccine Administration | CDC

HIPAA Overview

www.cdc.gov

Never knew a grocery store to be referred to as a “a public health authority".

 

[SmithJ]

Never knew a grocery store to be referred to as a “a public health authority".

 

[Salal Sue]

My church (which I will not name) is only opening to fully vaccinated people. Over a month ago we were requested to inform our deacon if we were vaccinated. Photos were requested of individuals being vaccinated, but not required, think this for a video. If people did not have a photo of the actual vaccination it was suggested to take a photo pointing to the arm that was vaccinated. Church is available online to everyone. I am not vaccinated and while I think I understand the reasoning for this decision, and did not plan on resuming attendance anyway while this pandemic is affecting our community, something feels amiss.

Wondering how long the vaccination requirement will last to attend church. I seldom go out anyway for anything. Maybe eventually I will need to find a small home church.

 

[Blacknarwhal]

Lawsuits, lawsuits, lawsuits. First for HIPAA, then for religious discrimination.

 

[AlaskaSue]

Understanding that the off-road villages that dot the state have little - or very difficult - access to health care, I'm aware that a very large majority of Native Alaskans have now received the vax due to pressure to protect the village. Sadly, many of these villages have gone fully liberal regarding freedoms vs state care. As an Alaskan, I have a great deal of respect and love for the Inuit, Athabaskan, Aleut, Tlingit and Haida...but this type of thinking (...it's an incentive!) is just another symptom of the sad decline we see all over, not just this state.

I do feel their leaders are trying to do the best thing according to their knowledge - but that doesn't always mean that independent thought and research have been pursued. I don't have a good feeling about this ~~

 

[Publius]

Kind of reminds me of the aids thing when it was said to be killing gay man left and right. People were demanding to know who had aids so they could ban them from their stores or not hire them for a job and so on.
So now we have this mystery disease that no one on the planet has yet to find and identify to make lab cultures of it or have they done this years ago and they are not telling? I still think this is a variant of the common flu and again they are not telling.

 

[Looks Harmless]

The tribe can do whatever it wants. They are not subject to HIPPA.

Then they can't blame it on... ?

 

[Freeholder]

Wanna bet she's not native american? Most of my NA family are refusing to take the white devils vaccine, they are fully convinced that what's being given to blacks and NA's is not the same vaccine that whites are getting.

Your NA family are wise. However, the lady in question probably is NA -- the tribal organizations in Alaska don't often hire outside their tribes.

Kathleen

 

[WalknTrot]

A tribal gov is gonna do what a tribal gov is gonna do. Let 'em be.

The local band here has been pretty strict with their folks, but they have not lost even ONE elder to Covid.

 

[TammyinWI]

"Paul explained that a list is provided by the tribe with names of vaccinated people."
There should be a lawsuit for each and every name on that list due to violation of HIPAA.

That's right!

The whole thing is a violation under HIPAA and the ADA. Lawsuits should abound, anywhere, that they try this!

 

[primaryteach]

My church (which I will not name) is only opening to fully vaccinated people. Over a month ago we were requested to inform our deacon if we were vaccinated. Photos were requested of individuals being vaccinated, but not required, think this for a video. If people did not have a photo of the actual vaccination it was suggested to take a photo pointing to the arm that was vaccinated. Church is available online to everyone. I am not vaccinated and while I think I understand the reasoning for this decision, and did not plan on resuming attendance anyway while this pandemic is affecting our community, something feels amiss.

Wondering how long the vaccination requirement will last to attend church. I seldom go out anyway for anything. Maybe eventually I will need to find a small home church.

Time to look for another church. I pastor a smaller rural church and it is none of my business who has received the vaccine. The doors are open for all to hear the Gospel message. This is so wrong!

 

[City Marm]

Amen Preacher!!!

 

[Dozdoats]

If you thought "military intelligence" was an oxymoron, try "tribal government" ...

 

[dstraito]

and yet it is the vaccinated that will start dropping lke flies

 

[Mprepared]

and yet it is the vaccinated that will start dropping lke flies

That's what I think.

 

[Abe Froman]

In twelve months, they won't have much business at their store.

 

[AlaskaSue]

In twelve months, they won't have much business at their store.

Have you ever seen a grocery in an Alaskan village of 500? I do not think it means what you think it means.....

 

[medic38572]

Have you ever seen a grocery in an Alaskan village of 500? I do not think it means what you think it means.....

But he thinks there will not be anyone there to buy groceries!

 

[Creedmoor]

Is this village on a reservation? If not, I would think fed and state law re HIPPA would apply.

 

[AlaskaSue]

Is this village on a reservation? If not, I would think fed and state law re HIPPA would apply.

Great question...I don't think most are on 'reservations' up here. Kind of different from NA in other states. But there may yet be some. Most still live as they have for many generations ~ Living as they have for many, many years - but it does preclude a LOT of health care; hence the difficulty which cv presents ~

 

[ivantherussian03]

The governor told the villages they can’t restrict people

 

[Old Gray Mare]

Guys in this case please try to see this from the other side. During the 1918 Influenza pandemic entire villages were close to wiped out. 90% fatalities were a thing. There were reports of outsiders coming into villages and finding only a few kids left alive.* These stories have been passed down to present generations.

Not pushing the vaccine just trying to rationalize their possible motivation in taking the vaccine.

*Further reading: "The Great Influenza : The Story of the Deadliest Pandemic in History" - by John M. Barry

 

[Publius]

But can they prove and back up what they are pushing for because as of now the vaccine does not stop the flu or virus from spreading, in fact the vaccine may kill you in the long run if not right away.

 

[ivantherussian03]

The governor restated his position. Nothing changed.