About those beef logs

Cardinal

Chickministrator
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You know, those big 'summer sausages' already full of all those good nitrates. What would be a good way to preserve them further? They will probably last at least two years as is. The expiration date on the one I have is in 07. But I'd like to keep them longer. If I were to mylar bag-o2 absorb and stick them in a 5-gal bucket as they are-still wrapped in plastic, would they last?
 

A.T.Hagan

Inactive
They're already vac sealed in plastic and full of preservatives so I think about the only practical thing that you could do to keep them longer is to refrigerate them. I've gotten a good year from them in my storage cabinets. Two years in the fridge before I finally got them all eaten. Probably would have gone three with no problem.

.....Alan.
 

SmartAZ

Membership Revoked
Here's an experiment: Cut off a chunk and put in a warm humid place. If it molds, it's food and worth preserving. If it doesn't mold, it isn't worth preserving.
 

Cardinal

Chickministrator
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SmartAZ said:
Here's an experiment: Cut off a chunk and put in a warm humid place. If it molds, it's food and worth preserving. If it doesn't mold, it isn't worth preserving.

What, and lose my source of daily nitrates/nitrites?:lol:
Actually, I found some bacon that is preservativeless, and I am going to can some.
I think these beef logs are just a huge sausage. I could probably can them too.
A lot of work tho, if I could find another way.
 

WalknTrot

Veteran Member
I keep them in the fridge. There are enough preservatives in them that they do keep well for a long time. Even homemade sausages (like my German Grandpa used to make) kept for a long time in a cool place. He used only pepper and salt for preservative and sealed them in natural casings. Sometimes they were smoked, sometimes not.

Summer sausage may not be the heathiest thing in the world, but surely no worse than any other so-called "lunch meat" or Spam. They go real well in homemade scalloped potatoes, beans, pea soup, pizza, Italian soups, spagetti sauce, sliced and fried up with breakfast, or on saltines for a quick lunch.

If the power goes out, it's one thing in the fridge you know will last a while longer just moved to a pantry shelf.
 

Cardinal

Chickministrator
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WalknTrot said:
I keep them in the fridge. There are enough preservatives in them that they do keep well for a long time. Even homemade sausages (like my German Grandpa used to make) kept for a long time in a cool place. He used only pepper and salt for preservative and sealed them in natural casings. Sometimes they were smoked, sometimes not.

Summer sausage may not be the heathiest thing in the world, but surely no worse than any other so-called "lunch meat" or Spam. They go real well in homemade scalloped potatoes, beans, pea soup, pizza, Italian soups, spagetti sauce, sliced and fried up with breakfast, or on saltines for a quick lunch.

If the power goes out, it's one thing in the fridge you know will last a while longer just moved to a pantry shelf.

Well, now that is interesting info, all your grampa used was pepper and salt.
 

WalknTrot

Veteran Member
Well, the use of nitrates and nitrites to cure meat (like the Morton quick-cure stuff) is fairly recent. Historically, sausage recipes used spices, salt, a high fat content, and drying or smoking to preserve the encased meat. Old World sausages are not a lot different than American Indian pemmican in a lot of respects. Pemmican is pulverized meat, deer or bear tallow, and some dried berries packed in hide bags. That stuff was reported to have lasted years in caches used by trappers and explorers.

I was lucky enough to spend some time in Germany as a foolish youth and had sense enough to make a little study of locally made sausages...went along with my appreciation for small town German beer joints. ;) They all seemed to serve a local sausage they were especially proud of, and I figured with enough beer consumption nothing they came up with would kill me. One that really interested me was sliced liverwurst served in a pickling brine not unlike the brine used here on pickled herring. It was a sweetened, salted vinegar base with onions and peppercorns. I wondered at the time if that was an old way of preserving the more perishable sausage (liverwurst, bloodwurst) without refridgeration. Sure was tasty!
 

Cardinal

Chickministrator
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WalknTrot said:
Well, the use of nitrates and nitrites to cure meat (like the Morton quick-cure stuff) is fairly recent. Historically, sausage recipes used spices, salt, a high fat content, and drying or smoking to preserve the encased meat. Old World sausages are not a lot different than American Indian pemmican in a lot of respects. Pemmican is pulverized meat, deer or bear tallow, and some dried berries packed in hide bags. That stuff was reported to have lasted years in caches used by trappers and explorers.

I was lucky enough to spend some time in Germany as a foolish youth and had sense enough to make a little study of locally made sausages...went along with my appreciation for small town German beer joints. ;) They all seemed to serve a local sausage they were especially proud of, and I figured with enough beer consumption nothing they came up with would kill me. One that really interested me was sliced liverwurst served in a pickling brine not unlike the brine used here on pickled herring. It was a sweetened, salted vinegar base with onions and peppercorns. I wondered at the time if that was an old way of preserving the more perishable sausage (liverwurst, bloodwurst) without refridgeration. Sure was tasty!


I'll bet! I love liverwurst. I have read about the pemmican. Dried parched corn was another food that would last for ages and was used as a traveler's food.
I had a chance to sample some buffalo sausage on Friday, and it tasted very much like those beef logs I like.
 
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