EBOLA >70% death rate, no treatment, palliative care only, WHY SEND MDs & Rns to Africa?

[ainitfunny]

It is time for common sense and A REALITY CHECK!

#1. 80% of the Ebola infected cases ARE UNCOUNTED, NOT IN ANY MEDICAL CONTROL OR CARE.

#2. Even trying to provide "palliative" (comfort) care for the 20% has completely overwhelmed the African heallth care system. Even burial teams are insufficient to the task they face.

#3. Mathematically, at the EXPONENTIAL rate that Ebola is SPREADING there, there will be 1.4 MILLION EBOLA CASES by This coming January!

#4. GET REAL, SENDING 300 to-X Thousands of US MEDICAL PROFESSIONALS to Africa to basically "hold the hands of dying Ebola victims" WILL DO ABSOLUTELY NOTHING AT ALL TO "Stop Ebola at the SOURCE -AFRICA!"

#5. They do not NEED MEDICAL PROFESSIONALS FOR PALLIATIVE CARE! They can TRAIN AFRICAN VOLUNTEERS IN A FEW DAYS to offer rehydration fluids to the sick, and give them a Tylenol or two a day, and to clean up the amazing amounts of bloody projectile vomit and the bloody explosive diarrhea these patients generate daily until they die.

#6. UNTIL A reasonably effective EBOLA treatment is discovered THAT CAN BE IMPLEMENTED IN, AND UNDER REALLY PRIMITIVE MEDICAL TREATMENT CONDITIONS, WE WASTE HIGHLY OVERTRAINED (for the actual job they do) US MEDICAL STAFF, AND further endanger our own citizens by frequent monthly rotations exposing our medical people and then bringing them home to POTENTIALLY infect others HERE.

#7. Unless we develop AND DISTRIBUTE A vaccine IN THE NEXT FEW WEEKS we should simply LOCK DOWN THE EXIT OF ANYONE FROM THE HOT ZONES.

That is what OTHER AFRICAN NATIONS are doing to save THEIR citizens!! Didn't you WONDER why the infected do NOT RUN TO SOUTH AFRICA, A nearby FIRST WORLD NATION for treatment? They are denied entry, Even if they GET(sneak) IN, they will NOT be "treated" beyond palliative care, in a treatment center, not in one of their first world South African hospitals!

So, STOP the "hero doctor/nurse" BS!
We CANNOT STOP THE EPIDEMIC THERE.

LOOK AT 1.4 MILLION CASES projected BY this coming January, and know NOTHING we ARE DOING, or can do between now and January will change that number, and GET HEADS OUT OF POLITICALLY CORRECT, SAPPY SENTIMENTAL NETHER PARTS, AND START IMPLEMENTING MEASURES TO NOT SHARE THE SAME FATE IN THE USA!!

African Ebola will have to "burn itself out", till everyone there either survives it, is immune, or dies of it, deal with it, now or later.

 

[L.A.B.]

The real question is why bring them back?

 

[Homesteader]

Good thread. Until you mentioned it, I hadn't though about it in those terms. But you are 100% right. Why are we sending doctors over there to treat Ebola?

 

[kittyknits]

It is time for common sense and A REALITY CHECK!

African Ebola will have to "burn itself out", till everyone there either survives it, is immune, or dies of it, deal with it, now or later.

I truly believe that because of the way it is all being handled in this country, unless things change, this will be the fate of the USA as well.

 

[Housecarl]

Why is Obama sending US military then?...

- Attempting to get ahead of the outbreak where it still can be done to minimize the potential of worse mutations of the virus.

- "Image" vs "reality".

- "Live fire" exercise akin to the Operation Desert Rock nuclear weapons tests and military maneuvers at the Nevada Proving Grounds between 1951 and 1957. A "golden opportunity" for the people at Fort Detrick to gather "real" data as well as develop processes, procedures and possible treatment regimens.

 

[Mulder]

Why is Obama sending US military then?...

- "Live fire" exercise akin to the Operation Desert Rock nuclear weapons tests and military maneuvers at the Nevada Proving Grounds between 1951 and 1957. A "golden opportunity" for the people at Fort Detrick to gather "real" data as well as develop processes, procedures and possible treatment regimens.

That is one possibility which hadn't occurred to me yet. And unfortunately I think that you might be onto something here.

 

[33dInd]

Why is Obama sending US military then?....

Even more important......why are we sending the crack 101st airborne.
This is a highly trained and highly equipped COMBAT division.
They don't do medical
They don't build things.

They break and they kill.

So why the 101?

 

[Betty_Rose]

Why is Obama sending US military then?...

- Attempting to get ahead of the outbreak where it still can be done to minimize the potential of worse mutations of the virus.

- "Image" vs "reality".

- "Live fire" exercise akin to the Operation Desert Rock nuclear weapons tests and military maneuvers at the Nevada Proving Grounds between 1951 and 1957. A "golden opportunity" for the people at Fort Detrick to gather "real" data as well as develop processes, procedures and possible treatment regimens.

I'm missing something. Why send our military into a disease-laden filthy third-world country? To give them experience in dealing with Ebola?

This doesn't make sense to me. We live in a first-world country. What commonalities do we share with hovel-hospitals in Africa?

 

[Knoxville's Joker]

Unless they want to kill off the 101st Airborne. A unit with that history has strong ties to the country, more so than the government I would imagine.

 

[MtnGal]

Even more important......why are we sending the crack 101st airborne.
This is a highly trained and highly equipped COMBAT division.
They don't do medical
They don't build things.

They break and they kill.

So why the 101?

They still believe in the Constitution and will be out of commission to aid when O unleashes tshtf here at home. There is most definitely madness in his motive.

 

[Housecarl]

I'm missing something. Why send our military into a disease-laden filthy third-world country? To give them experience in dealing with Ebola?

This doesn't make sense to me. We live in a first-world country. What commonalities do we share with hovel-hospitals in Africa?

Bioweapons are a lot easier to manufacture than nukes. This could be seen as prep for a full on strategic bioweapons attack.

 

[Housecarl]

Even more important......why are we sending the crack 101st airborne.
This is a highly trained and highly equipped COMBAT division.
They don't do medical
They don't build things.

They break and they kill.

So why the 101?

Security for the Ft. Detrick personnel.

 

[The Mountain]

To answer the OP question:

~70% fatality means ~30% survival, and those 30% are likely to be in bad shape once the initial infection has run its course. Lots of opportunity for bacterial infection (which *is* treatable). Also, on humanitarian grounds, the local medical establishment is overwhelmed. US docs are (or at least were until recently) some of the best in the world, Obamacare notwithstanding, so having them on-site will be a net positive.

I agree that it's dumb to *force* docs to go there, but I'm all for any doc who wants to help voluntarily going there. I also agree that the choice of mil forces being sent there makes little to no sense on the surface. A reaction force for a mass disease like that would IMHO be better comprised of medics to triage the sick and engineers to mass-bury the dead. The only reason I could see for having combat troops there is that a mass outbreak like this is enormously destabilizing (not much has been made yet about the impending famine and the drastically weakened countries this disease will leave in its wake), and having some heavy force in the area might be enough to dissuade anyone from getting froggy.

 

[undead]

Why is Obama sending US military then?...

- Attempting to get ahead of the outbreak where it still can be done to minimize the potential of worse mutations of the virus.

- "Image" vs "reality".

- "Live fire" exercise akin to the Operation Desert Rock nuclear weapons tests and military maneuvers at the Nevada Proving Grounds between 1951 and 1957. A "golden opportunity" for the people at Fort Detrick to gather "real" data as well as develop processes, procedures and possible treatment regimens.

My opinion...

Obama is sending the military in order to reinforce the notion that the military is primarily an outreach of the UN, and can be used at will for worldwide "humanitarian" activities, which will become its primary mission instead of the defense of the US.

de-fang them, feminize them, and eliminate them as an impediment

 

[FROG]

My opinion...

Obama is sending the military in order to reinforce the notion that the military is primarily an outreach of the UN, and can be used at will for worldwide "humanitarian" activities, which will become its primary mission instead of the defense of the US.

That really sounds right.

 

[Virtualco]

" >70% death rate, no treatment, palliative care only, WHY SEND MDs & Rns to Africa?"

Hmm, never thought of it that way. Good Point!

 

[LightEcho]

Humanitarian purposes? Like we did in Iraq or Syria? Rwanda? Maybe like we are doing for the white farmers being murdered in Africa?

Nahhh.... there is something else afoot.

 

[Publius]

Most weatern governments can air drop all the necessary equipment for first rate field hospitals and have teams to set them up and then pull out when their done.

 

[Moggy]

Maybe what is afoot is sending our troops, who will be vaccinated with some vile ingredients, so that when they return to the states the vile ingredients can be activated in some way (chemtrails?) to the end that the military, disbursed across the country, will be carriers of disease to all with whom they come in contact.

 

[ainitfunny]

Maybe what is afoot is sending our troops, who will be vaccinated with some vile ingredients, so that when they return to the states the vile ingredients can be activated in some way (chemtrails?) to the end that the military, disbursed across the country, will be carriers of disease to all with whom they come in contact.

I find that a bit "tin foil hat" departure into pure, (unsupported by any facts,) woo woo panic mongering.
Thing are not already (and heading) bad enough for you?

 

[Oreally]

doesn't matter now, though good points.

this is moving so fast, and the gov't is so stupid, incompetent and bureaucratized, that i am sure not many more HCW will make it to the area before it hits the explosive point in january. By ten, thousands of infected, about to be infected, and everyone else will be fleeing the three countries i droves, in all directions, bu especially north i across the sahara into europe.

all this is theater now.

 

[Faroe]

I find that a bit "tin foil hat" departure into pure, (unsupported by any facts,) woo woo panic mongering.
Thing are not already (and heading) bad enough for you?

She did qualify it with a "maybe."

What is going on doesn't make any sense. It hasn't for a long time. I remember accounts back earlier in the summer where Western medical personell were going from village to village to "help," and the hostile Africans were accusing the "humanitarians" of spreading it to other villages. Well yeah. People ment well, but they should have left it alone.

 

[Cohickman]

101st in africa= quarantine and containment of indigenous personnel

 

[Meemur]

I like: stop the strikes at the diamond mines and militarize the country. The troops are there to work for the banksters, not as part of any humanitarian effort, which is just window dressing.

This action wasn't Obama's idea. The banksters put O's handlers up to it.

The US soldiers in this exercise are regarded as expendable.

 

[Meadowlark]

Thats so they can bring ebola back here and spread it as far and wide as possible, ideally in red states though it seems to spread nicely in New York City (I am still working on that part of the theory). If enough ebola momentum builds, the quarrantines will have to be put in place and all elections postponed till its over, if and whenever that is. My two scents.

 

[Nowski]

Even more important......why are we sending the crack 101st airborne.
This is a highly trained and highly equipped COMBAT division.
They don't do medical
They don't build things.

They break and they kill.

So why the 101?

For the same reason that Klintoon sent the Army Rangers to Somalia in 1993.

1. They have to pander to their base.
2. They hate the US military.
3. They need as many disease vectors as possible in the ole USA.

Remember this one fact, they hate you, and they want as many of us dead as possible.

The people that currently control this country are pure evil. There have been evil people
in charge of this country before, but not at this level of evil.

Regards to all,
Nowski

 

[jed turtle]

allow me to bump my

Modest Proposal To Solve The Present Crisis

http://www.timebomb2000.com/vb/show...he-present-crisis&highlight=a+modest+proposal

 

[Doomer Doug]

You are missing the entire PC, open border, multicultural, diversity mindset in near total control of the Western World, amigo. It is an absolute requirement for the PC crowd to help "save" Africa. The secular, uber liberal multicultural political groups have combined with the Christians, like Samaritan's Purse, the Lutherans in their fetish to help anywhere but in the USA.

"They" will continue to send in US troops, likely the ones most like to resist Obama, along with all types of medical supplies and people because to do otherwise would shatter the foundations of their belief systems.

The blunt truth is Ebola is highlighting the total failure of the so called African governments to be anything other than corrupt regimes full of incompetent fools lining their own pockets.

Africa is a cesspool of tribal hatred, corrupt governments, and poor people. This is the reality for both Africa and many other third world countries. The globalist elite is ONLY concerned with resource extraction in Africa. They don't care how badly the majority of the people live, nor how corrupt the local government is, as long as it allows them to continue making money.

Africa is a rich continent, and it should have people with a much higher standard of living than now. The reason it doesn't relates to the fact that even after Colonization ended the basic tribal hatreds and corruption are now endemic.

The military maxim, "Never reinforce failure" comes to mind. The West, especially the USA under Obama, will continue to pour in people and medical supplies because if they do not they will admit something is fundamentally wrong with the African people. That heresy can never be accepted by Obama in my opinion.

Ebola is running unchecked in Africa. It will eventually kill tens of millions, maybe even hundreds of millions of Africans, and there is really nothing we can do about it. We can't admit that single fact because if we do it mean Western superiority, namely White/Caucasian superiority is defined against Black/African inferiority. Yep, we are going to ride the mulitcultural/diversity mindset all the way down into social anarchy and chaos.

The PC mindset will be overthrown before it is ever reformed.

 

[Broccoli]

Excellent point AIF, just why are we doing this? The sad realization is that we have sent all of the equipment and supplies that we will desperately need in a few months. Hospitals already cannot order enough Tyvek suits, China quit selling and what we did have we shipped to Africa.

The fire is just starting to burn.

 

[LightEcho]

There is no justification for our government to forcefully take money from its citizens and give it to foreign governments.

There are some good mineral deposits in that area. This could also be a counter to the Chinese. Whatever the reason, I see no good coming from this.

 

[medic38572]

Excellent thread ainitfunny. But the answer is this!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9BNoNFKCBI