FASCISM 4th Grader Suspended After Moving BB Gun from Brother's Way in virtual class - UPDATE, post 41

[Cacheman]

School District That Suspended Kids Over BB Guns At Home Forced To Pay Up

The Louisiana school district has settled with the parents and avoided a civil trial over the suspensions.

bearingarms.com

School District That Suspended Kids Over BB Guns At Home Forced To Pay Up
Cam Edwards

3-4 minutes


You may recall the story of Ka’Mauri Harrison, the Louisiana elementary school student who was suspended from school last year after a teacher briefly spotted a BB gun in Harrison’s room during a virtual class session. Harrison had simply picked up the BB gun from the floor of his bedroom and put it away so that his younger brother wouldn’t trip over it, but the mere sight of the BB gun through the boy’s laptop camera was enough to cause the Jefferson Parish School District to claim that Harrison had violated the district’s weapons policy, and they barred from attending class, even online, for several weeks.

Not long afterwards, a sixth grader in the same district was suspended for basically the same reason; an accidental and brief display of a BB gun. Tomie Brown’s parents ended up suing the school district in federal court, along with Ka’Mauri’s parents, and earlier this week the Jefferson Parish School Board decided to settle the lawsuit instead of trying to defend the actions of the teacher and superintendent in court.

The board agreed to pay Harrison’s family $92,500 and Brown’s family $72,500.

In addition, the board agreed to change disciplinary records of both students to say they were suspended for disruptive conduct, removing any reference to weapons.

“The School Board and Harrison-Williams and Brown families are pleased that they were able to reach a resolution and can now refocus on the education of Jefferson Parish students in an orderly, safe and welcoming environment in both virtual and non-virtual classroom settings,” attorneys for the school board and the families said in a joint statement.

The school board was criticized by the American Civil Liberties Union and the National Rifle Association for the suspensions, which applied policies banning weapons at school or at school-sponsored events to children learning from home during the coronavirus pandemic.

When both the ACLU and the NRA can agree that a decision was out of line, you know there’s something crummy going on. It’s not surprising to see the school board settle, since they very well could have been forced to pay out even more if the civil suit had gone to trial. I’d say the school board got off easy, frankly. It’s not my lawsuit, and both sets of parents agreed to the settlement, but I don’t think Harrison or Brown should have been suspended in the first place, and it’s disappointing that the two kids are still going to have disciplinary records at all over what should have been a non-event.

Hopefully this type of issue won’t be a problem in the coming school year and kids can get back in the classroom. The CDC’s guidance promoting a return to the classroom is a welcome sign, and the nation’s largest teachers unions have fallen in line (at least for now), with both the NEA and ATF issuing supportive statements about the guidelines. Parents and students are going to have plenty to worry about when school begins (including what, exactly is in the curriculum), but a suspension for a BB gun in the background of a Zoom call shouldn’t be one of the things keeping them up at night.

 

[Luddite]

 

[summerthyme]

I'd love to be purely happy about this, but then I realize they will be using taxpayer money to pay the settlement...

It needs to start coming out of their own pockets!

Summerthyme

 

[Publius]

The school records should show the kids was wrongly suspended and nothing less.

 

[CaryC]

When families learn that some of those things they think are "necessities" really aren't. We've gotten by on one income so I could homeschool our children for 32 years. It can be done, it's just a matter of being willing to sacrifice. Last one is in 10th grade this year so I'm about ready for retirement lol!

We actually calculated the cost.

2nd Car, which also means 2nd ins. 2nd tag, 2nd gas, tires, oil.
2nd set of clothes for work. which means dressy for office, and ALL the accessories that go with "dressy for office" (shoes purse, ear rings etc. for each set of dressy clothes)
2nd set of Purchase lunch, or carry lunch.
Until the boys were old enough to stay by themselves the cost of a baby sitter after school. AND before they were old enough to go school a full time baby sitter, Nursery.

And the number one overwhelming factor:

The health of the children. They stayed sick, a lot being around other children that were sick from one thing or another, and were in the doctors office a lot. The cost of the doctors visit, while there, wasn't even a factor. This while they were in a nursery.

It was cheaper on us for SB to be a stay at home mom. Even though the children did go to school.

I wasn't a meanie, WE decided it, around our kitchen table.

WE eventually did get a second car. Knowing we would always have a car payment. We bought a car, paid it off, and then bought another. While keeping the first car. I would always get the older car, which would be 4-5 years old when I had it. Mostly had the second car for emergencies. Car break down that I drove, or one of the kids needed something while I was at work. things like that. We never put a lot of miles on the new car because SB never went anywhere. So when I got it, it was low mileage.

My car now is a Jeep Liberty. 2002 with 135,000 miles on it. 19 years old.

Not only can it be done, but it was beneficial for us. Money wise. Granted we didn't have all the wiz bang stuff every one else did, but we had healthy kids. Mentally and physically, for which we are very thankful. It was worth it.

 

[Henry Bowman]

I'd love to be purely happy about this, but then I realize they will be using taxpayer money to pay the settlement...

It needs to start coming out of their own pockets!

Summerthyme

Agreed.

Those who were involved with the suspension need to be held personally responsible.

They have no skin in the game, they will just do it or something like it again and again.

 

[Dennis Olson]

Every family should have two cars. “Two is one; one is none” - prepping mantra.

 

[summerthyme]

Every family should have two cars. “Two is one; one is none” - prepping mantra.

That's a damned expensive "reserve prep" if you rarely use a second vehicle! Most folks can call a friend for an occasional lift or help.

Summerthyme

 

[Dennis Olson]

Get a cheap one.

 

[Millwright]

Costs me less than $300/yr to keep my spare legal.

Some years I don't drive it.

 

[WiWatcher]

The two kids records should be completey cleared or amended by indicate the school was wrong. There should be a specific public statement from the school that they were wrong and created harm to the children and their families. I am sick of these settlements that have no admission of wrong doing and are either payments to go away or to avoid greater cost in litigation. oh, and where is the apology? I never read about one in the article.

 

[Kathy in FL]

I'd love to be purely happy about this, but then I realize they will be using taxpayer money to pay the settlement...

It needs to start coming out of their own pockets!

Summerthyme

Geez, isn't this the truth. Easy to pay up when it isn't your bank account.

 

[packyderms_wife]

Every family should have two cars. “Two is one; one is none” - prepping mantra.

This^^^ I have a friend who is single who has two vehicles, one is an old beater pick up truck, and I think she drives it more than her car.

 

[packyderms_wife]

That's a damned expensive "reserve prep" if you rarely use a second vehicle! Most folks can call a friend for an occasional lift or help.

Summerthyme

I did this for six years, which basically made me totally reliant on my best friend and OC when he wasn't working. It was stressful for everyone, and even more so for me when I was in PT. Now I have my own car again and that equals freedom!

 

[packyderms_wife]

Costs me less than $300/yr to keep my spare legal.

Some years I don't drive it.

My spare, the Ranger is all paid for except for the annual plate fee of $50 and the monthly insurances that are required to keep it street legal. OC is driving it now, I have my Nox.

 

[packyderms_wife]

Geez, isn't this the truth. Easy to pay up when it isn't your bank account.

Property taxes in that county just went up.

 

[Terriannie]

The school records should show the kids was wrongly suspended and nothing less.

I agree. They did nothing wrong unless they cursed the teachers out lower than a dog when confronted but I highly doubt that. I live in Louisiana.

When I drove a school bus a few years ago, a student called me a M.F. B##ch and he didn't even get a day suspension! New policy at the time required at least 6 write-ups before any disciplinary action!!!

Yeah, after the kid bounced on the bus the next day, victoriously grinning like a Cheshire Cat and knowing there would be more of that type of behavior to be allowed on the horizon, I decided then and there to finish up the last few weeks of the school year and hand in my keys for early retirement.

No doubt in my mind, the disciplinary record for these kids is pure retaliation.

 

[compchyk]

This^^^ I have a friend who is single who has two vehicles, one is an old beater pick up truck, and I think she drives it more than her car.

yep that would be me also - a beater honda civic and a new (to me) ford explorer

 

[summerthyme]

I did this for six years, which basically made me totally reliant on my best friend and OC when he wasn't working. It was stressful for everyone, and even more so for me when I was in PT. Now I have my own car again and that equals freedom!

I very much understand. But I also understand that a second car is a luxury, and a very expensive one. It's one of those "wants" that have turned into a "need" as lives changed and credit got more available. It's absolutely a PITA (especially if you're rural) to not have a vehicle available if you have a sudden need to go somewhere, but until around 40 years ago, it was more the exception if the family didn't have two people working.

Summerthyme

 

[Old Gray Mare]

The two kids records should be completey cleared or amended by indicate the school was wrong. There should be a specific public statement from the school that they were wrong and created harm to the children and their families. I am sick of these settlements that have no admission of wrong doing and are either payments to go away or to avoid greater cost in litigation. oh, and where is the apology? I never read about one in the article.

I didn't read anything about the Quisling teacher getting fired or at least a reprimand in their record either.

 

[Countrymouse]

School District That Suspended Kids Over BB Guns At Home Forced To Pay Up

The Louisiana school district has settled with the parents and avoided a civil trial over the suspensions.

bearingarms.com

School District That Suspended Kids Over BB Guns At Home Forced To Pay Up
Cam Edwards

3-4 minutes


You may recall the story of Ka’Mauri Harrison, the Louisiana elementary school student who was suspended from school last year after a teacher briefly spotted a BB gun in Harrison’s room during a virtual class session. Harrison had simply picked up the BB gun from the floor of his bedroom and put it away so that his younger brother wouldn’t trip over it, but the mere sight of the BB gun through the boy’s laptop camera was enough to cause the Jefferson Parish School District to claim that Harrison had violated the district’s weapons policy, and they barred from attending class, even online, for several weeks.

Not long afterwards, a sixth grader in the same district was suspended for basically the same reason; an accidental and brief display of a BB gun. Tomie Brown’s parents ended up suing the school district in federal court, along with Ka’Mauri’s parents, and earlier this week the Jefferson Parish School Board decided to settle the lawsuit instead of trying to defend the actions of the teacher and superintendent in court.






When both the ACLU and the NRA can agree that a decision was out of line, you know there’s something crummy going on. It’s not surprising to see the school board settle, since they very well could have been forced to pay out even more if the civil suit had gone to trial. I’d say the school board got off easy, frankly. It’s not my lawsuit, and both sets of parents agreed to the settlement, but I don’t think Harrison or Brown should have been suspended in the first place, and it’s disappointing that the two kids are still going to have disciplinary records at all over what should have been a non-event.

Hopefully this type of issue won’t be a problem in the coming school year and kids can get back in the classroom. The CDC’s guidance promoting a return to the classroom is a welcome sign, and the nation’s largest teachers unions have fallen in line (at least for now), with both the NEA and ATF issuing supportive statements about the guidelines. Parents and students are going to have plenty to worry about when school begins (including what, exactly is in the curriculum), but a suspension for a BB gun in the background of a Zoom call shouldn’t be one of the things keeping them up at night.

BUT the students' records were not CLEARED.

They were STILL listed as having committed "Disruptive Conduct"---when it was the TEACHER (if anyone) who "disrupted" the class, by even calling attention to something a child had in the PRIVACY OF HIS OWN HOME.

This "virtual schooling" has done even more than just the corona vax to make it clear that, to the govt now in power, YOU have NO rights AT ALL--your BODY belongs to the State, your HOME belongs to the State, and THEY have the right to DICTATE TOTALLY what you do with / in BOTH.

 

[packyderms_wife]

I very much understand. But I also understand that a second car is a luxury, and a very expensive one. It's one of those "wants" that have turned into a "need" as lives changed and credit got more available. It's absolutely a PITA (especially if you're rural) to not have a vehicle available if you have a sudden need to go somewhere, but until around 40 years ago, it was more the exception if the family didn't have two people working.

Summerthyme

That was 40 years ago, that world no longer exists.

 

[Tripod]

There is no such thing as a "cheap car".
Mike

 

[summerthyme]

That was 40 years ago, that world no longer exists.

Sure does, but not in heavily populated areas.

Summerthyme

 

[Dennis Olson]

I very much understand. But I also understand that a second car is a luxury, and a very expensive one. It's one of those "wants" that have turned into a "need" as lives changed and credit got more available. It's absolutely a PITA (especially if you're rural) to not have a vehicle available if you have a sudden need to go somewhere, but until around 40 years ago, it was more the exception if the family didn't have two people working.

Summerthyme

Evidently, you and I have a different view of “very expensive.” Please define that term in more detail. (Legit question. I’m interested in knowing what you think is so expensive.)

 

[summerthyme]

Evidently, you and I have a different view of “very expensive.” Please define that term in more detail. (Legit question. I’m interested in knowing what you think is so expensive.)

Really? The cheapest running car is gonna run you 3-4k. insurance runs *at least* another $600 a year- lots more if you want collision or comp. Registration and required yearly inspections (THE main reason you can't find cheap older vehicles they can't pass the emissions inspections)

Not to mention the worst thing you can do to a car is let it sit! Our *main* vehicle rarely got over 5000 miles a year on it... we sold our 2001 GMC 4x4 pickup in September and it had 98,000 on it... was out main vehicle (but not our only) for 20 years. That included years I drove all over the Northeast for fairs and cattle shows.

For most folks, keeping a "spare" car on hand is just a huge money sink. If necessary, you could rent a vehicle for a few days, for far less than your "just in case" vehicle will cost.

Summerthyme

 

[zeker]

That is very good an noble. It would be the right thing to do. But in these days they would have you arrested and thrown in jail for threatening or whatever. And you would not find any justice. The progressives have destroyed the entire system.

and your kids taken and indoctrinated against you

and taught to spy on you

 

[zeker]

I have a world map on my wall, but -- yeah -- I may need to take that down at some point.

Parents (and students) all need to take a few minutes the night before or right before class time and do a little quick housekeeping, even if the camera is facing the wall. Anything questionable should be put away. An ounce of prevention . . .

it better be up to date

with Wakanda front and centre

 

[zeker]

I have a world map on my wall, but -- yeah -- I may need to take that down at some point.

Parents (and students) all need to take a few minutes the night before or right before class time and do a little quick housekeeping, even if the camera is facing the wall. Anything questionable should be put away. An ounce of prevention . . .

A family on manitoulin island (largest freshwater island in the world) northern ontario

but y'all knew that

the family raised chickens

the girls wanted to sell their eggs on facebook

so they set up a display in the garage (dad's man cave)

they took photos of the many colored eggs and posted them for sale

less than 20 min later the shytstorm begaN

apparently, in the corner of the photo, there was a tiny section of the rebel flag that dad had in his workshop

not the whole flag

the girls could not figure what the hate was all about

the cries of RACIST etc

none of the haters wanted to hear about an honest mistake

these philistines needed to be punished

it didnt take long, but the community rallied around these girls

and the haters were vanquished to the nethers

 

[packyderms_wife]

Really? The cheapest running car is gonna run you 3-4k. insurance runs *at least* another $600 a year- lots more if you want collision or comp. Registration and required yearly inspections (THE main reason you can't find cheap older vehicles they can't pass the emissions inspections)

Okay that's the problem, you're a new yorker... we don't have vehicle inspections here, nada, zip, zilch. Unless the truck needs a new clutch this year my expenses for it will be less than 3K total and that includes, plates, insurance, pusholine, and oil changes. That's mighty cheap insurance if you ask me, and the upside is we'll be able to put the new upright freezer in it tomorrow cause that sucker ain't gonna fit in my Nox.

 

[Dennis Olson]

Really? The cheapest running car is gonna run you 3-4k. insurance runs *at least* another $600 a year- lots more if you want collision or comp. Registration and required yearly inspections (THE main reason you can't find cheap older vehicles they can't pass the emissions inspections)

Now I get it. You’re behind communist lines.

You can get a beater down here for under a grand. Unless you’re in Travis, Williamson or Harris counties no emission inspection. Annual inspection is $7.00. Annual registration is $75. If you weren’t so damned pig-headed you could GTFO of that sh*t-hole state.

 

[summerthyme]

Exactly. One more reason well get out of this crappy state ASAP.

Summerthyme

 

[marsofold]

You gotta have a spare to get to work if the primary vehicle isn't running. Otherwise you are betting your job on a piece of machinery. Not a good situation. Run the spare once a week to keep the battery charged.

 

[artichoke]

The two kids records should be completey cleared or amended by indicate the school was wrong. There should be a specific public statement from the school that they were wrong and created harm to the children and their families. I am sick of these settlements that have no admission of wrong doing and are either payments to go away or to avoid greater cost in litigation. oh, and where is the apology? I never read about one in the article.

For their college applications, unless their names are public or obtainable in social media (in which case the college admissions offices might find them) the record should be expunged. Then they never have to report any suspension. Being a hero and suing and winning against the school district isn't what the college admissions offices are looking for.

 

[artichoke]

You gotta have a spare to get to work if the primary vehicle isn't running. Otherwise you are betting your job on a piece of machinery. Not a good situation. Run the spare once a week to keep the battery charged.

Yes, you can *maybe* get by with one car if it's a brand new car under warranty. It's cheaper to have two beaters, and more functional if there's more than one driver in the family.