CORP/BIZ AT&T spinning off DirecTV after losing millions of customers

Millwright

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AT&T is spinning off its DirecTV into a new company for a fraction of the $48.5 billion it paid for the satellite TV service in 2015.

DirecTV has lost millions of customers on AT&T’s watch, and is valued in the deal at just $16.25 billion, including debt.
Private equity firm TPG will own 30% of the business, while AT&T holds the rest. The telecom company will receive $7.8 billion in cash, including $1.8 billion from TPG and and $5.8 billion from the new DirecTV firm, which is borrowing that sum. The new DirecTV will also take on $200 million in debt from AT&T.

AT&T launched its streaming service HBO Max last year and has focused on building that business. It also owns TV networks like CNN and TBS along with the Warner Bros. movie studio in addition to its huge wireless and internet business.

AT&T said the deal will strengthen its balance sheet and let it focus on the expensive task of upgrading its wireless network with next-generation 5G technology. That update requires expensive investments in radio spectrum — it just spent $23.4 billion for bandwidth in the latest U.S. government auction — and AT&T also plans to plow more resources into fiber-optic internet infrastructure and HBO Max.

AT&T will use the deal proceeds to pay down debt.

The new DirecTV company will include AT&T TV, a streaming version of cable TV, and U-verse, AT&T’s older cable service. AT&T will retain its Latin America DirecTV business. AT&T said it expects “few to no changes” for subscribers. The deal is expected to close in the second half of the year.

“It’s fair to say that some aspects of the (DirecTV) transaction have not played out as we had planned, such as pay TV households in the U.S. declining at a faster pace across the industry than anticipated,” AT&T wrote.

U.S. and Canadian subscribers to cable or satellite television services dropped by 27 million between 2010 and 2020, and fell by 6 million in 2020 alone, said Digital TV Research. A burst of new streaming services have recently emerged to compete with Netflix, including HBO Max, Disney+ and NBCUniversal’s Peacock. AT&T’s video business has lost 6.7 million customers over the past two years, and claimed 17.2 million subscribers at the end of 2020.


 

Luddite

Veteran Member
Not surprised. Co-worker went with dishnetwork.
Got locals and a few decent channels for some ungodly low number , something around 10 bucks per month.

My directv is around 100!
I called them looking for a lower deal, my requirements were oann, Newsmax, and hallmark (don't ask).
Two representatives and 30 minutes of my time and they were pleased to tell me I could save 20 bucks a month.

I told them my next call would be to cancel. Just haven't got around to it yet.
 

Josie

Has No Life - Lives on TB
My son got suckered into DirectTV when he moved to a new city. The deal sounded great on paper. But now he's just biding his time till the contract is up. I was there once babysitting and it was storming like crazy. The tv reception kept tiling and going out. I called him and he said that yeah, that happens and he has to go out and knock all the water off the dish. Has to do the same with any snow that collects on it, too. Well, since it was pouring down, I wasn't about to do that.
 
Awesome, F DTV. Had to have it for awhile a year ago, got rid of it as soon as I could, what a waste.
 

night driver

ESFP adrift in INTJ sea
NOTE that the surviving spin off is saddled with a CRIPPLING debt load and is likely to go tits up in record time.
 
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scooter123

Contributing Member
Wife and I cut the DTV cord and have no regrets. Streaming on Roku with Amazon, Netflix. Also found out our TV will pick up TV signals wirelessly from the router, so there is tons of selections there. I think DTV is done for.
 

Chapulin

Veteran Member
The article says ATT was paying down debt thanks to the deal. It also said ATT dumped a huge debt on the new company. Pay down, right.
 

nomifyle

TB Fanatic
we live in the woods and do not have unlimited wifi, so we cannot stream anything. Last time I looked Dish does not have OANN and that is the only news channel I watch. So we are stuck with directv and hughesnet.

God is good all the time

Judy
 

oleglass

Contributing Member
Just yesterday had our DIRECTV canceled and went with dish.
Lots more channels for less money. Reception much better. Our internet is just horrible, DSL from frontier, so cannot stream anything.
 

oleglass

Contributing Member
we live in the woods and do not have unlimited wifi, so we cannot stream anything. Last time I looked Dish does not have OANN and that is the only news channel I watch. So we are stuck with directv and hughesnet.

God is good all the time

Judy
We also wanted OANN, but was not worth keeping DIRECTV..
Purchase our Dish service from a local business, when I asked about OANN he said they were in talks to add to DISH service. Guess we will see if it happens.
 

nomifyle

TB Fanatic
We also wanted OANN, but was not worth keeping DIRECTV..
Purchase our Dish service from a local business, when I asked about OANN he said they were in talks to add to DISH service. Guess we will see if it happens.
Guess I'm hard headed because I'm not signing up for anything that does not have OANN. And I've not seen especially lower prices with DISH than directv.

Come to think of it for the $100 a month we are paying for tv, we could be buying a wagon load of old movies and tv series.

God is good all the time

Judy
 
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TerriHaute

Hoosier Gardener
We had DirectTV for several years after we moved out into a rural area. We finally realized that it was way too expensive for the amount of time we were watching TV. All those channels and there were only 4 or 5 that we were watching consistently aside from network TV, and then not all that much. We cut the cord about 5 years ago and have not missed it. Our over the air antenna pulls in over 50 channels and we still don't watch a lot of TV. We can stream what we want on our Roku TV and our hobbies and other interests keep us too busy to watch much TV most of the year.
 

TerriHaute

Hoosier Gardener
Guess I'm hard headed because I'm not signing up for anything that does not have OANN. And I've not seen especially lower prices with DISH than directv.

Come to think of it for the $100 a month we are paying for tv, we could be buying a wagon load of old movies and tv series.

God is good all the time

Judy
If you have a smart TV that streams, like a Roku, you can get OANN as a stand-alone app for $5 a month.
 

packyderms_wife

Neither here nor there.
Wife and I cut the DTV cord and have no regrets. Streaming on Roku with Amazon, Netflix. Also found out our TV will pick up TV signals wirelessly from the router, so there is tons of selections there. I think DTV is done for.

I know a lot of people who are doing this and are using their phones as a hot spot to stream roku type channels onto their tv's. My bestie does this, they live out in the sticks, and she's able to get a ton of stuff they couldn't get with DTV and for a heck of a lot less money, I think they burned their dish in the burn pile last spring.
 

Southside

Has No Life - Lives on TB
What the heck is this suppose to mean?
Simple. Do you think more, or less people watch TV today, vs. 10 years ago?
The platform(TV) is dying. It will be replaced by the computer, your smart phone, Hulu, etc.
Some of those MAY use your TV, but the old platform of ABC, CBS, NBC, and Fox are going to die on the vine, or at least change in a drastic way.
And it can't happen too soon!

Southside
 

Double_A

TB Fanatic
Simple. Do you think more, or less people watch TV today, vs. 10 years ago?
The platform(TV) is dying. It will be replaced by the computer, your smart phone, Hulu, etc.
Some of those MAY use your TV, but the old platform of ABC, CBS, NBC, and Fox are going to die on the vine, or at least change in a drastic way.
And it can't happen too soon!

Southside

I wish you had been more specific in the first place. So why are you saying "And it can't happen too soon!" what's to be gained?

Personally I think much will be lost and a few years down the road will will discover the benefits of Content broadcast to everyone wirelessly, has significant advantages especially in times of disasters and emergencies.

Do you listen to Broadcast Radio?
 
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Double_A

TB Fanatic
So, I take it we are in agreement. Obtuse is my middle name, by the way....

Plain speaking is mine.

You may be right with respect to content, but I think Broadcasting of TV and Radio will be rediscovered. The content is gone, but that can be changed and improved. As a method of communication to the masses I believe it has value.
But I'm going to take a WAG and suggest you're under 35 yrs of age, and that is important, as kids today generally feel anything not on the internet is crap and they have no use for it.... TV being an example.
 

Southside

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Plain speaking is mine.

You may be right with respect to content, but I think Broadcasting of TV and Radio will be rediscovered. The content is gone, but that can be changed and improved. As a method of communication to the masses I believe it has value.
But I'm going to take a WAG and suggest you're under 35 yrs of age, and that is important, as kids today generally feel anything not on the internet is crap and they have no use for it.... TV being an example.
Hell, I WISH I were under 35. Good luck with changing "programming". In my estimation, it will die, because they lie, and people are sick of it. When the pendulum swings, it swings way farther than one might expect.

Ss
 

Double_A

TB Fanatic
Hell, I WISH I were under 35. Good luck with changing "programming". In my estimation, it will die, because they lie, and people are sick of it. When the pendulum swings, it swings way farther than one might expect.

Ss

It appears to me your argument is that TV should go away because of poor/useless content, in your opinion? And that content on the internet is more reliable and truthful?
 

Blacknarwhal

Let's Go Brandon!
Just yesterday had our DIRECTV canceled and went with dish.
Lots more channels for less money. Reception much better. Our internet is just horrible, DSL from frontier, so cannot stream anything.

That puzzles me. I've been streaming for years with Frontier DSL. Hulu, Netflix and YouTube all worked just fine for me at various points with Frontier's three-meg download speeds.
 

Southside

Has No Life - Lives on TB
It appears to me your argument is that TV should go away because of poor/useless content, in your opinion? And that content on the internet is more reliable and truthful?
TV today. Agenda based programming, and absolutely NO TRUTH. The internet is a mixed bag. A whole lot of chaff, and a little wheat. BUT THERE IS WHEAT. There is truth on the internet. I probably spend 3-5 hours a day TRYING to find some truth, and analyzing all that "we" know to discern something....anything. I bet you do the same. TV in my world went away years ago. So is the internet more reliable and truthful? At least there is SOME truth. And I hope that you, and I can find it.
 

Voortrekker

Veteran Member
Wife and I cut the DTV cord and have no regrets. Streaming on Roku with Amazon, Netflix. Also found out our TV will pick up TV signals wirelessly from the router, so there is tons of selections there. I think DTV is done for.
How did you do that? I tried all of those alternatives and not one actually worked.
 

TerriHaute

Hoosier Gardener
Isn't OANN on the Pluto app on Roku for free?
The OANN on Pluto is OAN Plus, a rebroadcast of several OANN shows but not the live news feed. Newsmax is available on Pluto for free and that is the regular live feed. Pluto also has several other news channels on their free lineup such as Bloombeerg, Sky News, Weather Nation, and several rebroadcast-type news channels like CNN, CBS Nation, The Blaze, and the Today show.
 

20Gauge

TB Fanatic
Simple. Do you think more, or less people watch TV today, vs. 10 years ago?
The platform(TV) is dying. It will be replaced by the computer, your smart phone, Hulu, etc.
Some of those MAY use your TV, but the old platform of ABC, CBS, NBC, and Fox are going to die on the vine, or at least change in a drastic way.
And it can't happen too soon!

Southside
TVs seem to be used more for gaming than anything else these days.
 

TKO

Veteran Member
The OANN on Pluto is OAN Plus, a rebroadcast of several OANN shows but not the live news feed. Newsmax is available on Pluto for free and that is the regular live feed. Pluto also has several other news channels on their free lineup such as Bloombeerg, Sky News, Weather Nation, and several rebroadcast-type news channels like CNN, CBS Nation, The Blaze, and the Today show.
Thanks! I didn't realize that.
 

lonestar09

Veteran Member
Not surprised. Co-worker went with dishnetwork.
Got locals and a few decent channels for some ungodly low number , something around 10 bucks per month.

My directv is around 100!
I called them looking for a lower deal, my requirements were oann, Newsmax, and hallmark (don't ask).
Two representatives and 30 minutes of my time and they were pleased to tell me I could save 20 bucks a month.

I told them my next call would be to cancel. Just haven't got around to it yet.
Don't know what you internet situation is like but hallmark has a streaming service that $60 a year I believe.
 

wintery_storm

Veteran Member
We have dish and downgraded to just Local Channels. They just started that feature. It is a total of 13.00 a month and that includes the tax. I get 4 local channels, pbs, c-span, lots of religious shows, qvc type shows, some old tv land station and free feature shows they offer for a few days every month. Plus we have loads of apps we have downloaded on our smart tv and fire stick. Oann is 4.99 a month. We love the savings and watch what we want.
Dish just started the cheap local feature so have to call and ask to change if you have dish. Well worth it.
 
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