BRKG Joe Biden illegally kept classified documents from his vice-presidency in his possession.

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Chapulin

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This case rather proves the security classifications are much looser than we heard with Trump. Second case of closely managed Top Secret leaving the safe rooms and going to private offices. If you are going to classify it you need to protect it.
 
The Hammer

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As corrupt as the DOJ and FBI currently are, couldn't they have kept this on the down-low with a wink and a nod to the Biden folks to make sure they move these docs to the right place, and no one would be the wiser?

Seems like this level of detail coming out would not be necessary unless there was some maneuvering/message-sending going on...
 
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They just announced Joe Biden illegally kept classified documents from his vice-presidency in his possession. I’m old enough to remember when the media told me this was impossible. So much for that Trump indictment. Between Hillary and now Biden, this story is over.
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5:31 PM · Jan 9, 2023
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The only possible way to ensure Joe Biden has no more illegal documents from his vice-presidency is for the FBI to raid all of his residences and seize anything they want, including his passports. Our democracy is at stake, anything less and we could all die.

“Don’t underestimate Joe’s ability to ****things up,” Obama, and also Merrick Garland, realizing his classified document case has just officially gone up in smoke.

It’s probably a total coincidence this news came out just as the Republicans took control of the House and are beginning their own investigations into the Biden crime family.

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U.S. attorney reviewing documents marked classified from Joe Biden's vice presidency found at Biden think tank

His attorneys identified the material when cleaning out office space at the center and immediately notified the White House counsel.
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U.S. attorney reviewing documents marked classified from Joe Biden's vice presidency found at Biden think tank​

evening-news
BY ADRIANA DIAZ, ANDRES TRIAY, ARDEN FARHI
UPDATED ON: JANUARY 9, 2023 / 6:54 PM / CBS NEWS




Attorney General Merrick Garland has assigned the U.S. attorney in Chicago to review documents marked classified that were found at the Penn Biden Center for Diplomacy and Global Engagement in Washington, two sources with knowledge of the inquiry told CBS News. The roughly 10 documents are from President Biden's vice-presidential office at the center, the sources said. CBS News has learned the FBI is also involved in the U.S. attorney's inquiry.

The material was identified by personal attorneys for Mr. Biden on Nov. 2, just before the midterm elections, Richard Sauber, special counsel to the president confirmed. The documents were discovered when Mr. Biden's personal attorneys "were packing files housed in a locked closet to prepare to vacate office space at the Penn Biden Center in Washington, D.C.," Sauber said in a statement to CBS News. The documents were contained in a folder that was in a box with other unclassified papers, the sources said. The sources revealed neither what the documents contain nor their level of classification. A source familiar told CBS News the documents did not contain nuclear secrets.

Sauber also said that on the same day the material was discovered, Nov. 2, the White House counsel's office notified the National Archives, which took possession of the materials the following morning.

"The discovery of these documents was made by the President's attorneys," Sauber said. "The documents were not the subject of any previous request or inquiry by the Archives. Since that discovery, the President's personal attorneys have cooperated with the Archives and the Department of Justice in a process to ensure that any Obama-Biden Administration records are appropriately in the possession of the Archives."

FILE: Penn Biden Center, Washington, D.C.VIA TWITTER
A source familiar with the matter said representatives from the National Archives then notified the Justice Department.




Garland assigned U.S. Attorney for the Northern District of Illinois John Lausch to find out how the material marked classified ended up at the Penn Biden Center. The review is considered a preliminary step, and the attorney general will determine whether further investigation is necessary, including potentially appointing a special counsel.

Lausch was nominated to be U.S. attorney by former President Donald Trump, and he is one of only two current Trump-era U.S. attorneys still serving. The other is Delaware U.S. Attorney David Weiss, who is leading an investigation into the president's son, Hunter Biden.

Lausch recently briefed the attorney general and will eventually submit a final report to Garland. The review is expected to conclude soon.

The Penn Biden Center is a think tank about a mile from the White House, in Washington, D.C., that is affiliated with the University of Pennsylvania and named for the sitting president.


The Presidential Records Act requires all presidential and vice-presidential documents be turned over to the National Archives. There are special protocols to keep classified information secure.

President Biden learned about the presence of the documents when his lawyer reported them to the White House counsel's office in November. A source familiar said the president is unaware of their contents. The documents are believed to be currently held in a secure location in Washington.

Lauch's review will examine, in part, how the documents got from Mr. Biden's vice-presidential office to the Penn Biden Center.

The Penn Biden Center and the University of Pennsylvania did not respond to a request for comment. The National Archives declined to comment. Attorneys assigned to oversee Biden's vice presidential records, Robert Lenhard, James Garland and Dana Remus, did not reply to voice messages and an email seeking comment. The Justice Department, FBI and DNI declined to comment.

A source familiar said the Office of the Director of National Intelligence (ODNI) is aware of the Justice Department inquiry.

The Penn Biden Center case has parallels to the Justice Department's pursuit of Donald Trump's presidential records — but the scope and scale are materially different. In August, the FBI executed a search warrant at Mar-a-Lago that yielded hundreds of documents marked classified.

That unprecedented search followed more than a year of tussling between Trump's representatives, the National Archives, and the Justice Department. The search warrant was sought and executed in August after multiple failed attempts by the federal government to retrieve what it considered to be sensitive documents at the former president's personal residence that should have been turned over to Archives under law.


The trove at Mar-a-Lago contained, among other material, secrets about nuclear capabilities and correspondence between Trump and North Korean dictator Kim Jong-un. An initial batch of 15 boxes was returned in January 2022, but Archives officials believed some records were still unaccounted for, prompting the agency to refer the matter to the Justice Department in February 2022.

The Trump investigation is now under the control of recently appointed special counsel Jack Smith.

In September, President Biden appeared on "60 Minutes" and was asked for his reaction to a photo showing the documents recovered at Mar-a-Lago. "How that could possibly happen? How anyone could be that irresponsible," the president said. "And it just — totally irresponsible."

In all, federal officials have recovered more than 300 classified documents that were once in Trump's possession.

Retaining classified information after leaving government service does not necessarily result in criminal charges. The FBI determined that former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton had classified material on her private email server for several years after she left the State Department in 2013. FBI investigators concluded that sloppiness, not ill intent, was to blame.

"Although there is evidence of potential violations of the statutes regarding the handling of classified information, our judgment is that no reasonable prosecutor would bring such a case," FBI Director James Comey said at the time.

The Penn Biden Center gives the Philadelphia-based University of Pennsylvania a foothold in the nation's capital. The think tank, which opened in 2018, hosts academic programming and events focusing on foreign policy.


Mr. Biden used the office space from mid-2017 until the spring of 2019, when he declared his candidacy for the presidency.

The center's sixth-floor offices sit at the foot of Capitol Hill and floor-to-ceiling windows provide a panoramic view of the Capitol. The center's staff largely comprises former Obama administration officials, many of whom have left the center to serve in the Biden administration.

Secretary of State Anthony Blinken, for example, was the center's managing director in 2018. Steve Richetti, who now serves as a top White House aide to Mr. Biden, was managing director of the center in 2019.

The university named Mr. Biden a Benjamin Franklin Presidential Practice Professor in 2017 and has paid him $917,643 for speeches and for heading his eponymous center between 2017 and 2019, according to the president's financial disclosures. He is currently on leave from the university.

Mr. Biden's connections to the University of Pennsylvania run deep. His late son Beau and granddaughter Naomi have undergraduate degrees from the university. Biden's daughter Ashley got her master's degree at Penn, and his granddaughter Natalie is currently an undergraduate there. Then-Vice President Biden launched the Obama administration's "cancer moonshot" at Penn in 2016.

The president discussed how he manages classified information at home in a Q-and-A session with reporters last August. "I have, in my home, a cabined-off space that is completely secure. I'm taking home with me today today's [Presidential Daily Briefing]. It's locked. I have a person with me — military with me. I read it, I lock it back up, and give it to the military."

Asked whether it was ever appropriate for a president to bring home classified material, Mr. Biden said, "It depends on the document, and it depends on how secure the room is."
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Biden's last day as VP was in January 2017 after which he was not in office. It says Biden used the space where the docs were found from mid-2017. The Penn-Biden Center itself was established in Feb. 2018. Penn Biden Center for Diplomacy and Global Engagement - Wikipedia

Where were the docs, which included Top Secret SCI, between January 2017 and the middle of 2017? Biden must have taken them somewhere , then moved them later to the Penn-Biden Center location (either before or after it was designated as the P-B Center) before they were discovered recently. That is the best case with the minimum possible number of transfers and changes of custody.
 
Bud in Fla

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TerryK said:
just heard on conservative talk radio during fox news break.
Bidens illegal top secret documents were concerning Ukraine and Iran and the UK.

This will probably provide hard evidence for the Hunter Biden connection. be buried by the FBI.
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Fixed it for ya -
 
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Groucho

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Hey, hey, settle down. The press will down play it and everybody will forget within a couple of days. Nothing happened. Nothing happened. Nothing.......

And that, boys and girls, is what's called "gaslighting."
 
pauldingbabe

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It will end up being the fault of some unsavy intern at the "think tank"

BTW what the hell is a think tank doing caring this water?

Hahaha! Think tank n bidum in the same AO. Haahahahahaha!
 
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Publius

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From all thats being disclosed on this they are trying their best to avoid saying Joe Biden commented an act of Espionage.
Its like Hillary Clinton with her cell phone and bathroom server and classified info all over again.
 
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https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1613559197924470784
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White House confirms classified documents found at Biden’s Wilmington home​

AFP
January 12, 2023 10:30 am
Source: Pixabay
The White House said Thursday “a small number” of classified documents had been found at Joe Biden’s private residence in Wilmington, Delaware, dating to the Obama-Biden administration.
Other documents were found at a Washington think tank where Biden used to have an office, embarrassing the White House as authorities probe a far bigger scandal involving ex-president Donald Trump’s alleged mishandling of classified documents.
 
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Biden's Classified-Records Found In Garage, AG Garland To Make Statement​

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BY TYLER DURDEN
THURSDAY, JAN 12, 2023 - 09:42 AM
“How that could possibly happen, how anyone could be that irresponsible. And I thought what data was in there that may compromise sources and methods.”
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President Biden's words reflecting on former President Trump's alleged mishandling of classified documents will be hard for the spin-meisters to distract from as a second batch of documents have been discovered.


Richard Sauber, Special Counsel to the President, has issued a statement to explain this 'misunderstanding'.

As we stated previously, we are fully cooperating with the National Archives and the Department of Justice in a process to ensure that any Obama-Biden Administration records are appropriately in possession of the Archives.
Following the discovery of government documents at the Penn Biden Center in November 2022, and coordinating closely with the Department of Justice, the President’s lawyers have searched the President's Wilmington and Rehoboth Beach, Delaware, residences - the other locations where files from his Vice- Presidential office might have been shipped in the course of the 2017 transition. The lawyers completed that review last night.
During the review, the lawyers discovered among personal and political papers a small number of additional Obama-Biden Administration records with classified markings. All but one of these documents were found in storage space in the President’s Wilmington residence garage. One document consisting of one page was discovered among stored materials in an adjacent room. No documents were found in the Rehoboth Beach residence.
[ZH: so not in a safe as they were found in Trump's Mar-a-Lago?]
As was done in the case of the Penn-Biden Center, the Department of Justice was immediately notified, and the lawyers arranged for the Department of Justice to take possession of these documents.
The White House will continue to cooperate with the review by the Department of Justice.
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But, as Jonathan Turley wrote, the same questions are being asked now about Biden’s own potential “irresponsible” handling of classified material and the true extent of any violations. On Monday, during a state visit to Mexico, Biden declined to answer questions from reporters.

The Biden classified documents matter has been referred to U.S. Attorney John Lausch for investigation. But the discovery will only magnify questions for Garland.

Some of us have criticized Garland for refusing to appoint a special counsel to investigate influence-peddling allegations against Biden’s son, Hunter, despite an overwhelming basis for such an appointment.

In contrast, Garland appointed a special counsel to investigate Trump soon after Trump announced his 2024 presidential candidacy. That again raised questions about Garland’s treatment of Biden, who is actually the president, may also be a presidential candidate in 2024, and may be involved in the underlying allegations against his son.

Now, with this new document discovery, Biden may be accused of the same underlying crime as Trump — yet Garland has elected, once again, not to appoint a special counsel. Instead, he is keeping the Biden matter within Justice Department ranks. While U.S. Attorney Lausch was appointed by Trump and is widely respected, Garland was not willing to keep the Trump case in the hands of a similarly respected Justice Department prosecutor.

For two years, some of us have pushed Garland to adopt a clear, consistent approach with the appointment of a special counsel on the Hunter Biden influence-peddling investigation and other matters. His inexplicable refusal now, regarding this new case, will make a bad situation even worse for the Justice Department.

Accordingly, we note that AG Garland has just announced that he will make a statement at 1315ET.



Turley continues, it is fair to note that Trump and his staff are accused of false statements and obstruction. However, that does not change the same alleged crime of unlawful removal and possession.

Biden is taking a page from the Hillary Clinton playbook. Recall the long-sought Whitewater documents. After the case was effectively over, they suddenly appeared. The New York Times called the documents “elusive,” as if they moved by free will.

Clinton was also “surprised” by the discovery of the documents . . . after they could not be used as part of the earlier investigation.

There are some obvious explanations for the documents being present in the office, particularly given Biden’s work on a book that discussed his work in some of the referenced countries like Ukraine. However, even that explanation raises more questions. For example, Biden left office as vice president in 2017 and had an office at the University of Pennsylvania in Philadelphia after finishing his term until 2019. On February 8, 2018, the Biden Center for Diplomacy and Global Engagement says that it opened its doors in Washington, D.C.

So if these documents were removed when Biden left office, where were they in the prior year and were they moved repeatedly before they ended up in the Washington office? This does not appear a “one-and-done” mistake. Rather documents may have been at various locations over a five year period.

Otherwise, Biden would have had to request and receive classified information at some point in the five years outside of a secure location.

Now that we have a second batch of documents, there is an increasing concern that classified documents were distributed or divided among different offices. This also means that an even greater array of individuals may have had access to such documents at different locations over the five-year period.

None of this could be clarified with Biden simply expressing “surprise.”

The FBI has two immediate tasks: secure the highly classified documents and then determine whether they may have been compromised.

Consider that Biden did not categorically deny asking for the documents to be taken at the end of this term as vice president.

He also did not explain when he was briefed after they were found.

Democrats and the media are eager to wave this away and move on. But, as the statements of Garland and Biden show, there are many questions that need answering. The discovery of new classified documents only magnifies those unanswered questions.



That is why we were not “surprised” but we can all be legitimately (and grammatically) astonished by the discoveries in Joe Biden’s closet — and his silence about the contents.

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Abe Froman

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I find it very hard to believe that Joe Biden, our current elected leader, who gathered more votes than anyone in the history of voting could even be thought of doing something non-legal. I'm sure in his entire life, he's probably never even jaywalked. So this is obviously a right-wing smear campaign by those conspiracy theorists.
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