We are not connected to the grid in any way. We supply our own water, heat and power.0 omissions is great, but you still have to be connected to the grid and pay the service fees. Or else the health departments can bull doze your home.
This is currently on going in California. Right now. For new construction.
We are not connected to the grid in any way. We supply our own water, heat and power.
Well they can try to take my house.....but I'm not sure they want to pay the price it's gonna cost them.....in blood. Also another reason to get as far off the grid as possible.
We produce our own electricity just like Ktrapper. However I am connected to the grid as a financial necessity. They wanted $10,000.00 to remove me from the grid. It was cheaper to sell them a little extra power than disconnect. Neither way is really cost effective and I don't need them. What I want is reparation for all my trees that suck up the CO2 that is being produced and relying on the forest to get rid of. We have some heavy timbered land and I have yet to get a check from any entity to pay me for CO2 removal. Until they address that issue they can stay off the property and hold their breath until they leave. I want payment for all the carbon credits I have. It is either in their religion/science or it is not. This can go both ways. If you own trees on your land they can be use to offset carbon. There is a carbon credit table I looked up once that gave the carbon consumption of different species of trees.
West we look carefully in our forest for any signs of the Mexican Spotted Owl. It has shut down whole areas to human traffic. I did find a very tiny sombrero once and a very small sarape. I have kept this information to myself but I had to tell you.Professional forest management is not recognized by the PTB! Granted it works and works well! Healthy young trees are the answers! But only dead and dieing old growth gives the spotted owls habitat is the big lie!
So you better not let them catch you using good and proven forest management. May have to let your trees die and become dead fall for the kangaroo rats the owls eat!
Ten grand to REMOVER YOU from the grid? Why? Just cut the lines and be done with them. Seriously....why would they charge you to leave the grid? On what grounds? That's just crazy?They wanted $10,000.00 to remove me from the grid.
We produce our own electricity just like Ktrapper. However I am connected to the grid as a financial necessity. They wanted $10,000.00 to remove me from the grid. It was cheaper to sell them a little extra power than disconnect. Neither way is really cost effective and I don't need them. What I want is reparation for all my trees that suck up the CO2 that is being produced and relying on the forest to get rid of. We have some heavy timbered land and I have yet to get a check from any entity to pay me for CO2 removal. Until they address that issue they can stay off the property and hold their breath until they leave. I want payment for all the carbon credits I have. It is either in their religion/science or it is not. This can go both ways. If you own trees on your land they can be use to offset carbon. There is a carbon credit table I looked up once that gave the carbon consumption of different species of trees.
There is no grid for us to connect to where we are.Some counties in California let it slide, or you know someone or the county health department has gave you grandfather's exception.
If you sell the home it must be connected to grid but also be 0 emissions and the sewer/well needs to be inspected to pass all new codes.
The building codes in California say you must have a good sewer, and hooked up to the grid, but also be 0%.
It's stupid. See the new title 24 requirements.
If I ever get a chance to build my own place it will be something between a Hobbit house and an Earthship design. And will be COMPLETELY off the grid in every way shape or form and as far from other people as possible.
Cool, want to buy some California property. It's really nice. All year running creek. Near a lake, big trees and way up in the mountains, near Oregon?There is no grid for us to connect to where we are.
No building codes where we are either. No restrictions. We could live in tent if we wanted. We are not in California. Own it out right.
Regarding your questions...Ten grand to REMOVER YOU from the grid? Why? Just cut the lines and be done with them. Seriously....why would they charge you to leave the grid? On what grounds? That's just crazy?
If I ever get a chance to build my own place it will be something between a Hobbit house and an Earthship design.
And will be COMPLETELY off the grid in every way shape or form and as far from other people as possible.
Too close to both states for me.Cool, want to buy some California property. It's really nice. All year running creek. Near a lake, big trees and way up in the mountains, near Oregon?
You are correct and California is producing 50% of the housing needed using this method... That number is dropping also.0 omissions is great, but you still have to be connected to the grid and pay the service fees. Or else the health departments can bull doze your home.
This is currently on going in California. Right now. For new construction.
Back in the mid 1950's when I was just a tyke my Grandfather and others worked hard to bring the REA up into the this Mountain Range. So now when you want to disconnect they won't just pull the meter and that is that. No way that easy. You can pull the meter but you will keep receiving their monthly connectivity fees that are over $40/month. That is before you use a kilowatt connect or not. The only way they will stop the connectivity fee is if they pull the pole out of the ground and take it with them. That cost you ten thousand dollars for them to pull the pole. Maybe more now. So either way you are going to pay. Last couple of months I have put out enough electricity to eliminate the connectivity fees. They have to take all your credits and come to zero by the end of the year and you start all over. Hope that makes sense not that it really does. Sometimes you have to make lemonade out of the lemon that has been handed you.Ten grand to REMOVER YOU from the grid? Why? Just cut the lines and be done with them. Seriously....why would they charge you to leave the grid? On what grounds? That's just crazy?
If I ever get a chance to build my own place it will be something between a Hobbit house and an Earthship design.
And will be COMPLETELY off the grid in every way shape or form and as far from other people as possible.
No West the 10 Grand goes to the electric company. We built our own house from native timber that I cut. No inspection here. No certificate of occupancy needed. Freedom can still be had. But sometimes it is a trade off. If this grid goes down it means very little to me. We are pretty self sufficient thanks to all the good members on the board that have made me into a walking, paranoid, sky is falling, take everything serious, and prep like there is no tomorrow person. Got to say I love you all and have gotten so many good ideas from all of you and some great recipes also. Could take awhile to get me off the hill. Only GOD knows what the future holds.Regarding your questions...
It's for your own good! Like the seat belt laws.
What if you solar or wind or hydro etc.. system fails? You need back up!
Or else!
BTW I wouldn't be surprised if that $10k also included a yearly inspection for more dollars. Make sure your compliant and not living in your own sewer, or the cold, etc.
It's for your own dam good! Now obey or we will fine your arse so hard....
Back in the mid 1950's when I was just a tyke my Grandfather and others worked hard to bring the REA up into the this Mountain Range. So now when you want to disconnect they won't just pull the meter and that is that. No way that easy. You can pull the meter but you will keep receiving their monthly connectivity fees that are over $40/month. That is before you use a kilowatt connect or not. The only way they will stop the connectivity fee is if they pull the pole out of the ground and take it with them. That cost you ten thousand dollars for them to pull the pole. Maybe more now. So either way you are going to pay. Last couple of months I have put out enough electricity to eliminate the connectivity fees. They have to take all your credits and come to zero by the end of the year and you start all over. Hope that makes sense not that it really does. Sometimes you have to make lemonade out of the lemon that has been handed you.
New Mexico has beat them already, they were doing this prior to 2015They will put a meter on your well, provide zero "services", and then charge you for the meter and charge you for the water. California shows the way.
California is siccing its Environmental Protection Agency on property owners who have private water wells on their land and making them pay based on how much water volume they use, according to a new report.
California Globe reported Wednesday that an anonymous tipster produced a letter signed by Natalie Stork, identified as chief of groundwater management program unit 1. The letter advised the San Diego-area resident that they would have to report the volume of well water they used and pay a fee per acre foot of groundwater extracted starting in February 2023.
The letter was on the official letterhead of California Water Boards and was sent under the authority of Governor Gavin Newsom (D-CA) and Secretary for Environmental Protection Jared Blumenfeld.
“They’re sending out letters to property owners saying they must declare [if] they use just two acre feet,” the source told The California Globe. “If they use more, they must pay an annual fee of $300 for each well plus they must meter the water and send in a monthly usage report and pay a fee for water that is pumped starting in Feb 2023.”
“What a great racket!” the California resident added. “The government provides no service, no support, no product, doesn’t even do the billing! That’s all on citizens. All [the government does] is cash the check.”
“In addition to pumping volumes, reports must include the location of the well and the place and purpose of use of the groundwater. Groundwater extraction reports are not due to the state water board until February 1, 2023,” the letter added. “However, if you are required to report, the report must include pumping volumes for each month between the date of receipt of this letter and September 30, 2022.”
The letters came in the midst of a record drought and as local governments in California are also ramping up tactics to force residents to consume less water.
In Los Angeles, the Department of Water and Power team has created a team called the Water Conservation Response Unit (Water CRU). There is currently an ordinance in L.A. that limits how and when L.A. residents can water their property. The ordinance also says “any water use resulting in excess or continuous water flow or runoff onto adjoining sidewalks, driveways, streets, gutters, or ditches is always prohibited.” The unit goes around looking for pools of water on property and then determines whether or not the body of water could be in violation of the law.
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What would they do if you didn’t pay that $40/month fee?
Turn your power off? Fine, let ‘em!
Knowing how predatory the governments can be, they’d leverage you another way.
I have been predicting that most of us will lose everything including our freedom for a long time now, NOT because of the reasons cited above (new government demands on upgrading houses and water taxes etc), but when we are shifted over to a new system of payments (“Mark of the Beast”) -which for the last thirty or so years has been predicted to be in the form of a minuscule “grain of rice-sized” RFID type device inserted under the skin through which one is registered and permitted to “buy and sell.”
It appears clear to some of us that that is one of the primary objective of the clot shot -besides selective de-population.... is to create an electrical interface between our bodies and the State via embedded nano-scale self-assembling Electrical Identification Devices within our blood streams making it impossible to remove once injected. For those of us who heed the Bible’s warning against taking the Mark, there is no “going there”. Without that “ permission” to be part of the Beast System, there will be no way to pay your taxes, which like death, are guaranteed. Hence we will lose our property to the State, and ultimately will be hunted down and “re-located” and disappeared.
conclusion: pray that you may escape all these things coming upon the world, like a flood, like a tsunami. Once it starts it is too late to run...
You know, I never really thought about that way. Sure does make a lot of sense in a glass half full Kinda way….It's that whole 'the first shot is the most expensive and then the rest is free' thing.
“They’re sending out letters to property owners saying they must declare [if] they use just two acre feet,”
Without that “ permission” to be part of the Beast System, there will be no way to pay your taxes, which like death, are guaranteed. Hence we will lose our property to the State, and ultimately will be hunted down and “re-located” and disappeared.
conclusion: pray that you may escape all these things coming upon the world, like a flood, like a tsunami. Once it starts it is too late to run...