DISASTER 'Hundreds' of New Yorkers may already be infected with polio, Empire state health chief warns

Bps1691

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Open borders and uncontrolled mass migrations from the left just keeps giving and giving---->




'Hundreds' of New Yorkers may already be infected with polio, Empire state health chief warns - as the virus is detected in wastewater of a SECOND county

PUBLISHED: 11:17 EDT, 5 August 2022 | UPDATED: 14:38 EDT, 5 August 2022

New York officials are warning that hundreds of Empire state residents may already be infected with the devastating polio virus after it was detected in wastewater of a second county in the state.

State surveillance detected presence of the polio virus in at least two different areas of Orange County, New York - around an hours drive from New York City - in June and July. It comes within weeks of officials announcing a confirmed polio case in Rockland County - just northwest of the Big Apple's Bronx borough. The virus was also detected in Rockland wastewater last month.

The likelihood of these spreading is low but not impossible. Because of advanced water treatment in America, it is rare a person ends up drinking truly contaminated tap water. It is possible that fecal matter could end up on a surface a person interacts with, though, and ends up transmitting the virus.

Because polio is either mild or asymptomatic in a majority of cases, it is likely that the detection of one symptomatic case means there could be hundreds of others that will never be detected. Finding the virus in wastewater samples in multiple counties confirms fears that the virus has been spreading in the state for sometime before the Rockland case was detected.

A vaccinated person has little to worry about, and the U.S. has vaccine coverage of over 90 percent. Many had to receive the jabs to go to primary school. Inoculation lasts for life and there is no booster required for a person to stay safe from the virus.

Officials are urging the population to get vaccinated to prevent a resurgence of the devastating virus. Orange and Rockland are both among the counties with the lowest vaccine coverage against the virus - at 59 and 60 percent respectively. A person who is already vaccinated is not believed to be at any risk.

Based on earlier polio outbreaks, New Yorkers should know that for every one case of paralytic polio observed, there may be hundreds of other people infected,' Dr Mary Bassett, the state's health commissioner said.

'As we learn more, what we do know is clear: the danger of polio is present in New York today. We must meet this moment by ensuring that adults, including pregnant people, and young children by 2 months of age are up to date with their immunization.'

New York state officials launched polio surveillance efforts in response to the case confirmed on July 21.

The case was confirmed in an Orthodox Jewish man in his 20s. He himself is unvaccinated, and contracted the vaccine-derived version of the virus.

Vaccine-derived polio can form when a person receives a live-virus vaccine - an oral immunization that can pass the virus on to others through fecal contamination.

That vaccine is no longer used in America, meaning it likely transmitted from a person that receive it abroad and eventually made it back to this New York man.

He suffered paralysis as a result of his infection and is now recovering at home after a hospital stay. It was reported earlier this week that he is still struggling to walk.

Given his lack of international travel during the standard infection period, it is likely that he contracted the virus stateside. This alerted officials to begin surveillance.

Wastewater sampling detected polio in Rockland county in June. It was also detected in Orange county in June and July.

'Given how quickly polio can spread, now is the time for every adult, parent, and guardian to get themselves and their children vaccinated as soon as possible,' Basset said.

Polio is a potentially disabling and life-threatening disease, which in serious cases can spread to the spinal cord triggering paralysis and even death.

It is highly contagious and spreads after someone touches a surface contaminated with an infected person's feces and then their own mouth.

About one in four people who catch the virus develop flu-like symptoms including a sore throat, fever, tiredness and stomach pain.

One in 25 will go on to suffer meningitis — when the spinal cord is infected — and later paralysis. Of these, up to one in ten die from the infection.

It was once the most feared disease in the U.S., sparking panic throughout the 1940s.

Parents were left afraid to let their children play outside — particularly in summer when the virus appeared to be more common —, and public health officials would impose quarantines on homes and even whole towns where it was spotted.

It was behind more than 15,000 paralyses every year, and hundreds of deaths.

But in the mid-1950s the country began rolling out poliovirus vaccines to prevent the disease.

By 1979, the United States declared the virus had been eliminated. There has been no known transmission on U.S. soil since.

The vaccine was also rolled out globally, with the virus pushed back to just a few countries.

It is now only known to be circulating in Pakistan and Afghanistan. The WHO warns that as long as it continues to spread there, it remains a threat to the world.

But in recent years — as the virus has retreated from the national memory — vaccination rates have slowed in the United States.

Latest figures show now about 92.6 percent of Americans are vaccinated against polio by their second birthday.

This is below the 95 percent threshold the WHO says is needed to stop an outbreak.

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) recommends that all children should get the polio vaccine.

It is given as four shots in the leg or arm, with the first given at two months old, the second at four months, the third between six and 18 months and the final dose between four and six years old.

The vaccine is highly effective, with 99 percent of children receiving life-long protection against the disease.
 

wintery_storm

Veteran Member
NYC is a continuing cess pool.

Yes I agree.

My area unfortunately gets a influx of them visiting us and they are rude. I am still furious with one driver from yesterday that was behind me as I was driving down the small tourist town road. The person in front of me stopped to pick someone up. So I waited, well all of a sudden I hear an ambulance siren and this big bad Lincoln SUV goes around me and the car in front of me. The towns street is narrow so this SUV was lucky no one was coming from the other way.

So I went around the parked car and was behind the SUV, it had a Staten Island car dealership plate frame and a medic License plate for New York. This is a Tourist town in Pennsylvania and we do not use New York Medic's. So I am behind this car(as I am going to the grocery store). It tried 3 times to pull into tight parking spots, could not fit, backed out in front of me. I was so angry.
Finally they got a spot , I blew the horn angrily as I past them! They were just tourists who thought they could bully people to pass them . They did not get far from me so the impatience and using their medic horn was out of line.
 

Wildwood

Veteran Member
A little known fact...people who had polio as a child are more likely to get cancer of the spine than the average person. My cousin had polio with no major lasting issues but ended up with spinal cancer in his sixties. His doctor told him his risk factor was having polio as a child. He was in excellent health and really good shape for his age. He made it a year or two before he lost the battle.

Nowdays, we wouldn't tolerate what families went through when they had a child with polio back in the day. I know of a few cases where the children were placed in a large treatment hospital, usually in one of the state's larger cities and the parents were only allowed to see them on a schedule. My old neighbor's husband died leaving her with a house full of children. When one came down with polio, she had to place him in her state's hospital a few hundred miles away and she could only see him once a month. Since she had no vehicle, she had to ride the bus to visit for a few hours and ride it back home. She was still traumatized by it forty years later.
 

bev

Has No Life - Lives on TB
“Pregnant people.” Yeah, they’d definitely be at high risk. :rolleyes:
 

Housecarl

On TB every waking moment
I have to wonder if this article is talking about "polio" as we understand it or the "polio like" disease that was running rampant in schools in the north east at the same time Covid-19 was starting out that was attributed to the surge in illegals from South and Central America?
 

Bolt

FJB
An interesting link from the CDC:

Bolded parts for emphasis.

Fair use, etc...


Vaccine (Shot) for Polio
Polio
How to pronounce Polio: [POH-lee-oh]

Four doses of the polio shot for children are recommended by doctors as the best way to protect against polio.
When should my child get the polio shot?
Your child will need one dose at each of the following ages:

1st dose icon
2 months
2nd dose icon
4 months
3rd dose icon
6 – 18 months
4th dose icon
4 – 6 years
Why should my child get the polio shot?
Protects your child from polio, a potentially serious disease.
Protects your child from developing lifelong paralysis from polio.
The polio shot is safe.

The polio shot is very safe, and is effective at preventing polio. Vaccines like any medicine, can have side effects. These are usually mild and go away on their own.
What are the side effects?
Redness, swelling, or pain where the shot was given

Prepare for your child's vaccine visit and learn about how you can:

Research vaccines and ready your child before the visit
Comfort your child during the appointment
Care for your child after the shot
Before, During, and After Shots
Crutches icon.
What is polio?
Polio, or poliomyelitis, is a disabling and life-threatening disease caused by the poliovirus. The virus can infect a person’s spinal cord, causing paralysis (can’t move parts of the body). Paralysis caused by poliovirus occurs when the virus replicates in and attacks the nervous system. The paralysis can be lifelong, and it can be deadly.

It most often sickens children younger than 5 years old.

What are the symptoms of polio infection?
Most people who get infected with poliovirus do not have any symptoms. Some people (25 people out of 100) will have flu-like symptoms. These symptoms usually last 2 to 5 days.

In rare cases, poliovirus infection can be very serious. About 1 out of 200 people will have weakness or paralysis in their arms, legs, or both. This paralysis or weakness can last a lifetime.

Is it serious?
The risk of lifelong paralysis is very serious. Even children who seem to fully recover can develop new muscle pain, weakness, or paralysis as adults, 15 to 40 years later.

About 2 to 10 children out of 100 who have paralysis from polio die because the virus affects the muscles that help them breathe.

How does polio spread?
Poliovirus is very contagious. It spreads through contact with:

the stool (poop) of an infected person.
droplets from a sneeze or cough of an infected person.
If you get stool or droplets from an infected person on your hands and you touch your mouth, you can get infected. Also, if your child puts objects, like toys, that have stool or droplets on them into their mouth, they can get infected.

An infected person may spread the virus to others immediately before and up to 2 weeks after symptoms appear.

The virus may live in an infected person’s stool for many weeks. He or she can contaminate food and water when they touch it with unwashed hands.
People who don’t have symptoms can still pass the virus to others and make them sick.
Do people still get polio in the United States?
No, thanks to a successful vaccination program, the United States has been polio-free for more than 30 years, but the disease still occurs in other parts of the world. It would only take one person with polio traveling from another country to bring polio back to the United States.


Children who will be traveling to a country where the risk of getting polio is greater should complete the series of shots before leaving for their trip. If a child cannot complete the routine series before leaving, a polio accelerated schedule is recommended.
Follow the vaccine schedule
The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, American Academy of Family Physicians, and American Academy of Pediatrics strongly recommend children receive all vaccines according to the recommended vaccine schedule.

Get a list of vaccines that your child may need based on age, health conditions, and other factors.
Learn the reasons you should follow the vaccine schedule.
Birth - 6 years schedule
 

Tonic

Contributing Member
Large Hasidic Jewish population. They have their own schools and breed like rabbits. Kiras Joel has the youngest median age of any municipality in the US.
 

marymonde

Veteran Member
The case was confirmed in an Orthodox Jewish man in his 20s. He himself is unvaccinated, and contracted the vaccine-derived version of the virus.

It’s extremely rare to get wild polio now. The cases around the world are from the live polio vaccines. They spread disease like wild polio, which to me, is the bigger picture here.
 

SackLunch

Dirt roads take me home
Somewhere I recall that the live attenuated polio vaccine, no longer used in the USA, was responsible for a recent polio outbreak in Africa. Any news hounds out there remember that?
 

SackLunch

Dirt roads take me home
Found it.

Fair use

Africa battles out-of-control polio outbreaks
Cases tumble in Pakistan and Afghanistan, but African outbreaks have become a grave threat to eradication

3 Mar 20224:30 PMByLeslie Roberts

On 17 February, Malawi’s Ministry of Health announced a nasty surprise: A 3-year-old girl who was paralyzed in November 2021 was infected with the wild poliovirus, which Africa officially vanquished in 2020. The sequence of the virus showed it had somehow made the leap from Pakistan, one of the last two holdouts of the wild virus. A week later came bad news from Afghanistan: Gunmen killed eight polio workers in the country’s northeast.

The incidents are the latest setbacks on the long, bumpy road to global polio eradication. Yet Pakistan has “exported” wild poliovirus before, sparking outbreaks that were quickly snuffed out, and the situation in Afghanistan and Pakistan improved dramatically last year, with polio cases tumbling to a historic low.

Instead, perhaps the biggest threat to the effort now is an explosion of vaccine-derived polio outbreaks in Africa that affected almost two dozen countries last year and paralyzed more than 500 children in 2020 and again in 2021. Vaccine-derived strains emerge where children are un- or underimmunized, allowing the live, weakened virus in the oral polio vaccine (OPV) to circulate and accumulate enough mutations to revert to its neurovirulent form and paralyze kids. These outbreaks—which almost always emerge from type 2 poliovirus, one of the three virus strains—are “very worrying” and “front burner” at the Global Polio Eradication Initiative (GPEI), says John Vertefeuille of the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), a partner in the initiative.

A big part of the problem is that countries don’t view vaccine-derived strains as an emergency, says Simona Zipursky, an adviser to the World Health Organization’s (WHO’s) polio program, even though they behave just like the wild virus. “It is not like there is a milder variant as there is with COVID-19,” Zipursky says. Nigeria’s widely lauded victory over the wild virus—it was the last African country to achieve that feat—fed a sense that “the job was done,” says WHO’s Aidan O’Leary, who directs GPEI. The quality of Nigeria’s polio program, once among the best in the world, slipped, and today the country is “the most important generator” of vaccine-derived polioviruses, says Jay Wenger of the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation, another partner in GPEI. Nigeria accounted for more than half of all vaccine-derived polio cases globally last year and exported the virus to 18 countries.

Other factors have contributed, too. Lately, many African countries have been slow to respond to new outbreaks as they wait for a new vaccine that they think will solve the problems, which has allowed the virus to spread. Many are frustrated with the existing vaccine, monovalent OPV2 (mOPV2); they would use it to quash an outbreak but then, because the vaccine virus occasionally reverts, the response would seed more outbreaks.

Known as novel OPV2 (nOPV2), the new vaccine was engineered to be as effective as mOPV2 but more genetically stable, greatly lessening the chance it will revert. The vaccine, funded by the Gates Foundation, was rolled out in a few countries in March 2021 under an emergency use authorization.

Pending its arrival, Senegal waited for almost 1 year before responding to a virus detected in late 2020, instead of using readily available supplies of mOPV2. “If the virus gets a head start for such a long time it is harder to stop,” says Mark Pallansch, who recently retired from CDC but remains involved in GPEI.

Although early data suggest nOPV2 is indeed less likely to trigger outbreaks, Pallansch thinks its promise has been oversold. “Governments thought, if I can just get it, things will be fine,” he says. But countries ran nOPV2 campaigns of poor quality, reaching just a fraction of the target population. Nigeria has burned through about 184 million nOPV2 doses, out of 255 million used so far, and still hasn’t stopped many of its outbreaks. The new vaccine “is not a magic bullet,” Zipursky says.

GPEI and other international bodies are hammering home that countries should respond to any outbreak immediately with whatever type 2 vaccine is available. The mantra is “faster, better, bigger,” O’Leary says: Be quicker to detect and respond to outbreaks, improve the vaccination campaigns, and broaden them. “We need to conduct them not where you think the virus is, but, based on migration patterns, where you think it will be,” he says.

The Africa campaign is also suffering from a “self-inflicted wound,” Pallansch says. GPEI has long planned to put itself out of business once polio is gone. As part of a transition plan, many of GPEI’s substantial assets and staff would be integrated into existing WHO programs, for instance, to deal with other infectious diseases—GPEI has already helped with Ebola and COVID-19—and to boost routine immunization. WHO planned to complete this transition in nonendemic countries—including all of Africa—by January 2022.

Accordingly, in February 2021, WHO’s Africa office sent pink slips to all GPEI staff. Unfortunately, the office was slow to say who would be kept on, and some people got nervous and quit, officials say. GPEI soon realized the Africa situation was “too hot right now” to proceed with the plan, Wenger says, and decided to continue to fund the 10 highest risk countries in Africa for another 2 years. But the damage had been done. “Things didn’t have to happen this way,” Pallansch says. “They could have done it in a different sequence and not have viruses all over the continent.”

The new worries come as Pakistan and Afghanistan, the last two endemic countries, are doing surprisingly well, with just five reported cases of wild poliovirus last year, down from 140 in 2020. Pakistan has just gone an entire year without a case. (Vaccine-derived cases in both countries are way down as well.) “It looks better than it ever has,” Wenger says. The low numbers are “absolutely not” an artifact, says Hamid Jafari, who heads the eradication program in the region; surveillance remains “really, really good.” Some of the gains stem from very favorable epidemiology. Polio resurged in both countries in 2019 and 2020, and “after a peak we always see a trough,” Jafari says, in part because of increased population immunity. Reduced travel during the COVID-19 pandemic helped.

In Pakistan, vaccination drives already cover most of the target population, and they are improving, Jafari says. Imran Khan, Pakistan’s prime minister, is actively involved. Bill Gates just visited the country to bolster enthusiasm. In Afghanistan, too, “we’ve made more progress than we could have anticipated,” O’Leary says. After resuming power in August 2021, the Taliban rescinded its ban on house-to-house polio vaccination in its strongholds, which had left 3.5 million children out of reach. (In some areas GPEI is still restricted to vaccinating in mosques.) Vaccination campaigns in November, December, and January reached 8.5 million out of 9.9 million children, Jafari says, including 2.6 million who were inaccessible for 3.5 years.

But future campaigns could be hobbled if last week’s killings are a harbinger of further violence. And Jafari suspects the virus may survive in small populations that move back and forth across the border between the two countries. A couple of positive environmental samples detected in December in southern Khyber Pakhtunkhwa in Pakistan show the virus is still lurking there. Jafari worries it could resurge when the weather warms and people begin to travel for Ramadan and Eid al-Fitr. The recent spread to Malawi underscores the risk of further delays, he says: “We want to kill the virus now.”
 
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marymonde

Veteran Member
India was devastated with children that were paralysed by the vaccine. I look it up later. The numbers are staggering. This is what was going on in Africa in 2019:

LONDON -- Four African countries have reported new cases of polio linked to the oral vaccine, as global health numbers show there are now more children being paralyzed by viruses originating in vaccines than in the wild.

In a report late last week, the World Health Organization and partners noted nine new polio cases caused by the vaccine in Nigeria, Congo, Central African Republic and Angola. Seven countries elsewhere in Africa have similar outbreaks and cases have been reported in Asia. Of the two countries where polio remains endemic, Afghanistan and Pakistan, vaccine-linked cases have been identified in Pakistan.

In rare cases, the live virus in oral polio vaccine can mutate into a form capable of sparking new outbreaks. All the current vaccine-derived polio cases have been sparked by a Type 2 virus contained in the vaccine. Type 2 wild virus was eliminated years ago.

Polio is a highly infectious disease that spreads in contaminated water or food and usually strikes children under 5. About one in 200 infections results in paralysis. Among those, a small percentage die when their breathing muscles are crippled.

Donors last week pledged $2.6 billion to combat polio as part of an eradication initiative that began in 1988 and hoped to wipe out polio by 2000. Since then, numerous such deadlines have been missed.
 

marymonde

Veteran Member
Somewhere I recall that the live attenuated polio vaccine, no longer used in the USA, was responsible for a recent polio outbreak in Africa. Any news hounds out there remember that?
Yes. The live doses seemingly have been sent to third world countries. Pharma can’t just destroy them, they need to make that money. Makes you go hmm…
 

changed

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"The case was confirmed in an Orthodox Jewish man in his 20s. He himself is unvaccinated, and contracted the vaccine-derived version of the virus." WTF does that mean?
 

WalknTrot

Veteran Member
Nowdays, we wouldn't tolerate what families went through when they had a child with polio back in the day.

(Some) people would be amazed at what they would 'tolerate' if it were kids dying left and right in an epidemic.

All the resistance to the Covid measures was "easy" because it was mostly sickly adults and old farts seriously affected. Not even close to comparable with a disease like polio or others where kids die too, or even more frequently. We basically got very lucky with this last thing.
 
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SouthernBreeze

Has No Life - Lives on TB
What is the "vaccine derived version" for those of us who are simple-minded?

Does it mean that a person who was just recently vaccinated was contagious for a bit of time afterwards, and this unvaccinated person caught it from them while they were still contagious?
 
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Barry Natchitoches

Has No Life - Lives on TB
A little known fact...people who had polio as a child are more likely to get cancer of the spine than the average person. My cousin had polio with no major lasting issues but ended up with spinal cancer in his sixties. His doctor told him his risk factor was having polio as a child. He was in excellent health and really good shape for his age. He made it a year or two before he lost the battle.

Nowdays, we wouldn't tolerate what families went through when they had a child with polio back in the day. I know of a few cases where the children were placed in a large treatment hospital, usually in one of the state's larger cities and the parents were only allowed to see them on a schedule. My old neighbor's husband died leaving her with a house full of children. When one came down with polio, she had to place him in her state's hospital a few hundred miles away and she could only see him once a month. Since she had no vehicle, she had to ride the bus to visit for a few hours and ride it back home. She was still traumatized by it forty years later.
Don’t forget those infamous iron lungs…

What was it like to see your child trapped in one of those things?
 

Wildwood

Veteran Member
Don’t forget those infamous iron lungs…

What was it like to see your child trapped in one of those things?
I thought about that after I posted. I read an article a few years back about the polio survivors that are still using iron lungs in their homes. They no longer make them or the parts necessary to keep them going so there is a network of sorts where families of the survivors help each other out with parts and repairs. As the users of the iron lungs pass, their machine or it's parts are passed on to those still in need.

Even though technology should provide something even better and more practical, it does not work as well for some survivors.
 

Mprepared

Veteran Member
I have to wonder if this article is talking about "polio" as we understand it or the "polio like" disease that was running rampant in schools in the north east at the same time Covid-19 was starting out that was attributed to the surge in illegals from South and Central America?
Polio in the wastewater too, but are people in the hospital? Recently vaccinated could shed that in the water like they do birth control pills, blood pressure pills, all the other medications in the wastewater and I do not care what anybody says about vaccines they do spread, maybe not all, but when my daughter was born the hospital gave me a lot of papers and one was a warning that if she was recently vaccinated and I am thinking it was the polio that I was to warn healthcare workers or babysitters that she was recently vaccinated because it was a DANGER to immune compromised people and the virus was SHED IN THE DIAPER and I think for 7 to 14 days or something like that, so are these immune compromised vaccinated with covid plus boosters and plus if they came from over the border, are they getting recently vaccinated and is this spreading through recently vaccinated immune compromised people? Like HIV in the covid vaccinated, just something strange to all this.
 

John Deere Girl

Veteran Member
Polio in the wastewater too, but are people in the hospital? Recently vaccinated could shed that in the water like they do birth control pills, blood pressure pills, all the other medications in the wastewater and I do not care what anybody says about vaccines they do spread, maybe not all, but when my daughter was born the hospital gave me a lot of papers and one was a warning that if she was recently vaccinated and I am thinking it was the polio that I was to warn healthcare workers or babysitters that she was recently vaccinated because it was a DANGER to immune compromised people and the virus was SHED IN THE DIAPER and I think for 7 to 14 days or something like that, so are these immune compromised vaccinated with covid plus boosters and plus if they came from over the border, are they getting recently vaccinated and is this spreading through recently vaccinated immune compromised people? Like HIV in the covid vaccinated, just something strange to all this.
I remember when my older kids got the polio vaccine, and the nurse told me to be very careful with the diapers and to wash my hands well and disinfect the surfaces be it could be spread that way.
 

Mprepared

Veteran Member
I remember when my older kids got the polio vaccine, and the nurse told me to be very careful with the diapers and to wash my hands well and disinfect the surfaces be it could be spread that way.
Yes, and so all these people coming from other countries might be getting vaccinated or a lot of kids time to get their vaccinations for school or just scheduled, this would be in the wastewater and now we have people who have compromised immune systems enough so that they are testing more people for HIV.
 
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