FOOD Report food & grocery shortages / price increases here: 2022 Edition

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annieosage

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I only picked up a few things curbside this morning but my order was complete:

Avocados
Bananas
Bacon
Chicken breast
Sourdough bread
Butter
Cottage cheese
Rainbow sherbet
Frozen waffles (guilty pleasure)

I don't buy much anymore due to my move but every week I do need a few things. I didn't really NEED the chicken or bacon but better to have extra than not enough- especially when it comes to bacon LOL
 
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Terrwyn

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Artificially Intelli said:
Yea i know i know. Ol' Roy ain't the best when it comes to the dog's long term health. But as far as i can tell, it's no worse than Purina or Gravy Train etc. And i have 4 big dogs that eat a lot. I can't afford the organic stuff, but i am interested in your recommendations on this, so don't hold back.
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Maybe dogs will eat the expensive organic stuff but my cats always turn their noses up at it. They have also lived anywhere from 16 to one that is still alive at 22 on Purina.
 
Dennis Olson

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Artificially Intelli said:
Yea i know i know. Ol' Roy ain't the best when it comes to the dog's long term health. But as far as i can tell, it's no worse than Purina or Gravy Train etc. And i have 4 big dogs that eat a lot. I can't afford the organic stuff, but i am interested in your recommendations on this, so don't hold back.
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Okay, here’s the deal. Before I got Hermione pup, I knew nothing about dog food. In the year-long wait for her arrival, I studied everything I could about dogs’ behavior and food. Hermione was a 120 lbs. My current pair are each 100 lbs. As I said, all I feed is 1 ½ C of dry kibble in the morning and evening per dog. They maintain their weight on that amount, and are not hungry between meals. How much do you feed each dog, and how often?

The benefit of the organic stuff as you call it (it’s really not organic, but is grain-free and uses top-grade ingredients overall) is that you feed less. Thus, the higher price is balanced out by the food lasting longer. Additionally, your dogs are healthier and their poops are smaller. One 28 lb bag lasts me exactly 30 days between the two pups. It costs $52 a bag. Now, if that price gives you the heebie geebies, there’s another brand that I raised Hermione on. It’s called Chicken Soup for the Dog Lover’s Soul. I no longer remember it’s price, but it’s cheaper but still a great food.

Your dogs win with better food. They’re healthier, so fewer vet visits. They live longer and stay active longer. I understand the financial realities of feeding cheap food, but if there’s any way at all you can up the quality of their diet, do it. They’ll love you for it, and you’ll love yourself for doing it.
 
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bracketquant

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The latest at the local WalMart is that the cooking oil was re-stocked a week ago. Yesterday, the only things left were a few mid-sized containers of soy-based vegetable oil and the ultra expensive tiny glass bottles of imported olive oil. Even the gallon jugs were gone. I don't know if this was Super Bowl party cooking related. Every item in the store to do with a SB spread was well depleted. In a week or two, with hopefully the next shipments, maybe things will return to the new normal.
 
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Artificially Intelli

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Dennis Olson said:
Okay, here’s the deal. Before I got Hermione pup, I knew nothing about dog food. In the year-long wait for her arrival, I studied everything I could about dogs’ behavior and food. Hermione was a 120 lbs. My current pair are each 100 lbs. As I said, all I feed is 1 ½ C of dry kibble in the morning and evening per dog. They maintain their weight on that amount, and are not hungry between meals. How much do you feed each dog, and how often?

The benefit of the organic stuff as you call it (it’s really not organic, but is grain-free and uses top-grade ingredients overall) is that you feed less. Thus, the higher price is balanced out by the food lasting longer. Additionally, your dogs are healthier and their poops are smaller. One 28 lb bag lasts me exactly 30 days between the two pups. It costs $52 a bag. Now, if that price gives you the heebie geebies, there’s another brand that I raised Hermione on. It’s called Chicken Soup for the Dog Lover’s Soul. I no longer remember it’s price, but it’s cheaper but still a great food.

Your dogs win with better food. They’re healthier, so fewer vet visits. They live longer and stay active longer. I understand the financial realities of feeding cheap food, but if there’s any way at all you can up the quality of their diet, do it. They’ll love you for it, and you’ll love yourself for doing it.
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Thanks bro. I asked for your advice and i will seriously consider. The price difference is relatively huge, but then i do love my dogs. I will think on this. Thanks.

Artie
 
nomifyle

nomifyle

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summerthyme said:
No, not baking powder! If it gets the slightest bit of moisture, it dies. What you can do is buy it in bulk (Sam's or restaurant supply) and vacuum seal it into tiny jelly jars. It essentially stops it from aging until you open it.

Summerthyme
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I vacuumed sealed mine in jars in the container.

all my dogs have survived and thrived on O'Roy, and rarely need vet care. They usually die of old age.

yesterday when I went to walmart I looked at dog food and only one or two 50 bags of o'roy. I'm in good shape dog food wise so i didn't get any. Plenty of paper products, I saw some shortages else where. The cracker isle was desimated, but I didn't need any anyway, we also don't eat saltines. The cheese section was spread way out to make up for the lack of cold cuts, although I did find what I wanted.

God is good all the time

Judy
 
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summerthyme

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Artificially Intelli said:
Thanks bro. I asked for your advice and i will seriously consider. The price difference is relatively huge, but then i do love my dogs. I will think on this. Thanks.

Artie
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A lot of the weight of the cheap foods are corn and cheap byproduct meals. Dogs consume a LOT more of them than they do the good brands, and the end result in the yard is much less. You might be surprised at how much little difference there is 8n end cost... especially if you factor in vet care costs.

That said, generations of farm dogs were kept healthy on Ol Roy and table scraps. If you make an effort to add some high quality protein (eggs are probably cheapest... they need to be cooked) and some sort of fat supplement (lard or tallow or the far off your homemade chicken broth) they can do well.

But keeping several big dogs is getting damned expensive. I just out in an order for over $450 to Chewy.com... up over $70 from 3 months ago. I also had to order several small bags to try yo find something Maggie likes. She apparently detests the Beef and Vegetable kibble the other two scarf down like starving piranhas. I got her to eat enough to gain a couple of pounds by mixing in cracklings and some lard from the most recent butchering. Plain lard doesn't cut it! The problem, she's skin, bones snd sinew. Bright eyes and beautiful coat, but she herds 8-11 hours a day... horses, cattle, sheep, chickens or kids...

I just discovered that she eats it all if I mix a small amount of shredded cheese into it, adding warm water as I always do to dissolve various supplements. I can pick up mild cheddar shredded in 5# bags at Aldi pretty cheap yet. Until we get a cow milking, I maybe better get a few bags... might be cheaper than some of those new dog foods I'm trying! Thank God shes tiny... maybe 25#, and she should be 30. She's not going to bankrupt us even feeding $3 a pound dog food. But I am going to start introducing myself to some dairy farmers in the area. I can buy calves that won't make it through the market, or won't bring enough to bother sending them, and butcher them into high quality fog food. I've gotten 30-40# of meat and bones off a calf I paid $10 for.

Summerthyme
 
Doc1

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Couple o' quick notes:

DW and I always stock up and keep the pantry and freezers full, but considering recent events, I suggested a little prep game of sorts. I suggested that we each take $100 of our respective personal funds and go on a prep shopping trip. Now I understand that $100 doesn't go far in a grocery store these days, but the object wasn't to further fill the house very much. What I wanted to accomplish is to see how far our thinking reconciled and what kind of deals we each could find.

Unsurprisingly, we didn't surprise each other at all, as we're pretty much on the same wavelength and we both came home with a good assortment of canned meats, veggies and dry foods. The only hitch in our game was that I didn't spend $20 of my $100 budget. I wanted to buy several (more) cans of corned beef and our favorite supermarket was charging $7.69 per can! I told DW that even in these inflationary times I knew I could do better than that. Not that long ago, that same supermarket was only charging $2.50 per can. This particular supermarket is not generally bad on prices, but for specific items you sometimes have to shop around to get a better deal.

A couple of days later I went to the local Family Dollar store and found the same corned beef for $4.60/can. I went over my $20 budget and cleaned them out of their remaining cans.

When I was checking out I mentioned the price difference and an older gent working the floor piped up - unsolicited - and said, "We're stocking up and I buy all of our canned goods here!" Note that I didn't say a word about stocking up; I only compared prices.

I didn't try to correct him and explain that all canned goods weren't cheaper at Family Dollar, but noted his eagerness to explain that his family was "stocking up." Recent events, inflation and skyrocketing prices seem to have filtered down to a lot of 'average Joes (and Joe-ttes)' who are jumping on the prep bandwagon. I notice this in various stores when, to a greater degree than in the past, I see some people making obvious bulk purchases of both sale items and regularly-priced goods. None of these folks, at least from outward appearances, seem to be prepper types.

I'd be interested to hear if you notice people doing apparent prep runs in your area(s).

Best
Doc
 
ainitfunny

ainitfunny

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Kritter said:
Just a fast report from my tiny town north of Lancaster, PA....there is zero chicken breast to be had at Weis or Giant, our major food retailers, for at least two weeks now. All the other parts of the chicken are in stock, just not the breast. I asked the meat guy and he said there was a shortage of workers at the packing plants, but then why would we not have a shortage on the other chicken parts? the thighs and the legs? So then, I tried a few of the local Amish butchers, dudes who literally butcher and sells their own fresh meat daily, and THEY had no chicken breast. One said it was because he was selling out everything now early each morning. Also half empty aisles and frozen food same as ya'all and still no cat food after a year. :/ ((**My bestest tin foil hat friend said it was because a pole shift was coming and they're moving all the food into the underground shelters and I immediately remembered timebomb and had to come to see if you had any theories!. :)
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Well, this is a wild ass THEORY with absolutely NOTHING but logic to back it up.
I believe the government has set up an inventory system that ROTATES THEIR MASSIVE STOCK OF EMERGENCY FOOD THROUGH PUBLIC SUPERMARKETS a set time BEFORE IT EXPIRES.
Their arrangement is with the WHOLESALERS, although the major supermarket chain bosses are aware of whats going on.
THE Freshest stuff goes into the government stockpile.

Ok, flame away, it's just my opinion.
 
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school marm

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DazedandConfused said:
Cooking oil is one of the first things that get gone and stay gone when Shtf.
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Here's an excerpt of an article written by a German gentleman who experienced WWII and the aftermath. There's more at the link below if you wish. This excerpt just pertains to cooking oil.

"May I share with you some experiences that I, along with millions of other Europeans, had in the days of devastation, total destruction, and starvation that became a reality for so many survivors of World War II. ...

Frequently I am asked, “What were the most valuable items in the days of starvation in Germany?” ...

As for what we needed, the food item we relied on most was vegetable oil. With a bottle of vegetable oil, one could acquire nearly every other desirable item. It had such value that with a quart of vegetable oil one could probably trade for three bushels of apples or three hundred pounds of potatoes. ...

How Beautiful to Live in These Times and Be Prepared
 
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bracketquant

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Doc1 said:
Couple o' quick notes:

DW and I always stock up and keep the pantry and freezers full, but considering recent events, I suggested a little prep game of sorts. I suggested that we each take $100 of our respective personal funds and go on a prep shopping trip. Now I understand that $100 doesn't go far in a grocery store these days, but the object wasn't to further fill the house very much. What I wanted to accomplish is to see how far our thinking reconciled and what kind of deals we each could find.

Unsurprisingly, we didn't surprise each other at all, as we're pretty much on the same wavelength and we both came home with a good assortment of canned meats, veggies and dry foods. The only hitch in our game was that I didn't spend $20 of my $100 budget. I wanted to buy several (more) cans of corned beef and our favorite supermarket was charging $7.69 per can! I told DW that even in these inflationary times I knew I could do better than that. Not that long ago, that same supermarket was only charging $2.50 per can. This particular supermarket is not generally bad on prices, but for specific items you sometimes have to shop around to get a better deal.

A couple of days later I went to the local Family Dollar store and found the same corned beef for $4.60/can. I went over my $20 budget and cleaned them out of their remaining cans.

When I was checking out I mentioned the price difference and an older gent working the floor piped up - unsolicited - and said, "We're stocking up and I buy all of our canned goods here!" Note that I didn't say a word about stocking up; I only compared prices.

I didn't try to correct him and explain that all canned goods weren't cheaper at Family Dollar, but noted his eagerness to explain that his family was "stocking up." Recent events, inflation and skyrocketing prices seem to have filtered down to a lot of 'average Joes (and Joe-ttes)' who are jumping on the prep bandwagon. I notice this in various stores when, to a greater degree than in the past, I see some people making obvious bulk purchases of both sale items and regularly-priced goods. None of these folks, at least from outward appearances, seem to be prepper types.

I'd be interested to hear if you notice people doing apparent prep runs in your area(s).

Best
Doc
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$100 doesn't go far? How about 204 pounds of pasta, or 400 cans of cream of mushroom soup?

It would be best to bring that amount of money when shopping, but buy things only when on sale. You did a very wise thing by not spending it all at once.

The way shopping patterns are, here, along with some store overstocking, perhaps some people are flipping some non-perishable food items that were purchased at a huge discount.
 
annieosage

annieosage

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Doc1 said:
Couple o' quick notes:

DW and I always stock up and keep the pantry and freezers full, but considering recent events, I suggested a little prep game of sorts. I suggested that we each take $100 of our respective personal funds and go on a prep shopping trip. Now I understand that $100 doesn't go far in a grocery store these days, but the object wasn't to further fill the house very much. What I wanted to accomplish is to see how far our thinking reconciled and what kind of deals we each could find.

Unsurprisingly, we didn't surprise each other at all, as we're pretty much on the same wavelength and we both came home with a good assortment of canned meats, veggies and dry foods. The only hitch in our game was that I didn't spend $20 of my $100 budget. I wanted to buy several (more) cans of corned beef and our favorite supermarket was charging $7.69 per can! I told DW that even in these inflationary times I knew I could do better than that. Not that long ago, that same supermarket was only charging $2.50 per can. This particular supermarket is not generally bad on prices, but for specific items you sometimes have to shop around to get a better deal.

A couple of days later I went to the local Family Dollar store and found the same corned beef for $4.60/can. I went over my $20 budget and cleaned them out of their remaining cans.

When I was checking out I mentioned the price difference and an older gent working the floor piped up - unsolicited - and said, "We're stocking up and I buy all of our canned goods here!" Note that I didn't say a word about stocking up; I only compared prices.

I didn't try to correct him and explain that all canned goods weren't cheaper at Family Dollar, but noted his eagerness to explain that his family was "stocking up." Recent events, inflation and skyrocketing prices seem to have filtered down to a lot of 'average Joes (and Joe-ttes)' who are jumping on the prep bandwagon. I notice this in various stores when, to a greater degree than in the past, I see some people making obvious bulk purchases of both sale items and regularly-priced goods. None of these folks, at least from outward appearances, seem to be prepper types.

I'd be interested to hear if you notice people doing apparent prep runs in your area(s).

Best
Doc
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I don't go out much but haven't noticed anyone really "prepping". I did go past Sam's Club on my way to the vet Sunday and it was early but the place was packed. I'm sure because of Superbowl.

I just checked my store (Smith's) and Kroger brand corned beef is $2.99 but the Libby brand is $6.49!! They do have a shipping option so you could order some online if needed:

Kroger Corned Beef
 
greysage

greysage

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Did a little topper-offer this morning. Hannafords, south-central northwest Vermont.

It's hit or miss on the holes. Ordered delivery last week, no half and half. Plenty of it today, yet only about 25% stocked total.

Grabbed three things of spices, holes there, got the last dill.

No problem on chicken, got some good quality, well trimmed boneless breast $3.78lb. Best by 2/24. Chicken was only about 40% stocked. But it's Tuesday too.

Black beans, a big zero unless you want $1.75 can organic, bought one. There were spicy flavored black beans too.

Got bread but not the exact one I wanted. Diet cola $3.79 for 6/16oz.
 
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amazon

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Dog Lovers (Dennis, Summer, anyone else), I feed my Aussie Beneful. Should I switch to something else? If I switch, should I gradually introduce the new food by mixing with the Beneful to get her used to it. I'm low and getting ready to buy several large bags. If Beneful is not great I should go ahead and buy something else.

She LOVES Ol Roy Crunchy bones and has one every day. I guess they're not too good either.
 
packyderms_wife

packyderms_wife

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coloradohermit said:
I use about 1 avocado/week to add bits into my tossed salad. I got one yesterday at Kroger for $0.87. not bad. This morning there was an article on the MSN home page that avocados from Mexico will be banned for a while due to some kind of threat to an inspector. So prices are expected to rise big time if there's even any availability of avocados.
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Avocados grow all over the west coast and in the coastal regions of the Gulf of Mexico. Learn how to eat one that's not a Haas variety.
 
packyderms_wife

packyderms_wife

Neither here nor there.
Stopped at Fareway this afternoon to get a couple of things that are on sale today and the chicken hind quarters are SMALL!!!! The butcher said they're getting a lot of " baby" chickens and parts in of late. Everything was well stocked, no texas toast bread though.
 
packyderms_wife

packyderms_wife

Neither here nor there.
amazon said:
Dog Lovers (Dennis, Summer, anyone else), I feed my Aussie Beneful. Should I switch to something else? If I switch, should I gradually introduce the new food by mixing with the Beneful to get her used to it. I'm low and getting ready to buy several large bags. If Beneful is not great I should go ahead and buy something else.

She LOVES Ol Roy Crunchy bones and has one every day. I guess they're not too good either.
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What does your vet recommend?
 
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Terrwyn

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Received an order from Chewy today. 4- 40 lb bags of kitty litter. It's up by 2 bucks a bag. Ordered one box of 12 new one by Fancy feast. Comes in those little aluminum foil covered things. 13 a box. Basically what they are doing is repackaging fancy feast that cost 19 for 24 cans into smaller packages that now cost 26.16 for 24. Maybe if I cared enough they think we are stupid I would complain and get my free coupons they always send if you complain. I'm just fed up with the whole mess. Wish I was still young enough to join CW2 though. It's past time to bring down the machine as the Anarchists like to say.
 
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urthmom

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Artificially Intelli said:
How can goat cubes be "bone in" ?
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Think take a chain saw to a goat carcass. Actually, try a cleaver or meat saw. I've purchased goat meat that was pretty much "goat cubes" from an Indian market about 10 years ago for a specialty curry. The Americans didn't care for it, but those of middle eastern origins loved it.

Never expected to hear of Walmart carrying chevron.
 
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Terrwyn

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urthmom said:
Think take a chain saw to a goat carcass. Actually, try a cleaver or meat saw. I've purchased goat meat that was pretty much "goat cubes" from an Indian market about 10 years ago for a specialty curry. The Americans didn't care for it, but those of middle eastern origins loved it.

Never expected to hear of Walmart carrying chevron.
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The Mexican Markets around here carry it along with whole pigs with their heads which I used to find repulsive.
 
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Terrwyn

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Did an Instart order at Vons this morning. They had the price of their beef slashed. Rib Eyes formerly 19.00 lb now 8 something. Cube steaks same big discount. Grass fed 93-7 beef 20% off. Organic chicken breasts out of sight expensive. But bought 2 because you can never find them anymore. I was worried the beef might be past the date but it looked fine to me. Shortages in many items. Ordered 2 Nathan's hot dogs and they only had one package. Same with several other items one when I ordered 2. Orange juice no pulp only but the big container for a change. Produce nice except for the lettuce which wasn't that thrilling.
Only 1 refund. The LA Brea bakery loaf. None from that great bakery at all.
So it worked out pretty darn good. Shopper was very competent considering how stressful this is now days. You can just feel how messed up everything is. Spidey senses on high alert.
 
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ainitfunny said:
Well, this is a wild ass THEORY with absolutely NOTHING but logic to back it up.
I believe the government has set up an inventory system that ROTATES THEIR MASSIVE STOCK OF EMERGENCY FOOD THROUGH PUBLIC SUPERMARKETS a set time BEFORE IT EXPIRES.
Their arrangement is with the WHOLESALERS, although the major supermarket chain bosses are aware of whats going on.
THE Freshest stuff goes into the government stockpile.

Ok, flame away, it's just my opinion.
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No flame here.

ainitfunny as far as I know the US government hasn't had a "massive stock or emergency food" since Earl Butz was Secretary of Agriculture back when Gerald Ford was President. They stopped all those programs leftover from WWII and the Great Depression back then. They handed out what they had and that was that.
 
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Just Plain Mom

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Today was Costco day! We have their visa credit card, and once a year, they give you a certificate for all of the cash rewards you have accumulated, and today was the day--so off we went to do some heavy shopping. Lol, well...not so heavy, because my pantry isn't too bare, as it usually would be in February. So rather than the $1000+ I would normally spend, I simply spent my certificate, which was just under $500.

First of all, they had cat food!!! Hooray! Our area is almost completely out so Husband loaded the cart with that. We went down the list--and nothing on that list was out of stock except a special brand my neighbor had asked me to look for. In fact, they looked pretty good today. We didn't buy any meat, but I did look at prices, and some of them seemed to have come down a little bit. A couple of things on my list had increased just a bit but most hadn't. I had estimated a dollar or more increase per item and wouldn't have spent the whole certificate if Husband hadn't thought with his tummy and added a few things to the cart when I wasn't looking. :shr::rolleyes:;)

It was first thing in the morning, and very busy, probably because certificates had just come out the night before. They were prepared for it, and the wait wasn't any longer than normal.
 
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Old Gray Mare

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ainitfunny said:
That is frightenly short sighted, naive even for people who are acting like children but are charged with leading and assuring the security of this nation!
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Yup.

If there's a food crisis of any sort people better have a well stocked pantry. Anyone who thinks Uncle Sam is going to be riding over the hill like the cavalry with hot fresh Starbucks and croissants is in for a surprise.
 
SouthernBreeze

SouthernBreeze

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I just got back home from small town grocery shopping. Walmart was completely stocked, and the price of ground beef was cheaper than it was 2 weeks ago. $3.19/lb as compared to $3.45. Pork prices were the same, as well as the bags of Tyson boneless chicken breasts. The only 2 things that I noticed were low was dog food and canned cat food. NE MS
 
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WalknTrot

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(N MN) Today was the day to hit town, since the weather is taking an ugly turn for at least the next week...cold, snow, wind, and any combination of those that you can imagine. At a whole 18 degrees, screaming wind (drifting) and sunny, today was as good as it's going to get for a while.

Walmart pickup went fine, and they even had the 10 lb bags of cheap chicken quarters again. I can't pass them up at .66/lb. Everything I ordered was in stock, no subs.

Filled up the truck at the Kwik Trip- unleaded was 3.29/gal and there were a lot of pumps with bags over the nozzles. Surprised they had a supply problem/empty tanks on a Wednesday afternoon, but there was a lot of traffic and bustling about. Probably other folks had the same weather incentive I did.
 
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bracketquant

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ainitfunny said:
Well, this is a wild ass THEORY with absolutely NOTHING but logic to back it up.
I believe the government has set up an inventory system that ROTATES THEIR MASSIVE STOCK OF EMERGENCY FOOD THROUGH PUBLIC SUPERMARKETS a set time BEFORE IT EXPIRES.
Their arrangement is with the WHOLESALERS, although the major supermarket chain bosses are aware of whats going on.
THE Freshest stuff goes into the government stockpile.

Ok, flame away, it's just my opinion.
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I think that the easiest way to debunk the theory is that it would create work for some government non-worker. Knowing the difference between private and public sector logic is needed to reach this conclusion.
 
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