CORONA ‘Narrative has completely collapsed’: Israeli hospital shows ‘80% of serious COVID cases are fully vaxxed’

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‘Narrative has completely collapsed’: Israeli hospital shows ‘80% of serious COVID cases are fully vaxxed’


An Israeli doctor has claimed that the majority of serious hospitalizations at the Tel Aviv hospital where he works have been vaccinated thrice.

“Right now, most of our severe cases are vaccinated. They had at least three injections,” Prof. Yaakov Jerris, the head of the COVID department at at the Tel Aviv Sourasky Medical Center (commonly known as the Ichilov Hospital), said in an interview last week, as reported last week by Arutz Sheva.


“Between seventy and eighty percent of the serious cases are vaccinated. So, the vaccine has no significance regarding severe illness, which is why just twenty to twenty-five percent of our patients are unvaccinated.”

If his unsubstantiated claim is proven to be true, it would mean that the COVID vaccine “narrative has completely collapsed,” as noted below by conservative commentator Benny Johnson:

View: https://twitter.com/bennyjohnson/status/1490060143551295489?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1490060143551295489%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Famericanwirenews.com%2Fnarrative-has-completely-collapsed-israeli-hospital-shows-80-of-serious-covid-cases-are-fully-vaxxed%2F


View: https://twitter.com/DrEliDavid/status/1489346488241168388?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1489346488241168388%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Famericanwirenews.com%2Fnarrative-has-completely-collapsed-israeli-hospital-shows-80-of-serious-covid-cases-are-fully-vaxxed%2F


However, Jerris did throw out a notable caveat.

“Defining a serious patient is problematic. For example, a patient with a chronic lung disease always had a low level of oxygen, but now he has a positive coronavirus test result which technically makes him a ‘serious coronavirus patient,’ but that’s not accurate. The patient is only in a difficult condition because he has a serious underlying illness,” he reportedly said at a cabinet meeting a week earlier.

He appeared to be suggesting that the Ichilov Hospital’s system for diagnosing “serious coronavirus” patients” may not be entirely accurate.


And indeed, what he said about the vaccinated representing the majority of serious patients being vaccinated does contrast sharply with the data coming from the rest of the world.

Over here in the U.S., for instance, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) say that the unvaccinated have a “9x higher” chance of being hospitalized than the vaccinated:


SG-CDC-Hospitalization.jpg

(Source: CDC)

That being said, this rate is lower than it was during the Delta outbreak, and the CDC admitted just last week that hospitalizations among the vaccinated have in fact increased amid the current Omicron outbreak. But the CDC did also stress that the chance of a “serious” hospitalization still remains low.

“The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) analysis of a single hospital in Los Angeles found there were more hospitalizations during omicron compared to delta, but that among omicron-period patients, vaccination — particularly vaccination plus a booster dose — was associated with lower likelihood of admission to an intensive care unit,” according to The Hill.

“Among adults at least 65 years old hospitalized during omicron, vaccination was also associated with a lower likelihood of death while hospitalized.”

Some suspect that natural immunity may explain why the hospitalization rate among the vaccinated is beginning to level out with the hospitalization rate among the unvaccinated.

The longer that the coronavirus spreads among the population, the more unvaccinated people who contract it and develop immunity.

The CDC for its part finally began recognizing the legitimacy of natural immunity last month, when it published a paper that found that natural immunity offered “greater” protection than the vaccine “after the highly transmissible Delta variant became predominant, coinciding with early declining of vaccine-induced immunity.”

View: https://twitter.com/americanwire_/status/1484873738898206722?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1484873738898206722%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Famericanwirenews.com%2Fnarrative-has-completely-collapsed-israeli-hospital-shows-80-of-serious-covid-cases-are-fully-vaxxed%2F


Dovetailing back to Israel, what might explain the alleged phenomenon witnessed by Jerris? Some believe it could be the fact that an estimated 98.9 percent of the nation’s population has been vaccinated. And so in Israel, the vaccinated grossly outnumber the unvaccinated.

In the U.S., meanwhile, only 64.1 percent of the population was fully vaccinated as of Feb. 5th, according to the Mayo Clinic. Incidentally, as this rate has slowly ticked up over the past year, the hospitalization rate difference between the vaccinated and unvaccinated has declined. Coincidence or conspiracy?

SG-Vaccinated-Rate-U.S..jpg

(Source: Mayo Clinic)
Note also that Jerris’ remarks didn’t include any mention of deaths.

“Israelis over 60 who are either unvaccinated or only partially vaccinated against COVID-19 died in significantly higher numbers last month compared to people in their age cohort who are fully vaccinated, according to official figures published by the Israeli Health Ministry,” Haaretz reported Sunday.

“These numbers highlight once again the stark contrast between the vaccinated and unvaccinated as Israel grapples with the fifth wave of a pandemic that has killed more than 9,000 people since March 2020.”

 

Knoxville's Joker

Has No Life - Lives on TB
I think this is another example of how the experts are continually flummoxed by covid.

Actually I think it is more where they are enacting political mandates and calling it science. But in the process they are doing things bass ackwards making things worse. It is becoming more obvious that the experts are just politicians with some initials and not true scientists in many cases following the orders of their masters instead of science and prudent public policy in accordance with bioethical and nuremburg accord principals.
 

tm1439m

Veteran Member
This post says nothing. We already know that 94% or 96% of the people in Israel are vaccinated so to think anything other than that most of the people in the hospital with Covid in Israel are anything but vaccinated would just seem ignorant to me. The other thread made a valid point but in my opinion this thread follows the not informed mentality. Just my opinion, you can not have your cake and eat it too.

Move along folks, nothing to see here.

ETA: The ignorance is that of the people making these claims not the people here on TB2K. :D
Also not saying these claims are not true but they should already have been obvious. Its no surprise or anything unexpected of the situation. And actually if you think about it the Covid case numbers seem a little low there considering how many of them have Covid vaccinations. There is a lower percentage of people in the hospitol that were vaccinated than they claim the number of the population that is vaccinated. Must be some no resident people in those hospitals or something is not adding up.
 
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Chance

Veteran Member
The point is...the new "narrative" is 'the 'vaccine' is suppose to keep people out of the hospitals, keep them from severe covid symptoms'. As we can see, the vaccine isn't protecting these people from squat. Even 3 and 4 shots. Covid numbers in the vaccinated have surged past Covid numbers when there was no vaccine.

It's failing all the way around - it was suppose to prevent some 97% of Covid to start with...and then when THEY saw that wasn't working, they changed the "narrative" to: 'well, it keeps you from getting severe Covid and from being hospitalized'. Another FAIL. Obviously.

Even Canadian numbers are showing the abject failure of this 'vaccine'..,
An investigation of official Government of Canada data has revealed that the fully vaccinated account for 9 in every 10 Covid-19 cases, and 7 in every 10 Covid-19 hospitalisations and deaths across Canada in the most recent wave of infections to hit the country.

This is
despite just 6 in every 10 people in Canada being fully vaccinated; suggesting the Covid-19 injections do not only fail to work, they actually make recipients worse.

.https://dailyexpose.uk/2022/02/06/canadas-pandemic-of-the-fully-vaccinated/

The fact is - We have no proof it ever worked against Covid. There never was "asymptomatic" Covid...those people were fine. Big lie. PCR test for Covid was jacked up. They knew it. Pfizer/FDA won't release their EUA clinical trials data....why? Because it will show that a lot of people died in the trials. And probably a third were injured.

But what we are seeing since this 'vaccine' came out - an increase in all-cause mortality. An increase in heart attacks, blood clots, strokes, along with shingles, Bell's palsy, etc.

The following article is dated June 12, 2021 **Israel started their vaccination program on December 21, 2020 = 20% of the population had received the first shot by 3 weeks - problems started showing up**
"Concerningly, however, Israel has seen a renewed and continued increase in all-cause mortality since mid-February; in fact, by March 21, Israel reported the highest excess mortality of all countries participating in Euromomo. In contrast, many other European countries currently report a post winter wave negative excess mortality. **Deaths that follow a vaccine are not counted as vaccine deaths if within two weeks of getting the shot.**

The cause behind this renewed increase in Israeli all-cause mortality appears to be unclear. According to Israeli newspaper YNet, the director of an Israeli clinic explained that they are currently seeing “a murky wave of heart attacks”. The director believes that this might be due to the “persistent stressful situation” and the “neglect of preventive medical care”.

Although quite a few cases of post-vaccination heart muscle inflammation, heart failure and heart attacks have been reported in Israel since December (see e.g. 1, 2, 3), the hospital director argues that “a connection to heart damage from the vaccine has not yet been proven to be significant.”


SAN DIEGO (KUSI) – Several US life insurance companies have recently revealed an overwhelming unexplained increase (40%) in “all-cause deaths” amongst 18 to 49-year-olds. **In Senator Ron Johnsons's Covid-19 roundtable, one of the physicians brought up a noted 40% increase in all-cause deaths in a certain age range he gave - can't remember - but it was somewhere around 25 to 40 years olds....?? Pretty young people.**



Also, three named and several unnamed military physician “whistle-blowers” have just released real data from the DoD, drawn from the clinical diagnosis codes. The increases found are from 2021, compared to the five year average from 2016 to 2020.

Myocardial infarction: 269% increase
> Miscarriages: 300% increase
> Bell’s palsy: 291% increase
> Congenital malformations: 156% increase
> Female infertility: 471% increase
> Pulmonary embolisms: 467% increase
> Neurologic abnormalities: 300% increase
> Cancers: 300% increase

The military database (DMSS - Defense Medical Surveillance System) is showing spikes in miscarriages, cancers, myocardial infactions, Bell's Palsy, pulmonary embolisms, female infertility.... :

I think the evidence is overwhelming how bad these 'vaccines' are. Isn't the definition of stupid doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result? How many boosters are people going to take??

Just like this Israeli doctor reported,
"the confusion in reporting cases" is due to a patient testing positive who isn't in the hospital for Covid-19 problems...the patient is in there for something else, yet they are counted as a Covid-19 patient.
'80% of serious COVID cases are fully vaccinated' says Ichilov hospital director | Israel National News - Arutz Sheva

People are coming in very ill with other than Covid and they are testing positive for Covid and counted as Covid. This is a BIG PROBLEM. Because then they go ahead and treat them for Covid ignoring why thy are actually in the hospital. And it's probably because of a vaccine related injury. But the hospital gets their big bucks. (This was covered in Senator Johnson's roundtable also with actual numbers $$.)

Talk about crimes against humanity! My God!

I had commented elsewhere about my brother being in a NM hospital recently...he was in an ER room for 7 days because the hospital was full. The last couple of days of his 'stay' - the ER filled up - beds in the hallway, patients in chairs, the lobby was full of ill people. He asked one of his nurses what was going on - she said - 'It's vaccine injured. They have filled up the ER and the hospital is full up with them.' There are lots of other identical stories across the country. Even in my state of CO.

Edited to add more info.
 
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Barry Natchitoches

Has No Life - Lives on TB
The point is...the new "narrative" is 'the 'vaccine' is suppose to keep people out of the hospitals, keep them from severe covid symptoms'. As we can see, the vaccine isn't protecting these people from squat. Even 3 and 4 shots. Covid numbers in the vaccinated have surged past Covid numbers when there was no vaccine.

It's failing all the way around - it was suppose to prevent some 97% of Covid to start with...and then we saw that wasn't working, the "narrative" became, 'well, it keeps you from getting severe Covid and from being hospitalized'. Another FAIL. Obviously.

Uggghhhhh...

Houston, we have a problem...
 

Coulter

Veteran Member
The point is...the new "narrative" is 'the 'vaccine' is suppose to keep people out of the hospitals, keep them from severe covid symptoms'. As we can see, the vaccine isn't protecting these people from squat. Even 3 and 4 shots. Covid numbers in the vaccinated have surged past Covid numbers when there was no vaccine.

It's failing all the way around - it was suppose to prevent some 97% of Covid to start with...and then we saw that wasn't working, the "narrative" became, 'well, it keeps you from getting severe Covid and from being hospitalized'. Another FAIL. Obviously.
Hard to understand how someone on this thread can't comprehend this.
 

tm1439m

Veteran Member
Hard to understand how someone on this thread can't comprehend this.
If you were referring to me I fully understand it but it seems maybe you don't get my point. :) . If almost everyone in a country is vaccinated it just stands to reason that most in the hospital with Covid would also be vaccinated. Its no surprise there nor is it new news.
 

mistaken1

Has No Life - Lives on TB
How long did it take to prove causation in cigarette smoking and lung cancer or asbestos and lung cancer?

They are going to drag out the vaccine injury causation every bit as long .... 75 years to release the data ....
 

Countrymouse

Country exile in the city
The point is...the new "narrative" is 'the 'vaccine' is suppose to keep people out of the hospitals, keep them from severe covid symptoms'. As we can see, the vaccine isn't protecting these people from squat. Even 3 and 4 shots. Covid numbers in the vaccinated have surged past Covid numbers when there was no vaccine.

It's failing all the way around - it was suppose to prevent some 97% of Covid to start with...and then when THEY saw that wasn't working, they changed the "narrative" to: 'well, it keeps you from getting severe Covid and from being hospitalized'. Another FAIL. Obviously.

Even Canadian numbers are showing the abject failure of this 'vaccine'..,
An investigation of official Government of Canada data has revealed that the fully vaccinated account for 9 in every 10 Covid-19 cases, and 7 in every 10 Covid-19 hospitalisations and deaths across Canada in the most recent wave of infections to hit the country.

This is
despite just 6 in every 10 people in Canada being fully vaccinated; suggesting the Covid-19 injections do not only fail to work, they actually make recipients worse.

.https://dailyexpose.uk/2022/02/06/canadas-pandemic-of-the-fully-vaccinated/

The fact is - We have no proof it ever worked against Covid. There never was "asymptomatic" Covid...those people were fine. Big lie. PCR test for Covid was jacked up. They knew it. Pfizer/FDA won't release their EUA clinical trials data....why? Because it will show that a lot of people died in the trials. And probably a third were injured.

But what we are seeing since this 'vaccine' came out - an increase in all-cause mortality. An increase in heart attacks, blood clots, strokes, along with shingles, Bell's palsy, etc.

The following article is dated June 12, 2021 **Israel started their vaccination program on December 21, 2020 = 20% of the population had received the first shot by 3 weeks - problems started showing up**
"Concerningly, however, Israel has seen a renewed and continued increase in all-cause mortality since mid-February; in fact, by March 21, Israel reported the highest excess mortality of all countries participating in Euromomo. In contrast, many other European countries currently report a post winter wave negative excess mortality. **Deaths that follow a vaccine are not counted as vaccine deaths if within two weeks of getting the shot.**

The cause behind this renewed increase in Israeli all-cause mortality appears to be unclear. According to Israeli newspaper YNet, the director of an Israeli clinic explained that they are currently seeing “a murky wave of heart attacks”. The director believes that this might be due to the “persistent stressful situation” and the “neglect of preventive medical care”.

Although quite a few cases of post-vaccination heart muscle inflammation, heart failure and heart attacks have been reported in Israel since December (see e.g. 1, 2, 3), the hospital director argues that “a connection to heart damage from the vaccine has not yet been proven to be significant.”


SAN DIEGO (KUSI) – Several US life insurance companies have recently revealed an overwhelming unexplained increase (40%) in “all-cause deaths” amongst 18 to 49-year-olds. **In Senator Ron Johnsons's Covid-19 roundtable, one of the physicians brought up a noted 40% increase in all-cause deaths in a certain age range he gave - can't remember - but it was somewhere around 25 to 40 years olds....?? Pretty young people.**



Also, three named and several unnamed military physician “whistle-blowers” have just released real data from the DoD, drawn from the clinical diagnosis codes. The increases found are from 2021, compared to the five year average from 2016 to 2020.



The military database (DMSS - Defense Medical Surveillance System) is showing spikes in miscarriages, cancers, myocardial infactions, Bell's Palsy, pulmonary embolisms, female infertility.... :

I think the evidence is overwhelming how bad these 'vaccines' are. Isn't the definition of stupid doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result? How many boosters are people going to take??

Just like this Israeli doctor reported,
"the confusion in reporting cases" is due to a patient testing positive who isn't in the hospital for Covid-19 problems...the patient is in there for something else, yet they are counted as a Covid-19 patient.
'80% of serious COVID cases are fully vaccinated' says Ichilov hospital director | Israel National News - Arutz Sheva

People are coming in very ill with other than Covid and they are testing positive for Covid and counted as Covid. This is a BIG PROBLEM. Because then they go ahead and treat them for Covid ignoring why thy are actually in the hospital. And it's probably because of a vaccine related injury. But the hospital gets their big bucks. (This was covered in Senator Johnson's roundtable also with actual numbers $$.)

Talk about crimes against humanity! My God!

I had commented elsewhere about my brother being in a NM hospital recently...he was in an ER room for 7 days because the hospital was full. The last couple of days of his 'stay' - the ER filled up - beds in the hallway, patients in chairs, the lobby was full of ill people. He asked one of his nurses what was going on - she said - 'It's vaccine injured. They have filled up the ER and the hospital is full up with them.' There are lots of other identical stories across the country. Even in my state of CO.

Edited to add more info.


'It's vaccine injured. They have filled up the ER and the hospital is full up with them.'


Well THANK GOD for at least ONE NURSE who SPEAKS THE TRUTH.
 

Tristan

Has No Life - Lives on TB
If you were referring to me I fully understand it but it seems maybe you don't get my point. :) . If almost everyone in a country is vaccinated it just stands to reason that most in the hospital with Covid would also be vaccinated. Its no surprise there nor is it new news.


Not. if. the. "vaccine". worked.
 

tm1439m

Veteran Member
Not. if. the. "vaccine". worked.

I am not talking about if's I am talking about what is actually going on.
If everyone in that country is vaccinated and there are people in the hospital there then exactly where did the people in the hospital come from if not vaccinated? :D I totally understand what is going on and being said but apparently some do not get my point and I am OK with that.
 

BUBBAHOTEPT

Veteran Member
To tell you truth, who's on first….. :p :p
Things should be simpler than this…. :spns: And I don’t know who's on second….:p
You know, I hope we are all wrong, and this thing will turn out to be a bad dream. And we will all be sitting in a happy place watching this concert…..:spns: Just Sayin, you know, like before masks….
View: https://youtu.be/MwAH94WGI4I
 

Athena

Contributing Member
The point is...the new "narrative" is 'the 'vaccine' is suppose to keep people out of the hospitals, keep them from severe covid symptoms'. As we can see, the vaccine isn't protecting these people from squat. Even 3 and 4 shots. Covid numbers in the vaccinated have surged past Covid numbers when there was no vaccine.

It's failing all the way around - it was suppose to prevent some 97% of Covid to start with...and then when THEY saw that wasn't working, they changed the "narrative" to: 'well, it keeps you from getting severe Covid and from being hospitalized'. Another FAIL. Obviously.

Even Canadian numbers are showing the abject failure of this 'vaccine'..,
An investigation of official Government of Canada data has revealed that the fully vaccinated account for 9 in every 10 Covid-19 cases, and 7 in every 10 Covid-19 hospitalisations and deaths across Canada in the most recent wave of infections to hit the country.

This is
despite just 6 in every 10 people in Canada being fully vaccinated; suggesting the Covid-19 injections do not only fail to work, they actually make recipients worse.

.https://dailyexpose.uk/2022/02/06/canadas-pandemic-of-the-fully-vaccinated/

The fact is - We have no proof it ever worked against Covid. There never was "asymptomatic" Covid...those people were fine. Big lie. PCR test for Covid was jacked up. They knew it. Pfizer/FDA won't release their EUA clinical trials data....why? Because it will show that a lot of people died in the trials. And probably a third were injured.

But what we are seeing since this 'vaccine' came out - an increase in all-cause mortality. An increase in heart attacks, blood clots, strokes, along with shingles, Bell's palsy, etc.

The following article is dated June 12, 2021 **Israel started their vaccination program on December 21, 2020 = 20% of the population had received the first shot by 3 weeks - problems started showing up**
"Concerningly, however, Israel has seen a renewed and continued increase in all-cause mortality since mid-February; in fact, by March 21, Israel reported the highest excess mortality of all countries participating in Euromomo. In contrast, many other European countries currently report a post winter wave negative excess mortality. **Deaths that follow a vaccine are not counted as vaccine deaths if within two weeks of getting the shot.**

The cause behind this renewed increase in Israeli all-cause mortality appears to be unclear. According to Israeli newspaper YNet, the director of an Israeli clinic explained that they are currently seeing “a murky wave of heart attacks”. The director believes that this might be due to the “persistent stressful situation” and the “neglect of preventive medical care”.

Although quite a few cases of post-vaccination heart muscle inflammation, heart failure and heart attacks have been reported in Israel since December (see e.g. 1, 2, 3), the hospital director argues that “a connection to heart damage from the vaccine has not yet been proven to be significant.”


SAN DIEGO (KUSI) – Several US life insurance companies have recently revealed an overwhelming unexplained increase (40%) in “all-cause deaths” amongst 18 to 49-year-olds. **In Senator Ron Johnsons's Covid-19 roundtable, one of the physicians brought up a noted 40% increase in all-cause deaths in a certain age range he gave - can't remember - but it was somewhere around 25 to 40 years olds....?? Pretty young people.**



Also, three named and several unnamed military physician “whistle-blowers” have just released real data from the DoD, drawn from the clinical diagnosis codes. The increases found are from 2021, compared to the five year average from 2016 to 2020.



The military database (DMSS - Defense Medical Surveillance System) is showing spikes in miscarriages, cancers, myocardial infactions, Bell's Palsy, pulmonary embolisms, female infertility.... :

I think the evidence is overwhelming how bad these 'vaccines' are. Isn't the definition of stupid doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result? How many boosters are people going to take??

Just like this Israeli doctor reported,
"the confusion in reporting cases" is due to a patient testing positive who isn't in the hospital for Covid-19 problems...the patient is in there for something else, yet they are counted as a Covid-19 patient.
'80% of serious COVID cases are fully vaccinated' says Ichilov hospital director | Israel National News - Arutz Sheva

People are coming in very ill with other than Covid and they are testing positive for Covid and counted as Covid. This is a BIG PROBLEM. Because then they go ahead and treat them for Covid ignoring why thy are actually in the hospital. And it's probably because of a vaccine related injury. But the hospital gets their big bucks. (This was covered in Senator Johnson's roundtable also with actual numbers $$.)

Talk about crimes against humanity! My God!

I had commented elsewhere about my brother being in a NM hospital recently...he was in an ER room for 7 days because the hospital was full. The last couple of days of his 'stay' - the ER filled up - beds in the hallway, patients in chairs, the lobby was full of ill people. He asked one of his nurses what was going on - she said - 'It's vaccine injured. They have filled up the ER and the hospital is full up with them.' There are lots of other identical stories across the country. Even in my state of CO.

Edited to add more info.

A brilliant recap and assessment of the shit show we're in now. Thank you for posting.

"People are coming in very ill with other than Covid and they are testing positive for Covid and counted as Covid. This is a BIG PROBLEM. Because then they go ahead and treat them for Covid ignoring why thy are actually in the hospital. And it's probably because of a vaccine related injury. But the hospital gets their big bucks. (This was covered in Senator Johnson's roundtable also with actual numbers $$.)"

Completely agree with you on this. This is how they're cloaking the extent of the problem now and hiding adverse effects. And now they're trying to lump adverse effects from the vaccine into the amorphous catch call of "long COVID":

 

bw

Fringe Ranger
When does fauci along with the vax execs and the NIH execs and the FDA execs go on trial for crimes against humanity?

Tickets for the Vax Trials are not yet on sale, and you CAN buy tickets to go to Mars if I recall right. So do the math.
 

psychrn

Senior Member
This post says nothing. We already know that 94% or 96% of the people in Israel are vaccinated so to think anything other than that most of the people in the hospital with Covid in Israel are anything but vaccinated would just seem ignorant to me. The other thread made a valid point but in my opinion this thread follows the not informed mentality. Just my opinion, you can not have your cake and eat it too.

Move along folks, nothing to see here.

ETA: The ignorance is that of the people making these claims not the people here on TB2K. :D
Also not saying these claims are not true but they should already have been obvious. Its no surprise or anything unexpected of the situation. And actually if you think about it the Covid case numbers seem a little low there considering how many of them have Covid vaccinations. There is a lower percentage of people in the hospitol that were vaccinated than they claim the number of the population that is vaccinated. Must be some no resident people in those hospitals or something is not adding up.
I was preparing to reply to your post, but I ended up reading everyone else's posts, and decided that I didn't need to waste my time.

So, to sum up, your ignorance has no bounds.

You, sir, are at best, controlled opposition.

Good day.
 

von Koehler

Has No Life - Lives on TB
To tell you truth, who's on first….. :p :p
Things should be simpler than this…. :spns: And I don’t know who's on second….:p
You know, I hope we are all wrong, and this thing will turn out to be a bad dream. And we will all be sitting in a happy place watching this concert…..:spns: Just Sayin, you know, like before masks….
View: https://youtu.be/MwAH94WGI4I

Wolkenfrei means "cloudless" so it refers to the musical style; upbeat popular tunes.
 

ainitfunny

Saved, to glorify God.
Im 78.
Unvaxed.

97%+ of the people who get Omicron survive without the "vaccine".

All of the Unvaxed people who survive Omicron are left with strong, natural, lasting immunity to Covidv19 and Delta!

All of the unvaxed have their strong natural immunity intact, undamaged by the vaccine.

All of the unvaxed escape the vaccine side effects of: heart problems, clotting problems, miscarriage problems, immunity destroying to the point of becoming AIDS PATIENTS, sterility problems, erectile disfunction, bleeding problems, brain problems, stroke problems, pulmonary embolisms, organ failure, cancer remission reversal and a host of other terrible side effects of just taking the vaccine.

So, NO THANK YOU, I'll risk the disease WITHOUT your "vaccine".
 
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lonestar09

Veteran Member
‘Narrative has completely collapsed’: Israeli hospital shows ‘80% of serious COVID cases are fully vaxxed’


An Israeli doctor has claimed that the majority of serious hospitalizations at the Tel Aviv hospital where he works have been vaccinated thrice.

“Right now, most of our severe cases are vaccinated. They had at least three injections,” Prof. Yaakov Jerris, the head of the COVID department at at the Tel Aviv Sourasky Medical Center (commonly known as the Ichilov Hospital), said in an interview last week, as reported last week by Arutz Sheva.


“Between seventy and eighty percent of the serious cases are vaccinated. So, the vaccine has no significance regarding severe illness, which is why just twenty to twenty-five percent of our patients are unvaccinated.”

If his unsubstantiated claim is proven to be true, it would mean that the COVID vaccine “narrative has completely collapsed,” as noted below by conservative commentator Benny Johnson:

View: https://twitter.com/bennyjohnson/status/1490060143551295489?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1490060143551295489%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Famericanwirenews.com%2Fnarrative-has-completely-collapsed-israeli-hospital-shows-80-of-serious-covid-cases-are-fully-vaxxed%2F


View: https://twitter.com/DrEliDavid/status/1489346488241168388?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1489346488241168388%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Famericanwirenews.com%2Fnarrative-has-completely-collapsed-israeli-hospital-shows-80-of-serious-covid-cases-are-fully-vaxxed%2F


However, Jerris did throw out a notable caveat.

“Defining a serious patient is problematic. For example, a patient with a chronic lung disease always had a low level of oxygen, but now he has a positive coronavirus test result which technically makes him a ‘serious coronavirus patient,’ but that’s not accurate. The patient is only in a difficult condition because he has a serious underlying illness,” he reportedly said at a cabinet meeting a week earlier.

He appeared to be suggesting that the Ichilov Hospital’s system for diagnosing “serious coronavirus” patients” may not be entirely accurate.


And indeed, what he said about the vaccinated representing the majority of serious patients being vaccinated does contrast sharply with the data coming from the rest of the world.

Over here in the U.S., for instance, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) say that the unvaccinated have a “9x higher” chance of being hospitalized than the vaccinated:


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(Source: CDC)

That being said, this rate is lower than it was during the Delta outbreak, and the CDC admitted just last week that hospitalizations among the vaccinated have in fact increased amid the current Omicron outbreak. But the CDC did also stress that the chance of a “serious” hospitalization still remains low.

“The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) analysis of a single hospital in Los Angeles found there were more hospitalizations during omicron compared to delta, but that among omicron-period patients, vaccination — particularly vaccination plus a booster dose — was associated with lower likelihood of admission to an intensive care unit,” according to The Hill.

“Among adults at least 65 years old hospitalized during omicron, vaccination was also associated with a lower likelihood of death while hospitalized.”

Some suspect that natural immunity may explain why the hospitalization rate among the vaccinated is beginning to level out with the hospitalization rate among the unvaccinated.

The longer that the coronavirus spreads among the population, the more unvaccinated people who contract it and develop immunity.

The CDC for its part finally began recognizing the legitimacy of natural immunity last month, when it published a paper that found that natural immunity offered “greater” protection than the vaccine “after the highly transmissible Delta variant became predominant, coinciding with early declining of vaccine-induced immunity.”

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Dovetailing back to Israel, what might explain the alleged phenomenon witnessed by Jerris? Some believe it could be the fact that an estimated 98.9 percent of the nation’s population has been vaccinated. And so in Israel, the vaccinated grossly outnumber the unvaccinated.

In the U.S., meanwhile, only 64.1 percent of the population was fully vaccinated as of Feb. 5th, according to the Mayo Clinic. Incidentally, as this rate has slowly ticked up over the past year, the hospitalization rate difference between the vaccinated and unvaccinated has declined. Coincidence or conspiracy?

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(Source: Mayo Clinic)
Note also that Jerris’ remarks didn’t include any mention of deaths.

“Israelis over 60 who are either unvaccinated or only partially vaccinated against COVID-19 died in significantly higher numbers last month compared to people in their age cohort who are fully vaccinated, according to official figures published by the Israeli Health Ministry,” Haaretz reported Sunday.

“These numbers highlight once again the stark contrast between the vaccinated and unvaccinated as Israel grapples with the fifth wave of a pandemic that has killed more than 9,000 people since March 2020.”

I was looking for this exact article, remembering i had seen it somewhere in the past few days, thank you BW for commenting. Now I would like to add a local article and let the comments continue. My opinion is that a lot of doctors have turned into real assclowns because of covid. Sorry for the language.


FDA approves 4th Pfizer COVID-19 vaccine to DHR Health

by: Jesse Mendez Posted: Feb 7, 2022 / 02:00 PM CST Updated: Feb 7, 2022 / 02:00 PM CST

EDINBURG, Texas (ValleyCentral) — DHR Health Institute for Research & Development announced the FDA has given them expanded access to offer a fourth dose of Pfizer COVID-19 mRNA vaccine.

A news release from DHR Health said their institute for research & development is the first and only entity in the United States that has received formal approval from the FDA to administer the fourth dose of this vaccine.

“Recent clinical studies in Israel and other European countries have provided scientific evidence that the fourth dose of Pfizer COVID-19 mRNA vaccine affords enhanced protection against the omicron variant,” said Sohail Rao, MD, MA, DPhil, President and CEO, DHR Health Institute for Research & Development.

DHR Health added to qualify for the fourth dose, you must be a healthcare worker, or above the age of 65 years, or have an immunocompromised status. The fourth dose can be administered 90 days after the third dose of the Pfizer COVID-19 mRNA vaccine.

For more information about the 4th dose call 956-362-2392 or 956-362-2387; or email dhrresearch@dhr-rgv.com; or fax with relevant patient information to 956-362-2383
 
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