I thought if I was double jabed and boosted I was safe.. Now there telling me I still need to take a test if I get a cold. This is bullshit I was supposed to be safe from Covid if I listened to the .GOV. They Lied to me!!!!! (Don't look up)
Yes it is... A real eye opener if you read between the lines..Don't Look Up is a good movie.
Yes it is... A real eye opener if you read between the lines..
Omg the gift that keeps giving.
We should also pull all cancer tests because they can't tell you if you have a strep throat.
The point is that the pcr was designed to detect covid, not influenza. It was never a multiplex test.
I don't think you understand the word differentiate.The covid pcr does not test for the flu. It cannot tell you if you have the flu or not. It only tells you of you have covid or not.
The flu test only tells you of you have the flu. It can't tell you if you have covid or not.
Neither can differentiate because the only test for one and not the other.
New pcr tests CAN test for both and DO differentiate.
No, it didn’t matter what order the test was given; flu tests were positive or negative for flue; Covid tests were positive or negative for CovidIf a testing center followed procedure, they tested for flu, then for COVID. That was how flu was ruled out when using the PCR test. From personal experience and from friends, not all testing centers tested for flu first. Testing centers did not get reimbursed for flu testing or the tests themselves, only for COVID. So there is a good chance that COVID positives from those centers could have been flu.
And one of the reasons why this test is going away.
Not based on the release information. The PCR test could not differentiate between flu and COVID, so flu was supposed to be ruled out. In the beginning it was. (One flu test ran me almost $200 oop, for the visit and test before they could test for COVID.) After the first few months, COVID tests were plentiful and free. Flu tests were not. So many centers stopped testing for flu.No, it didn’t matter what order the test was given; flu tests were positive or negative for flue; Covid tests were positive or negative for Covid
Not based on the release information. The PCR test could not differentiate between flu and COVID, so flu was supposed to be ruled out. In the beginning it was. (One flu test ran me almost $200 oop, for the visit and test before they could test for COVID.) After the first few months, COVID tests were plentiful and free. Flu tests were not. So many centers stopped testing for flu.
See original OP and track back to the CDC article.Quote and link to the supposed “release information” because that is not remotely accurate.
The original Covid PCR test detects the presence of a nucleic acid found only in the covid virus. It doesn’t detect flu, period.
Lol, yeah sure. It doesn’t say that. Never mind, it’s not worth discussing any longer.See original OP and track back to the CDC article.
Here is the link to the original CDC announcementSee original OP and track back to the CDC article.
In preparation for this change, CDC recommends clinical laboratories and testing sites that have been using the CDC 2019-nCoV RT-PCR assay select and begin their transition to another FDA-authorized COVID-19 test.
CDC encourages laboratories to consider adoption of a multiplexed method that can facilitate detection and differentiation of SARS-CoV-2 and influenza viruses.
Such assays can facilitate continued testing for both influenza and SARS-CoV-2 and can save both time and resources as we head into influenza season. Laboratories and testing sites should validate and verify their selected assay within their facility before beginning clinical testing.
Obviously what most people knew was wrong as this incorrect reporting resurfaces every few weeks.The CDC are just trying to cover their butts, the problem with what they are doing here will not fly as most of us knew this back in 2020 and doctors did not seem to care if someone had the flu and later died from the flu from the lack of proper care they labeled it covid-19 and got paid for it too.
Apparently it can't detect Covid either.Quote and link to the supposed “release information” because that is not remotely accurate.
The original Covid PCR test detects the presence of a nucleic acid found only in the covid virus. It doesn’t detect flu, period.
OK, everyone gets that, stick a fork in it. So why is the CDC still blathering on about the flu and the test? Why even get rid of the test? That would be like Pfizer getting rid of all their still EUA Biontech jabs and giving us the fully approved Comirnaty jabs. Why waste ALL those good tests and super jabs?The original Covid PCR test detects the presence of a nucleic acid found only in the covid virus. It doesn’t detect flu, period.
Please post your sources that say the CDC had an 85% false positive rate. Because I can't find it.The CDC came out with the 85% false positives figure and it was because of the number of cycles they ran the tests through.
The PCR test was not designed to test for the flu, I agree. The point is it could not differentiate between the flu and covid.
I guess we can just agree to disagree.
If a testing center followed procedure, they tested for flu, then for COVID. That was how flu was ruled out when using the PCR test. From personal experience and from friends, not all testing centers tested for flu first. Testing centers did not get reimbursed for flu testing or the tests themselves, only for COVID. So there is a good chance that COVID positives from those centers could have been flu.
And one of the reasons why this test is going away.
There are several new tests approved by the CDC. Some are multiplex, some are Covid-only. The labs get to choose which ones they will offer. There is not just one the CDC says you must use.The new test that the CDC is replacing the PCR test with does test for multiple viruses.
Please post your sources that say the CDC had an 85% false positive rate. Because I can't find it.
And also please post your sources that say PCR Test mix up Covid and Flu. Lots of posters have posted that it is impossible for that to happen.
So back to problems with kits giving false positives.
Found a reference that the very earliest of kits had problems
Report Says CDC’s First COVID Tests had Design Flaw
Again Buzzfeed
The Government Asked Us Not To Release Records From The CDC’s First Failed COVID Test. Here They Are.
Reported problems with early tests
It was when people were racing to get things done, when they were being overwhelmed by Covid Cases, right at the beginning of the Pandemic. The early kits had problems, and some of the reagents were allowed to mix prior to the test being used, and so gave false positives. Also people were not careful about cross contamination, and some test showed false positives as a result. But all of these problems were fixed early in 2020, which is right at the beginning of the Pandemic. Once people realised they had a problem, they fixed it straightaway.
Saying now that tests give lots of false positives, is a lie. Early days yes. Now No.
Tests now are more likely to give a false negative (say you do not have Covid when you do) than give a false positive (say you do have Covid when you don't).
Quote and link to the supposed “release information” because that is not remotely accurate.
The original Covid PCR test detects the presence of a nucleic acid found only in the covid virus. It doesn’t detect flu, period.
They gave them almost a year notice to use those tests and transition to approved kits. It's the exact same for comirnaty...use the eua approved vaccine and transition to fda approved comirnaty. It's not a hard concept.OK, everyone gets that, stick a fork in it. So why is the CDC still blathering on about the flu and the test? Why even get rid of the test? That would be like Pfizer getting rid of all their still EUA Biontech jabs and giving us the fully approved Comirnaty jabs. Why waste ALL those good tests and super jabs?
It's not one target only.Which one of the genetic markers that it tests for is found ONLY in covid-19?
For the DNC to regain power by any means necessary.the whole p(l)andemic was based on lies.
I am not going to go try to find references that have probably been deleted.
EXCEPT, as has been posted several times, and at least once in response to you, directly - legally, the EUA approved "vax" and the Comirnaty "vax" are NOT the same.It's the exact same for comirnaty...use the eua approved vaccine and transition to fda approved comirnaty.
Which one of the genetic markers that it tests for is found ONLY in covid-19?
"On December 16, 2021, having concluded that revising this EUA is appropriate to protect the public health or safety under Section 564(g)(2) of the Act, FDA is again reissuing the December 13, 2021 letter of authorization in its entirety with revisions incorporated to amend the EUA for COMIRNATY (COVID-19 Vaccine, mRNA) and Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine to clarify that the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine that uses Tris buffer and COMIRNATY (COVID-19 Vaccine, mRNA) that uses the Tris buffer have the same formulation and can be used interchangeably. "EXCEPT, as has been posted several times, and at least once in response to you, directly - legally, the EUA approved "vax" and the Comirnaty "vax" are NOT the same.
Willfully ignoring this most important and recent legal ruling undermines your credibility.
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"On December 16, 2021, having concluded that revising this EUA is appropriate to protect the public health or safety under Section 564(g)(2) of the Act, FDA is again reissuing the December 13, 2021 letter of authorization in its entirety with revisions incorporated to amend the EUA for COMIRNATY (COVID-19 Vaccine, mRNA) and Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine to clarify that the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine that uses Tris buffer and COMIRNATY (COVID-19 Vaccine, mRNA) that uses the Tris buffer have the same formulation and can be used interchangeably. "
Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine EUA LOA reissued December 16 2021 (fda.gov)
The Pandemic has only been around for almost two years. There are quite a lot of people who would be pleased if things they posted no longer existed after two years.
As far as I am concerned everything stays on the internet forever. It can take some work to find it, but it is usually there. The earliest sources I found on PCR testing are May 6th 2020. Maybe other stuff, but I have not found it.
Interpreting Diagnostic Tests for SARS-CoV-2
This Viewpoint discusses the 2 most common categories of testing to diagnose SARS-CoV-2—real-time PCR to identify viral RNA and serological diagnosis of IgG and IgM antibodies to assess immune response—and estimates time intervals for test positivity by specimen source to help clinicians...jamanetwork.com
As an aside, here is a story from "The Irish times" on Cattle dated 4th Jan 2020 Cattle return to Dublin’s suburbs
So if there is plenty more stuff out there from January 2020, why would your sources have disappeared?
BRKG - Federal Judge Rejects DOD Claim That Pfizer EUA and Comirnaty Vaccines Are ‘Interchangeable’
The DoD is now in violation of Nuremburg. Also, the judge said that the DoD should have known better after the Anthrax debacle of the 90's. 11/30/21 • COVID › VIEWS Federal Judge Rejects DOD Claim That Pfizer EUA and Comirnaty Vaccines Are ‘Interchangeable’ A federal district court judge...www.timebomb2000.com
I see that the word-weasels are hard at work.
WHICH government entity (judicial versus executive) has the final authority on this matter, at this time? <rhetorical>
Answer: Federal court (at the moment) trumps FDA authorization interpretation.
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BRKG - Federal Judge Rejects DOD Claim That Pfizer EUA and Comirnaty Vaccines Are ‘Interchangeable’
The DoD is now in violation of Nuremburg. Also, the judge said that the DoD should have known better after the Anthrax debacle of the 90's. 11/30/21 • COVID › VIEWS Federal Judge Rejects DOD Claim That Pfizer EUA and Comirnaty Vaccines Are ‘Interchangeable’ A federal district court judge...www.timebomb2000.com
I see that the word-weasels are hard at work.
WHICH government entity (judicial versus executive) has the final authority on this matter, at this time? <rhetorical>
Answer: Federal court (at the moment) trumps FDA authorization interpretation.
intothegoodnight
Nope. The older pcr does not test for the flu at all. It cannot give a positive covid pcr test. The pcr tests for 3 targets that are only found on covid. It is highly specific to that virus. Positive for flu cannot cause a positive covid test.
It is for this reason that people are ALSO tested for influenza.