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No it doesn’t on the first partMeh
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No it doesn’t on the first partMeh
Viagra causes 4 hour erections, injuries and serious death.
They have administered boosters now, but not at the time this newscast was originally broadcast.
We have gone through a couple waves of COVID, and the rate of symptomatic people has dropped with each wave.
Only 2 boosters then? Surely the 3rd will work, won't it??
Only 2 boosters then? Surely the 3rd will work, won't it??
Funny that, eh? :-)If The Science didn't tell us better, you'd think it was natural immunity or something.
Why do you ask me?Only 2 boosters then? Surely the 3rd will work, won't it??
I suspect a gap in the road or a bridge is involved here."Yump Ole, Yump! If you can't make it in one yump, yump twice!"
The Isarelis are murdering their people!!PRESS SECRETARY FOR ISRAELI PM: VACCINATED PEOPLE NOW DYING, AND GOING TO HOSPITAL VERY SICK
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If this government official is correct, we are looking at a self inflicted 2nd Holocaust.
The video lasts 15 minutes
sustainable immunisation programmes worldwide
.Now there's a phrase to warm the heart. Sounds like the harvesting of a renewable crop, huh?
People tend to forget that with a TRUE vaccine the immunity should not wear off in less than a year. It should last many, many years....but this Bioweapon shot is not a true Vaccine and so of course it only offers limited immunity. No surprise that the vaxxed are getting covid and other illnesses due to GETTING the shot. How many are dying FROM the shots now and they are not telling us about it?They are getting sick because of the shot......... Dress it up however you want to.
I find it very interesting that over the last three months or so there have been thousands of people, everywhere in the world, starting the process of dying, apparently from issues related to immune system problems. The "excess deaths in Britain," or the "sudden death," here in the USA. Thousands of people with the only KNOWN control factor being this so called "vaccine," which is really a Chinese BINARY BIO WEAPON that is acting PRECISELY like a binary bio weapon would act.
What is the common denominator of all of this the last few months? It is the jabs, the boosters yada yada yada
And here we have the press shill, Israel's equivalent of that bitch press secretary for biden, saying that the kill rate for both vaccinated, ie bio weapon, and the hospital rate is going UP. Gee, back in my medic days the idea was for vaccination to have FEWER people die, and fewer people get sent to the hospital.
We got till 2025, and here we are 30 plus days out from 2022 and the death rate for "cured" people is going up.
Old Archer, my personal opinion is binary bio weapons are unpredictable, mutating, viruses that are not easily handled. Everything I am seeing out of China, the Shanghai leak, the 20 million vanished cell phones, the wuhan chaos tells me the Chinese communists have LOST CONTROL of their virus. It is currently rampaging through China, unchecked, causing massive lockdowns that give it more time to mutate.
I firmly think that by 2025 this virus will have mutated into something that China has no idea of how to deal with. And that is something that has gotten lost in the chaff constantly: THIS F#%%^^^ VIRUS KEEPS MUTATING. China made it into a bio weapon, and that is what bio weapons do MUTATE into something nobody, especially not the incompetent Chinese can control.
[/QUOTE and I don't think the "booster " protects from the Delta does it? So if so, then it's worthless.
Good news for you, you'll get raises by defaultI have coworkers running to get every one offered...lol
Winner Winner Chicken Dinner ! kinda hard to duck and dodge those pesky NUMBERS ! Damn things are blowing up the optics.If a majority of a country is vaxxed, like Israel, then that's not true.
Won't be the first time just ask SorosThe Isarelis are murdering their people!!
Winner Winner Chicken Dinner ! kinda hard to duck and dodge those pesky NUMBERS ! Damn things are blowing up the optics.
Israeli doctors find severe COVID-19 breakthrough cases mostly in older, sicker patients
By Maayan Lubell
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A medical staff member attends to a patient suffering from the coronavirus disease (COVID-19), in a ward at Beilinson hospital in Petah Tikva, Israel August 18, 2021 REUTERS/ Ammar Awad
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JERUSALEM, Aug 20 (Reuters) - In Israel's COVID-19 wards, doctors are learning which vaccinated patients are most vulnerable to severe illness, amid growing concerns about instances in which the shots provide less protection against the worst forms of the disease.
Around half of the country's 600 patients presently hospitalized with severe illness have received two doses of the Pfizer Inc (PFE.N) shot, a rare occurrence out of 5.4 million fully vaccinated people.
The majority of these patients received two vaccine doses at least five months ago, are over the age of 60 and also have chronic illnesses known to exacerbate a coronavirus infection. They range from diabetes to heart disease and lung ailments, as well as cancers and inflammatory diseases that are treated with immune-system suppressing drugs, according to Reuters interviews with 11 doctors, health specialists and officials.
Such "breakthrough" cases have become central to a global debate over whether highly vaccinated countries should give booster doses of COVID-19 vaccines, and to which people.
Israel began offering booster doses to people age 60 and up in July, and has since expanded that eligibility.
The United States, citing data out of Israel and other findings, said on Wednesday it would make booster doses available to all Americans beginning in September.
Other countries, including France and Germany, have so far limited their booster plans to the elderly and people with weak immune systems.
"The vaccinated patients are older, unhealthy, often they were bedridden before infection, immobile and already requiring nursing care," said Noa Eliakim-Raz, head of the coronavirus ward at Rabin Medical Centre in Petach Tikva.
In contrast, "the unvaccinated COVID patients we see are young, healthy, working people and their condition deteriorates rapidly," she said. "Suddenly they're being put on oxygen or on a respirator."
Israel's Health Ministry raised new alarm this week with a report showing the effectiveness against severe disease of the Pfizer vaccine, developed with Germany's BioNTech, appeared to have dropped from more than 90% to 55% in people age 65 and up who received their second jab in January.
Disease experts say it is not clear how representative the figures are, but agree it is concerning given evidence that overall vaccine protection against infection is waning.
They cannot say whether that is due to the amount of time that has passed since inoculation, the ability of the highly contagious Delta variant to evade protection, the age and underlying health of the people vaccinated, or a combination of all of these factors.
Health officials in the UK and United States, two other nations with high vaccination rates and a spike in Delta infections, have reported similar trends. In the UK, about 35% of the people hospitalized with a Delta case in recent weeks had received two doses of a COVID-19 vaccine. Nearly three-quarters of U.S. breakthrough infections that led to hospitalization or death were among people age 65 or older, according to federal data.
U.S. officials said their booster plan is based on concern that over time, the vaccines will provide less protection against severe disease, including among younger adults.
"We are watching other countries carefully and (are) concerned that we too will see what Israel is seeing, which is worsening infections over time" among vaccinated people, U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention Director Rochelle Walensky said at a press conference on Wednesday.
The World Health Organization has repeatedly urged wealthy nations to refrain from providing boosters while much of the world has yet to access their first COVID vaccine doses.
IMMUNE RESPONSE
The Delta variant, first identified in India, has become the dominant version of the SARS-CoV-2 virus globally, accelerating a pandemic that has killed more than 4.4 million people.
In Israel, daily new cases have increased from the single digits in June to around 8,000 since the arrival of Delta. Approximately half of the cases - the majority of them mild to moderate - are in vaccinated people.
Those vaccinated first in Israel were at high-risk, including people age 60 and up. The immune response of some may have weakened by the time Delta hit Israel. But for others with underlying health conditions, the vaccine may have not kicked in at all.
"For some of them the vaccine did not trigger an immune response, they had no antibodies, because of the illness itself or because they are treated with medication that suppresses the immune system," said Dror Mevorach, who heads the coronavirus ward at Hadassah hospital in Jerusalem. He cited examples such as chronic lymphocytic leukemia and lymphoma.
Among 3 million vaccinated Israelis covered by Clalit, the country's largest healthcare provider, 600 have suffered severe breakthrough cases since June. Around 75% of them were above the age of 70 and were at least 5 months after their second dose, according to Ran Balicer, Clalit's chief innovation officer. Nearly all of them have chronic illnesses.
"We are hardly seeing young vaccinated people in severe condition," said Balicer.
In the UK, doctors described similar characteristics among vaccinated patients who fall severely ill.
"In those people who come in, because of their age, because of their co-morbidities, they might be people that you would expect that the vaccine is not quite so efficacious as other age groups," said Tom Wingfield, a clinical lecturer at the Liverpool School of Tropical Medicine.
A new surge in U.S. coronavirus cases and deaths has been fueled by Delta, particularly in states where vaccination rates remain low. Among vaccinated patients who become infected, there is evidence of older people being hit harder.
In Texas, 92% of the vaccine breakthrough cases that resulted in death were in people over the age of 60 and 75% had a known underlying condition that put them at high risk from COVID-19, according to a public health department spokesperson.
Initial data in Israel suggests the booster shots administered in the last few weeks are reducing the risk of infection in older people compared with those who have received only two doses. read more .
Even without boosters, Israeli doctors say that vaccinated patients tend to recover more quickly.
"The vaccinated patients I've treated usually left the ICU in about three days. The unvaccinated patients took a week or two until they stabilized," said Yael Haviv-Yadid, head of the critical care ward at Sheba Medical Centre near Tel Aviv.
Even if the vaccine did not stop them getting ill, it may have mitigated their illness, said Alex Rozov, head of the coronavirus ward at Barzilai Medical Centre in Ashkelon.
"Our cautious impression is that the vaccinated patients suffer an easier course of illness - the treatment is more effective among those who have antibodies."
Israeli doctors find severe COVID-19 breakthrough cases mostly in older, sicker patients
In Israel's COVID-19 wards, doctors are learning which vaccinated patients are most vulnerable to severe illness, amid growing concerns about instances in which the shots provide less protection against the worst forms of the disease.www.reuters.com
I no
I wait too. My daughter in Denver and her young kids, but they all have O blood so maybe they are safe. You're right, this all IS grim.
Did you mean safe from covid cuz they got the shot? Or safe from vaccine side effects? Not sure what you meant. Type O blood is supposed to be more resistant to covid, but won't help with the dangerous side effects from the vaccine.
but they're not, and if my uncle had tits he'd be my aunt, facts not theoriesSorry, you flunk Set Theory 101. Even if a majority of the country is vaxxed, a majority of the sick can be the unvaxxed.
So did this little boy get a heart attack from the covid vaccine? Notice his crooked mouth. Looks like he got Bells Palsy from the shot too. And he will never be able to eat all that food. He will probably be infertile now too. No grandkids for the parents!!
but they're not, and if my uncle had tits he'd be my aunt, facts not theories
look Joe Biden told me that if I got the vaccine, I wouldn't get the virus, sadly this hasn't been the case. Lucy for me common sense told me to do exactly the opposite of what Sleepy joe requested, I have a hard hard time understanding why people want to put an untested substance into their bodies based on promises from a bunch of communist sheisters who are enriching themselves off of this "pandemic". Don't forget Kamala said she would never take that "Trump" poison, its amazing how you're opinions can change when you're getting payola.The ratio of who's jabbed/unjabbed among the sick does not come from the ratio of jabbiness in the population.
I think what you're referring to is the first dose which is Binding Anti-bodies. Do Binding Anti-bodies make you Covid fly paper without the Neutralizing Anti-bodies? That's for another board member with a better understanding to answer.I have heard there is a period of suspectibility for a while after the jab, where you can easily catch covid? Is there also something about the spikes actually giving you covid or something that presents like covid? And then there are all the cardiac and neurological effects and misc. crap we see videos of?
That's terrible, to exploit a kid, Facebook is a den of liberal snakes, hell all of social media is...Perfect. And typical.
He didn't have a heart attack, he had a stroke.
It happened 3 years ago, way before any vaccine or even COVID in the first place.
If only he had taken ivermectin, that wouldn't have happened.
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After first vaccine and until you make antibodies you are just as vulnerable to infection as an unvaccinated person. About 8-10 days. 21 days you rechallenge with second dose to get neutralizing antibodies.I think what you're referring to is the first dose which is Binding Anti-bodies. Do Binding Anti-bodies make you Covid fly paper without the Neutralizing Anti-bodies? That's for another board member with a better understanding to answer.
or maybe Bruce Jennerbut they're not, and if my uncle had tits he'd be my aunt, facts not theories
Wait I thought it was Kaitlynor maybe Bruce Jenner
Only 2 boosters then? Surely the 3rd will work, won't it??
They'll just take the headline for granite.
Georgia?Like it's carved in stone, huh?