HEALTH Israel's PM Press Secretary says VACCINATED PEOPLE ARE DYING AND GOING TO THE HOSPITAL SICK

Doomer Doug

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Krayola

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I'm not sure what the big deal is here. The Israeli's jabbed their people earlier than anyone else did. Whatever protection the shot may have offered is wearing off now. So of course, they are now susceptible to the virus just as easily as an unvax'd person, thus you see many people, some who got their shots almost a year ago, who are not getting any protection from the shot so they are getting sick. This should not be surprising.

Now if they get the jab and then right after that, start dropping from covid during that temporary period when the shot is supposedly offering some protection, then that would be news. Or if people have entered this phase of waning protection from the jab and they start dropping like flies while the unvax'd remain relatively unscathed in comparison, then that would be news.

Someone tell me what I'm missing here. (?) It just sounds like the shot wore off and they're getting sick just like people who never get the shot get sick.
 

Sicario

The Executor
I still believe the "vaccine" system is a binary bioweapon. You get the vax (component 1), then a subsequent "booster" (component 2) interacts with (component 1) and completes the weapon resulting in death. Neither component is inherently deadly, but when combined...BOOM! And who knows which "booster" will be the activating component? :shr:
 

Ractivist

Pride comes before the fall.....Pride month ended.
I still believe the "vaccine" system is a binary bioweapon. You get the vax (component 1), then a subsequent "booster" (component 2) interacts with (component 1) and completes the weapon resulting in death. Neither component is inherently deadly, but when combined...BOOM! :shr:
And or cumulative....more and more of the bad stuff...till it eventually guarantees the outcome.
 

KFhunter

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I was trying to verify this story and came across this


Israel's vaccine committee endorses COVID jabs for children 5-11, boosters for teens
Health Ministry committee recommends COVID vaccine for children 5-11 and offering booster shots to kids 12-15.

The Israeli Health Ministry’s vaccine committee on Sunday endorsed expanding the country’s COVID vaccine program to include children ages five to eleven.

The committee hearing Sunday night including Prime Minister Naftali Bennett and senior Health Ministry officials, with Ministry representatives recommending that the coronavirus vaccine be made available to children 5-11, with a three-week waiting period in between the first and second shot.

In addition, the committee recommended Sunday evening that the booster shot campaign be expanded to include children ages 12 to 15. The committee conditioned its support for booster shots for children in that age cohort on the issuing of a required waiting period of at least five months from the second shot until the booster shot.



The decision comes amid a slow but sustained rise in the infection rate in Israel, with the R infection coefficient rising above 1.0 last week for the first time in months, indicating a net increase in the total number of cases.

The percentage of tests coming back positive also ticked upwards over the weekend, following a months-long decline, rising to 0.82% Saturday, up from 0.65% Friday.

The number of seriously ill patients also inched up Sunday, rising to 135 from 130 on Saturday.
 
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Doomer Doug

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I find it very interesting that over the last three months or so there have been thousands of people, everywhere in the world, starting the process of dying, apparently from issues related to immune system problems. The "excess deaths in Britain," or the "sudden death," here in the USA. Thousands of people with the only KNOWN control factor being this so called "vaccine," which is really a Chinese BINARY BIO WEAPON that is acting PRECISELY like a binary bio weapon would act.

What is the common denominator of all of this the last few months? It is the jabs, the boosters yada yada yada

And here we have the press shill, Israel's equivalent of that bitch press secretary for biden, saying that the kill rate for both vaccinated, ie bio weapon, and the hospital rate is going UP. Gee, back in my medic days the idea was for vaccination to have FEWER people die, and fewer people get sent to the hospital.

We got till 2025, and here we are 30 plus days out from 2022 and the death rate for "cured" people is going up.

Old Archer, my personal opinion is binary bio weapons are unpredictable, mutating, viruses that are not easily handled. Everything I am seeing out of China, the Shanghai leak, the 20 million vanished cell phones, the wuhan chaos tells me the Chinese communists have LOST CONTROL of their virus. It is currently rampaging through China, unchecked, causing massive lockdowns that give it more time to mutate.

I firmly think that by 2025 this virus will have mutated into something that China has no idea of how to deal with. And that is something that has gotten lost in the chaff constantly: THIS F#%%^^^ VIRUS KEEPS MUTATING. China made it into a bio weapon, and that is what bio weapons do MUTATE into something nobody, especially not the incompetent Chinese can control.
 

workhorse

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I still believe the "vaccine" system is a binary bioweapon. You get the vax (component 1), then a subsequent "booster" (component 2) interacts with (component 1) and completes the weapon resulting in death. Neither component is inherently deadly, but when combined...BOOM! And who knows which "booster" will be the activating component? :shr:
Sorta like tanarite for the human body.
 

Dozdoats

On TB every waking moment
This is a perfect binary weapon. There’s no way I know exactly what that mRNA is programmed to and neither do you and neither do most doctors. The doctors can’t get at that data. That’s for the guys at the very top of this project… If I were China and I wanted to take down our military, I’d just make an mRNA that I know it doesn’t exist in nature so nobody’s going to die from a vaccine and then two years later I release whatever it is that I made… and it causes this immune enhancement death.” ~Dr. Lee Merritt
-- Respected Doctor and Bioweapons Researcher Believes Covid Vaccines Are a Form of ‘Weaponized Medicine’ (phillipschneider.com) FEBRUARY 4, 2021
 

Babs

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I'm not sure what the big deal is here. The Israeli's jabbed their people earlier than anyone else did. Whatever protection the shot may have offered is wearing off now. So of course, they are now susceptible to the virus just as easily as an unvax'd person, thus you see many people, some who got their shots almost a year ago, who are not getting any protection from the shot so they are getting sick. This should not be surprising.

Now if they get the jab and then right after that, start dropping from covid during that temporary period when the shot is supposedly offering some protection, then that would be news. Or if people have entered this phase of waning protection from the jab and they start dropping like flies while the unvax'd remain relatively unscathed in comparison, then that would be news.

Someone tell me what I'm missing here. (?) It just sounds like the shot wore off and they're getting sick just like people who never get the shot get sick.

They are on their 3rd and 4th booster!
 

Babs

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If this government official is correct, we are looking at a self inflicted 2nd Holocaust.
The video lasts 15 minutes

Facebook will not allow me to post that link, nor can I private message it to anyone!
 

China Connection

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We had the state leader here in Western Australia saying that hospitals were overflowing yet not one had Covid, just the Jab.
The Jab seems to offer some help for 4 months to those that actually get Covid. However you body is left permanently stuffed. Only fools take the jab or those in terrible job locations.
 

China Connection

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Israeli doctors find severe COVID-19 breakthrough cases mostly in older, sicker patients
By Maayan Lubell

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Holocaust survivor Yehuda Widawski, 102, receives his third dose of a coronavirus disease (COVID-19) vaccine at Sourasky Medical Center (Ichilov Hospital) in Tel Aviv, Israel August 1, 2021.   REUTERS/Nir Elias/File Photo

A medical staff member attends to a patient suffering from the coronavirus disease (COVID-19), in a ward at Beilinson hospital in Petah Tikva, Israel August 18, 2021 REUTERS/ Ammar Awad

A medical staff member attends a patient suffering from the coronavirus disease (COVID-19), in a ward at Beilinson hospital in Petah Tikva, Israel August 18, 2021.   REUTERS/Ammar Awad/File Photo



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A medical staff member attends to a patient suffering from the coronavirus disease (COVID-19), in a ward at Beilinson hospital in Petah Tikva, Israel August 18, 2021 REUTERS/ Ammar Awad

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JERUSALEM, Aug 20 (Reuters) - In Israel's COVID-19 wards, doctors are learning which vaccinated patients are most vulnerable to severe illness, amid growing concerns about instances in which the shots provide less protection against the worst forms of the disease.
Around half of the country's 600 patients presently hospitalized with severe illness have received two doses of the Pfizer Inc (PFE.N) shot, a rare occurrence out of 5.4 million fully vaccinated people.

The majority of these patients received two vaccine doses at least five months ago, are over the age of 60 and also have chronic illnesses known to exacerbate a coronavirus infection. They range from diabetes to heart disease and lung ailments, as well as cancers and inflammatory diseases that are treated with immune-system suppressing drugs, according to Reuters interviews with 11 doctors, health specialists and officials.
Such "breakthrough" cases have become central to a global debate over whether highly vaccinated countries should give booster doses of COVID-19 vaccines, and to which people.

Israel began offering booster doses to people age 60 and up in July, and has since expanded that eligibility.
The United States, citing data out of Israel and other findings, said on Wednesday it would make booster doses available to all Americans beginning in September.

Other countries, including France and Germany, have so far limited their booster plans to the elderly and people with weak immune systems.
"The vaccinated patients are older, unhealthy, often they were bedridden before infection, immobile and already requiring nursing care," said Noa Eliakim-Raz, head of the coronavirus ward at Rabin Medical Centre in Petach Tikva.
In contrast, "the unvaccinated COVID patients we see are young, healthy, working people and their condition deteriorates rapidly," she said. "Suddenly they're being put on oxygen or on a respirator."
Israel's Health Ministry raised new alarm this week with a report showing the effectiveness against severe disease of the Pfizer vaccine, developed with Germany's BioNTech, appeared to have dropped from more than 90% to 55% in people age 65 and up who received their second jab in January.
Disease experts say it is not clear how representative the figures are, but agree it is concerning given evidence that overall vaccine protection against infection is waning.
They cannot say whether that is due to the amount of time that has passed since inoculation, the ability of the highly contagious Delta variant to evade protection, the age and underlying health of the people vaccinated, or a combination of all of these factors.
Health officials in the UK and United States, two other nations with high vaccination rates and a spike in Delta infections, have reported similar trends. In the UK, about 35% of the people hospitalized with a Delta case in recent weeks had received two doses of a COVID-19 vaccine. Nearly three-quarters of U.S. breakthrough infections that led to hospitalization or death were among people age 65 or older, according to federal data.
U.S. officials said their booster plan is based on concern that over time, the vaccines will provide less protection against severe disease, including among younger adults.
"We are watching other countries carefully and (are) concerned that we too will see what Israel is seeing, which is worsening infections over time" among vaccinated people, U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention Director Rochelle Walensky said at a press conference on Wednesday.
The World Health Organization has repeatedly urged wealthy nations to refrain from providing boosters while much of the world has yet to access their first COVID vaccine doses.
IMMUNE RESPONSE
The Delta variant, first identified in India, has become the dominant version of the SARS-CoV-2 virus globally, accelerating a pandemic that has killed more than 4.4 million people.
In Israel, daily new cases have increased from the single digits in June to around 8,000 since the arrival of Delta. Approximately half of the cases - the majority of them mild to moderate - are in vaccinated people.
Those vaccinated first in Israel were at high-risk, including people age 60 and up. The immune response of some may have weakened by the time Delta hit Israel. But for others with underlying health conditions, the vaccine may have not kicked in at all.
"For some of them the vaccine did not trigger an immune response, they had no antibodies, because of the illness itself or because they are treated with medication that suppresses the immune system," said Dror Mevorach, who heads the coronavirus ward at Hadassah hospital in Jerusalem. He cited examples such as chronic lymphocytic leukemia and lymphoma.
Among 3 million vaccinated Israelis covered by Clalit, the country's largest healthcare provider, 600 have suffered severe breakthrough cases since June. Around 75% of them were above the age of 70 and were at least 5 months after their second dose, according to Ran Balicer, Clalit's chief innovation officer. Nearly all of them have chronic illnesses.
"We are hardly seeing young vaccinated people in severe condition," said Balicer.
In the UK, doctors described similar characteristics among vaccinated patients who fall severely ill.
"In those people who come in, because of their age, because of their co-morbidities, they might be people that you would expect that the vaccine is not quite so efficacious as other age groups," said Tom Wingfield, a clinical lecturer at the Liverpool School of Tropical Medicine.
A new surge in U.S. coronavirus cases and deaths has been fueled by Delta, particularly in states where vaccination rates remain low. Among vaccinated patients who become infected, there is evidence of older people being hit harder.
In Texas, 92% of the vaccine breakthrough cases that resulted in death were in people over the age of 60 and 75% had a known underlying condition that put them at high risk from COVID-19, according to a public health department spokesperson.
Initial data in Israel suggests the booster shots administered in the last few weeks are reducing the risk of infection in older people compared with those who have received only two doses. read more .
Even without boosters, Israeli doctors say that vaccinated patients tend to recover more quickly.
"The vaccinated patients I've treated usually left the ICU in about three days. The unvaccinated patients took a week or two until they stabilized," said Yael Haviv-Yadid, head of the critical care ward at Sheba Medical Centre near Tel Aviv.
Even if the vaccine did not stop them getting ill, it may have mitigated their illness, said Alex Rozov, head of the coronavirus ward at Barzilai Medical Centre in Ashkelon.
"Our cautious impression is that the vaccinated patients suffer an easier course of illness - the treatment is more effective among those who have antibodies."



 
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