CORONA Biden plan for forced vaccinations doesn't include illegal immigrants

Kathy in FL

Kathy in FL

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Biden plan for forced vaccinations doesn't include illegal immigrants
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President Biden announced a sweeping plan that could force millions of unvaccinated Americans to get the COVID-19 shot but left out mandating the vaccine for illegal immigrants crossing the border.


Biden announced Thursday that all employers with more than 100 employees will be forced to either require their employees get vaccinated against COVID-19 or mandate weekly testing for the virus.

The president also announced that the remaining 17 million healthcare workers employed in facilities that receive federal Medicare or Medicaid also will have to be fully vaccinated. Together, the two groups represent about 100 million Americans.

"We've been patient, but our patience is wearing thin," Biden said of the roughly 80 million Americans who have yet to get the shot. "While America is in much better shape than it was seven months ago when I took office, I need to tell you a second fact: We're in a tough stretch and it could last for awhile."

But Biden stopped short of mandating the vaccine for illegal immigrants attempting to cross America's border, even though about 30% of immigrants held at federal detention facilities are refusing to be vaccinated — and they have the option to refuse

Meanwhile, more than 18% of migrant families who recently crossed the border tested positive for COVID before being released by Border Patrol. Another 20% of unaccompanied minors tested positive for the virus.

Biden's new rules for employers with over 100 employees will be issued through the Labor Department, the president said. The president also threatened hefty fines for employers that fail to comply with the mandate.

"We have the tools to combat the virus if we come together to use those tools," Biden said.

 
Nowski

Nowski

Let's Go Brandon!
Kathy in FL said:
President Biden announced a sweeping plan that could force millions of unvaccinated Americans to get the COVID-19 shot but left out mandating the vaccine for illegal immigrants crossing the border.
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Dozdoats said:
Of course not. They are the replacement population - don't want to kill THEM off .....
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Dozdoats got his reply in, as I was typing my post.

Its because the illegals, are the replacements for all of the Whites,
that are going to die either directly from COVID-19 or the jabs.

The vast majority of Africans are not taking the jabs,
and there are not enough Asians to make a difference.

Imagine how it will be this time next year.

Please be safe everyone.

Regards to all.

Nowski
 
NoDandy

NoDandy

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Nowski said:
Dozdoats got his reply in, as I was typing my post.

Its because the illegals, are the replacements for all of the Whites,
that are going to die either directly from COVID-19 or the jabs.

The vast majority of Africans are not taking the jabs,
and there are not enough Asians to make a difference.

Imagine how it will be this time next year.

Please be safe everyone.

Regards to all.

Nowski
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Or die from resisting the jab !!!

:mad: :mad: :mad:
 
Elza

Elza

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chumly2071 said:
So again, if there are carve outs for the USPS, and illegals, and surely other groups, then if under the guise of safety, how can this survive a court challenge (which admittedly means didley while it traverses the courts)?!?!?
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It won't mean anything after. They'll just continue to do whatever the hell they want to. They're doing it now and getting away with it. Why would anything change?
 
chumly2071

chumly2071

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Also just saw an article stating the congress and their staff are also exempt from this mandate BS... Rules for thee, but not for me...
It needs to be for everybody (except those actually precluded by medical reasons), or by choice. This crap with carve outs for the big players is complete BS. And to quote the man himself, "We're losing patience".
 
John Green

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The illegals should be fine since they are getting ivermectin that should be going to our fellow Americans. No need for the jab.
 
et2

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Many here can do math quite well. Just say ( just a number) 100,000 illegals have Covid and give it to 5 people. That’s now 500,000 additional infected in a matter of days. Then those 500,000 infect 5 more = 2,500,000 … and again … 12,500,000 in less than a month.

As you can see how valuable the illegal aliens are keeping this farce going.

Don’t trust Biden … trust simple math. Numb nuts has his priorities wrong.
 
artichoke

artichoke

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et2 said:
Many here can do math quite well. Just say ( just a number) 100,000 illegals have Covid and give it to 5 people. That’s now 500,000 additional infected in a matter of days. Then those 500,000 infect 5 more = 2,500,000 … and again … 12,500,000 in less than a month.

As you can see how valuable the illegal aliens are keeping this farce going.

Don’t trust Biden … trust simple math. Numb nuts has his priorities wrong.
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Correct, the illegals are spreaders. If he made them vax, they might leave instead. Unlike us, they have somewhere else they can go. But Biden wants them here.

And the vaxed Americans are superspreaders, being able to carry around high viral loads without showing a lot of symptoms. (Biden was accurate about this last night. He didn't claim the vax gave any other kind of protection.)

Biden is creating chaos where if you're unvaxed and don't have ivermectin or some other way to protect yourself, you'll be at serious risk.

Biden also seemed to promise us another pandemic. Which is as good a reason as I can imagine NOT to vax.
 
Warthog

Warthog

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It doesn't include illegals because most American's, if not all are slated for death by vaccine. The illegals are going to be our fill ins until they're done with them.
 
W

Wiley

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There's a simple solution to all this: Everyone get FAKE vaccination cards, problem solved and the pharmaceutical companies will be left with millions of unused vaccines that they will have to eat the bill on and explain to the government.
 
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Dozdoats

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The Unvaccinated will be Punished - by Techno Fog - The Reactionary (substack.com)

The Unvaccinated will be Punished
And the problems with the Biden OSHA standards
Techno Fog
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Today, President Biden announced the federal government would protect the vaccinated from the unvaccinated.
Twitter avatar for @CBSNews CBS News @CBSNews
BREAKING: Biden says Labor Dept. is developing emergency rule requiring all employers with 100 or more employees to ensure workers are fully vaccinated or show a negative COVID test at least once a week "We're going to protect vaccinated workers from unvaccinated coworkers"
September 9th 2021
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It is official: the unvaccinated have become the scapegoats.
As we said in August, “trust them at their word when they advocate restricting your rights and inflicting punishment if you remain unvaccinated.”

This is the result (but not the end-result) of a creeping nastiness towards the unvaccinated that we warned about last month, after the NYC required a vaccine to “participate in society fully” and The Atlantic said the unvaccinated “belong on the no-fly list.”
Others contributed and pushed things further. The call by the New York Times’ Ezra Klein to start “raising the costs of remaining vaccinated.” Dr. Fauci said the government needed to “do something to get them to be vaccinated.”

Biden listened. He is mandating that larger employers mandate vaccines or undergo weekly testing or be fined up to $14,000 per violation. As the AP reports:
The requirement for large companies to mandate vaccinations or weekly testing for employees will be enacted through a forthcoming rule from the Occupational Safety and Health Administration [OSHA] that carries penalties of $14,000 per violation, an administration official said. The White House did not immediately say when it would take effect, but said workers would have sufficient time to get vaccinated.

This coincides with Biden mandating federal employees and contractors get the vaccine. All except USPS, whose workers somehow escaped this mandate.
Twitter avatar for @jacobbogage Jacob Bogage @jacobbogage
NEWS: White House official tells me USPS workers are NOT included in President Biden’s vaccine requirement, but “we strongly encourage them to comply with these standards.” That’s a massive chunk of the federal workforce — 644k & growing — that’s not required to be vaccinated.
Jacob Bogage @jacobbogage
Hard to imagine now that USPS will be left out of vax mandates. If the federal workforce will have one + new sweeping mandates for mid-size to large businesses, how could USPS be exempt. I still have not received a response from the White House. https://t.co/DUffKjUgO9
September 9th 2021
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I would guess the USPS union donations (which are almost all to Democrats) and their endorsement of Biden in 2020 might have something to do with this exemption.



Anyway, the Biden Administration will attempt to implement the employer vaccine mandate and punishments through an Emergency Temporary Standard (ETS). Think of this as a temporary measure that allows the agency to bypass normal rulemaking and regulatory procedures. The ETS is governed by 29 USC 655, which states:


Look closely at part (A), which requires the Secretary of Labor to determine that “employees are exposed to grave danger from exposure to substances or agents determined to be toxic or physically harmful or from new hazards.”
How has OSHA determined ALL large employers are exposing their employees to “grave danger”?
Here’s the answer: they haven’t. And they don’t think they have to.

In using the ETS – which are temporary - the Biden Administration is bypassing statutory and caselaw requirements that govern permanent health and safety standards. Think of that for a moment: that they wish to use temporary regulations to mandate permanent vaccines.

If this were permanent, OSHA would have to make “a threshold finding that a place of employment is unsafe—in the sense that significant risks are present and can be eliminated or lessened by a change in practices.”

This legal maneuvering, which lessens OSHA’s evidentiary and fact-finding burdens, should be no surprise. OSHA (like Biden himself) has a long history of unlawfulness and of ignoring its own regulations. Most recently, the agency is refusing to enforce its own rules requiring employers who mandate vaccinations from recording the side effects.


If there is any good news with all of this, it is that the proposed vaccine mandate will likely be found to be unconstitutional and/or unlawful and will be stayed from taking effect pending judicial review.

The challenges will include that OSHA and the Secretary of Labor exceeded their authority; that OSHA regulations generally don’t allow for vaccine mandates; that the current conditions do not warrant the issuance of the ETS (no grave danger); and that the proposed regulations are otherwise arbitrary and capricious.
We also observe that while this is a mandate that applies to large businesses, it is really a mandate that applies to employees of large businesses. Perhaps there will be an equal protection issue given the mandate depends on how large your employer might be.

We’ll be providing updates on arguments concerning the constitutionality and legal challenges as this issue develops. In the meantime, we’ve already filed a FOIA request to the Secretary of Labor.
 
vector7

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Dozdoats

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Wait the the Demoncrats start passing out rifles (brought back courtesy of the Talleybon) to the illegals. Maybe then some of the boobus americansis will figger out what has been going on.
 
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