Lilbitsnana
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The "West" knows who and a pretty good idea of 'what/how".
If they go after the Taliban, it will be for things the Taliban did, not AQ/ISIS-k.
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The "West" knows who and a pretty good idea of 'what/how".
If they go after the Taliban, it will be for things the Taliban did, not AQ/ISIS-k.
vector7
Dot Collector
JUST IN - Taliban appoints former Guantanamo detainee Abdul Qayyum Zakir as acting defense minister of the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan (Al Jazeera)
Thanks, Obama.
KABUL — They were among the Taliban’s most influential commanders — five men whom the United States succeeded in removing from the battlefield.
But on Saturday, they were released from the military prison in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, in exchange for Army Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl — a deeply controversial decision that raised concerns in Kabul and Washington even as Bergdahl’s homecoming was celebrated.
One of the freed men was the head of the Taliban’s army. Another arranged for al-Qaeda trainers to visit Afghanistan. Another has been implicated by the United Nations for killing thousands of Shiite Muslims.
Although the five men have each been in prison for at least a decade, many believe they still have significant influence within the Taliban because of their contributions during the group’s formative years. The last time a high-level Taliban official was released from Guantanamo, in 2007, the detainee, Mullah Abdul Qayyum Zakir, returned to Afghanistan and took the reins as the organization’s director of military operations.
Like Zakir, the five detainees released Saturday and handed to the Qatari government had formal government jobs when the Taliban ruled Afghanistan from 1996 until 2001. They will remain in Qatar for a year. Beyond that, it remains unclear whether they will be able to move to Pakistan or Afghanistan.
A Taliban statement on Saturday announced the release “with great happiness” and said the men would live with their families in Qatar.
The releases come at a pivotal moment in the Afghan war. The United States is concluding its combat mission, and the Afghan army is preparing to take on a powerful insurgency with far less assistance from the American military. The Taliban vowed as recently as last week that “jihad is incumbent and our nation will continue its righteous jihad.”
If they are permitted to return to Pakistan or Afghanistan, the five former detainees will likely play a crucial role in the Taliban’s next act.
View: https://twitter.com/covertress/status/1430223890215809024?s=20
Thanks, Obama.
KABUL — They were among the Taliban’s most influential commanders — five men whom the United States succeeded in removing from the battlefield.
But on Saturday, they were released from the military prison in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, in exchange for Army Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl — a deeply controversial decision that raised concerns in Kabul and Washington even as Bergdahl’s homecoming was celebrated.
One of the freed men was the head of the Taliban’s army. Another arranged for al-Qaeda trainers to visit Afghanistan. Another has been implicated by the United Nations for killing thousands of Shiite Muslims.
Although the five men have each been in prison for at least a decade, many believe they still have significant influence within the Taliban because of their contributions during the group’s formative years. The last time a high-level Taliban official was released from Guantanamo, in 2007, the detainee, Mullah Abdul Qayyum Zakir, returned to Afghanistan and took the reins as the organization’s director of military operations.
Like Zakir, the five detainees released Saturday and handed to the Qatari government had formal government jobs when the Taliban ruled Afghanistan from 1996 until 2001. They will remain in Qatar for a year. Beyond that, it remains unclear whether they will be able to move to Pakistan or Afghanistan.
A Taliban statement on Saturday announced the release “with great happiness” and said the men would live with their families in Qatar.
The releases come at a pivotal moment in the Afghan war. The United States is concluding its combat mission, and the Afghan army is preparing to take on a powerful insurgency with far less assistance from the American military. The Taliban vowed as recently as last week that “jihad is incumbent and our nation will continue its righteous jihad.”
If they are permitted to return to Pakistan or Afghanistan, the five former detainees will likely play a crucial role in the Taliban’s next act.
View: https://twitter.com/covertress/status/1430223890215809024?s=20
packyderms_wife
Neither here nor there.
So I'm watching my local news over the lunch hour, and they're showing the taliban riding around in toyota pick up trucks that look relatively new and I get to wondering if they have those little black boxes in them like they do here in the states.
If so then what's stopping our people from permanently shutting off those trucks? Listening to the male reporter that's talking up how great the taliban is with it's inclusiveness, etc., it would seem that most of their current power is based upon access to these trucks.
And this makes me wonder about the choppers, aircraft, and missiles, being left behind. How many of those have chips and how can they also be disabled from afar?
If so then what's stopping our people from permanently shutting off those trucks? Listening to the male reporter that's talking up how great the taliban is with it's inclusiveness, etc., it would seem that most of their current power is based upon access to these trucks.
And this makes me wonder about the choppers, aircraft, and missiles, being left behind. How many of those have chips and how can they also be disabled from afar?
Mprepared
Veteran Member
I am not sure who could turn the stuff off, but why would they? I believe these are gifts to them for some purpose that is going to happen that we have no idea yet. No reason all this equipment is in their hands.
I read something years ago about US contractors pulling certain chips/modules out of Iranian F-14s when they left in 79. Took the Iranians a long time to get a work around.
She has all the gravitas and authentic seriousness of a 19 year old sorority girl at a major party College.
Summerthyme
The Hammer
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Does AQ/ISIS operate with the Taliban’s blessing and support nowadays?
Cacheman
Ultra MAGA!
Sounds like it and Pakistan probably sent them
packyderms_wife
Neither here nor there.
If genital warts had a face, this would be it!
Vulture45-70
Veteran Member
All planes, equip, radios, NVG and other sensitive equip will be turned over to China to reverse engineer there on leaving the ZUSA with no security or secrets. We're SO Fu---ked
The Hammer
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Started new thread for the presser...
www.timebomb2000.com
GOV/MIL - Biden Presser 8/24
It's been on again off again, now on again. Per Fox, the pool hasn't gathered yet.
Funny watching the MSM saying "any minute now" so viewers don't wander away.
Lilbitsnana
On TB every waking moment
Taliban wants US out. They want control of the country; for now, they won't jeopardize it.
Pretty sure they are the ones that gave the US the heads up on the threat.
Now, if US does not get out by deadline, Taliban would probably welcome the help for a while.
I think there is turmoil behind the scenes?
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DOD press briefing at 3pm has been postponed to "future date"
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DOD press briefing at 3pm has been postponed to "future date"
The Hammer
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Hmmm. Not good. Doesn't sound like that's happening today.
OSINTtechnical
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DOD briefing that was scheduled for this afternoon has been postponed to a “future date”
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Carla Babb
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DOD press briefing at 3pm has been postponed to "future date"
Maybe that means no Biden presser. Or that it will be late and DOD won't have time to figure out what Biden said so it can get on the same page...
Lilbitsnana
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missed it if this has already been posted..
Murad Gazdiev
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The Taliban has seized a vast amount of weapons, including hundreds of MANPADS (shoulder-launched anti-aircraft missiles) - Russian Defense Minister
Murad Gazdiev
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The Taliban has seized a vast amount of weapons, including hundreds of MANPADS (shoulder-launched anti-aircraft missiles) - Russian Defense Minister
Donna_in_OK
Veteran Member
If one of our subs has an accident, then I fear you will be correct.
thompson
Certa Bonum Certamen
Well, she's had a lot of experience with partying over the years. Didja see the pic of her slutting around with Montel Williams back in the day?
She doesn't know any other way.
Donna_in_OK
Veteran Member
Send the love, and it will be felt. The piece that is missing might be a bit busy and unable to send back, but I am sure will feel it. Think of only good things, pure love and strength while thinking about that piece of your heart.
The Hammer
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We are running out of descriptors for this clown show...
bw
Fringe Ranger
If you find yourself running short of scurrilous adjectives, just put out a call for help. We got a deep bench here.
Lilbitsnana
On TB every waking moment
US military has started withdrawing from Afghanistan. (per FOX)
Started shortly after Biden decision today to not stay later than Aug 31.
Started shortly after Biden decision today to not stay later than Aug 31.
Lilbitsnana
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Some troops already left today. Early pullout is to lessen the footprint due to the threats. (per FOX)
Lilbitsnana
On TB every waking moment
per FOX
Part or all? (missed it) of Biden reason for pullout...it increases the risk to American troops if we don't pull out. (this was his reason he told G7...you know we just plummeted to 100 stories below ground level on the respect level in their eyes.)
ME: ??? no concern for the US citizens that will be left behind?
Part or all? (missed it) of Biden reason for pullout...it increases the risk to American troops if we don't pull out. (this was his reason he told G7...you know we just plummeted to 100 stories below ground level on the respect level in their eyes.)
ME: ??? no concern for the US citizens that will be left behind?
Cacheman
Ultra MAGA!
Joe Biden Afghanistan Coordination Call With G7 Leaders Lasted a Total of Seven Minutes - The Last Refuge
It's all a pantomime folks. According to BBC News reporting the Biden teleconference call with G7 leaders, the sum total of the call lasted seven minutes.
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Joe Biden Afghanistan Coordination Call With G7 Leaders Lasted a Total of Seven Minutes - The Last Refuge
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It’s all a pantomime folks. According to BBC News reporting on the Joe Biden teleconference call with G7 leaders, the sum total of the call lasted seven minutes.
Think about that. With so much at stake and so much to be discussed and coordinated within the emergency situation in Afghanistan, the discussion between Joe Biden and the allied leaders of the U.K, Germany, France, Italy, Canada and Japan, lasted only seven minutes:
(LINK)
It takes longer to get through the drive-thru at a McDonalds than the G7 spent on their Afghanistan briefing and coordination.
That conference call was for two reasons: (1) the White House talking point of a ‘collaboration with G7 leaders’; and (2) a photo-op. That’s it folks, nothing more.
night driver
ESFP adrift in INTJ sea
GOD DAMN THIS SOI DISSANT MAN!!!!
FURTHER COMMENTS BOWDLERIZED
FURTHER COMMENTS BOWDLERIZED
Lilbitsnana
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I wonder if he even considered what this will do to our troops psyche.
I also wonder what his plan is for the thousands of troops over there that just did a hard rethink of their oaths of allegiance.
bw
Fringe Ranger
Maybe it's just me, but I read it to say Joe talked for seven minutes, not that the whole call was seven minutes.
Lilbitsnana
On TB every waking moment
Now being reported that he asked the Pentagon to make a list of contingencies to be able to get people out after the deadline.
Too late. I'm sure we are lower than dirt in the G7s eyes and the whole world's eyes, or will be soon.
Too late. I'm sure we are lower than dirt in the G7s eyes and the whole world's eyes, or will be soon.
sjhenderson
Senior Member
Its called loose the chains and go out and shoot every man holding a gun in the head twice. Now, not later.
night driver
ESFP adrift in INTJ sea
Yup:
"Cry 'HAVOC' and loose the Dogs of War!!"
"Cry 'HAVOC' and loose the Dogs of War!!"
northern watch
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night driver
ESFP adrift in INTJ sea
And then stand the fuvk back while your OH SO EXPENSIVE PROFESSIONALS do the job you trained for.
Lilbitsnana
On TB every waking moment
You are going with the assumption that Biden will let them utilize any of the contingencies they come up with, even that one.
I'm not so confident.
Seeker22
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We are trying- the bastards won't let them leave, either.
Maryh
Veteran Member
I am so ticked off by the president and new commentators saying the Afghan soldiers didn't fight. Just talked to daughter and she said that they (Afghans) were sent out on missions with only one round of ammo. When I asked why, she said that the higher ups were so corrupt that they would keep the money and sell the equipment. Then she said when the Taliban captured the Afghans, they just beheaded them. And she said after so much of that and with little weaponry, they didn't want to be beheaded and turned back. I just feel so bad for those people. She knew those interpreters and would recognize them but not remembering their names. Anyone that helped my daughter, I would even offer to help anyway I could!