mistaken1
Has No Life - Lives on TB
It is for a public purpose.
Constitutional amendments are meaningless when the people with F15s and nuclear weapons ignore the entire document and it's amendments.
BRKG The “CDC” Unilaterally Extends New 60-Day Moratorium on Evictions
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It is for a public purpose.
Constitutional amendments are meaningless when the people with F15s and nuclear weapons ignore the entire document and it's amendments.
mistaken1
Has No Life - Lives on TB
Wasn't there a study that showed (at least in new yawk) that most of the covid infections occurred in those locked down?
Seems that would blow the lockdown aka house arrest theory of covid control to pieces. Then again I did not see it on the CIA media so therefore the study does not exist.
mistaken1
Has No Life - Lives on TB
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Especially when only $3 billion of the TOTAL $47 BILLION HAS BEEN ALLOCATED TO PAY EITHER LANDLORDS OR TENANTS. I mean these demoncrats are just flat out, flat ass INCOMPETENT.
I disagree, these democarps seem pretty damn competent in fomenting a communist coup and using their newfound dictatorial powers to destroy the nation. As I recall 'Fundamentally Change' was wording used by the obamanation who is now in his third term aka second reign of terror. Seems the new code words are "Build Back Better" but implicit in that statement is the need to completely raze everything that has been in place since the founding of the nation. Freedom is not free.
ya know some poor schmuck of a landlord
is gonna say "I,ll believe the supreme court"
and proceed to evict
and then be in a world of (more) hurt
as hes dragged thru every court in the land
while his deadbeat tenant gets press time and $ from sympathetic dems everywhere
and he's bankrupted and ostracized for being cold hearted
as his own family struggles because of no rent being paid by said tenant
Cacheman
Ultra MAGA!
Blackrock is paying these people to keep the eviction mandate. They want the banks to foreclose on ALL private property. Blackrock will buy all these properties up at auction and private home ownership is over. Future generations will be nothing but chattle, serfs, sharecroppers.
“In the future, you will own nothing. And you will be happy.”
“In the future, you will own nothing. And you will be happy.”
mistaken1
Has No Life - Lives on TB
I must have missed that one. Which thread?
But I'm pretty sure my social score will be in the negative numbers if it's dependent on me being politically correct and "woke".
And I really shouldn't be surprised by it but I just canNOT believe that Maxine whats-her-face could blatantly say that on social media with no backlash.
There was plenty of backlash but it was removed for violating the terms of service, something about being critical of commies is prohibited.
ROFL!!!! What they aren't saying is that you can still be evicted if you can't prove that your failure to pay your rent is due to covid19
First, to qualify you have to earn less than $99,000 per year. The income limitations include all assistance as well, so the feds are including unemployment, charity, previous rental assistance, WIC, food assistance, etc etc as income in the household.
You have to prove that you have tried to obtain government rental assistance. If you are denied that you more than likely don't qualify for the CDC moratorium.
Any medical expenses you claim as reason you can't pay your rent must be directly related to covid.
You have to prove you are trying to make timely partial payments.
"The tenant has no other housing options without posing a health risk, including living in close quarters with others or resorting to homelessness."
You will still owe ALL back rent when the moratorium lapses, just like before.
HUD recipients must/have reported changes in household income immediately to their case worker. Case workers, using HUD tables of income, determine the tenants rent portion. If they do not pay their portion as determined by existing criteria, they do not qualify for the CDC moratorium.
If the landlord can prove that you've done anything but pay your bills with all of the stimulus money that has gone out, you can still be evicted. New car? New tv? I even heard a landlord get around the CDC moratorium by taking pictures of all the beer bottles and cigarette pack/trash from the unity each week.
Now here's the other thing. Biden already know the extension will not stand up in court:
Speaking at the White House on Tuesday, Biden said he pushed the CDC to again consider its options. But he still seemed hesitant as to whether the new moratorium could withstand lawsuits about its constitutionality, saying he has sought the opinions of experts as to whether the Supreme Court would approve the measure.
“The bulk of the constitutional scholarship says that it’s not likely to pass constitutional muster,” Biden said. “But there are several key scholars who think that it may and it’s worth the effort.”
The president added that the moratorium — even if it gets challenged in court — “will probably give some additional time” for states and city to release billions of dollars in federal relief to renters.
First, to qualify you have to earn less than $99,000 per year. The income limitations include all assistance as well, so the feds are including unemployment, charity, previous rental assistance, WIC, food assistance, etc etc as income in the household.
You have to prove that you have tried to obtain government rental assistance. If you are denied that you more than likely don't qualify for the CDC moratorium.
Any medical expenses you claim as reason you can't pay your rent must be directly related to covid.
You have to prove you are trying to make timely partial payments.
"The tenant has no other housing options without posing a health risk, including living in close quarters with others or resorting to homelessness."
You will still owe ALL back rent when the moratorium lapses, just like before.
HUD recipients must/have reported changes in household income immediately to their case worker. Case workers, using HUD tables of income, determine the tenants rent portion. If they do not pay their portion as determined by existing criteria, they do not qualify for the CDC moratorium.
If the landlord can prove that you've done anything but pay your bills with all of the stimulus money that has gone out, you can still be evicted. New car? New tv? I even heard a landlord get around the CDC moratorium by taking pictures of all the beer bottles and cigarette pack/trash from the unity each week.
Now here's the other thing. Biden already know the extension will not stand up in court:
Speaking at the White House on Tuesday, Biden said he pushed the CDC to again consider its options. But he still seemed hesitant as to whether the new moratorium could withstand lawsuits about its constitutionality, saying he has sought the opinions of experts as to whether the Supreme Court would approve the measure.
“The bulk of the constitutional scholarship says that it’s not likely to pass constitutional muster,” Biden said. “But there are several key scholars who think that it may and it’s worth the effort.”
The president added that the moratorium — even if it gets challenged in court — “will probably give some additional time” for states and city to release billions of dollars in federal relief to renters.
jward
passin' thru
even this scenario seems overly optimistic...will we live to sit with grandbabies, or even to reach the other side of this insanity??
John Hayward
@Doc_0
1h
That pandemic sounds crazy, Grandpa! What happened next? Well, Timmy, the CDC seized every rental property in America without compensation WOW! You guys could OWN PROPERTY back then? We had a lot of crazy freedoms when the whole thing started, my boy
John Hayward
@Doc_0
1h
That pandemic sounds crazy, Grandpa! What happened next? Well, Timmy, the CDC seized every rental property in America without compensation WOW! You guys could OWN PROPERTY back then? We had a lot of crazy freedoms when the whole thing started, my boy
Melodi
Disaster Cat
I am starting to be reminded of:
"Judge Chalfant has made his decision; now let him enforce it"
This is a quote that is attributed to President Andrew Jackson concerning the confiscation of property and forced removal of the Cherokee.
www.sandiegouniontribune.com
"Judge Chalfant has made his decision; now let him enforce it"
This is a quote that is attributed to President Andrew Jackson concerning the confiscation of property and forced removal of the Cherokee.
Judge Chalfant has made his decision; now let him enforce it
Whether President Andrew Jackson actually said Supreme Court Chief Justice John Marshall “has made his decision; now let him enforce it” after an 1832 ruling is a matter of dispute among historians, but Jackson’s anger over the high court’s assertion of its authority is well-documented.
www.sandiegouniontribune.com
subnet
Boot
What was that quote to SCOTUS?
Something along the lines of "You and what army?"
subnet
Boot
Ahh thats the oneI am starting to be reminded of:
"Judge Chalfant has made his decision; now let him enforce it"
This is a quote that is attributed to President Andrew Jackson concerning the confiscation of property and forced removal of the Cherokee.
Judge Chalfant has made his decision; now let him enforce it
Whether President Andrew Jackson actually said Supreme Court Chief Justice John Marshall “has made his decision; now let him enforce it” after an 1832 ruling is a matter of dispute among historians, but Jackson’s anger over the high court’s assertion of its authority is well-documented.
subnet
Boot
Seems everything the dems do anymore "is constitutional" somehow....smh
Melodi
Disaster Cat
This has been on my mind since the Spring actually, the idea that if they didn't end the moratorium during the Summer months that it wouldn't happen until the next Spring.
By which point almost all small landlords (like two of my best friends in California) will either have had to pay tenents the entire time, sell up, or be bankrupted. That is unless some kind of serious compensation program was put in place.
Sadly, I fear that even if there is a land-lord compensation program (a real one, not a pretend one) that most of the money will go to the really big outfits, just like it always does. Mostly leaving the folks with one or two investment properties to simply go under when the banks call in the loans.
1eagle
Veteran Member
Some statistician probably determined that if they extend another 3 months they will be able to pick-up x% more defaulted mortgages. Blackrock and others will buy these and convert them to section 8 or other .gov sponsored housing program. This will take millions of houses permanently off the market causing valuations to increase overall. Thus holding more people out of owning a home and forced to rent.
tiredude
Veteran Member
this sounds like it is definately slanted to help the deadbeats!!!
20Gauge
TB Fanatic
If you ignore the ruling, you are now saying they have no authority any longer????The “CDC” Unilaterally Extends New 60-Day Moratorium on Evictions
WTH? The "CDC" Unilaterally Extends New 60-Day Moratorium on Evictions - Steep Criminal Penalties For Landlords Who Violate Order | The Gateway Pundit | by Cristina Laila
CDC Director Rochelle Walensky The CDC on Tuesday announced a new 60-day moratorium on evictions.www.thegatewaypundit.com
The CDC on Tuesday announced a new 60-day moratorium on evictions.
CDC Director Rochelle Walensky acted independently and signed the order on Tuesday.
‘This moratorium is the right thing to do to keep people in their homes and out of congregate settings where COVID-19 spreads,’ Walensky said. ‘Such mass evictions and the attendant public health consequences would be very difficult to reverse.’
“This order will expire on October 3, 2021 and applies in United States counties experiencing substantial and high levels of community transmission levels of SARS-CoV-2,” according to a statement, which adds that the moratorium “allows additional time for rent relief to reach renters and to further increase vaccination rates.”
Six million Americans are facing eviction after Democrats went on break for six weeks without extending the eviction moratorium.
** 2 million homeowners are behind on their mortgages
** 6 million renters are behind on their rent payments
The moratorium expired on Saturday.
On Monday, Democrat Rep. Maxine Waters urged the CDC to ignore the Supreme Court ruling and unilaterally extend the eviction moratorium.
View: https://twitter.com/RepMaxineWaters/status/1422290902047985668
Fox News reported:
24 hours later, the CDC complied and extended the eviction moratorium until October 3rd.
20Gauge
TB Fanatic
I did, but worse. So it most likely will get much worse around election time.
20Gauge
TB Fanatic
So they added some additional language to allow themselves to become the Executive / Supreme branch of government.Joseph Zeballos-Roig
@josephzeballos
The new 60-day CDC eviction moratorium carries steep criminal penalties for individual landlords who break the law: - Potential $100k fine and 1 year in jail if eviction doesn't result in death - Up to $250k fine and 1 year in jail if evicted person dies https://cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/communication/Signed-CDC-Eviction-Order.pdf
20Gauge
TB Fanatic
Of course it seems that way. It is far easier to tear down a building than it is to build one.
They are tearing down the country. Each one of them is trying hard to out destroy the person next to them. It is a race for them and they are 50% of the population.
In our case being only 50% it is harder to build that building with 50 people if one idiot keeps burning it down each night.
jward
passin' thru
O we don't have to rebuild the building though; they have literal, and figurative, plans waiting in the wings
for our new global tiny-homes-slave-shack parks (640sf per family o' four iirc), and all the lil red books n
brown shirts they could need to lead us into our Brave New World.
for our new global tiny-homes-slave-shack parks (640sf per family o' four iirc), and all the lil red books n
brown shirts they could need to lead us into our Brave New World.
Eh ... it doesn't help them as much as they think.
In Florida when someone is late on their rent you give them a 3 day notice to correct or leave. At the end of that you file for an eviction and they have five days to respond to the court. If they don't respond, it is an automatic victory for the landlord. If they do respond but don't put all of the rent in with the clerk of the court, it is supposed to be an automatic victory for the landlord. If the judge thinks there is something in the response that needs further review for some reason then they set a court date and both parties have to appear.
Both parties better have all their ducks in a row during the hearing. If the judge gets a whiff of the tenant playing a game the judge can either give an auto win to the landlord or they can set a date the tenant has to be out and their the landlord can put a lien against them, or lots of things but you would be amazed at the number of people that either don't respond to the original complaint (posted by a process server here in Florida) or don't show up for the hearing or show up and just expect the judge to take their side because of the CDC nonsense. Nope.
The CDC moratorium has not prevented evictions from still being issued and served here in Florida once the State moratorium was over with. Nor has it prevented evictions from being served which have to be done by the sheriff here in Florida.
Now other states have other landlord/tenant laws or have kept their state level moratoriums in place. So I can't say for any other state than Florida but we don't have the same trouble with homelessness that other states that have moratoriums in place are having. Take that for whatever it is worth.
vector7
Dot Collector
This is the DNC/DS continued War and Wealth Confiscation (redistribution) of the Independent American Middle Class.
These Americans are the only thing that stands in their way to fully rolling out a Totalitarian Communist Utopia (The Great Reset).
They must be destroyed and replaced with immigrants from dictator run coutries (peasants) to finish securing power for themselves.
Once they fully destroy the Constitution and disarm the population, they obtain Absolute Power.
Then they can begin culling down the herd and focus on serious population reductions like they do in China.
No, that agency is simply acting on orders from the USCP (United States communist party)
Same as customs & border patrol
tiredude
Veteran Member
it always took 6 plus months to get their asses out in MO a few years back.......even with court assistance.....
Standard time barring any kind of hearing ... which really isn't a given, even these days ... was approx 3 weeks and most of that was waiting on the Sheriff to serve the eviction once it was granted by the judge.
ShadowMan
Designated Grumpy Old Fart
"THEY" are trying to kill off economically the "Kulaks"!
The way I see it....the GOVERNMENT shut down the country (for whatever reason....they did, right or wrong) and thus the GOVERNMENT put millions of people out of work, thus it is the GOVERNMENT that MUST assume the responsibility for their actions and it's the GOVERNMENT that OWES the back rent and ANY LOSSES they caused to the landlords, and by forcing a moratorium on tenants paying rents and disallowing landlords to evict...WHICH IS THEIR RIGHT it is the GOVERNMENT that is at fault! So big government...PAY UP or SHUT UP!
As for the rest of the country.....OPEN UP!!
Let the chips fall as they may. Wear a mask, don't wear a mask, get the vaccine, don't get the vaccine. Live or DIE, your choice.
And secondly....BAN CHINA FROM THE WORLD MARKET!! Yeah, it will hurt us for a while. Life here will seriously suck until we get our manufacturing back on line....OH....AND BTW, immediately STOP ALL FOREIGN AID!! To anyone, anywhere. Unless they have something we want or need, then buy it outright, but NO MORE FREE RIDES!! No more propping up other governments or countries. "F"em all! Take care of our OWN FIRST! Lock down the borders.....nobody in, anyone that leaves....good luck, you're on your own and not coming back until this WuFlu crap is over and you can prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that you're disease free.
Oh...and congress. You need money? TAX EVERYONE EQUALLY!! Citizens, companies and ESPECIALLY CORPORATIONS!! FLAT TAX everyone - period, no exceptions. Corporations, no more FREE RIDES! NO MORE LOOP HOLES! You made X amount, you get TAXED this percentage....say 5% or 10%, but EVERYONE is taxed the same. Move off shore, try to hide your assets....you just added another 10-20-30%.... PLUS a penalty for being an unpatriotic jerk!
You can't have a UTOPIAN SOCIALIST SOCIETY if you have GREEDY peasant landlords having the gall to actually demand rent from their tenants. "THEY" are trying to break the back of individual ownership of property. Plain and simple.
The way I see it....the GOVERNMENT shut down the country (for whatever reason....they did, right or wrong) and thus the GOVERNMENT put millions of people out of work, thus it is the GOVERNMENT that MUST assume the responsibility for their actions and it's the GOVERNMENT that OWES the back rent and ANY LOSSES they caused to the landlords, and by forcing a moratorium on tenants paying rents and disallowing landlords to evict...WHICH IS THEIR RIGHT it is the GOVERNMENT that is at fault! So big government...PAY UP or SHUT UP!
As for the rest of the country.....OPEN UP!!
Let the chips fall as they may. Wear a mask, don't wear a mask, get the vaccine, don't get the vaccine. Live or DIE, your choice.
And secondly....BAN CHINA FROM THE WORLD MARKET!! Yeah, it will hurt us for a while. Life here will seriously suck until we get our manufacturing back on line....OH....AND BTW, immediately STOP ALL FOREIGN AID!! To anyone, anywhere. Unless they have something we want or need, then buy it outright, but NO MORE FREE RIDES!! No more propping up other governments or countries. "F"em all! Take care of our OWN FIRST! Lock down the borders.....nobody in, anyone that leaves....good luck, you're on your own and not coming back until this WuFlu crap is over and you can prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that you're disease free.
Oh...and congress. You need money? TAX EVERYONE EQUALLY!! Citizens, companies and ESPECIALLY CORPORATIONS!! FLAT TAX everyone - period, no exceptions. Corporations, no more FREE RIDES! NO MORE LOOP HOLES! You made X amount, you get TAXED this percentage....say 5% or 10%, but EVERYONE is taxed the same. Move off shore, try to hide your assets....you just added another 10-20-30%.... PLUS a penalty for being an unpatriotic jerk!
lostinaz
Senior Member
Eventually this game will run out, and it will be time for a new game. Once that occurs, they will feel the need to provide housing to all these millions who will be homeless in every state. It will be a "disaster of unprecendented proportions" and "we must solve this problem...for the children". I assume that means they will set up camps for those people? Hmm, perhaps those camps could be used for other purposes as well, like forcibly seperating the unvaxxed from the general public "for the children"? As soon as you turn yourself over to the loving care of Uncle Suger, I'm sure you will be free to choose if you want to be subjected to all manner of "medical treatments", right?
vector7
Dot Collector
Communist China: ‘Private Ownership Of Guns’ In U.S. ‘Serious Problem,’ Must ‘Change’
December 31, 2019
Communist China, which currently has millions of people locked away in concentration camps, said in state-controlled media this week that the Second Amendment is a “serious problem” and that there needs to be “change” in how the American public views “private ownership of guns.”
This is how stupid the DNC/DS ('USEFUL IDIOTS') really are.
They're lust for power is so insatiable they'll blindly hand the CCP and Russia cloaked behind her the keys to the country to create a post American world where China-Russia really become the New World Order at it's center.
BlackRock: "A rewiring of globalization, with a bipolar U.S.-China world order at its center"
The BlackRock Investment Institute sees the p(l)andemic accelerating a rewiring of globalization, with a bipolar U.S.-China world order at its center. We believe investors need exposure to both poles of growth.
View: https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1422748662409596931?s=20
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stop tyranny
Veteran Member
The cdc does not have the authority to extend anything. The first moratorium has already been ruled unconstitutional. Unless the property owners are are being compensated for the dead beat renters. The Takings Clause of the Fifth Amendment to the United States Constitution reads as follows: “Nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.” In understanding the provision, we both agree that it is helpful to keep in mind the reasons behind it. We agree that the Clause is intended to uphold the principle that the government should not single out isolated individuals to bear excessive burdens, even in support of an important public good. When this happens, the payment of “just compensation” provides a means of removing any special burden. The most influential statement of this principle is found in Armstrong v. United States (1960), where the Supreme Court wrote: “The Fifth Amendment’s [Takings Clause] . . . was designed to bar Government from forcing some people alone to bear public burdens which, in all fairness and justice, should be borne by the public as a whole.”
Doomer Doug
TB Fanatic
It has gotten lost in the chaff, but free rent means landlords will have no money for maintenace.
The tenants will be living in decaying buildings. I have seen this in multiple buildings I have gone into.
The older building that houses my dentist yesterday had one of three elevators out of service and the bathrom on her floor was out of service.
Now THAT is the new normal.
Heat in the winter will also become a factor.
The tenants will be living in decaying buildings. I have seen this in multiple buildings I have gone into.
The older building that houses my dentist yesterday had one of three elevators out of service and the bathrom on her floor was out of service.
Now THAT is the new normal.
Heat in the winter will also become a factor.
20Gauge
TB Fanatic
In Georgia it is similar. 10 days to respond and there is a court date, but they last 10 minutes at most.
Ex....did you pay your rent? No? You are out in 10 days
Wife is telling me that a number of coworkers are seeing family get evicted, but are trying to claim the CDC thing. The judge is saying this is GEORGIA!!!!! You are out!!!!
Iowa Wiley
Contributing Member
^^^THIS^^^
Old Gray Mare
TB Fanatic
What are the GOP Congressional and Senate members doing? Sending a strongly worded memo? Until they get their heads out of their nether regions and do something that reinstates Constitutional Rule of Law, they are just as guilty.
I really didn't think the CDC had the legal power to do this. After reading some of the referenced US codes they would have to twist and bend the provisions like pretzels to do this.
Expect this to be challenged in court and it will likely be overturned in a lower court before it gets to SCOTUS. The big question is how freaking long it will take.
The CDC and both the Biden and Trump administrations have done a criminal job of managing this disease.
In the mean time Congress is basically paralyzed.
Expect this to be challenged in court and it will likely be overturned in a lower court before it gets to SCOTUS. The big question is how freaking long it will take.
The CDC and both the Biden and Trump administrations have done a criminal job of managing this disease.
In the mean time Congress is basically paralyzed.