BRKG The “CDC” Unilaterally Extends New 60-Day Moratorium on Evictions

et2

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Who needs the Supreme Court we got progressive democrats.

Hell might as well dissolve Congress since we have the decree’s from his highness Obam.... Errr I mean Biden wink wink...

well then there‘s the CDC … they run things now, with demon Fauci
 
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et2

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Wait until they bring in foriegn troops to enforce vaccinations … oh wait …

The Demonrats were so effective tearing Trump and us apart in his 4 years. The Republicants are a bunch of useless :poop:. They stand absolutely zero chance of surviving, and neither do we. We’re on our own.

Let’s not forget … the commies allow deadbeats to not pay the landlords, for over a year. But the commies still expect the landlords and homeowners to pay their note. They’re purposely bankrupting and destroying middle class. They want us broken, subservient & dependent on them and living in the housing they provide. It’s all part of the plan. We are at war … most people don’t get it. Free stuff and all.
 

Doomer Doug

TB Fanatic
It is a political decision designed to give aid and comfort to biden and his supporters.

The courts must now understand how feckless and in contempt they are held by the deep state.

Kavanaugh is now seen as a fool. He gave them more time and they screwed him.

Well, Doc1 this may be the trigger event when the RED STATES deny the cdc's authority and continue evictions per the July 31st date.

Blue states will follow the cdc extension.

The cdc has now set up a direct confrontation between an insolent, out of control cdc and a gutless spineless court system, especially SCOTUS. :vik:
Yep, the Deep State has factions and we are seeing a food fight.:kaid:
 

artichoke

Greetings from near tropical NYC!
Sorry I didn't see this thread and just posted a parallel one. My comment is that this is obviously illegal.

(1) CDC again regulating outside its area of competence
(2) specifically against recent SCOTUS order telling them not to do that
(3) discriminating against some tenants (the 10%) and against the landlords of the other tenants (the 90%).
 

artichoke

Greetings from near tropical NYC!
If Biden had had an agency with competence in the areas of rental housing, like HUD, make this regulation, and had continued it for all rentals not just 90% of them, it could have avoided all three of the problems I listed. They could have continued to steal from landlords, apparently without violating any laws or the constitution. But they didn't do it that way.

Makes me wonder if they're not trying to lose a lawsuit and give landlords a way to get paid.
 

desertvet2

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artichoke

Greetings from near tropical NYC!
I don't understand how this isn't an unconstitutional taking under the 5th amendment. The government is in effect taking the landlords property and giving it to the tenant for free.
It must be because the taking is not for a "public purpose". It's unconstitutional to take for a public purpose without just compensation, but to take the use of the landlord's property and give it to an individual tenant is not a public purpose.

I guess. That's the only sense I can make of it. Like when you lose a civil case in court, the judge takes from you and gives to your opponent. They had to make that constitutional or we could not have civil courts. So now the CDC is just declaring landlords to be losers to their tenants, just because they can. (Actually I think they can't, but HUD could.)

We might need a constitutional amendment to fix this problem.
 

Kris Gandillon

The Other Curmudgeon
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Shadowman asked, “what does housing evictions have to do with DISEASE?!”

In the original announcement of this action by the CDC a year ago, this is what the declaration of this action stated:

In the context of a pandemic, eviction moratoria—like quarantine, isolation, and social distancing—can be an effective public health measure utilized to prevent the spread of communicable disease. Eviction moratoria facilitate self-isolation by people who become ill or who are at risk for severe illness from COVID-19 due to an underlying medical condition. They also allow State and local authorities to more easily implement stay-at-home and social distancing directives to mitigate the community spread of COVID-19. Furthermore, housing stability helps protect public health because homelessness increases the likelihood of individuals moving into congregate settings, such as homeless shelters, which then puts individuals at higher risk to COVID-19. The ability of these settings to adhere to best practices, such as social distancing and other infection control measures, decreases as populations increase. Unsheltered homelessness also increases the risk that individuals will experience severe illness from COVID- 19.
 

summerthyme

Administrator
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Shadowman asked, “what does housing evictions have to do with DISEASE?!”

In the original announcement of this action by the CDC a year ago, this is what the declaration of this action stated:

In the context of a pandemic, eviction moratoria—like quarantine, isolation, and social distancing—can be an effective public health measure utilized to prevent the spread of communicable disease. Eviction moratoria facilitate self-isolation by people who become ill or who are at risk for severe illness from COVID-19 due to an underlying medical condition. They also allow State and local authorities to more easily implement stay-at-home and social distancing directives to mitigate the community spread of COVID-19. Furthermore, housing stability helps protect public health because homelessness increases the likelihood of individuals moving into congregate settings, such as homeless shelters, which then puts individuals at higher risk to COVID-19. The ability of these settings to adhere to best practices, such as social distancing and other infection control measures, decreases as populations increase. Unsheltered homelessness also increases the risk that individuals will experience severe illness from COVID- 19.
And in that year, has ANYONE released a study on how badly this dangerous, contagious, deadly-in-the-immune-impaired virus has decimated (or worse!) The homeless population? I mean, it must have, right? I'm sure there have been deaths, but if there is a more vulnerable population short of the hospice ward of the local nursing home, I can't think of it.

Crickets...

Summerthyme
 

thompson

Certa Bonum Certamen
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Well, we are officially in deep Banana Republic territory!



Sure... just ignore the Supreme Court and do what you want! And Kavanaugh is a moron... if voting to end the unconstitutional mandate is the correct choice, why in hell vote the other way *just because they were about to end the unconstitutional mandate*?!

Summerthyme
 

Doomer Doug

TB Fanatic
My opinion is this cdc taking of landlord revenue falls into the class of an "illegal taking," which is definitely unconstitutional. I think this is the point Kavanaugh was making when he gave them/ ie Congress, another few weeks to sort this out once the July 31st, expiration date was hit.

You do all realize that we may now have created, and this was likely the intent all along, a brand new ENTITLEMENT of free rent, draped in the mantra of "forebearance," which was based on "emergency medical protocols," related to the Covid 19 pandemic. Of Course, they may just keep extending it 3 months at a time. This shows the Progressive Marxist Demoncrats wear the pants in the party, AOC, the Squad and Cory Bush et al. What we got now is a semi permenent free rent entitlement that apparently has no expiration date at all, as they will just ignore any court rulings, which is what they have been doing. come October 3rd, Kris me thinks they will just extend it to past Christmas, and then till spring and then just keep rolling the dice. Why not, Congress won't touch it, and the courts are spineless.

Yep, like I said way back when, just keep doing it and doing it till the chinese and Russians really do take down our "global reserve currecy," and biden et al are screwed big time.

Everybody foams at the mouth about the "printing presses," but my money is on being able to create a full bore entitlement, using something like the CDC and then given millions of tenants, billions in free aid.

Especially when only $3 billion of the TOTAL $47 BILLION HAS BEEN ALLOCATED TO PAY EITHER LANDLORDS OR TENANTS. I mean these demoncrats are just flat out, flat ass INCOMPETENT. :shd:
 

Jaybird

Veteran Member
And in that year, has ANYONE released a study on how badly this dangerous, contagious, deadly-in-the-immune-impaired virus has decimated (or worse!) The homeless population? I mean, it must have, right? I'm sure there have been deaths, but if there is a more vulnerable population short of the hospice ward of the local nursing home, I can't think of it.

Crickets...

Summerthyme
Nope. They are alive and well and spreading out. They are moving to places like I live. The Californians must have given them a ride.
 

Babs

Veteran Member
Or physically evict them, ie, take all their shit and put it on the street when they're gone, and let them sue you. That would likely be less expensive than allowing them to live rent free for years.
 

Southside

Has No Life - Lives on TB
If I was a landlord right now I'd be on the phone to a lawyer screaming bloody murder.

So now the flippin CDC thinks they're going to be calling the shots on housing?? Oh Hell No.
You read the other thread on social score, babysteps? maybe you should. Cause if you keep this sh!t up, yours is going to suck.

Mine being just as sucky is a given.
 

summerthyme

Administrator
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We need a crying smiley (in the "like" reaction)... because I find my anger is being replaced by a deep sadness... and a steely resolve. I miss my country.

Oh, and those angry reactions above are NOT directed at the posters (obvious, I hope) but at the content. They're speeding it up fast, now, trying to inflict as much damage possible before we take it back. Of course, their goal is to prevent that entirely. They're not even trying to hide it anymore. Scary as hell!

Summerthyme
 

babysteps

Veteran Member
You read the other thread on social score, babysteps? maybe you should. Cause if you keep this sh!t up, yours is going to suck.

Mine being just as sucky is a given.

I must have missed that one. Which thread?

But I'm pretty sure my social score will be in the negative numbers if it's dependent on me being politically correct and "woke".

And I really shouldn't be surprised by it but I just canNOT believe that Maxine whats-her-face could blatantly say that on social media with no backlash.

:sht:
 

MinnesotaSmith

Membership Revoked
And in that year, has ANYONE released a study on how badly this dangerous, contagious, deadly-in-the-immune-impaired virus has decimated (or worse!) The homeless population? I mean, it must have, right? I'm sure there have been deaths, but if there is a more vulnerable population short of the hospice ward of the local nursing home, I can't think of it.

Crickets...

Summerthyme
The impression I have from what I've read is that that group hasn't really had raised death rates the past 18 months. One, they're not so old; two, they don't get the fauxine much (which seems to kill more than the Chinavirus); and, three, the Chinavirus doesn't really kill that many people; I think it's pretty much just the flu with a LOT of "oh s**t the world is ending" overreaction for commie evil purposes.
 

ssonb

Senior Member
Hey what about us that pay our monthly payments to our landlords "banks"!?!? Why arnt We gittin free stuff too????
Come on now everyone... Gimmy! Gimmy! Gimmy! Tooo.
LOUDER THEY CAN'T HEAR YOU.......
 

Luddite

Veteran Member
Hey what about us that pay our monthly payments to our landlords "banks"!?!? Why arnt We gittin free stuff too????
Come on now everyone... Gimmy! Gimmy! Gimmy! Tooo.
LOUDER THEY CAN'T HEAR YOU.......
To channel E Warren: "Bless your heart" :)

That being said, GET UP and Get to work. Your automatic payroll withholdings need a new home in uncle Sam's pocket.
 

Henry Bowman

Veteran Member
If I was a landlord right now I'd be on the phone to a lawyer screaming bloody murder.

So now the flippin CDC thinks they're going to be calling the shots on housing?? Oh Hell No.
Yes well it seems that they have.

Perhaps they did not hear you.
 

Henry Bowman

Veteran Member
Sorry I didn't see this thread and just posted a parallel one. My comment is that this is obviously illegal.

(1) CDC again regulating outside its area of competence
(2) specifically against recent SCOTUS order telling them not to do that
(3) discriminating against some tenants (the 10%) and against the landlords of the other tenants (the 90%).
You are going by the false assumption that there is a rule of Law.
 

Southside

Has No Life - Lives on TB
I must have missed that one. Which thread?

But I'm pretty sure my social score will be in the negative numbers if it's dependent on me being politically correct and "woke".

And I really shouldn't be surprised by it but I just canNOT believe that Maxine whats-her-face could blatantly say that on social media with no backlash.

:sht:
Here is one, there are others. They are coming after us all!

As you can see from my avatar, the only thing lower than my "social score" is my IQ.......

And Maxine can do anything. Like all the Communist, she is protected by the "Presstitutes"
 

West

Senior
Those greedy landlords, plus their probably racist whities.

Predict this causes a rent house/apartment shortage, and much higher rents.

All by mandate.

Funny my mother lives in government housing, and they never gave her a break on the percentage she has to pay on the rent.

This BS is directed right at the private smaller housing sector. Just like the lockdowns. Kill all small businesses by mandate.

Sickening.
 
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