POL Trump Says It’s ‘Up to the Public’ to Decide Whether He’s Reinstated If Election Audits Prove Massive Fraud

Cardinal

Chickministrator
_______________

Former President Donald Trump declared on Monday that he has not admitted defeat, nor conceded the 2020 presidential election, and it’s up to the public to decide whether he is reinstated if state election audits prove massive fraud.

Arizona is currently conducting a forensic audit of the election, Georgia petitioners are awaiting a judge’s decision to proceed with their audit, and in Pennsylvania, lawmakers are reportedly preparing to launch “a very careful recount” of the Commonwealth’s election results.

“I never admitted defeat … we have a lot of things happening right now,” Trump said in a telephone interview with reporter David Brody on Real America’s Voice.

“I never used the word concede, I have not conceded,” Trump added. “All you have to do is read the newspapers and see what’s coming out now.”

Brody asked Trump what he thought should happen if the Arizona and Georgia election audits “come back with fully verified evidence of voter fraud.”

Trump said he believes that the audits will prove that the election was rigged, and predicted that more states will follow Arizona and Georgia’s lead as evidence mounts.

“It’s going to be determined what’s going to happen,” Trump said. “That’s not up to me. That’s up to the public. That’s up to a lot of people, I guess. If the election were determined to be a fraud—and it’s looking more and more like that is the case—people are going to have to make a determination as to what’s going to happen,” he said.

Brody asked Trump to address the widespread belief among his supporters that he will be reinstated as president by August of this year.

“There’s actually a poll out, a Morning Consult poll that says 30 percent of Republicans actually think that,” Brody said. “Can you set the record straight? Do you believe you could potentially be reinstated?”

Without answering the question directly, Trump noted that “there is a tremendous percentage [of people] that thinks the election was rigged and stolen.”

He went on to say that his concerns about election fraud are not unique, as Democrat presidential nominee Hillary Clinton in 2016 and Georgia gubernatorial candidate Stacey Abrams in 2018 also raised concerns about fraud after they lost their elections, although, as Trump pointed out, neither of them had evidence to back up their claims.

“In this case, there’s massive evidence. It’s coming out of Georgia. Just take a look at what’s happening,” he said, lamenting that the corporate media refuses to cover credible evidence of fraud in the 2020 election.

Trump predicted that the numbers of stolen votes that will be exposed by the audits “will be massive.”

When pressed on whether he thinks he could be reinstated, Trump refused to comment. “I’m not going to comment on that. I’m just going to see what happens,” he told Brody.

“If the election was fraudulent, people are going to make up their own minds. It’s not going to be up to me,” Trump said. “It’s going to be up to the public. It’s going to be up to, I guess, politicians. I don’t think there’s ever been a case like this where hundreds of thousands of votes will be found.”

Trump threw cold water on recent reports that he was vying for House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy’s job in 2022, as the Constitution does not require the Speaker to be a member of Congress.

Trump said he was aware of the chatter but that it was not something he was considering.

“I have seen talk about that, but it is nothing that I have ever considered,” he said.

“The election was a horrible, horrible thing for our country,” Trump added. “The whole world is watching. You know, we were always known for free and fair elections. Well, it turns out they weren’t free, and they weren’t fair.”

He told Brody that he hasn’t made a decision yet on 2024, and is mainly focused on helping Republicans retake the House in 2022.

When asked about his feelings on Florida Governor Ron DeSantis running in 2024, Trump seemed to take credit for DeSantis’s meteoric rise in GOP politics.

“I think Ron’s very good. I endorsed him, and when I endorsed him he went up like a rocket ship,” Trump said. “Ron’s a friend of mine, he’s doing great.”

When asked about his feelings on former vice president Mike Pence, Trump said that while he has always liked Pence, he was very disappointed that he didn’t kick the disputed state election results back to the State legislatures to adjudicate.

Trump said the vice president had every right to do it as there were “more votes than you have voters in some cases.”

“I was disappointed that he didn’t send it back. I thought he had the right to send it back, and he should have sent it back,” he said.

Trump noted that in addition to Arizona, Georgia and Pennsylvania are now “looking at what happened” in the election, and if Pence had sent the disputed results back to the state legislatures, “I think you would have found that you might very well have a very different president right now.”


Pennsylvania is reportedly poised to begin an Arizona-style audit of the 2020 election.

State Sen. David Argall, who heads a committee that oversees elections, told reporters last week that he wants a forensic audit of the Commonwealth’s suspect election results.

“It’s a very careful recount, forensic audit, so yeah, I don’t see the danger in it,” Argall said Friday during a live event with Spotlight PA, a consortium of media companies from across the state. “I just think that it would not be a bad idea at all to proceed with an audit similar to what they’re doing in Arizona.”

On Tuesday, Trump put out the following statement claiming victory in Georgia after Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger’s decided to purge voter rolls of over 100,000 outdated voter files.

Georgia now plans to remove over 100,000 “obsolete and outdated” names off their voter rolls. Doing this, they say, will ensure voting files are up to date, while at the same time ensuring voter integrity in future elections. BUT WHAT ABOUT THE LAST ELECTION? WHY WASN’T THIS DONE PRIOR TO THE NOVEMBER 3RD PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION, where they had us losing by a very small number of votes, many times less than the 101,789 figure? This means we (you!) won the Presidential Election in Georgia. But don’t fret, much other information will soon be revealed about Georgia—and other States as well. It is coming out FAST and FURIOUS. The 2020 Presidential Election was rigged!
Statement-by-Donald-J-Trump-45th-President-of-the-United-States-of-America-nicedebs-gmail-com-Gmail-1.png
 

Buick Electra

TB2K Girls with Guns
View: https://twitter.com/RaheemKassam/status/1407715740124340230


Support.JPG
 

desert_fox

Threadkiller
Too far down the rabbit hole now to turn around. Although I like the idea of him coming back just to piss off the elites and cause sky screaming that can be heard from Mars. It ain't going to happen.
 

pinkelsteinsmom

Veteran Member
And it will be "up to the people." What the hell does he expect US to do about it?
Thought the white hat good guy military was in charge of bringing him back.....you know, that military industrial complex that Eisenhower warned us about? DJT will go down in history as the man that lost the Republic. He had all the power but not the balls, he walked and left us to survive the take over.
 

Bubble Head

Has No Life - Lives on TB
He is going to the Southern Border to bolster those that are attempting to hold the line. This will make news around the internet and the world but silence from the commie news managers. Yet it sends a signal of leadership. He will then attend a rally in Ohio. The turn out will be the answer to your questions. I believe near 100 million voters voted for him and way more than that support now support him with 6 months into the commie agenda. States are currently dividing amongst themselves and alliances with other states are being formed. True we are in an area not covered by the Constitution except for a Constitutional Convention called by the States. If the fraud uncovered is so massive, and it is, the threat from foreign powers so great there could be such a ground swell to remove the Coup De Ta players from the public that anything becomes possible. Donald Trump could Unite us and put in place orders to strengthen our borders and military. We could become an exporter of fuel to the world like we were less than a year ago under his leadership. At this point we are not following the Constitution so to restore it we may have to bend a few rules ourselves.
To those who think I am smoking to much hopium let me tell you now it is home grown.
 

Josie

Has No Life - Lives on TB
When he walked/flew away from the position, he abandoned it for good and all in my eyes. YMMV of course. I would not fight for DJT, given how he has responded to the plight of those who answered his call on 6 Jan.
Just curious because inquiring minds want to know, but what would you have him do if you want everything legal? It was taken to the Supreme Court and turned away.

ETA...I don't think DJT failed you. YOUR elected officials and YOUR court system failed you.
 
Last edited:

Dozdoats

On TB every waking moment
TACAMO.

milspeak for Take Charge And Move Out.

He just left. Yeah, I know all the Deep Dark Workings going on behind the scenes, and I expect the Trump Restoration Cavalry (mounted on zebras) to come thundering over the ridge Any Moment Now....

We are going to get a war out of this, and part of that war will have DJT's name on it by default. He should have cowboyed up and claimed it when he could .... and when he could have mustered momentum. Now, the tide has turned.
 

BadMedicine

Would *I* Lie???
I love that he has the entire republican party on a razors edge. Nobody wants to speak or move without being endorsed by him. None of the R's want to say anything negative about him and are now starting to see. I have no doubt he will return to the presidency...IF HE LIVES THAT LONG. I feel TPTB are trying harder than ever to take him out.. he is the biggest speedbump in their plans and if he were killed a LOT of air could go out of the freedom/constitution movement. Might even cause a .ml -flip if it is tooo obviously to steal the country /if it happens to far in to his next run. He'll be back.

He was in a VERY shit position with the government in-fighting as to the going forward and him basically being black balled from DC after the jan 6 freedom march. ....In hind site, which is always 2020, he should have used the insurrection act to take over all polling/tallying places. And should have put pence on the spot as to whether or not he was going to follow the prez orders on that day, and if not, replace him with a LOYAL CONSTITUTIONAL VP...maybe his son, for the jan 6 festivities and send them back to the states. He was PRES until jan 20 and had a lot of powers... but also, the entire evil of the world was against him.. and they have been planning this coup on the constitution since before 1913.
 

Raggedyman

Res ipsa loquitur
ETA...I don't think DJT failed you. YOUR elected officials and YOUR court system failed you.

ABSOLUTELY!!! at this point I am truly ready to see it burned to the salted scorched earth. it is broken beyond repair. but - but - but RM! we could end up with something worse than what we have right now!!!

YES YOU COULD
but at the current rate of descent and considering the specific density of ABSOLUTE CORRUPTION where ever you care to look - you're going to get there in another 3-5 years ANYWAY.

DJT had his "issues" no doubt - but he also PLACED AMERICA FIRST
HE did not fail us as much as WE failed us.​
 

Tristan

Has No Life - Lives on TB
He is going to the Southern Border to bolster those that are attempting to hold the line. This will make news around the internet and the world but silence from the commie news managers. Yet it sends a signal of leadership. He will then attend a rally in Ohio. The turn out will be the answer to your questions. I believe near 100 million voters voted for him and way more than that support now support him with 6 months into the commie agenda. States are currently dividing amongst themselves and alliances with other states are being formed. True we are in an area not covered by the Constitution except for a Constitutional Convention called by the States. If the fraud uncovered is so massive, and it is, the threat from foreign powers so great there could be such a ground swell to remove the Coup De Ta players from the public that anything becomes possible. Donald Trump could Unite us and put in place orders to strengthen our borders and military. We could become an exporter of fuel to the world like we were less than a year ago under his leadership. At this point we are not following the Constitution so to restore it we may have to bend a few rules ourselves.
To those who think I am smoking to much hopium let me tell you now it is home grown.


Indications that your statement is true re: actual vs. putative votes is the exceptional measures some states are trying to hammer through to assure a vote subject to massive manipulation and no transparency.

All in the name of "Voter Rights".


:prfl:
 

Melodi

Disaster Cat
My guess is that since it is the electoral college that officially selects the President (and I use select intentionally here) that there is no easy constitutional way for Trump to take on the Presidency even if massive voter fraud were found. Biden and even Harris might be impeached over the situation, but unless Trump was appointed (the way Ford was) I don't see how he gets back in at the moment.

The Senators on the other hand have no such protections and overturning one seat would create (I think) a full tie in the Senate and 2 seats going Republican would give the Republicans a majority. From which place it would be much easier to totally stall out any and all of the Biden/Harris agenda and if things got bad enough make it easier for impeachments to take place (though if the house is still Democratic that is unlikely - the 25th might be more likely).

The Presidential situation could end up in the Supreme Court, but again, as long as the electors do the official electing and there are constitutional provisions for them to select and vote in a President of the vote is too close to call, so I suspect Biden has it (for now) or at least until his health fails.
 

ssbn642blue

Veteran Member
He is going to the Southern Border to bolster those that are attempting to hold the line. This will make news around the internet and the world but silence from the commie news managers. Yet it sends a signal of leadership. He will then attend a rally in Ohio. The turn out will be the answer to your questions. I believe near 100 million voters voted for him and way more than that support now support him with 6 months into the commie agenda. States are currently dividing amongst themselves and alliances with other states are being formed. True we are in an area not covered by the Constitution except for a Constitutional Convention called by the States. If the fraud uncovered is so massive, and it is, the threat from foreign powers so great there could be such a ground swell to remove the Coup De Ta players from the public that anything becomes possible. Donald Trump could Unite us and put in place orders to strengthen our borders and military. We could become an exporter of fuel to the world like we were less than a year ago under his leadership. At this point we are not following the Constitution so to restore it we may have to bend a few rules ourselves.
To those who think I am smoking to much hopium let me tell you now it is home grown.


Damn, I can only wish........
 

Gold Dust

Veteran Member
This evil corruption is Worldwide and there are many foreign players (involved with the fraud) It takes time to get everyone....If they don't they will come back again. We must make sure this never happens again.
 

packyderms_wife

Neither here nor there.
Did 5hey even count the electoral votes, wasn’t that what January 6th was really about to stop the counting of the votes?
 

SpokaneMan

Veteran Member
He certainly sounded overly humbled in that statement. I don't think he was being all truthful. Hoping he has an ace up his sleeve and the white hat .mil really is in charge. I still remain a little hopeful, even if it's a movement that starts from it.
 

TerryK

TB Fanatic
Did 5hey even count the electoral votes, wasn’t that what January 6th was really about to stop the counting of the votes?
Yes they counted the electoral votes.
And yes the people who participated in the Jan 6th riots tried to circumvent the Constitution.
I don't think they expected to get as far as they did, but due to the incompetence of the Capital police, FBI and several other agencies, they could have easily succeeded.

Anyway, Pence was only the master of ceremonies. Trump expecting him to change votes and several other things he has said over the years pretty much proves he never read or at least understood the Constitution.

According to the Constitution, Pence does not have the power to reject any electoral votes. Only the entire joint session can do that.
Here's how it works.
As Pence pulls each state's signed and certified count out of a box, he hands it to a reader who reads it aloud.
At that time any house or senate members may object.
The only condition is that any objections by one or more House members has to also have a Senator on board for the objection.
If that happens then the entire joint session adjourns to their chamber and each member is given 5 minutes to speak and they are allowed up to 2 hours to vote.
For the electoral votes from that state to be thrown out a majority of both the House and the Senate has to vote to throw those electoral votes out. That did not happen even once, and nobody expected it to. It was just a means for most Congressmen and Senators to make public their objections.

At no point in the objection process does the Constitution give Pence the right to decide whether to count a states electoral votes or not.

Several hours later and after a postponement of the process by people trying to disrupt and stop this Constitutional process, the running tally of votes was there for all to see and at that point Trump had officially lost the election.
Pence merely read the totals and gaveled the joint session to a close. At no point in this process did he have any power to change or disallow any electoral votes. Hell if someone would have shot Pence before he could have proclaimed Biden the President elect, it would not have made a difference according to the Constitution.
The Joint Session of Congress had already done their Constitutional job.

Biden, whether we like it or not is and will be President until 2024 or his death or if he is found incompetent. Whichever comes sooner.
I don't want anything to happen to him because I really and truly believe that Harris would turn out to be a hundred times worse than Biden. If Biden gets 25th then Harris automatically becomes President and that would suck worse than what we have now because Harris actually has functioning neurons in her brain.. And if something happened to both of them it would fall to Pelosi and then hell will have truly come to earth.

Like it or not, the Dems are going to keep the Presidency until 2024. Even if massive voter fraud is proven in court it will have no effect.
The audit they have going on out west is already a lost cause. Too many irregularities and lost chain of custodies etc for it to have any standing in any court. Whoever chose a firm called cyber ninjas to conduct this audit was out of their freaking minds.
But then again, Trump who could have hired the absolute best lawyers in the country to take his case to court, DIDN'T.
The case got thrown out from all the courts because of the clown show of lawyers Trump was using.
It was the most stupid decision ever, unless he never expected to present a serious legal challenge and instead only used them for publicity and fund raising purposes.

Finally a court can only prosecute people it deems committed a crime. They have absolutely no authority to remove a sitting President or to install Trump as President. Those powers are fully controlled by the Constitution.
If Trump wants to be President he will have to run in 2024 and win. That is always a possibility.
 
Last edited:

TerryK

TB Fanatic
The problem is that those people with the signs aren't Americans and don't vote.
Now think about the people from that country not carrying signs that are being let into this country by sleepy Joe right this minute.
They are in all likelihood going to eventually become voters and they probably aren't going to vote Republican.

While we can all appreciate the irony of those signs we see, it's what we don't see that's happening on the border, that is becoming the death of this country.
 

naegling62

Veteran Member
Nobody did their job. All the failsafe infrastructure failed. DJT is not the kind of leader who deserves devoted loyalties. He was good for the moment and he had his chance.

I appreciate all he did. Would I like to see this happen? Absolutely, but do not stick your neck out for this guy.
 
Last edited:

Ractivist

Pride comes before the fall.....Pride month ended.
Yes they counted the electoral votes.
And yes the people who participated in the Jan 6th riots tried to circumvent the Constitution.
I don't think they expected to get as far as they did, but due to the incompetence of the Capital police, FBI and several other agencies, they could have easily succeeded.

Anyway, Pence was only the master of ceremonies. Trump expecting him to change votes and several other things he has said over the years pretty much proves he never read or at least understood the Constitution.

According to the Constitution, Pence does not have the power to reject any electoral votes. Only the entire joint session can do that.
Here's how it works.
As Pence pulls each state's signed and certified count out of a box, he hands it to a reader who reads it aloud.
At that time any house or senate members may object.
The only condition is that any objections by one or more House members has to also have a Senator on board for the objection.
If that happens then the entire joint session adjourns to their chamber and each member is given 5 minutes to speak and they are allowed up to 2 hours to vote.
For the electoral votes from that state to be thrown out a majority of both the House and the Senate has to vote to throw those electoral votes out. That did not happen even once, and nobody expected it to. It was just a means for most Congressmen and Senators to make public their objections.

At no point in the objection process does the Constitution give Pence the right to decide whether to count a states electoral votes or not.

Several hours later and after a postponement of the process by people trying to disrupt and stop this Constitutional process, the running tally of votes was there for all to see and at that point Trump had officially lost the election.
Pence merely read the totals and gaveled the joint session to a close. At no point in this process did he have any power to change or disallow any electoral votes. Hell if someone would have shot Pence before he could have proclaimed Biden the President elect, it would not have made a difference according to the Constitution.
The Joint Session of Congress had already done their Constitutional job.

Biden, whether we like it or not is and will be President until 2024 or his death or if he is found incompetent. Whichever comes sooner.
I don't want anything to happen to him because I really and truly believe that Harris would turn out to be a hundred times worse than Biden. If Biden gets 25th then Harris automatically becomes President and that would suck worse than what we have now because Harris actually has functioning neurons in her brain.. And if something happened to both of them it would fall to Pelosi and then hell will have truly come to earth.

Like it or not, the Dems are going to keep the Presidency until 2024. Even if massive voter fraud is proven in court it will have no effect.
The audit they have going on out west is already a lost cause. Too many irregularities and lost chain of custodies etc for it to have any standing in any court. Whoever chose a firm called cyber ninjas to conduct this audit was out of their freaking minds.
But then again, Trump who could have hired the absolute best lawyers in the country to take his case to court, DIDN'T.
The case got thrown out from all the courts because of the clown show of lawyers Trump was using.
It was the most stupid decision ever, unless he never expected to present a serious legal challenge and instead only used them for publicity and fund raising purposes.

Finally a court can only prosecute people it deems committed a crime. They have absolutely no authority to remove a sitting President or to install Trump as President. Those powers are fully controlled by the Constitution.
If Trump wants to be President he will have to run in 2024 and win. That is always a possibility.
The voter fraud was well established prior to the count and not one senator would sign on it......hence the problem, the tyranny. They used the faux riot to offset the steal........the evidence of fraud abounded at that time..it was ignored by all in DC and the narrative changed immediately, never to be addressed till now.

i still have hope to see the damned truths exposed to all the useful idiots.....no matter in the big pic, Shtf is guaranteed, one way or the other.
 

Tripod

Veteran Member
To me it sounds like a "call to arms". Let's see how many take the bait.
Mike
 
Last edited:

Squib

Veteran Member
When all else fails, become ungovernable and wreck that crap all up every chance you get.

I was in a number of scraps in my life as a young man and on the job…even the ones I clearly ‘won’, left me wishing I’d never had thrown down.

Pyrrhic victory…even when you win, the cost is too high.

But, if you’re forced into it, don’t lay down and make it easy for them…
 
Top