CORP/BIZ Congress considering plan that targets women who sell products online

Buick Electra

TB2K Girls with Guns
Ladies..... those of you who sell on Ebay, Etsy or Amazon.....
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HEADS UP!
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Congress considering plan that targets women who sell products online

Congress considering plan that targets women who sell products online
[Editor's note: This story originally was published by Real Clear Policy.]

When a bipartisan group of U.S. Senators introduced The Integrity, Notification, and Fairness in Online Retail Marketplaces for Consumers (INFORM Consumers) Act at the end of March 2021, it was well received as an effort to address the growing problem of illicit goods sold online. In its current form, however, provisions in the INFORM Consumers Act would disproportionately harm women, as they make up a significant proportion of individuals who own online stores and earn income on third-party platforms.

Under the INFORM Consumers Act, a third-party vendor would be classified as a high-volume seller if they "entered into 200 more…sales or transactions" in a twelve-month period on eCommerce sites such as Etsy, Amazon, or eBay. Once classified as a high-volume seller, sellers would be forced to provide consumers with their full name, business address, information as to whether the vendor manufactures, imports, or resells products. Additionally, vendors would be forced to provide the online eCommerce platform with verified bank account information, a government-issued photo I.D., a government-issued record verifying business information, and a business tax identification number. This information must be provided within two business days. [HOLEEE CRAP!!!
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Failure to provide this information in the required timeframe would force eCommerce platforms to suspend stores, preventing them from making sales and earning additional income. The suspension would only be lifted once the owner provides the required information.


After introducing the bill, Sen. Richard Durbin (D-IL) stated, "people deserve to know basic information about those who sell them consumer products online. Our bill ensures a baseline level of transparency for online marketplaces, where currently it may be difficult to know who third-party sellers are and how to contact them." Given the profoundly harmful effects of the INFORM Consumers Act could have on their competitors, it's unsurprising that major retailers have come out in support of the plan.

While the new requirements would affect every seller on eCommerce platforms such as Etsy, eBay, and Amazon, women would be most affected as they make up the largest share of sellers on these platforms. Just on Etsy, 87% of sellers identified as women in 2019, as reported by the platform. This is more than double the number of women-owned businesses in the U.S. ECommerce platforms have helped women create businesses that not only enable them to earn income but also offer “flexibility and an outlet for their creative passions,” according to Etsy.

More importantly, Etsy reported that about half of its majority-female sellers had "never sold their goods until they sold them on Etsy," meaning eCommerce platforms have provided millions of women the opportunity to earn income outside the traditional model of 9AM to 5PM employment. The INFORM Consumers Act's heavy-handed provisions, unless revised, could ultimately force women out of platforms such as Etsy and threaten their ability to earn income and make ends meet.

Given the average seller on Etsy averages 20 sales each month, millions of female-owned small businesses could be classified as high-volume sellers and be forced to comply with the INFORM Consumers Act's provisions.
The compliance costs of the INFORM Consumers act would not only raise the cost of doing business, forcing them to raise prices, but it could also disincentivize thousands of women from starting businesses and providing consumers access to over 85 million goods.

While Congress should prioritize protecting consumers from stolen, counterfeit, and dangerous products, in its current form, the INFORM Consumers Act will inflict significant harm on women who make up an overwhelming majority of business owners on online platforms. Rather than create unnecessary burdens on these sellers that could deny them economic prosperity and financial independence, Congress should be taking legislative steps that empower platforms to root out nefarious sellers and remove them from their sites. It seems the INFORM Consumers Act may achieve this, but the collateral damage will be also significant.

(Dr. Krisztina Pusok is a Director at the American Consumer Institute and Edward Longe is a research associate at the American Consumer Institute, a nonprofit educational and research organization. For more information about the Institute, visit www.TheAmericanConsumer.org or follow us on Twitter @ConsumerPal.)
 

Sicario

The Executor
So, they are going after Independent Contractors and any other small business owner they can find.
No, they’re going after EVERYBODY who tries to make an honest living. They started with the B&M sector first through COVID, and now they’re going after the online sector. Typical Demoncrats - you can't give free shit to your cronies until you steal it from somebody else.
 
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Mprepared

Veteran Member
I started an Etsy store. I got all the legal things done. I found out you need tags on things, clothing, aprons, and anything for children. You have to have compliant fabric. You cannot make anything with flannel for children to wear unless the fabric went through flammable testing. A bib is considered clothing, so a bib can have cotton front, but not flannel. You can put flannel in the middle but not the back. The back cannot have flannel or terry cloth unless tested, so you have to find fabric that has been tested. Snaps, buttons, anything exposed a child could touch that might have lead has to be compliant. Elastic is covered so does not have to be tested, but open, it does and zippers. I see a lot of people selling things that might not be compliant. You have to make certificates of compliance for each item. You have to keep track of where you bought the fabric or other supplies. Toys and things like that, you have choking things have to be compliant. I went to a craft fair locally and asked people about all this. Most looked at me like I was nuts. They had their vendors license and knew about state tax, but nothing about this compliant thing. Most said they do not make children's clothing because of all the rules, but then had bibs and did not know they were considered children's clothing. I asked one lady about labels and she said people do not want labels on homemade things. You can go to Walmart and get things with labels. She said she bought the apron she had on from another vendor and there was not any label, so all these kinds of sellers will be shocked and hurt by this. A lot of those laws started in 2009. Another thing women should stand up and fight. They will do anything to make us slaves and keep us so busy with laws and paperwork.
 
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West

Senior
Don't forget -- once you get a tax ID number they start hitting you up for estimated future taxes too.

That's when I dropped out.

Understandable, it's one of the first fines our government puts on small business owners for being independent individuals. Not including the extra cost of compliance etc...

Of note, one can still be a owner operator of a small business and use your SS# as your identification number. But only if you have no employees. And you know how to play the game. It's a fight, but you don't need a FEINumber if you have no employees, though in some states IDK.

It's all sickening.
 

hiwall

Has No Life - Lives on TB
You can make waaay more money selling most things online over selling things face-to-face.
The down side of online sales if this bill goes through would mean all sales would have to be listed as income and even with no employees, as a small business you would have to send in quarterly taxes(or get fined each year).
Other than the tax angle I don't see much impact on sellers.
 

pauldingbabe

The Great Cat
Well then.

I want to know every aspect of where my food, medicine, everything made available to me in the same way as in the op.

As far as food goes there are are only 2 stores where you can ask for and get all of the info required as stated above. Whole Foods and Lidl. Both know from conception to table with meat, with veggies they can tell you where, how, and when.

Let's hold the same standard across the board, not just to the little guy.

Two words: black market
 

ShadowMan

Designated Grumpy Old Fart
ALL FOODS should have well displayed identification of COUNTRY OF ORIGIN, Manufacture, were Processed, were Packaged etc., etc., if different from origin. That way I have a choice to support AMERICAN producers vice some foreign source. If I don't want to consume ANYTHING that has anything to do with CHINA or any other Communist country or enemy of our nation I should have that choice.

We don't have that choice now, and considering that American consumers could be facing American raised chicken & pork will be PROCESSED IN CHINA and then shipped back for Americans to consume?!?! American trees are being PROCESSED IN CHINA into lumber and then shipped back to the U.S. NO - NO - NO - NO!!
 
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SpokaneMan

Veteran Member
Fine. No more tax dollars for those assholes. I swear that every member of Congress never learned a thing about economics. They will end up sinking themselves with even less tax revenue. When does the stupid stop? We are now beyond fascism and going full steam ahead to commie world. You just can't fix stupid or mental illness. Go ahead ladies. Keep selling your products under cash basis. Do your thing without government approval!
 

West

Senior
You can make waaay more money selling most things online over selling things face-to-face.
The down side of online sales if this bill goes through would mean all sales would have to be listed as income and even with no employees, as a small business you would have to send in quarterly taxes(or get fined each year).
Other than the tax angle I don't see much impact on sellers.

So if this bill passes, as you said "all sales would become income"?

Would mean the only way one could be in business is to be a corporation and then you will also have a FEINumber, and that's is extra cost, plus even more $$$ and time to stay in compliance.

Uhg....what a bunch of steaming BS!
 

Buick Electra

TB2K Girls with Guns
I bout fell out reading this part....

sellers would be forced to provide consumers with their full name, business address, information as to whether the vendor manufactures, imports, or resells products.

so, if you're selling MAGA stuff or Christian stuff and a DEMONcrat notices your inventory, next thing you know you have Antifa or BLM at your door (if your business is in your house) throwing pigs blood all over everything because they know you're conservative.
 

Faroe

Un-spun
We had sidewalk sales in our little town today. Nobody cared if you did or didn't wear a mask. Lots of food vendors - I highly doubt it was all liscensed. Pottery, crafts, quilts, jewelry, etc. I'm sure cash was preferred, but they did take my credit card.

Was chatting with a potter there, and mentioned that I had once wanted to get into the craft, but the price of the wheel, the kiln, even running the kiln put me off. He said the coffee mugs sales were his way of funding the hobby, and paying for the more artistic ceramics that he really liked to do.

I've noticed that with aquariums and the vivarium people. On-line sales of plants, fish, supplies via e-Bay, Etsy, Aquabid, Kingsnake.com, etc., are how they fund their hobbies. YouTube is the other income stream - wouldn't surprise me if these meddling and thieving Karens decide to require a license and permit for that too. Bastards. eff'em.
 
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packyderms_wife

Neither here nor there.
Fine. No more tax dollars for those assholes. I swear that every member of Congress never learned a thing about economics. They will end up sinking themselves with even less tax revenue. When does the stupid stop? We are now beyond fascism and going full steam ahead to commie world. You just can't fix stupid or mental illness. Go ahead ladies. Keep selling your products under cash basis. Do your thing without government approval!

Why would they know anything about economics, most of them have never held a real job in their lives.
 

hiwall

Has No Life - Lives on TB
If you now sell merchandise and ship USPS, your name and address are already on the shipping label so anyone you sell/ship to has that info.
 

subnet

Boot
I bout fell out reading this part....



so, if you're selling MAGA stuff or Christian stuff and a DEMONcrat notices your inventory, next thing you know you have Antifa or BLM at your door (if your business is in your house) throwing pigs blood all over everything because they know you're conservative.
It could be dealt with...no one really has yet though.
 

rob0126

Veteran Member
Understandable, it's one of the first fines our government puts on small business owners for being independent individuals. Not including the extra cost of compliance etc...

Of note, one can still be a owner operator of a small business and use your SS# as your identification number. But only if you have no employees. And you know how to play the game. It's a fight, but you don't need a FEINumber if you have no employees, though in some states IDK.

It's all sickening.

When I sold on ebay, I didn't have to have a business license.
Of course, I didn't deal in high volume either. (Maybe 5-10 sales a month)

Making a profit on ebay is hard enough, but with this garbage, it would be even harder.

I understand some of the bill would be legit, to weed out the scammers, but requiring business licenses is the real reason here.

This is just another way to milk more hard earned money(labor) from anyone who tries to make a side living.
 

West

Senior
So, when do we stop being a capitalist nation and slide into one of the "-isms"?

The independent merchant has all but disappeared. BY GOVERNMENT MANDATE.

Not yelling, but just had to add my beef, so I'll feel better.

Good post^^^^
 

West

Senior
When I sold on ebay, I didn't have to have a business license.
Of course, I didn't deal in high volume either. (Maybe 5-10 sales a month)

Making a profit on ebay is hard enough, but with this garbage, it would be even harder.

I understand some of the bill would be legit, to weed out the scammers, but requiring business licenses is the real reason here.

This is just another way to milk more hard earned money(labor) from anyone who tries to make a side living.

Not just a "side living", but also becoming independent individuals.

That's is exactly what TPTB don't want. And have been enforcing dependency by government mandate since the new deal.
 

West

Senior
Gee I thought you said MEXICAN. My bad

Yeah, he said "profits" small businesses don't make profits if they can help it. That's school of hard knocks.

If he/she understood what small businesses do with profit is to pay our bills to stay in business (ie business expenses), then he/she would know that.

No if Tex, comes back and says that I (we) should not be in business if we don't make a profit, then that would be the proof in the pudding that Tex has no idea.

It's all good though. IDGAF.
 

Countrymouse

Country exile in the city
So, they are going after Independent Contractors and any other small business owner they can find.


Add this to what they're doing to the little folks trying to make a little living on Uber, Lyft, and Door Dash, and YEP, I'd say that's what they're doing.

We're all supposed to WORK FOR THE GOVT., doncha know---thru that GUARANTEED WAGE........

That's how communism works, after all---everyone becomes the property of the GOVERNMENT
 
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