CORONA CDC sued for massive fraud: Tests at 7 universities of 1500 people examined showed that they did not have Covid, but just Influenza A or B
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pauldingbabe
The Great Cat
Whem one Questions everything it sets one away from the 'Norm'.
My family is Conservative, does not mean they question what they hear from other Conservatives sources. Only takes one 'Believer' to insert something into the Stream and it gets taken up by many and spread without Question.
Border Collie Dad
Flat Earther
European dating system
bev
Has No Life - Lives on TB
NOT faulting you, somewherepress, but This OP is at the top of my list of the worst-written articles ever posted on TB or that I’ve ever read on the interwebs. Here’s one example...
“About the for this purpose scientifically totally debunked, but still shamelessly abused PCR test, the CDC wrote under the heading ‘limitations’: ‘The detection of viral RNA cannot demonstrate the presence of an infectious virus, or that 2019-nCoV is the causative
agent of clinical symptoms.’”
I must have read that first part at least 4-5 times before I figured out what it meant!
It would actually be fun to try to diagram this.
“About the for this purpose scientifically totally debunked, but still shamelessly abused PCR test, the CDC wrote under the heading ‘limitations’: ‘The detection of viral RNA cannot demonstrate the presence of an infectious virus, or that 2019-nCoV is the causative
agent of clinical symptoms.’”
I must have read that first part at least 4-5 times before I figured out what it meant!
It would actually be fun to try to diagram this.
Meadowlark
Has No Life - Lives on TB
Of course its a hoax. I gigantic crock of shite. Its just a worse than normal flu bug with a death rate of less than 1%, predominantly affecting the elderly and an unlucky few.
Meadowlark
Has No Life - Lives on TB
ditto, most of the rest of the world list day month and year. We list the date as month day and year because we have to be different.
155 arty
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And military
155 arty
Veteran Member
We always dated things this way 19 Nov 1984
TammyinWI
Talk is cheap
In all seriousness, did you see it under a microscope?
There are so many things bombarding the human body now, and so many meds that cause side effects. It is all so complex, too many people with more than one ailments, and the PTB are able to make so many false claims, it is very disheartening and depressing.
The human life span started to decrease before they announced their "plannedemic." They tried to start a pandemic before this one, but failed.
You can trust me!!!!
Really its a creampuff driven by a little old lady on Sundays to go to church, provably should charge more but for because I like you I got a special deal.
So today only if you just sign over all your God given rights I will give you prosperity forever and perpetual health, or if you read the very small legal disclaimer war, famine pestilence and billionaire overlords.
Old Gringo
Senior Member
Easy to become a "flat earther" once you accept the fact that the sun circles the earth generating little covid entities.
TKO
Veteran Member
Sounds like a "Johnny Bravo". Covid fit the suit at the time.
Laboratories in US can't find Covid-19 in one of 1,500 positive tests
CDC sued for massive fraud: Tests at 7 universities of ALL people examined showed that they did not have Covid, but just Influenza A or B.greatreject.org
Laboratories in US can’t find Covid-19 in one of 1,500 positive tests
BY GREATREJECT · 11/04/2021
CDC sued for massive fraud: Tests at 7 universities of ALL people examined showed that they did not have Covid, but just Influenza A or B – EU statistics: ‘Corona’ virtually disappeared, even under mortality.
A clinical scientist and immunologist-virologist at a southern California laboratory says he and colleagues from 7 universities are suing the CDC for massive fraud. The reason: not one of 1500 samples of people tested “positive” could find Covid-19. ALL people were simply found to have Influenza A, and to a lesser extent Influenza B. This is consistent with the previous findings of other scientists, which we have reported on several times.
Dr. Derek Knauss: “When my lab team and I subjected the 1500 supposedly positive Covid-19 samples to Koch’s postulates and put them under an SEM (electron microscope), we found NO Covid in all 1500 samples. We found that all 1500 samples were primarily Influenza A, and some Influenza B, but no cases of Covid. We did not use the bulls*** PCR test.’
At 7 universities not once COVID detected
‘When we sent the rest of the samples to Stanford, Cornell, and a couple of the labs at the University of California, they came up with the same result: NO COVID. They found Influenza A and B. Then we all asked the CDC for viable samples of Covid. The CDC said they can’t give them, because they don’t have those samples.’
‘So we came to the hard conclusion through all our research and lab work that Covid-19 was imaginary and fictitious. The flu was only called ‘Covid,’ and most of the 225,000 deaths were from co-morbidities such as heart disease, cancer, diabetes, pulmonary emphysema, etc.. They got the flu which further weakened their immune systems, and they died.’
‘This virus is fictitious’
‘I still need to find one viable sample with Covid-19 to work with. We who conducted the lab test with these 1500 samples at the 7 universities are now suing the CDC for Covid-19 fraud. The CDC still has not sent us a viable, isolated and purified sample of Covid-19. If they can’t or won’t, then I say there is no Covid-19. It’s fictional.’
‘The four research papers describing the genome extracts of the Covid-19 virus never managed to isolate and purify the samples. All four papers describe only small pieces of RNA that are only 37 to 40 base pairs long. That is NOT a VIRUS. A viral genome normally has 30,000 to 40,000 base pairs.’
‘Now that Covid-19 is supposedly so bad everywhere, how come not one lab in the world has completely isolated and purified this virus? That’s because they never really found the virus. All they ever discovered were small pieces of RNA that were not identified as the virus anyway. So what we’re dealing with is just another flu strain, just like every year. Covid-19 does not exist and is fictitious.’
‘I believe that China and the globalists have set up this Covid hoax (the flu disguised as a new virus) to establish a global tyranny and totalitarian control police state. This intrigue included (also) massive election fraud to overthrow Trump.’
CDC itself admits to having no identifiable virus
Deeply hidden in an official document on Covid-19, the CDC ruefully admitted as early as summer 2020 that it does not have a measurable virus: ‘As no quantified (= measured) isolated virus objects of 2019-nCoV are available at this time…’ (page 39 of the ‘CDC 2019-Novel Coronavirus (2019-nCoV) Real-Time RT-PCR Diagnostic Panel’ (July 13) In other words, the CDC, as one of THE leading medical authorities in the world, could not, and still cannot, demonstrate a virus.
About the for this purpose scientifically totally debunked, but still shamelessly abused PCR test, the CDC wrote under the heading ‘limitations’: ‘The detection of viral RNA cannot demonstrate the presence of an infectious virus, or that 2019-nCoV is the causative
agent of clinical symptoms.’ And in addition: ‘This test cannot exclude other diseases caused by other bacterial or viral pathogens.’
In other words, we cannot prove that the people who get sick and are hospitalized, and very occasionally die, were sickened by a new coronavirus called SARS-CoV-2, nor can we prove that it caused them to develop a new disease called ‘Covid-19.’ It could just as easily be a different virus and a different disease. (And since all the symptoms, including severe pneumonia, correspond seamlessly to what flu can cause historically in vulnerable people… ‘if it looks like a duck and walks like a duck, it is a duck’.
Reward of $265,000 for demonstrating coronavirus
Earlier this year, Samuel Eckert’s German Team and the Isolate Truth Fund pledged a reward of at least $265,000 for any scientist who can provide incontrovertible proof that the SARS-CoV-2 virus has been isolated and therefore exists. They too pointed out that not one lab in the world has yet been able to isolate this corona virus.
Yes, systems scientists claim they have, but this ‘isolation’ consists only of a sample from the human body, which is a ‘soup’ full of different kinds of cells, remains of viruses, bacteria, et cetera. With the help of (toxic) chemicals one then searches for some (residual) particles that may indicate a virus that once existed or may still exist, after which this is designated as ‘evidence’.
Canadian team also received no evidence despite 40 Public Access Law requests
In late December 2020 there was a similar initiative to the one in Germany. A team around Canadian investigative journalist Christine Massey submitted no less than 40 Public Access Law requests to medical authorities worldwide with the simple request for proof that the SARS-CoV-2 virus has been isolated and its existence can therefore be objectively proven. Not one of the agencies and authorities written to was able to provide that evidence.
‘Impossible to demonstrate that SARS-CoV-2 causes a disease called Covid-19’
Dr. Tom Cowan, Dr. Andrew Kaufman and Sally Fallon Morell recently published a statement on “the continuing controversy over whether the SARS-CoV-2 virus is isolated or purified. But based on the official Oxford definition of “isolation” (“the fact or condition of being isolated or secluded, a separation from other things or persons, standing alone”), common sense, the laws of logic and the rules of science dictate that any unbiased person must come to the conclusion that the SARS-CoV-2 virus has never been isolated or purified. As a result, no confirmation of the existence of the virus can be given.’
‘The logical and scientific implications of this fact are that the structure and composition of something whose existence cannot be proven cannot be known, including the presence, structure and function of hypothetical spike or other proteins. The genetic sequence of something that has never been found cannot be known, nor can the “variants” (mutations) of something whose existence has not been demonstrated. It is therefore impossible to show that SARS-CoV-2 causes a disease called Covid-19.’
Combined PCR test for corona and influenza ‘because there’s hardly any difference’
Not surprisingly, the world’s largest biotech company, China’s BGI, recently launched a new PCR test that can simultaneously test for influenza A, B and corona. Apart from the proven fact, acknowledged trough various lawsuits, that a PCR test cannot prove infection with any virus whatsoever, BGI’s explanation that both diseases are so difficult to distinguish from each other and that they have therefore made only one test, says more than enough. Maybe there IS no difference at all, ‘Covid’ is just another name for ‘old familiar’ flu viruses, and this is just another clever marketing trick?
Most people have been fooled by fear propaganda
With worldwide, government-controlled 24/7 fear propaganda by the mass media, most people have come to believe that there is indeed a life-threatening virus that makes people sick much faster and more severely than seasonal flu. However, even the latter is demonstrably not the case. Influenza A has been the leading cause of death from pneumonia in the developed world for years.
But send people designated as severe Covid patients to a few ICU’s, put cameras on them constantly, instruct a few physicians that they should only discuss the worst cases, and you have your “televised pandemic. The argument ‘we are doing it because otherwise care will be overburdened’ was undermined by governments itself some time ago, by rejecting offers of additional ICU beds or staff, because ‘it is not necessary’. (Was this perhaps the first and only time the truth was told?)
Official figures: nothing to worry about (yet it never gets back to normal)
Now that also the official figures show that after the normal traditional flu season nothing is wrong, and according to the EU statistics (EuroMOMO) there is even a significant lower mortality, the society – if it really was about a virus and public health – should immediately go back to normal to start repairing the huge damage caused by government policies.
However, as you know, that will never be done, and that is because this carefully planned pandemic hoax is carrying out an ideological agenda, the ‘Great Reset’, which aims to largely demolish the society and economy of the West, and then subject it to a global technocratic communist climate-vaccine dictatorship, in which all our freedoms, civil and self-determination rights will be done away with once and for all.
At least that was their plan.
If it is not real, what is the agenda behind those who don't believe it?
But I can completely understand a nefarious agenda behind those who are pushing it.
If they had even a tiny bit of credibility - it was gone after they stole the election.
tech
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Many countries show date in that format... dd/mm/yy
Knoxville's Joker
Has No Life - Lives on TB
This is the stuff they have been hiding that they are not able to hide anymore. The scientific community is getting into an uproar as basically draconian dictators or wannabe dictators are using this bad science and technology to make unreasonable changes to society and the actual scientists that have no interest in politics and only want to focus on the actual science and technology are cringing and saying no more this has to stop. You can not silence a growing group of scientists that actually use science are following the scientific process in a reliable and replicatable manner and are concluding some things are utter malarkey.
These scientists are the ones that will either get offed, kicked out of their scientific communities, or otherwise silenced if they want to keep putting up this lie. They are also the ones that will end up dethroning entrenched politicians and beaurecrats if they survive long enough to testify that lies were told to justify draconian actions.
But given everything I have half a mind to print that article out and keep it on hand when people want to argue about following the science and countering, well now that you mention it the tests we are using are not working and you are believing a lie.
I am finding that articles and sites like this are disappearing as fast as they appear. The speed with which things are getting scrubbed is absolutely mind boggling.
Thank goodness for sites like this that actually have archives of this stuff and some search ability to locate some of the more arcane facts that come in handy from time to time.
These scientists are the ones that will either get offed, kicked out of their scientific communities, or otherwise silenced if they want to keep putting up this lie. They are also the ones that will end up dethroning entrenched politicians and beaurecrats if they survive long enough to testify that lies were told to justify draconian actions.
But given everything I have half a mind to print that article out and keep it on hand when people want to argue about following the science and countering, well now that you mention it the tests we are using are not working and you are believing a lie.
I am finding that articles and sites like this are disappearing as fast as they appear. The speed with which things are getting scrubbed is absolutely mind boggling.
Thank goodness for sites like this that actually have archives of this stuff and some search ability to locate some of the more arcane facts that come in handy from time to time.
"Their goal was a coup coupled with an extermination program. "
Strictly speaking, I think the goal was to take a common/typical flu and propagandize it to infinity for political results. And they were successful. Probably more successful than they dreamed of. As for being an extermination program, nah, not with a 99.7 or 99.9% recovery rate. All this bio-weapon talk is a fairly good emotional distraction from the actual intent, IMO.
the original article sound quite like the writings of Jon Rappoport, who at face value sound slightly extreme, but maybe not. There are some points in this article that are most certainly valid and if nothing else, the overall tone of it is quite valid.
I must keep thinking of who designed this Event, managed it, and is till running it. Coordinated on a worldwide basis and more effective than 911 by orders of magnitude. From what I've read it points at the World Economic Forum and the UN. Somewhere under the darkness there have to be money trails that go up the ladder as far a the sky.
Shoot Quomo and the rest of the govt aholes, but they are the periphery scum.
I must keep thinking of who designed this Event, managed it, and is till running it. Coordinated on a worldwide basis and more effective than 911 by orders of magnitude. From what I've read it points at the World Economic Forum and the UN. Somewhere under the darkness there have to be money trails that go up the ladder as far a the sky.
Shoot Quomo and the rest of the govt aholes, but they are the periphery scum.
BadMedicine
Would *I* Lie???
The extermination part is in the vaxx....
THAT I would not disbelieve.
intothatgoodnight
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May I remind folks that Melania's maiden surname was "Knauss."
Melania Knauss Trump.
FWIW
intothegoodnight
intothatgoodnight
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"We have met the enemy, and he is us." (late Walt Kelly, creator of the "Pogo" comic strip.)
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pauldingbabe
The Great Cat
We now might be able to know why so many scientists have been killed or disappeared in the not so recent past. Perhaps they may have been willing to blow the whistle on the set up and rollout of all this mess
night driver
ESFP adrift in INTJ sea
Honest, I luv ya all, but when YOUR science is not accurate your takes lose their validity.
First off, COVID-19 is NOT AN INFLUENZA VIRUS. the two aren't even CLOSE on the evolutionary tree.
Corona viri are single strand DNA viri.
Influenza viri are double strand viri.
THAT is just to start.
I can't argue that the USE of COVID has been a shitshow "How to screw the People of the world" and "How to steal People's rights" explained.
Yes, we were had, using a not QUITE as fatal-as-requested-from-the-factory virus. Fauci really SHOULD burn for his part in this mess, since his ORDER was for an ENHANCEMENT OF FUNCTION from Wuhan.
Lets all get OUR science right if we're denigrating the Powers science.
First off, COVID-19 is NOT AN INFLUENZA VIRUS. the two aren't even CLOSE on the evolutionary tree.
Corona viri are single strand DNA viri.
Influenza viri are double strand viri.
THAT is just to start.
I can't argue that the USE of COVID has been a shitshow "How to screw the People of the world" and "How to steal People's rights" explained.
Yes, we were had, using a not QUITE as fatal-as-requested-from-the-factory virus. Fauci really SHOULD burn for his part in this mess, since his ORDER was for an ENHANCEMENT OF FUNCTION from Wuhan.
Lets all get OUR science right if we're denigrating the Powers science.
intothatgoodnight
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Was thinking similar - recall the more than several virologists and bio-research scientists that were said to have been Arkansided, back in the early 2000s. Could their alleged deaths have been related to the 2020 COVID pandemic-population control rollout?
intothegoodnight
Knoxville's Joker
Has No Life - Lives on TB
usually those folks end up on the wrong side of the conspiracy and are too vocal or at risk of spilling the beans. In all honesty with all the guns floating around now and all the paranoia I am thinking these sort of offings are going to become more difficult and expensive...
Profit of Doom
Dismember
I think he should be facing crimes against humanity for that and dissing HCQ. We could tag him for 100,000 deaths easily.
Science. the intellectual and practical activity encompassing the systematic study of the structure and behavior of the physical and natural world through observation and experiment.
If the data involving the outcome of corona and other causes of death are mingled in such a way that no practical systematic study of the structure and behavior of corona is achievable, then science has been hijacked and fraud has taken it place.
Corona, as perpetrated by the government IS without question fraudulent. This fraud makes any vaccine, therapeutic, or recommendation suspect.
If the data involving the outcome of corona and other causes of death are mingled in such a way that no practical systematic study of the structure and behavior of corona is achievable, then science has been hijacked and fraud has taken it place.
Corona, as perpetrated by the government IS without question fraudulent. This fraud makes any vaccine, therapeutic, or recommendation suspect.
TheSearcher
Are you sure about that?
To whom were you responding? What posting information did you find objectionable?
inskanoot
Veteran Member
There’s talk about using the mRNA tech for non-COVID injections.
ChicagoMan74
ULTRA MAGA
I find it interesting that this Dr. Derick Knauss or Dr. Derek Knauss doesn't seem to exist.....outside of this article.
BUT don't let that interrupt the party.
Carry on.
BUT don't let that interrupt the party.
Carry on.
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PghPanther
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I have a problem when extraordinary claims are town barked on the internet when they steer off course in their intent.
What I mean is a statement is made that is extraordinary in the case of the medical evidence or facts that are claimed with covid......okay fine so show me the evidence against that and then make your claims of what is really going on with the virus.
But too many of these kinds of articles do that but its seem only for the purpose of then getting into the meat of the issue of what their intent ends up of being some eite boogie men hiding behind every lie as fact with covid ready to destroy your life and society.........
Look.......I get the elite don't like us......
......but if you are trying to validate whether a virus or the reaction to it is real or not stay on the subject of just that and don't come running to me say if A (covid situation) is wrong then it automatically resorts to B (elite malicious intent) is the reason why A isn't what we think it is.
When you do that it makes me think B is only what you want to bark about and your reporting of A is suspect to being a path of confirmation bias to get to B.
Just tell me about A and if you have a case for that........
then I'll decide if there is a connection to B.........but to jump right into B makes me think you want to formulate anything in A just to get to B..........
and that leaves me skeptical to the intent of just why an article brings the whole thing up to begin with.
What I mean is a statement is made that is extraordinary in the case of the medical evidence or facts that are claimed with covid......okay fine so show me the evidence against that and then make your claims of what is really going on with the virus.
But too many of these kinds of articles do that but its seem only for the purpose of then getting into the meat of the issue of what their intent ends up of being some eite boogie men hiding behind every lie as fact with covid ready to destroy your life and society.........
Look.......I get the elite don't like us......
......but if you are trying to validate whether a virus or the reaction to it is real or not stay on the subject of just that and don't come running to me say if A (covid situation) is wrong then it automatically resorts to B (elite malicious intent) is the reason why A isn't what we think it is.
When you do that it makes me think B is only what you want to bark about and your reporting of A is suspect to being a path of confirmation bias to get to B.
Just tell me about A and if you have a case for that........
then I'll decide if there is a connection to B.........but to jump right into B makes me think you want to formulate anything in A just to get to B..........
and that leaves me skeptical to the intent of just why an article brings the whole thing up to begin with.
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subnet
Boot
Not saying he is a hoax or not...but search engines are completely manipulated at this point and are scrubbed clean or the information buried 30 pages deep, of things that don't fit the narrative.
Did anyone follow the blind link to BPA-Pathology?
Looks legit to me and supports some of whats been said all along.
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Microsoft Forms Ministry of Truth (7min)
Mar 2, 2021
Reading Microsoft's latest press release from their blog.
Ministry of truth run by these anti American globalists? No thanks! An organization backed with millions of dollars from liberal billionaires Bill Gates and George Soros has launched a commission led by radical liberals to fight “mis- and disinformation
View: https://twitter.com/SupportUSA4/status/1377973603505963008
MinnesotaSmith
Membership Revoked
Related:
www.powerlineblog.com
APRIL 22, 2021 BY JOHN HINDERAKER
COVID IS NOW SAVING LIVES
"More specifically, fewer people are now dying than would have been the case had there been no Wuhan epidemic. As one doctor colorfully put it, the people who die from covid are generally those who had one foot in the grave and the other on a banana peel. I have spent some time studying covid death certificates (i.e., certificates that have the word “covid” somewhere on them), and I agree: when you look at the conditions from which most covid victims suffered, it seems remarkable that they were still alive.
What this means is that most of those who have died with covid on their death certificates would have passed away before long in any event. There were, indeed, a significant number of excess deaths over demographic predictions in the U.S. in 2020. But it seems that absent covid, most of those people would have died some months, or perhaps a year or two, later. If that hypothesis is correct, we should see a lower than demographically predicted death rate over the next year or two.
And, in fact, that is what is happening. This chart, showing total mortality in the U.S., is from the CDC web site. It shows that during 2020, a larger number of Americans than predicted died. It also shows that the mortality rate is currently plummeting, and we have entered the zone where total deaths are fewer than they would normally be. So in a sense, those Wuhan deaths are now being made up:
It is too bad when a severely ailing 85-year-old doesn’t live to be 86. But the fact that we have devastated the lives of our young people over the Wuhan epidemic is a crime."
Covid Is Now Saving Lives
More specifically, fewer people are now dying than would have been the case had there been no Wuhan epidemic. As one doctor colorfully put it, the people who die from covid are generally those who had one foot in the grave and the other on a banana peel. I have spent some time studying covid...
www.powerlineblog.com
APRIL 22, 2021 BY JOHN HINDERAKER
COVID IS NOW SAVING LIVES
"More specifically, fewer people are now dying than would have been the case had there been no Wuhan epidemic. As one doctor colorfully put it, the people who die from covid are generally those who had one foot in the grave and the other on a banana peel. I have spent some time studying covid death certificates (i.e., certificates that have the word “covid” somewhere on them), and I agree: when you look at the conditions from which most covid victims suffered, it seems remarkable that they were still alive.
What this means is that most of those who have died with covid on their death certificates would have passed away before long in any event. There were, indeed, a significant number of excess deaths over demographic predictions in the U.S. in 2020. But it seems that absent covid, most of those people would have died some months, or perhaps a year or two, later. If that hypothesis is correct, we should see a lower than demographically predicted death rate over the next year or two.
And, in fact, that is what is happening. This chart, showing total mortality in the U.S., is from the CDC web site. It shows that during 2020, a larger number of Americans than predicted died. It also shows that the mortality rate is currently plummeting, and we have entered the zone where total deaths are fewer than they would normally be. So in a sense, those Wuhan deaths are now being made up:
It is too bad when a severely ailing 85-year-old doesn’t live to be 86. But the fact that we have devastated the lives of our young people over the Wuhan epidemic is a crime."
MinnesotaSmith
Membership Revoked
Apparently, the Chinavirus has wiped out influenza in the U.S.:
