INTL China in Anchorage today

AlaskaSue

North to the Future
Not off to a great start in Anchorage Alaska today ~ kind of curious though...did any of you know this was going on today? And does it matter???? ;)

View: https://twitter.com/kaylatausche/status/1372712280266313733?s=20

Tonight, a four-minute planned photo op in Anchorage turned into a 1hr 15-min spat where US, Chinese diplomats criticized the others' record on democracy. A US official says the Beijing delegation "seems to have arrived intent on grandstanding." (via
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View: https://twitter.com/JenniferJJacobs/status/1372673639741587456?s=20

frosty opening to Biden delegation mtg with China. US is the champion of cyber attacks, doesn't represent global public opinion, and has history of killing blacks, Yang Jiechi tells @JakeSullivan46 and @SecBlinken. Yang says their opening remarks weren’t normal; mine neither.

The Secretary of State is in town to meet the Chinese delegation in Anchorage today. They brought an A330-200 and Secretary Blinken came in a C-32. A C-40 is here too.
View: https://twitter.com/Fiicaan/status/1372641240253034497?s=20
 

AlfaMan

Has No Life - Lives on TB
I heard the first meeting was a total Charlie foxtrot. Nothing but jabs and accusations with probably tongues being stuck out at each other. It's a TOTAL plane crash with global implications.
Our new sec state is incompetent and we don't have any adults in the WH giving marching orders.
 

cleobc

Veteran Member
Maybe we'll get lucky and China will decide to insult our cyber security and point out how they stole 12 million votes. And maybe they'll decide they don't want to annex Alaska and will leave it for the Russians.
 

AlaskaSue

North to the Future
Wow, the Biden .gov is really not starting out with too great a foreign policy. First Biden calls Putin 'a killer' and then the Chinese insult the US roundly on US soil. Hope someone else is noticing, because this kind of thing can lead to wars, big wars.
Yep, my friend....really keeps us on our knees before our Lord because this is getting a bit serious.
 

Walrus

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This whole bit of kabuki theater was probably pre-arranged so Xiao could show some backbone instead of just being rolled again. It appears he got rolled anyway.
 

marsh

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‘The US Does Not Have the Qualification to Speak to China From a Position of Strength’ – China’s Top Diplomat Humiliates Biden’s Team on American Soil (VIDEO)

By Cristina Laila
Published March 19, 2021 at 11:02am
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Biden’s team was humiliated by China’s envoy on the world stage – on American soil.

Secretary of State Antony Blinken and National Security adviser Jake Sullivan met with China’s top diplomat Yang Jiechi and State Councilor Wang Yi in Anchorage, Alaska on Thursday.

Blinken’s meeting with China’s top diplomat quickly went south on Thursday evening.

Each delegation had two minutes for opening statements by each principal.

Blinken opened the conversation with a public rebuke of China’s cyberattacks and aggression in the region.

“We will … discuss our deep concerns with actions by China, including in Xinjiang, Hong Kong, Taiwan, cyber attacks on the United States, economic coercion of our allies,” Blinken said in a public rebuke, according to Reuters.

“Each of these actions threaten the rules-based order that maintains global stability,” Blinken said.

China’s delegation violated the two-minute protocol and went on a 20-minute tirade, lecturing Blinken and Sullivan.

In talking points that mirror the Democrat party, the Chinese diplomat blasted the US for ‘poor treatment of blacks’ and told Blinken the US should handle its own affairs and China its own.

Then Yang dropped this gem:

“The United States does not have the qualification to say that it wants to speak to China from a position of strength,” Yang said right to Blinken’s face.

Blinken and Sullivan sat there like a couple of stunned amateurs and took the lashing.

WATCH:
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Warroom Pandemic Ep. 810 China Humiliates Compromised Biden Regime 48:56 min
 

marsh

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Joe Biden Says He is “Proud” of Secretary of State Blinken For Being Humiliated by Chinese Envoy on American Soil (VIDEO)

By Cristina Laila
Published March 19, 2021 at 1:34p
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Joe Biden Friday morning was asked about Secretary of State Antony Blinken’s meeting with China’s top diplomat in Anchorage, Alaska.

“What’s your reaction to China last night?” a reporter asked Biden before he boarded Marine One on the South Lawn.

“I’m very proud of the Secretary of State,” Biden said.

WATCH:
View: https://twitter.com/i/status/1372938030877659137
1:18 min

Joe Biden is proud of Antony Blinken for being humiliated by China’s envoy on the world stage – on American soil.

Secretary of State Antony Blinken and National Security adviser Jake Sullivan met with China’s top diplomat Yang Jiechi and State Councilor Wang Yi in Anchorage, Alaska on Thursday.

Blinken’s meeting with China’s top diplomat quickly went south on Thursday evening.
The meeting devolved into bickering and an exchange of barbs, but China’s delegation destroyed Biden’s team of amateurs.

“The United States does not have the qualification to say that it wants to speak to China from a position of strength,” Yang said right to Blinken’s face.

Blinken and Sullivan sat there like a couple of stunned amateurs and took the lashing.
Blinken licking China’s boot made Beijing Biden “proud.”
 

marsh

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President Trump Had China on the Ropes But Now Biden Gang Jumps into China’s Corner and Still Gets Pummeled

By Joe Hoft
Published March 19, 2021 at 2:00pm
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For years China was able to do what it wanted with the US. This was due to politicians like Obama and ‘China Joe’ Biden who made millions from China.

Then came President Trump who destroyed China economically and had them on the ropes. Now Obama/Biden are back to being embarrassed by China.


Last night China humiliated the Biden gang in Alaska. They know they are way ahead of the Biden Administration. It was embarrassing as China went on for 18 minutes sharing beliefs critical of the US. They know the US has a weak Administration who stole the 2020 election and they can do whatever they want with this group of misfits:


We previously reported over the past two years how China’s economy was collapsing. There were many signs of China’s pending economic collapse.

The BBC reported in January 2020 before the China coronavirus spread around the world that official China figures were scary:
China’s economy grew last year at the slowest pace in almost three decades.
Official figures show that the world’s second largest economy expanded by 6.1% in 2019 from the year before – the worst figure in 29 years.
The country has faced weak domestic demand and the impact of the bitter trade war with the US.

The government has been rolling out measures over the past two years in an attempt to boost growth.

It comes after almost two years of trade tensions with the US – although hopes of a better relationship with America have seen improvements in manufacturing and business confidence data.
We’d reported for months that President Trump had the US in the position that it could only win in a deal with China. The US economy was on fire – more Americans were working than ever before, unemployment was at 50-year lows, wages were way up and the stock market was at record highs. But China was moving in the opposite direction.

The problem for China was that its economy helped the CCP regime stay in power and it was collapsing. China needed a deal with the US. China had invested millions in deals around the world and it had overbuilt at home. Then President Trump came and slowly moved business from China to other countries through various actions including tariffs.

China’s GDP was reduced to almost half of that of the US and it was in real economic trouble.

As we reported in a post in August 2019, President Trump recognized that China was in an all-out war with the US in regards to information and economics. For years Western leaders did nothing but negotiate into weak positions, never standing up to the Communist Chinese regime. Former US Presidents treated China like they did Russia 50 years ago, as their superior, always giving them what they wanted and never standing up to their abuse and criminal acts.

President Trump knew that China needed the US but the US didn’t need China.
President Trump preached manufacturing in the USA and trade deals that made sense.

We posted a video from former Trump Chief Strategist Steve Bannon regarding China. He discussed how China was in an economic war with the US. He said America was losing until President Trump. Then he added this:
Well here’s the game and right now we are converging on a point and they understand this. We could take the whole thing down. We can take, the whole thing’s built on a house of sand…

If they [China] devalue their currency they are just going to flood more out. They got $3 trillion of reserves and trust me, in a New York second that thing would flood out in a second. That’s what their own people think about their economy. We’ve allowed these guys to push us around. We’ve allowed these guys to take the South China Sea…

This trade war is going to end in victory and what you’re going to see is a reorientation of the entire supply chain out of China…
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Bannon was right. He said that China was at war with the US. He said this war had been going on for 20 years and had three fronts: informational, economic, and kinetic (i.e. guns).

We reported in May 2019 that just like the US in 2008, a perfect storm was building in China. The excessive and extravagant construction projects, cash-flow challenges and lack of demand in China all could combine for a major financial disaster.

A financial meltdown was in the works in China.

Over the past few decades, China opened its borders, and corporations around the world fled to China due to its cheap capital and meager payroll costs.

The Chinese were relentless in their efforts to obtain Western technology and grow their economy. They set up trade barriers and manipulated their currency in ways that helped China. The US was at a disadvantage in trade resulting in massive deficits in the billions.

Along came the Trump Administration, the first administration to address China’s unfair trade advantage. The timing of Trump’s tariffs was not good for China as there were more pressing issues that had to be addressed.

The more pressing issues for China surround real estate, in a manner similar to the US in 2008. As China grew, it invested in its infrastructure, and in addition, it invested in large housing projects throughout the country. These efforts helped bolster China’s already fast-growing economy.

The problem was that China overinvested in these random properties all over China and these properties today remain empty.

(See below pictures of real estate projects in the middle of China (Hubei Province) – massive but mostly empty.)

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Joe Hoft photos

There simply are not enough people in the area where these massive complexes were built that make enough money to afford living in these communities. It appears that the Chinese communists’ misunderstanding of supply and demand economics was their downfall.

Some say, no problem, China will just move all the peasants to these massive complexes but this would be devastating. First of all, China needs to feed the people in these complexes.

Secondly, as we have learned in the US, people on the dole with no work tend to get involved in drugs and crime. The human spirit needs a purpose – idle hands are the devil’s workshop!

These many properties throughout China still sit unoccupied, and there is a cost to this. Bloomberg reported in September 2018 about China –
Cash-to-short-term debt levels at more than 80 publicly traded real estate companies tracked by Bloomberg were 133 percent on average in the first half, the worst since the first six months of 2015 and down from 297 percent a year earlier. Almost a quarter of developers sport a ratio below 50 percent.
In addition, Bloomberg noted:
But while business has been booming, developers have also been piling on the debt. Firms have been selling more bonds in the domestic market — and at the cheapest rates as investors shrug off default concerns. Those with dollar-denominated obligations, meanwhile, face higher borrowing costs as the U.S. Federal Reserves continues on its tightening path.
The amount of debt related to China’s over-development is massive. The total amount is unknown with S&P estimating the amount not reported by local communities and banks being over $6 trillion:
China may be sitting on a hidden debt pile of as much as 40 trillion yuan ($6 trillion), concealed off-balance-sheet by the country’s local governments, according to research from S&P Global Ratings.
Many local governments in China raise debt and hold it off their balance sheet, in order to avoid lending limits imposed by central authorities. S&P says that this is a growing problem within the country, and that the amount of debt held this way has likely ballooned in recent years.
The government may have to take over these debts as they become insolvent –
Not only is the level of hidden debt held by local governments in the world’s second largest economy rising, but so too is the risk of those debts being defaulted on. Much of the debt is held by so-called local government financing vehicles (LGFVs), and S&P reports that central government may be willing to let these vehicles file for bankruptcy in the future.

“Default risk of LGFVs is on the rise. China has opened up the possibility of insolvent LGFVs filing for bankruptcy, but managing the default aftermath is a formidable task for top leadership,” the report noted….
The country’s total non-financial sector debt, which includes household, corporate and government debt, will surge to almost 300% of GDP by 2022, up from 242% in 2016. Fears abound that if this debt pile continues to grow, a spectacular blow up could be imminent.
We’ve said for years now that China’s financial crash may make the 2008 crash in the US look small. The implications would no doubt impact the entire world but this was before the China coronavirus was released.

Millions of Americans have lost their jobs. Small and large businesses have been destroyed.

By unleashing the coronavirus and destroying the entire world’s economy, the China regime maintains a hold over the people in China and claims its economic woes are due to the coronavirus. The regime can also say it is no worse than all the other countries around the world.

US media and politicians who repeat China’s talking points are creating treason and should be treated as such.

President Trump moved China’s jobs back to the US. Based on history and Biden’s current actions, we know Biden would be happy to move them back for a few million for his son Hunter.
 

vector7

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After watching that video...this came to mind. vvv

DJT was a BLESSING and a reprieve - but he is gone due to opposition from traitors to our former republic that WE have allowed to remain in place - the progress we had hoped for is being stymied at every turn. some will be critical of this viewpoint - others will agree. I do not mean to be negative; but I am a realist and reality dictates that this once great nation is nearing the endpoint of its time in the sun. we can lay a large portion of that at the our own feet - WHAT!!!?? . . . and WHY is that RM?

because it happened on OUR WATCH
 

Dozdoats

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Chyna used US bank bailout $ (loaned to them by bailed-out banks) to build those buildings - and built their construction industry in the process. When they urbanize their new economy, the buildings will be ready - and their consumer goods economy production can all go domestic for a while. All laid out in BG Spalding's book ...
 

marsh

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China Rebukes Biden’s Foreign Policy Team; Cites ‘Black Lives Matter’ on U.S. Human Rights Abuses
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Chinese diplomat Yang Jiechi rebuked U.S. Secretary of State Tony Blinken and National Security Advisor Jake Sullivan during a meeting in Anchorage, Alaska, on Thursday, citing the Black Lives Matter movement on U.S. human rights abuses.

The summit was the first bilateral meeting between the two countries under President Joe Biden, who has traditionally been soft on Beijing, and has struggled to balance a desire to break with Trump’s tough policies with the need for a strong stance.

Ahead of the meeting, the White House boasted that it had successfully insisted that the summit happen on home soil. Press Secretary Jennifer Psaki also promised earlier Thursday that the U.S. would bring up concerns about human rights in China.

But when Blinken spoke of the “rules-based international order,” and expressed “deep concerns” with China’s behavior in “Xinjiang, Hong Kong, Taiwan, cyberattacks on the United States, economic coercion toward our allies,” Jiechi struck back.

He objected to what he called a violation of diplomatic protocol, and said the U.S. could not lecture China from a position of strength.

He also claimed that the U.S. had “deep-seated” human rights problems:
China is firmly opposed to U.S. interference in China’s internal affairs … On human rights, we hope the United States will do better on human rights. China has made steady progress in human rights, and the fact is that there are many problems within the United States regarding human rights, which is admitted by the U.S. itself as well. … The challenges facing the United States in human rights are deep-seated.
They did not just emerge over the past four years, such as “Black Lives Matter.” It did not come up only recently.

Yang Jiechi (Frederic J. Brown / Pool / AFP / Getty)


Yang Jiechi, director of the Central Foreign Affairs Commission Office for China addresses the US delegation at the opening session of US-China talks at the Captain Cook Hotel in Anchorage, Alaska on March 18, 2021. – China’s actions “threaten the rules-based order that maintains global stability,” US Secretary of State Antony Blinken said Thursday at the opening of a two-day meeting with Chinese counterparts in Alaska. (Photo by Frederic J. BROWN / POOL / AFP) (Photo by FREDERIC J. BROWN/POOL/AFP via Getty Images)

Blinken countered that in his discussion with allies, he was hearing “deep satisfaction that the United States is back, that we’re re-engaged with our allies and partners,” and “deep concern about some of the actions your government is taking.”

He added that a “hallmark” of American “leadership” was that the U.S. was willing to admit its mistakes — that it was engaged in “a constant quest to form a more perfect union,” but confronted its challenges “openly” and “transparently.”
 

vector7

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China Rebukes Biden’s Foreign Policy Team; Cites ‘Black Lives Matter’ on U.S. Human Rights Abuses

That's not all their calling for...they need Democrats to help clear a safer path.
Communist China: ‘Private Ownership Of Guns’ In U.S. ‘Serious Problem,’ Must ‘Change’

December 31, 2019

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Communist China, which currently has millions of people locked away in concentration camps, said in state-controlled media this week that the Second Amendment is a “serious problem” and that there needs to be “change” in how the American public views “private ownership of guns.”

The Global Times, which is Chinese state-run media, published the op-ed after a good guy with a gun in Texas stopped a shooting in a church.

China mocked the United States, saying that “shootings are shocking in a US allegedly governed by law”:
Private gun ownership is a tradition from the early days at the founding of the US. In a modern society, the problems created by this tradition have already exceeded the benefits. …​
American society has already seen serious problems caused by the private ownership of guns, but their massive number has contributed to an enormous inertia. Many interest groups have benefited from it and some ordinary people have truly gained a sense of safety. To change this habit which has lasted hundreds of years, tremendous political courage and a rearrangement of interests is required.​
Facts have proved that the US system is unable to handle the intricacies of countless issues around guns including politics, economics, law and order and public psychology. The country can neither manage the safe storage and use of so many guns owned by ordinary people, nor can it establish a new national system that bans or strictly restricts guns. It cannot even form an overwhelming opinion regarding gun issues.​

China’s attack on the Second Amendment comes after Hong Kong protesters have requested to have their own Second Amendment so they can defend themselves from the oppressive communist Chinese government.

The Wall Street Journal reported on Saturday that Chinese dictator Xi Jinping had received a title that was normally reserved for Communist China’s founder Mao Zedong, who is the most prolific mass murderer in human history:
During a two-day meeting that ended Friday, chaired by Mr. Xi, the party’s 25-member Politburo hailed his policies as visionary and described him as the renmin lingxiu, or “people’s leader,” a designation that directly echoes an accolade most closely associated with Communist China’s founder Mao Zedong.​

Sen. Ben Sasse (R-NE) fired back at Xi in a statement that highlighted just a few of the horrifying human rights abuses that communist China is inflicting on its citizens. Sasse wrote:
If Chairman Xi is the “people’s leader,” who are the people? When Chairman Xi talks about “the people,” he doesn’t mean the Uyghurs in torture camps. When Chairman Xi talks about “the people,’ he doesn’t mean the Falun Gong prisoners whose organs are harvested. When Chairman Xi talks about “the people,” he doesn’t mean the baby girls who were left to die under China’s one-child policy. When Chairman Xi talks about “the people,” he means what every communist hack before him has meant: not the people but the communist party.​

As The Daily Wire has highlighted, “China has been under intense scrutiny as the communist nation has millions of Muslims locked in concentration camps, is harvesting organs from detainees, and has created a massive surveillance state that it is reportedly exporting to countries around the world.”
 

marsh

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Biden "Proud" As "Theatrical" Alaska Summit Ends In 'No Breakthroughs' With China
FRIDAY, MAR 19, 2021 - 05:20 PM
During China's Foreign Ministry press briefing on Friday, spokesman Zhao Lijian put blame squarely on the United States for the somewhat chaotic and "fiery" and "confrontational" talks in Alaska, which is the first time the Biden administration has conducted a face-to-face meeting with Beijing officials. It was essentially a failure by all accounts. Yet Biden said he was "proud" of the US diplomatic team's performance under Blinken.

The Alaska summit ended somewhat on a quieter and anti-climactic note (compared to the opening war of words the day prior) Friday as the Chinese delegation reportedly stormed out of the hotel in Anchorage, according to CNBC, without giving any comments to the press, with only the US side saying there were "very candid" conversations in talks that were "tough and direct" over many hours, particularly related to issued involving Iran and North Korea. But for all the hype regarding the "diplomacy" of the Biden presidency, the US didn't announce any level of breakthroughs with Beijing, according to Bloomberg.

Zhao blamed the US delegation for breaching agreed-upon protocol from the start, which threw things off and led to "wanton attacks" and the failure of acceptable "diplomatic etiquette". Zhao said the US side "exceeded severely the set time limit and wantonly attacked and criticized China's domestic and foreign policies, provoking disagreements." He continued, "These are hardly good host manners or proper diplomatic etiquette. The Chinese side has made a solemn response."

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"It is because the US side failed to keep to the set time limit and provoked disagreements first that the opening statements were fiery and theatrical, which is not what China wishes to see." He concluded, "When the Chinese delegation arrived in Anchorage, their hearts were chilled by the biting cold as well as the reception by their American host."

The US side issued its own assessment of the unusual tit-for-tat introductory remarks which were filled with mutual scathing and sweeping criticisms of human rights records and even quips of "do not lecture us". As Reuters details:
Afterwards, the United States accused China of "grandstanding" while Chinese state media blamed U.S. officials for speaking too long and being "inhospitable".
"The Chinese delegation ... seems to have arrived intent on grandstanding, focused on public theatrics and dramatics over substance," the official told reporters at the Anchorage hotel where the meeting was taking place.
"Exaggerated diplomatic presentations often are aimed at a domestic audience," the official added.
...Some even characterized the talks as a "Hongmen Banquet", referring to an event that took place 2,000 years ago where a rebel leader invited another to a feast with the intention of murdering him.
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Still, it was the Thursday evening meeting which the US said was "substantive, serious, and direct" - and even ran past the initially planned-for two hours, according to Reuters.

Also on Friday Biden weighed in, with the president simply saying he was "proud" of Secretary of State Antony Blinken after the first day of the intense two-day talks, and despite the fireworks that marked the start.
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"I am proud of the secretary of state," the president told reporters at the White House.
Meanwhile, some are asking...

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AlaskaSue

North to the Future

Joe Biden Says He is “Proud” of Secretary of State Blinken For Being Humiliated by Chinese Envoy on American Soil (VIDEO)

By Cristina Laila
Published March 19, 2021 at 1:34p
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Joe Biden Friday morning was asked about Secretary of State Antony Blinken’s meeting with China’s top diplomat in Anchorage, Alaska.

“What’s your reaction to China last night?” a reporter asked Biden before he boarded Marine One on the South Lawn.

“I’m very proud of the Secretary of State,” Biden said.

WATCH:
View: https://twitter.com/i/status/1372938030877659137
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Joe Biden is proud of Antony Blinken for being humiliated by China’s envoy on the world stage – on American soil.

Secretary of State Antony Blinken and National Security adviser Jake Sullivan met with China’s top diplomat Yang Jiechi and State Councilor Wang Yi in Anchorage, Alaska on Thursday.

Blinken’s meeting with China’s top diplomat quickly went south on Thursday evening.
The meeting devolved into bickering and an exchange of barbs, but China’s delegation destroyed Biden’s team of amateurs.

“The United States does not have the qualification to say that it wants to speak to China from a position of strength,” Yang said right to Blinken’s face.

Blinken and Sullivan sat there like a couple of stunned amateurs and took the lashing.
Blinken licking China’s boot made Beijing Biden “proud.”

"Clueless Joe" - who, unlike Shoeless Joe, has no baseball skills, and for sure no diplomacy skills despite (because of?) his years in government.

I'm afraid that Raggedyman has the right of it - It no longer looks like the dawn is breaking in America.
 

AlaskaSue

North to the Future
Will a chilly meeting in Anchorage set the tone for US-China relations?

In a protracted, unplanned public spat in Anchorage late on Thursday, China and America’s top diplomats traded barbs for over an hour in front of astonished journalists.

The openings to diplomatic summits are usually dull and carefully choreographed, a showcase for the world’s cameras before the doors close and the real talks begin.



So if the people now in charge of probably the world’s most consequential bilateral relationship were unable to keep tensions under wraps for just a few minutes of news bulletin footage, it suggests even more turbulent times lie ahead.

Speeches from both delegations were meant to last two minutes each, the US diplomats said afterwards. But once they had made brief remarks, China’s top diplomat Yang Jiechi took the floor for more than 16 minutes full of broadsides against a Washington he denounced as bullying, racist and hypocritical.

The US secretary of state, Antony Blinken, felt compelled to respond. Then, as he asked journalists to leave, Chinese counterparts attacked US commitment to free press as they responded to his response.

The fierce comments from both sides were probably directed as much at domestic audiences as their counterparts across the table.

Under Xi Jinping, China’s foreign ministry has encouraged an aggressive nationalism, with its diplomats recast as aggressive “wolf warriors”, defending the country in battles of words and social media overseas.

President Biden is under pressure from both Democrats and Republicans to take a hardline approach to Beijing, a rare issue of bipartisan consensus, as he feels his way towards a new relationship with a major competitor and rival.

Donald Trump’s initial warm embrace of China, including his apparent eagerness to overlook human rights abuses in pursuit of a trade deal, had soured into confrontation and racist attacks by the end of his term in office. Critics, including Biden, denounced his approach as erratic and dangerous.

But with human rights and economic concerns about China mounting, it has also become clear that engagement, the cornerstone of US diplomacy with China since Richard Nixon re-established ties in the 1970s, is no longer considered effective.

China is economically powerful, and territorially aggressive, from its border with India to the South China Sea. The two countries are at odds over everything from trade tariffs to cybersecurity to the handling of an international probe into the origins of Covid-19, and both are determined not to look weak.

“We do not seek conflict, but we welcome stiff competition, and we will always stand up for our principles, for our people, and for our friends,” the US national security adviser, Jake Sullivan, said.....more at link plus video and pics.
 

marsh

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First U.S. China meeting gets off to rocky start…
Posted by Kane on March 19, 2021 3:48 pm

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Statement from Anthony Blinken — Secretary of State

US, China spar in first face-to-face meeting under Biden
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Secretary of State Antony Blinken, far right, speaks as Chinese Communist Party foreign affairs chief Yang Jiechi, left, and China's State Councilor Wang Yi, second from left, listen at the opening session of US-China talks at the Captain Cook Hotel in Anchorage, Alaska, Thursday, March 18, 2021. (Frederic J. Brown/Pool via AP)


ANCHORAGE, Alaska (AP) — Top U.S. and Chinese officials offered sharply different views of each other and the world on Thursday as the two sides met face-to-face for the first time since President Joe Biden took office.

In unusually pointed public remarks for a staid diplomatic meeting, Secretary of State Antony Blinken and Chinese Communist Party foreign affairs chief Yang Jiechi took aim at each other’s country’s policies at the start of two days of talks in Alaska. The contentious tone of their public comments suggested the private discussions would be even more rocky.

The meetings in Anchorage were a new test in increasingly troubled relations between the two countries, which are at odds over a range of issues from trade to human rights in Tibet, Hong Kong and China’s western Xinjiang region, as well as over Taiwan, China’s assertiveness in the South China Sea and the coronavirus pandemic.

Blinken said the Biden administration is united with its allies in pushing back against China’s increasing authoritarianism and assertiveness at home and abroad. Yang then unloaded a list of Chinese complaints about the U.S. and accused Washington of hypocrisy for criticizing Beijing on human rights and other issues.

“Each of these actions threaten the rules-based order that maintains global stability,” Blinken said of China’s actions in Xinjiang, Hong Kong and Taiwan, and of cyber attacks on the United States and economic coercion against U.S. allies. “That’s why they’re not merely internal matters, and why we feel an obligation to raise these issues here today.”


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National security adviser Jake Sullivan amplified the criticism, saying China has undertaken an “assault on basic values.”

“We do not seek conflict but we welcome stiff competition,” he said.

Yang responded angrily by demanding the U.S. stop pushing its own version of democracy at a time when the United States itself has been roiled by domestic discontent. He also accused the U.S. of failing to deal with its own human rights problems and took issue with what he said was “condescension” from Blinken, Sullivan and other U.S. officials.

“We believe that it is important for the United States to change its own image and to stop advancing its own democracy in the rest of the world,” he said. “Many people within the United States actually have little confidence in the democracy of the United States.”

“China will not accept unwarranted accusations from the U.S. side,” he said, adding that recent developments had plunged relations “into a period of unprecedented difficulty” that “has damaged the interests of our two peoples.”

’There is no way to strangle China,” he said.

Blinken appeared to be annoyed by the tenor and length of the comments, which went on for more than 15 minutes. He said his impressions from speaking with world leaders and on his just-concluded trip to Japan and South Korea were entirely different from the Chinese position.

“I’m hearing deep satisfaction that the United States is back, that we’re reengaged,” Blinken retorted. “I’m also hearing deep concern about some of the actions your government is taking.”

Underscoring the animosity, the State Department blasted the Chinese delegation for violating an agreed upon two-minute time limit for opening statements and suggested it “seem(ed) to have arrived intent on grandstanding, focused on public theatrics and dramatics over substance.”

“America’s approach will be undergirded by confidence in our dealing with Beijing — which we are doing from a position of strength — even as we have the humility to know that we are a country eternally striving to become a more perfect union,” it said.

U.S.-China ties have been torn for years, and the Biden administration has yet to signal whether it’s ready or willing to back away from the hard-line stances taken under Donald Trump.

Just a day before the meeting, Blinken had announced new sanctions over Beijing’s crackdown on pro-democracy advocates in Hong Kong. In response, China stepped up its rhetoric opposing U.S. interference in domestic affairs and complained directly about it.

“Is this a decision made by the United States to try to gain some advantage in dealing with China?” State Councilor Wang Yi asked. “Certainly this is miscalculated and only reflects the vulnerability and weakness inside the United States and it will not shake China’s position or resolve on those issues.”

Trump had taken pride in forging what he saw as a strong relationship with Chinese leader Xi Jinping. But the relationship disintegrated after the coronavirus pandemic spread from the Wuhan province across the globe and unleashed a public health and economic disaster.
 

marsh

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Biden’s Foreign Policy Disaster in Alaska with China Was Worse than Initially Reported — With Video

By Joe Hoft
Published March 19, 2021 at 6:30pm

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Yesterday’s meeting with China in Alaska was even worse than first reported.

The Chinese destroyed the Biden gang. They know they are weak and led by a senile old man.


Making things even worse, before falling three times on Marine One steps, Biden claimed his team did well:


But this was all a farce, just like the 2020 election.

The Conservative Treehouse reported it this way:
To say the first major diplomatic summit between the United States and China was an unmitigated mess would be an understatement. Apparently, U.S. Secretary of State Tony Blinkin thought it would be of value for the domestic audience if he was to lambast the Beijing delegation in public and on camera. His efforts were a complete fail as the Chinese knew everything was presented for domestic consumption… so, the Red Dragon threw fire right back onto the purple hair and obviously stunned an unsettled U.S. Secretary…
…Public insults are expressions of weakness, not strength.

It was visibly obvious that Secretary Blinken stupidly did not anticipate the Chinese officials would retaliate in their remarks responding to him…

…Additionally, despite Blinken and National Security Advisor Jake Sullivan’s criticism of China, there was not one word on Beijing’s responsibility for the coronavirus. Nothing about China allowing COVID to become a dangerous pandemic, and no criticism of Beijing for their continued refusal to cooperate with international investigations of the origins of the virus, including inspections of the Wuhan bio-labs.

Overall this was a pathetic (weak) and sophomoric (feeble) attempt at diplomatic confrontation; while being disrespectful and completely devoid of fact points to frame the purpose of the diplomatic meeting. The first rule in any negotiation or confrontation is to use the behavior, the accepted empirical action of your adversary, against them.
Here’s more video on the disastrous encounter.

View: https://twitter.com/i/status/1372749015155019777
1:28 min

The Biden team looks like 5th graders against the Chinese – a far cry from the Trump years when President Trump had China begging for a trade deal on Trump’s terms before China dropped the China coronavirus on the entire world.
 

vector7

Dot Collector
Here's what China/Russia really thinks of the Leftist (useful idiots) Democrats running America.

They have a special name for these Woke Leftists (useful idiots).

“The Chinese know our leaders very well. In fact, they have a name for our self-hating class. They call them ‘Baizuo’ — the rough translation of the mandarin is ‘White Liberal’ and it is definitely not a compliment,”

The Chinese State Media defines them below:

Baizuo Definition:
They're people who only care about topics such as immigration, minorities, LGBT, and the environment. Who have no sense of real problems in the real world. Who only advocate for peace and equality to satisfy their own feelings of moral superiority and who are so obsessed with political correctness that they tolerate backward Islamic values for the sake of multiculturalism. They also advocate exclusiveness and anti-discrimination but cannot tolerate different opinions. Baizuo's political opinions are so shallow that they tend to maintain social equality by embracing ideologies that's against the basic concept of equality.

As Chinese State media quotes, former President Obama was an advocate of Baizuo ideology. So is Germany Chancellor Angela Merkel and her decision to welcome more than 1 million 3rd world immigrants to Europe.

According to one scholar at Peking University; "Baizuo's are phony and hypocritical and will make the situation in the West go from bad to worse".

Tucker: Chinese Government Using Black Live Matter as a Weapon Against Us (11:40)
Mar 19, 2021
View: https://youtu.be/88TdAbqJliU


Jeezzzz ... just stop. I want off!! On the other hand ... I think sometime in the next few years the tide will turn. This is not sustainable for them. At some point ... smart people must take over.
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Groucho

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Apparently there was a third meeting in Anchorage today; haven't heard a peep out of it either. Only mention I saw on it was a press gaggle transcript on AF 1 off the WH website.
Apparently Comrade Joe isn't backing down. Below is the transcript of that press gaggle.

Press Gaggle by Principal Deputy Press Secretary Karine Jean-Pierre Aboard Air Force One En Route Atlanta, Georgia | The White House
Good grief, the U.S. just got it's nuts handed to it by the Chinese, and this press gaggle starts off with the ginned up white supremacist lie about the Atlanta shootings committed by a sexual deviant. These people are totally off the rails. Stupid Baizuos.
 

TerryK

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Every major country will always test a new President.
This is and has been true in the past or Russia, China, N Korea and even the EU.

Biden's remarks regarding Putin were just stupid. Biden and yes, even Trump, had a bad habit of being led to say foolish things by reporters. Biden was easily led by the reporter who asked him "Is Putin a killer?" Biden accomplished nothing by running his mouth except for stirring a crap pot. :shk:
Putin's comeback wishing Biden good health was kind of funny. Only thing missing was Putin telling him to enjoy the new poison underwear I'm sending you. In addition to having a food taster like Trump had, Biden should probably check on who does his laundry.

When will politicians learn that long sit down sessions with reporters accomplish nothing but give them an opportunity to put their foot in their mouth. Say what you mean and mean what you say, and don't have long meandering sit down conversations with reporters who have spent the last several days thinking of ways to get you to step in a pile of crap.


Same kind of issue with the Sec of State meeting with China in Alaska. The first meeting should have been in private and each group lecturing the other in front of dozens of reporters is not the correct way for a first meeting with a new administration. It will be difficult and time consuming to recover.

Over all, there was plenty of diplomatic stupidity in this new administration.
 

marsh

On TB every waking moment

Intelligence expert says U.S.-China summit a 'disaster,' Biden should replace top diplomat

'I think it was one of the most incompetent displays I've ever seen by an American diplomat,' Fred Fleitz says.

By Natalia Mittelsta
Updated: March 20, 2021 - 2:10pm

Former CIA analyst and National Security Council chief of staff Fred Fleitz says President Biden should replace Secretary of State Antony Blinken after a U.S.-China summit in Alaska this week dissolved into insults and little diplomatic progress.

"I think it was one of the most incompetent displays I've ever seen by an American diplomat," Fleitz told the John Solomon Reports podcast. "Insulting the Chinese just before the talks begin, before the cameras causing them to lose face. I just thought, 'This is amateur hour.'"

"Donald Trump knew how to deal with heads of state of our enemies. And these guys, I think they were just virtue signaling before the lapdog American media. It was a serious mistake and it set back our policies and it made them look inept because they weren't ready for the counter attack by Chinese officials," said Fleitz, who served as chief of staff on the Trump NSC.

"I mean, we gave them an opportunity to dress down the Secretary of State and National Security Advisor in front of the international press. What a disaster."

Fleitz proposed a solution to avoid another "disaster" like this again: find a new Secretary of State who has "gravitas."

"I think the president needs a new Secretary of State - someone with gravitas.

Maybe (Sen.) Chris Coons, maybe (former Sen.) Joe Lieberman - someone who is a liberal and a Democrat, but has gravitas and is knowledgeable - not just a staff aide or an Obama retread. Someone with deep thoughts," he said. "There's just no one like that in this administration."

Fleitz continued, "The president can't even remember the name of the Secretary of Defense, which isn't an accident because most people can't remember his name. I think he's a good man."

"But I mean, where are the Donald Rumsfeld and Colin Powells, and Condoleezza Rices and Jim Bakers? I didn't agree with all of them, but they were men and women of stature. When they went to an international meeting, foreigners took notice. When Tony Blinken goes somewhere, people are thinking, 'What the hell is this?'"

Fleitz added his concerns with U.S. foreign policy regarding China and Iran.

"I think China is the biggest threat. I'm worried that they're going to get more aggressive when they sense weakness. And I think big, big concessions to Iran are coming to get the U.S. back in the nuclear deal."
 

vector7

Dot Collector
In separate incidents, Moscow and Beijing sent a strong message to the Democrats now running America that they will no longer tolerate being told what to do.

Russia: “Whatever you accuse others of is what you are doing or acting yourself.”

China: “The US no longer has the qualification to speak to China from a position of strength.

Russia and China tell Biden: The old days are over - Asia Times
View: https://twitter.com/CommoLt/status/1375501101923921920?s=19

We have now entered the days we were warned about so many years ago by the late John Paul Jackson.
Reading this thread reminded me of the late John Paul Jackson's interview on Trunews April 5, 2012 about future events.

Summary of the podcast:

@47:30 Rick was talking to a Panamanian college woman with dreams and visions people are having in Panama of American riots coming during elections, cities on fire and a great persecution coming to Christians in America.

@49:30 John Paul Jackson was shown things happening to America from 2010-2020. He said shortly after the next decade (2020) if America doesn't repent it will be facing a lifestyle more like the 1800's than the 2000s.

@54:17 John Paul Jackson is led with urgency to share this word to watch Russia and China to begin projecting their influence over areas they once had control and influence over before and during the cold war. Before America goes to war, China and Russia begin taking a much stronger tone against America, telling her how it is going to be with ultimatums.
 
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Southside

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U.S. "Gets Its Ass Handed To It" In World War III Simulations: RAND

In simulated World War III scenarios, the U.S. continues to lose against Russia and China, two top war planners warned last week. “In our games, when we fight Russia and China, blue gets its ass handed to it" RAND analyst David Ochmanek said Thursday.

RAND's wargames show how US Armed Forces - colored blue on wargame maps - experience the most substantial losses in one scenario after another and still can't thwart Russia or China - which predictably is red - from accomplishing their objectives: annihilating Western forces.

"We lose a lot of people. We lose a lot of equipment. We usually fail to achieve our objective of preventing aggression by the adversary," he warned.

In the next military conflict, which some believe may come as soon as the mid-2020s, all five battlefield domains: land, sea, air, space, and cyberspace, will be heavily contested, suggesting the U.S. could have a difficult time in achieving superiority as it has in prior conflicts.

The simulated war games showed, the "red" aggressor force often destroys U.S. F-35 Lightning II stealth fighters on the runway, sends several Naval fleets to the depths, destroys US military bases, and through electronic warfare, takes control of critical military communication systems. In short, a gruesome, if simulated, annihilation of some of the most modern of US forces.

“In every case I know of,” said Robert Work, a former deputy secretary of defense with years of wargaming experience, “the F-35 rules the sky when it’s in the sky, but it gets killed on the ground in large numbers.”

So, as Russia and China develop fifth-generation fighters and hypersonic missiles, “things that rely on sophisticated base infrastructures like runways and fuel tanks are going to have a hard time,” Ochmanek said. “Things that sail on the surface of the sea are going to have a hard time.”

"That’s why the 2020 budget coming out next week retires the carrier USS Truman decades early and cuts two amphibious landing ships, as we’ve reported. It’s also why the Marine Corps is buying the jump-jet version of the F-35, which can take off and land from tiny, ad hoc airstrips, but how well they can maintain a high-tech aircraft in low-tech surroundings is an open question," said Breaking Defense.

Meanwhile, speaking purely hypothetically of course, "if we went to war in Europe, there would be one Patriot battery moving, and it would go to Ramstein. And that’s it,” Work complained. The US has 58 Brigade Combat Teams across the continent but doesn't have anti-air and missile-defense capabilities required to handle a barrage of missiles from Russia.

RAND also war-gamed cyber and electronic attacks in the simulations, Work said; Russia and China tend to cripple US communication networks.

"Whenever we have an exercise and the red force really destroys our command and control, we stop the exercise," Work said without a trace of humor. Beijing calls this “system destruction warfare,” Work said. They aim to “attack the American battle network at all levels, relentlessly, and they practice it all the time.”

The Air Force asked RAND to formulate a plan several years ago to improve the outcomes of the wargames in favor of the US, Ochmanek said. “We found it impossible to spend more than $8 billion a year" to fix the problems.

"That’s $8 billion for the Air Force. Triple that to cover for the Army and the Navy Department (which includes the US Marines)," Ochmanek said, "and you get $24 billion."

Work was less concerned about the near-term risk of war, and he said, China and Russia aren't ready to fight because their modernization efforts have not been completed. He said any major conflict is unlikely for another 10 to 20 years from now.

He said "$24 billion a year for the next five years would be a good expenditure" to prepare the military for World War III.

RAND offers a sobering assessment that America could lose a multi-front war in the future, which is quite shocking considering that the US spent nearly three times as much as the second biggest war power, China, did in 2017.

With the defense budget stuck around $700 billion per annum for the remainder of President Trump's term, America's Warhawks are inciting fear through simulated wargames with one purpose only: demand more taxpayers' money for war spending.
When your enemy(Chyna) controls your Government,
Of course you lose WW3!
 
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