REL GENRL Dumitru Duduman

raven

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it won't be the Russians
because
the Democrats are always blaming the Russians

it is that slight of hand thing. the magician always gets your focus on his right hand (the Russians) while the left hand is the one committing larceny
 

day late

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I agree, I live in Florida. So I hope this does not come to pass. Like I'm already not stressed enough!

Same here, but different reasons. When I first heard this prophecy our son was quite young and I went to The Lord asking where I could take my family to keep them safe. The answer was short, (two words) certain and most uncomfortable. The answer was "Rear Guard."
 

rob0126

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You forget the other test of a prophet. 100% accuracy. To my knowledge, Dimitru Duduman NEVER missed.

I heard one of his prophecies didnt come to pass. (it only takes 1)

I dont trust him.

Ive read some folks from romania (where he is from) said he was a huckster.

And when anyone is held up high by stan johnson, they are automatically suspect. (ive met stan)
 

rob0126

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Same here, but different reasons. When I first heard this prophecy our son was quite young and I went to The Lord asking where I could take my family to keep them safe. The answer was short, (two words) certain and most uncomfortable. The answer was "Rear Guard."

whats rear guard mean?
 

Imrik

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I heard one of his prophecies didnt come to pass. (it only takes 1)

I dont trust him.

Ive read some folks from romania (where he is from) said he was a huckster.

And when anyone is held up high by stan johnson, they are automatically suspect. (ive met stan)
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You sure Stan just wasn’t milking him? Guy couldn’t speak any English.
 

rob0126

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stan adored him. stan considered him the greatest prophet of our day. he told stories of him talking to DD as if he were moses or something.
 

Imrik

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stan adored him. stan considered him the greatest prophet of our day. he told stories of him talking to DD as if he were moses or something.
That’s my point though, that was all Stan. I knew some folks that toured on the prophecy club back in the day. Loved Jesus, Stan....not so much.
 

bethshaya

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whats rear guard mean?

It means NOWHERE is safe. God is your Rear Guard (watches your back and will protect his own or take them quick).

But on the Babylon topic, there is a difference between "The Mystery Babylon" and Babylon historically. It is a typology that makes it the Mystery. It isn't a physical Babylon, it is metaphorically because they act like the first one did.
 
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bethshaya

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I heard one of his prophecies didnt come to pass. (it only takes 1)

I dont trust him.

Ive read some folks from romania (where he is from) said he was a huckster.

And when anyone is held up high by stan johnson, they are automatically suspect. (ive met stan)

You "heard" it, or you know it? If you heard it, how can you not trust someone simply because of heresay? Find out if it did. Otherwise, you are just following a pied piper if you accept or dismiss things you hear without verifying simply because someone else spoon feeds you information.
 

nchomemaker

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Stan is like Sid Roth, just let anyone come on the show no matter their credibility. I listened to the Prophecy Club for a couple years till I realized he was letting false prophets that gave dates something would happen on such and such a date, speak at his conferences. Well some of these "prophecies" didn't come to pass so I quit listening. I'm not sure on Duduman, just because a man dies before prophecies come to pass doesn't make them a false prophet, if that was the case, then some of the Prophets in the Bible are false. I don't believe that, like Daniel for example was told the visions he had were not for his time.
 

day late

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Stan is like Sid Roth, just let anyone come on the show no matter their credibility. I listened to the Prophecy Club for a couple years till I realized he was letting false prophets that gave dates something would happen on such and such a date, speak at his conferences. Well some of these "prophecies" didn't come to pass so I quit listening. I'm not sure on Duduman, just because a man dies before prophecies come to pass doesn't make them a false prophet, if that was the case, then some of the Prophets in the Bible are false. I don't believe that, like Daniel for example was told the visions he had were not for his time.

BINGO!!!
 

day late

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To give credit where it is due, I believe rob0126 is referring to a prophecy about "Maybe Three Years Left". I admit this does seem to be a failed prophecy on the surface. It was "given" in 1996 and clearly if it meant 1999 Dimitru was a false prophet. You can find it here;

Dumitru Duduman's Prophecies, Dreams & Visions - 5 (ubm1.org)

There are a couple of points I would like to make.

First, when this was shown to Dimitru, he was in the hospital. Who knows what he had been given for pain ect. Who can say how it might have affected him.

Second, satan is the master of deception. Choosing a time like this to slip Dimitru one of his most convincing lies is nothing more than standard procedure for him. Dimitru was shown three stars and asked if he knew what they meant. He answered No. He was then told by the angels; "We won't say exactly, but it probably means that in another three years a great massacre will occur". Then the stars turned into blood, and everything disappeared." PROBABLY??? Now since when does God send a messenger with a message that they either don't know the meaning of or they refuse to say? I mean if God sends you a message wouldn't he want you to get the point?

As I have said, this caused me concern for a while until the above occurred to me. So if this is the reason that rob0126 thinks Dimitru a false prophet, I can understand that. If there is some other failed prophecy, I'd like to know what it is.

On a side note, what if it wasn't three years, but three decades? That would put it in the year 2026.
 

nchomemaker

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What if the judgment coming on America is like the end of a football game? Two minutes left on the clock turns into 10 because of things that happen that stop the clock? I believe judgment is coming it's inevitable because of the killing of the unborn. Israel's judgment was delayed, but she was still judged for the sins of King Manasseh. The sacrificing of the babies that happened under his leadership. Disclaimer: No scripture just history.
 

rob0126

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You "heard" it, or you know it? If you heard it, how can you not trust someone simply because of heresay? Find out if it did. Otherwise, you are just following a pied piper if you accept or dismiss things you hear without verifying simply because someone else spoon feeds you information.

I dont trust him because of stans affiliation with him.

Ive dealt with stan and he is a scammer thru and thru.

if the spirit on stan believed he was a prophet then he is definitely suspect.

Also, if DD was a man of God, then why didnt the Lord call out stan's fraud on people, or even bring it up once? (nathan/king david talk)

It is enough for me to doubt.

Sorry, not meaning to thread drift.
 
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marsofold

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I dont trust him because of stans affiliation with him.
Ive dealt with stan and he is a scammer thru and thru.
if the spirit on stan believed he was a prophet then he is definitely suspect.

It is enough for me to doubt.

If Stan liked you, would you dislike yourself? Dissing a dead man because someone who rubs you the wrong way endorses him seems mighty unfair to the dead man, who can't defend himself.
 

China Connection

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David Wilkerson


The chill really set in with the 1985 publication of Set The Trumpet to Thy Mouth, in which Wilkerson hammered at sin and cried for repentance-not only for the people outside the church, but the people in the pews. America is heading for nuclear holocaust because of its immorality, he wrote, laying much of the responsibility on the doorstep of the American church, which he claims has been co-opted into the world despite Christ’s teaching to be separate and holy. He identified America as the “’Babylon” of Revelation prophecy, a theory not shared by most Biblical scholars.

“Babylon is a theological term for the harlot church and the system of government that has forgotten God,” he says. “We’ve corrupted the whole world system with our money. The charismatic movement is in need of repentance. We don’t deal with sin. We don’t cry out for righteousness. The only way God can break us is with a hammer.”

Wilkerson believes that hammer will be forged in Moscow, He even gives the military strategy and duration of the nuclear Armageddon, writing that America will be completely destroyed in one hour after a first strike launched over the North Pole by the Russians, with no American missiles ever leaving their silos. Again, no dates, just “sometime in the near future.”

Scary stuff, but even that prediction might not have seriously undermined his popularity among the faithful. After all. there’s still the rapture.

It was the rest of the book that realty got him in hot water. A special measure of his fiery ire was reserved for those he calls “pillow prophets.” charismatic ministers leaching what is known as the “prosperity gospel.” Their message, in a nutshell: God wants you to be prosperous; speak only positive things and He will give you health and wealth; negative words and thoughts bring negative results.

 
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rob0126

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If Stan liked you, would you dislike yourself? Dissing a dead man because someone who rubs you the wrong way endorses him seems mighty unfair to the dead man, who can't defend himself.

I've dealt with enough false prophets to know to err on the side of caution.

If DD was right and a prophet, then I will apologize to him in heaven.

But as these are the last days, and deception is the norm, I'm reserving my right to doubt, and to just believe what the Word of God says.
 

bethshaya

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I dont trust him because of stans affiliation with him.

Ive dealt with stan and he is a scammer thru and thru.

if the spirit on stan believed he was a prophet then he is definitely suspect.

Also, if DD was a man of God, then why didnt the Lord call out stan's fraud on people, or even bring it up once? (nathan/king david talk)

It is enough for me to doubt.

Sorry, not meaning to thread drift.

By Stans admission on his site, he spent 45 days total with him over the course of 4 different speaking events in which they were both speakers at back in 1988 - 33 years ago. How well do you know someone after spending just 45 days with them some 33 years ago?

If what you say is correct, and Stan is a scammer, it is more likely he, just starting out back then and looking to make a name for himself, coat-tailed on someone who DID have a strong message, and that person died shortly after and he capitalized on that pushing another persons message for their own gain and that dead person has nothing to say about it and cannot correct it or distance his message from the person any more. That doesn't mean Duduman is a scammer, it means his message was taken advantage of by a scammer and he cannot say anything about it because he's dead.
 

day late

money? whats that?
If Stan liked you, would you dislike yourself? Dissing a dead man because someone who rubs you the wrong way endorses him seems mighty unfair to the dead man, who can't defend himself.

Whoa,! Whoa! Whoa! rob0126 and I have a matter for discussion. It IS biblical to question the spirit making any kind of statement that is said to come from The Lord. That is what we are doing. No blood, no foul. I respect honest questioning even if it doesn't match my beliefs. That is how we learn.

rob0126, the question has been raised of can you dismiss a man, who many believe a prophet, just because someone else associated with him is not to your liking. Remember the servant of Elijah? I have never met Stan Johnson and do not dare to say anything against him. I DO have reasons to be concerned, but will not judge him. That's not my job. It is a fair question. i.e. Why didn't The Lord show David the heart of Absalom? Surely The Lord knew Absalom's heart. But He didn't tell David. I believe we are to have discernment about the things going on around us and not depend on the opinions of other men. So we come back to the first question. Which prophecy of Dimitru Duduman do you have a problem with?
 

China Connection

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Dumitru Duduman Russian Invasion of America
Dumitru Duduman was a Romanian pastor that smuggled bible into Russia. He was captured and torchered by the electric chair. When he was close to death Gabriel the arch angel came to him and ministered to him and by the grace of God he was expelled out of Romania.
When he moved to America Dumitru Duduman received a vision from the Lord and Gabriel showed him all of Californian, Las Vegas, New York, Nevada, and Florida and was told that these cities were as Sodom and Gomorrah and that in one day it would burn. He was told that Revelation 17,18 and Ezekiel 38,39 talks of the Russian in invasion of America Mystery Babylon and in one day it will burn.

In one day Russia will attack America by sea and destroy America by nuclear weapons.The people of the Lord are instructed to flee into the wilderness to escape from sudden destruction in the protection of Jesus.
The Nations that will attack and destroy America are Russia, Cuba, Nicaragua, Central America, Mexico, and 2 others that where forgotten but one may be China according to Henry gruver's vision of the destruction of America.
Dumitru Dudaman
The Russian Invasion of America
It was late at night and I couldn't stay inside because of the smell. I was sitting outside on a rock. A light came toward me. The fear of cars came with me. The Romanian Police tried to run over me with cars. That's why I jumped up. The light surrounded me. Out of the light I heard the same voice. It said, "Dumitru, why are you so despaired?"


I said, "Why did you punish me? What did I do that was so rotten that you brought me to the United States? I have nowhere to lie my head down upon. I can't understand anybody."

He said, "Dumitru, didn't I tell you that I am here with you also? I brought you here to this country because this country will burn."

"Then why did you bring me here to burn? Why didn't you let me die in my own country?"

"Dumitru, have patience and I will tell you. Get beside me."

I don't know what it was. Brothers, I got beside the angel. He showed me all of California. He showed me all the cities of California. Then he showed me Las Vegas.

"You see what I have shown you? This is Sodom and Gomorrah. In one day it will burn."

He said, "It's sin has reached the Holy One."

He showed me another great city. He said, "Do you know what city this is?"

I said, "No."

He said, "This is New York City. This is Sodom and Gomorrah. In one day it will burn."

He showed me Florida. He said, "This is Florida. This is Sodom and Gomorrah. In one day it will burn."

He didn't let me say a word until he brought me back to the place we had left. He said, "Now, Dumitru, you can ask me questions."

He said, "I brought you to this country. Dumitru, I want to wake up a lot of people. I love this country. I love the people. I want to save them. America will burn."

I said, "How can I save them? I can't even speak their language? Who knows me here? How will they call me?"

He said, "Don't worry. I will be ahead of you. I will make great healings among the American people. You will go to television stations, radio stations and churches. Tell them everything I tell you. Don't hide anything. If you try to hide anything I will punish you. America will burn."

"How will America burn? It is so powerful."

He said, "The Russian spies have discovered where the most powerful nuclear missiles are in America. It will start with the world calling for 'peace, peace. Then there will be an internal revolution in America, started by the Communists. The government will be busy with internal problems. Then, from the oceans, Russia, Cuba, Nicaragua, Central America, Mexico, and two other countries (which I cannot remember) will attack! The Russians will bombard the nuclear missile silos in America. America will burn.

I said, "What will you do with the church?"

He said, "The church has left me."

I said, "How? Don't you have people here?"

He said, "People in America honor people. The honor that should be given to God, they give to other people. Americans think highly of themselves. They say, 'I serve God,' but they don't. In the church there is divorce, adultery, fornication, sodomy, abortion and all kinds of sin. Jesus Christ doesn't live in sin. He lives in holiness. I brought you here so you could cry out loud. Don't be afraid. I am with you. Tell them to stop sinning. God never stops forgiving. Tell them to repent. He will forgive them. Tell them to start preparing themselves so I can save them in the day of trouble."

If you call me to speak, God loves you. That's what the angel of God told me.

"Whoever I love, I want to wake. I will put on their hearts to call you. Don't hide anything or I will punish you."

Stop sinning and repent. He will forgive and we will have salvation.

I said, "How will you save the Church if America will burn?"

He said, "Tell them as I tell you. As he saved the three young men through the oven of fire, and Daniel from the mouth of the lion, that is how I will save them. Tell them to stop sinning and repent.


"I have blessed this country because of the Jews that are here. I have 7 million Jews here. They haven't tasted war of persecution. God blessed them more than anyone else. Instead of thanking God, they started sinning and doing wickedly. Their sins have reached the Holy one. God will punish them with fire. Israel doesn't recognize the Messiah, because they place their trust on the power of the Jews in America. When God will hit America, all the nations will be terrified.

"God will raise up China, Japan and many other nations and they will beat the Russians. They will push them back to the gates of Paris. There they will make a peace treaty, but they will make the Russians their leader. All the nations with the Russians as their leader go against Israel. It's not that they want to. God makes them.

Israel doesn't have the help of the Jews in America anymore. In their terror, when they see what is coming, they will call upon the Messiah. The Messiah will come to help Israel. Then the church of God will meet Him in the clouds (1 Thes.4:16).

Are you ready to meet Jesus Christ? Are your wedding clothes clean? If there are still spots on the clothes of your soul, then the blood of Jesus Christ still has power to cleanse sins. Jesus Christ will live with the Church on the Mount of Olives. He himself will fight against the nations.

I said, "If you are the angel of God, everything you tell me has to be written in the Bible. If it is not, then I can't tell the Americans."

"Tell them to read Jeremiah 51:8-15. He names it 'The Mystery Babylon, The Great Adulteress.' Also, Revelation Chapter 18, the entire chapter. There it says clearly what will happen to America."

Why did he name it, "The Mystery Babylon"?

"Tell them because all the nations of the world immigrated into America and America accepted them. America accepted Buddha, the devil church, the sodomite church, the Mormon church and all kinds of wickedness. America was a Christian nation. Instead of stopping them, they went after their gods. Because of this, He named them "The Mystery Babylon."

So you know that truly I have been sent by God, tomorrow at 9:00 am, someone will come to give you a bed. At 10:30 someone will come to pay your rent. At noon, someone will bring you a car and give you a bucket of honey."

Brothers, it happened as the angel had said. At 9:00 someone rang my doorbell and said, "I brought you a bed. I could not sleep all night long. God told me that you were from Romania and that you need a bed." At 10:30 someone else rang my doorbell and handed me a check for $500 and said, "God told me to bring you $500." At noon, someone came and gave ma a car and a bucket of honey!

You might say, "Why? We trust in God! We have God on our side! On our dollar bill it has 'In God we trust.' How are our lives? We go after the foreign gods. The American church has adultery, fornication, sodomy, divorce and abortion. If we repent with all of our hearts and call Jesus to help us, we will stop sinning. We know that when Jesus comes we will meet him in the clouds.

The angel also said, "Before the internal problems begin in America, your country (Romania) will have a revolution (fulfilled December 22, 1989).
(Dumitru told me about the revolution in March of 1988 over a year before it occurred.)

 

bethshaya

God has a plan, Trust it!
To give credit where it is due, I believe rob0126 is referring to a prophecy about "Maybe Three Years Left". I admit this does seem to be a failed prophecy on the surface. It was "given" in 1996 and clearly if it meant 1999 Dimitru was a false prophet. You can find it here;

Dumitru Duduman's Prophecies, Dreams & Visions - 5 (ubm1.org)

There are a couple of points I would like to make.

First, when this was shown to Dimitru, he was in the hospital. Who knows what he had been given for pain ect. Who can say how it might have affected him.

Second, satan is the master of deception. Choosing a time like this to slip Dimitru one of his most convincing lies is nothing more than standard procedure for him. Dimitru was shown three stars and asked if he knew what they meant. He answered No. He was then told by the angels; "We won't say exactly, but it probably means that in another three years a great massacre will occur". Then the stars turned into blood, and everything disappeared." PROBABLY??? Now since when does God send a messenger with a message that they either don't know the meaning of or they refuse to say? I mean if God sends you a message wouldn't he want you to get the point?

As I have said, this caused me concern for a while until the above occurred to me. So if this is the reason that rob0126 thinks Dimitru a false prophet, I can understand that. If there is some other failed prophecy, I'd like to know what it is.

On a side note, what if it wasn't three years, but three decades? That would put it in the year 2026.

As far as Duduman was concerned, there were "3 years left" - His own years!
 

Daytonabill0001

Wheat or Tare, which are you?
Some people contend that we are in the mid-trib as of this past October.
Then where's the ten authority figures that controlled ten multi-nation regions and gave their power to the A/C? That has to happen right before the black rider comes. As a matter of fact, has anyone seen him yet?

Most importantly, in order for the trib to start, there must be an appearance of the A/C and Rev 5 states that the redeemed are in Heaven watching Jesus open the 7 sealed scroll. I assure you, the rapture hasn't happened yet... Jesus hasn't opened, much less taken the scroll from His Father Who sits on the Throne.

Again, Apostle John said that "The Redeemed" are in Heaven when Jesus takes the scroll.

No, the trib hasn't even started...

Somebody posted that Duduman hasn't missed a single prophecy yet. I should, um, I will ask...

What prophecies came to pass?
 

Daytonabill0001

Wheat or Tare, which are you?
Dumitru Duduman Russian Invasion of America
Dumitru Duduman was a Romanian pastor that smuggled bible into Russia. He was captured and torchered by the electric chair. When he was close to death Gabriel the arch angel came to him and ministered to him and by the grace of God he was expelled out of Romania.
When he moved to America Dumitru Duduman received a vision from the Lord and Gabriel showed him all of Californian, Las Vegas, New York, Nevada, and Florida and was told that these cities were as Sodom and Gomorrah and that in one day it would burn. He was told that Revelation 17,18 and Ezekiel 38,39 talks of the Russian in invasion of America Mystery Babylon and in one day it will burn.

In one day Russia will attack America by sea and destroy America by nuclear weapons.The people of the Lord are instructed to flee into the wilderness to escape from sudden destruction in the protection of Jesus.
The Nations that will attack and destroy America are Russia, Cuba, Nicaragua, Central America, Mexico, and 2 others that where forgotten but one may be China according to Henry gruver's vision of the destruction of America.
Dumitru Dudaman
The Russian Invasion of America
It was late at night and I couldn't stay inside because of the smell. I was sitting outside on a rock. A light came toward me. The fear of cars came with me. The Romanian Police tried to run over me with cars. That's why I jumped up. The light surrounded me. Out of the light I heard the same voice. It said, "Dumitru, why are you so despaired?"


I said, "Why did you punish me? What did I do that was so rotten that you brought me to the United States? I have nowhere to lie my head down upon. I can't understand anybody."

He said, "Dumitru, didn't I tell you that I am here with you also? I brought you here to this country because this country will burn."

"Then why did you bring me here to burn? Why didn't you let me die in my own country?"

"Dumitru, have patience and I will tell you. Get beside me."

I don't know what it was. Brothers, I got beside the angel. He showed me all of California. He showed me all the cities of California. Then he showed me Las Vegas.

"You see what I have shown you? This is Sodom and Gomorrah. In one day it will burn."

He said, "It's sin has reached the Holy One."

He showed me another great city. He said, "Do you know what city this is?"

I said, "No."

He said, "This is New York City. This is Sodom and Gomorrah. In one day it will burn."

He showed me Florida. He said, "This is Florida. This is Sodom and Gomorrah. In one day it will burn."

He didn't let me say a word until he brought me back to the place we had left. He said, "Now, Dumitru, you can ask me questions."

He said, "I brought you to this country. Dumitru, I want to wake up a lot of people. I love this country. I love the people. I want to save them. America will burn."

I said, "How can I save them? I can't even speak their language? Who knows me here? How will they call me?"

He said, "Don't worry. I will be ahead of you. I will make great healings among the American people. You will go to television stations, radio stations and churches. Tell them everything I tell you. Don't hide anything. If you try to hide anything I will punish you. America will burn."

"How will America burn? It is so powerful."

He said, "The Russian spies have discovered where the most powerful nuclear missiles are in America. It will start with the world calling for 'peace, peace. Then there will be an internal revolution in America, started by the Communists. The government will be busy with internal problems. Then, from the oceans, Russia, Cuba, Nicaragua, Central America, Mexico, and two other countries (which I cannot remember) will attack! The Russians will bombard the nuclear missile silos in America. America will burn.

I said, "What will you do with the church?"

He said, "The church has left me."

I said, "How? Don't you have people here?"

He said, "People in America honor people. The honor that should be given to God, they give to other people. Americans think highly of themselves. They say, 'I serve God,' but they don't. In the church there is divorce, adultery, fornication, sodomy, abortion and all kinds of sin. Jesus Christ doesn't live in sin. He lives in holiness. I brought you here so you could cry out loud. Don't be afraid. I am with you. Tell them to stop sinning. God never stops forgiving. Tell them to repent. He will forgive them. Tell them to start preparing themselves so I can save them in the day of trouble."

If you call me to speak, God loves you. That's what the angel of God told me.

"Whoever I love, I want to wake. I will put on their hearts to call you. Don't hide anything or I will punish you."

Stop sinning and repent. He will forgive and we will have salvation.

I said, "How will you save the Church if America will burn?"

He said, "Tell them as I tell you. As he saved the three young men through the oven of fire, and Daniel from the mouth of the lion, that is how I will save them. Tell them to stop sinning and repent.


"I have blessed this country because of the Jews that are here. I have 7 million Jews here. They haven't tasted war of persecution. God blessed them more than anyone else. Instead of thanking God, they started sinning and doing wickedly. Their sins have reached the Holy one. God will punish them with fire. Israel doesn't recognize the Messiah, because they place their trust on the power of the Jews in America. When God will hit America, all the nations will be terrified.

"God will raise up China, Japan and many other nations and they will beat the Russians. They will push them back to the gates of Paris. There they will make a peace treaty, but they will make the Russians their leader. All the nations with the Russians as their leader go against Israel. It's not that they want to. God makes them.

Israel doesn't have the help of the Jews in America anymore. In their terror, when they see what is coming, they will call upon the Messiah. The Messiah will come to help Israel. Then the church of God will meet Him in the clouds (1 Thes.4:16).

Are you ready to meet Jesus Christ? Are your wedding clothes clean? If there are still spots on the clothes of your soul, then the blood of Jesus Christ still has power to cleanse sins. Jesus Christ will live with the Church on the Mount of Olives. He himself will fight against the nations.

I said, "If you are the angel of God, everything you tell me has to be written in the Bible. If it is not, then I can't tell the Americans."

"Tell them to read Jeremiah 51:8-15. He names it 'The Mystery Babylon, The Great Adulteress.' Also, Revelation Chapter 18, the entire chapter. There it says clearly what will happen to America."

Why did he name it, "The Mystery Babylon"?

"Tell them because all the nations of the world immigrated into America and America accepted them. America accepted Buddha, the devil church, the sodomite church, the Mormon church and all kinds of wickedness. America was a Christian nation. Instead of stopping them, they went after their gods. Because of this, He named them "The Mystery Babylon."

So you know that truly I have been sent by God, tomorrow at 9:00 am, someone will come to give you a bed. At 10:30 someone will come to pay your rent. At noon, someone will bring you a car and give you a bucket of honey."

Brothers, it happened as the angel had said. At 9:00 someone rang my doorbell and said, "I brought you a bed. I could not sleep all night long. God told me that you were from Romania and that you need a bed." At 10:30 someone else rang my doorbell and handed me a check for $500 and said, "God told me to bring you $500." At noon, someone came and gave ma a car and a bucket of honey!

You might say, "Why? We trust in God! We have God on our side! On our dollar bill it has 'In God we trust.' How are our lives? We go after the foreign gods. The American church has adultery, fornication, sodomy, divorce and abortion. If we repent with all of our hearts and call Jesus to help us, we will stop sinning. We know that when Jesus comes we will meet him in the clouds.

The angel also said, "Before the internal problems begin in America, your country (Romania) will have a revolution (fulfilled December 22, 1989).
(Dumitru told me about the revolution in March of 1988 over a year before it occurred.)

I notice that his angel acts like he's God... Angel's don't take charge over lives and they don't get to pronounce judgement on anybody, much less an entire nation. See the story of Lot and notice that the Lord did the judging of Sodom and took the righteous out of Sodom.

Reminds me of the story of how Moroni founded Mormonism...
 

rob0126

Veteran Member
Whoa,! Whoa! Whoa! rob0126 and I have a matter for discussion. It IS biblical to question the spirit making any kind of statement that is said to come from The Lord. That is what we are doing. No blood, no foul. I respect honest questioning even if it doesn't match my beliefs. That is how we learn.

rob0126, the question has been raised of can you dismiss a man, who many believe a prophet, just because someone else associated with him is not to your liking. Remember the servant of Elijah? I have never met Stan Johnson and do not dare to say anything against him. I DO have reasons to be concerned, but will not judge him. That's not my job. It is a fair question. i.e. Why didn't The Lord show David the heart of Absalom? Surely The Lord knew Absalom's heart. But He didn't tell David. I believe we are to have discernment about the things going on around us and not depend on the opinions of other men. So we come back to the first question. Which prophecy of Dimitru Duduman do you have a problem with?In terms of the lies in the dreams of factual circumstance?

First off, about Stan:

I won't go into detail on an open forum about our private dealings with stan.
But thru those dealings and email correspondings, we know he is a scammer, and a very rude and obnoxious person when you get on his bad side. He also believes he is self important.

But about DD:

here you can read about the things DD said that an 'angel' told him, that did not come to pass.
(At subtitle heading : "In terms of the lies in the dreams of factual circumstance:")

If DD really talked to holy angels in his visions, what they told him would have come to pass;
It did not.

"...In one instance the angels allegedly told a sick Dumitru Duduman that he would be healed to preach again for a long time and that when he did eventually die, his ministry would be continued by his wife. (This idea of keeping a ministry in the family is not Biblical in itself, another thing that troubles me about this clan of prophets.)..."

(Omitting the writing quote that would be between these too lines of text. You can see it at the link.)

"...Anyway these predictions given to him regarding his wife taking over the ministry were proven false 4 to 5 months later when his wife died. He then died several months later, all of this proving that these angels were wrong."

That by itself is enough to disqualify him from being a prophet of God.
If it was an angel he was talking to, then it was not holy.

And at that same link, his timing of the very end has long since past.
"He also gave key dates for a Russia-chinese invasion of the USA and then the end of the world which dates have long since passed. In August 1991 he claimed he saw the back of a book in a vision and counted out 4 remaining blank pages at the end.
“When these (pages) are filled,” the angel said, “the book of the Gentiles will be complete. Then I will return to my people.’
(There are some mixed up thoughts there between the angel and the Lord Jesus Christ, indicating the untrustworthiness of the vision. If it had been Christ appearing as an angel, or as like a son of man, there would have been a lot more awe and wonder on Duduman’s part, there are quite a few cases of similar slips of storyline like this in his other visions, which just would not happen if you are relaying a fully truthful account.
(Such slips of logic like this and inconsistencies of fact are normally indications someone is lying - they have not thought through their story well enough. This is the stuff police detectives look for when testing an alibi.)

In January 1996, in a vision, Duduman said:

Two men ’opened a great book and said, “Do you remember how many pages were left to fill when I showed you last time? Now, there is but one page left. When this is completed, what I have told you will happen …..” The man proceeded to tell me that the time it would take for this page to be filled, would not be longer, but shorter.‘

The time between these visions is four and a half years, and Dumitru Dudman claims it will be less time than these four and a half years before the end of the time of the Gentiles and the return of Christ.
Well, at the time of writing this articles, it is twelve years now, so these visions and their source, are patently false."

Thats 2 strikes at least. (But we only needed 1)

There is more at that link; excerpts from his own writings.

So there is the truth.
 
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Imrik

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Ok ok , the reason I brought this up is because it looks like the country is about to explode. AND it WAS started by communists /Marxists
 

rob0126

Veteran Member
Ok ok , the reason I brought this up is because it looks like the country is about to explode. AND it WAS started by communists /Marxists

Theirs not much doubt that communism is a mechanism in americas destruction.

People could predict that decades ago with them taking over the universities and public schools.

I personally believe it will be russia leading the charge to destroy america.

Im just praying God withholds his due judgment on america and cleans house.
 

day late

money? whats that?
Sorry, the meat world got in the way yesterday and I couldn't make it back. Even now, I'm about out the door. I shall return.
 

bassgirl

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More and more I am convinced the America is Babylon. We have the highest number of Jewish people outside of Israel itself. Just the things we do and the city that is described in Revelation sounds a whole hella lot like NYC. Its the financial, textile, one if the biggest ports of shipping, its cutting edge with new technology. Its one of the oldest cities. We are the most christianized country in the world. And we are no where near what the NT church used to be. We are most likely the church of ladodicia. Can I prove it...no. But can you fit in any other country or city that fits the images better?

Also in the theme of this thread, i have premonitions sometimes. Not as much as I did when younger but the come at times. I also had a dream about 10 years ago...My whole family was lined up in my brothers front yard. My Son and ex husband were on my left, and the rest of my family (bother,SIL, neices nephews) were on my right. We watched as a troup of paramilitary style people dressed in all black with black back packs were working their way along the house next door. Rooting people out.I was very scared, we were under attack and this was not good. They shot my nephew in the stomach and I knew they were going to shoot all of us. I woke up at that moment in a panic. The thing that was weird about it was this...

My son has since died and so has my ex. (On my left) my nephew has since been diagnosed diabetic. The same one that was shot. And the military people looked exactly like what I see with Antifa on the TV.

So what does it all mean since it is so vague? I don’t know. But God felt I needed to be warned about something and pointed out the time frame by my left and right hand, my ex died 2 years ago. My son several years ago. And that it was not a good thing that is coming. Its a warning for some reason that I have yet to determine and God wanted me aware of it for some reason.
 

Harvey101

Contributing Member
to Summarize
So if civil war breaks out starting in the middle of the country and China uses that massive force which,they have assembled around Taiwan as a guise to attack America. Then all those Chinese troops spotted in Canada ,Mexico ,Cuba and throughout South America pour in from the positions Mr. Duduman listed California, Texas, Fla. Alaska etc.

then Russia will strike with unstoppable satan 2’s and join with the Chinese,Cubans, Venezuelans etc. to invade our country.

And later he says they will suddenly run away. I wonder what he is talking about?
 
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