FASCISM Joe Biden Proposes Reviving Obama Social Security Gun Ban

colonel holman

Veteran Member
And the next thing you know every person who walks into a psychologist or therapist office is reported

Crap like this just lays the groundwork for further infringement

They are lining up several of these. How many Americans take basic antidepressants or antianxiety meds? How many have medical cannabis cards? How many have an OUI? The list will grow. Wholesale blocks of Americans that will face gun bans. Some have even said US Veterans are all at risk of PTSD, even from Basic training traumas
 

hiwall

Has No Life - Lives on TB
No one has even talked about this yet. And Trump is still our President.
Also the last group I would want to get mad is a whole bunch of armed old people who don't care if they die as long as they can go down fighting.
 

ainitfunny

Saved, to glorify God.
So, you think 60 IQ people longterm taking multiple psychoactive medications to keep their schizophrenia partially under control should own firearms, drive on the Interstate Highways, vote, serve on juries trying capital crimes or Constitutional cases, marry and produce children that they raise, etc. We're going to differ on that one. P.S. 60 years ago, in a clearly freer, healthier U.S., those sorts mostly didn't get to do those, typically being restrained in some way. Now, they're apparently considered heroic and a potential voting bloc for the Democrats. Interesting...
Your reply is a “CLASSIC STRAW MAN ARGUMENT” (look it up!) which means your arguement is TOO WEAK to stand on its own merits! YOU LOSE THE DEBATE WITH THAT!
You cannot fairly defend your position
 
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MinnesotaSmith

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Your reply is a “CLASSIC STRAW MAN ARGUEMENT” (look it up!) which means your arguement is TOO WEAK to stand on its own merits! YOU LOSE THE DEBATE WITH THAT!
You cannot fairly defend your position
I'm sorry if my sentences are too long for you to easily follow, but I'm not going to take the time to rewrite them for you. Anyone that wants gross retards to do everything normal adults commonly do, likely applauds incontinent autistic children daily screaming and flopping around while"mainstreamed" in a high school AP Calculus class.
 

ainitfunny

Saved, to glorify God.
I'm sorry if my sentences are too long for you to easily follow, but I'm not going to take the time to rewrite them for you. Anyone that wants gross retards to do everything normal adults commonly do, likely applauds incontinent autistic children daily screaming and flopping around while"mainstreamed" in a high school AP Calculus class.
You Are STILL using straw man arguments in this post ALSO!
Cant you make a point without posturing such extreme, weak, easily defeated, Examples as your opponent’s beliefs?
You seem to assert that you are the only one with common sense and entirely miss the threat posed by how this legislation can be liberally interpreted and used to strip YOU of not only your guns, but your income, finances, Property, and legal rights!
 
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MinnesotaSmith

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You Are STILL using straw man arguments in this post ALSO!
Cant you make a point without posturing such extreme, easily defeated, Examples as your opponent’s beliefs?
A competent debater would be familiar with the concept of using apt counterexamples in rebutting and defense. You should come back to this thread after reading up on them.
 

et2

Has No Life - Lives on TB
COVID .... It’s the Trojan horse. They have been ramping up the mental health issues CV19 is causing ... a lot lately. Heard it talked about many times on TV the last couple of days. They will come for the guns declaring a national metal health emergency due to staying home and job loses, etc., and the need to protect us from our guns and harm they could pose ourselves, families and neighbors.

Perfect timing when they have us locked in our homes and can’t leave or travel.
 

Rebel_Yell

Senior Member
Infringement is the name of the game in the Demoncrat ZUSA.

Infringement is the name of the game in the Federal Government.

The Whiskey Rebellion in Pennsylvania happened while George Washington was still in office. The Federal Government instituted a tax on whisky, which was not popular. What was even less popular was the fact that larger producers paid less tax per gallon than the smaller producers .

Producers ended up being forced to pay, and blood was shed.

Some of these folks had fought for their freedom just a few short years before.
 

Double_A

TB Fanatic
So, you think 60 IQ people longterm taking multiple psychoactive medications to keep their schizophrenia partially under control should own firearms, drive on the Interstate Highways, vote, serve on juries trying capital crimes or Constitutional cases, marry and produce children that they raise, etc. We're going to differ on that one. P.S. 60 years ago, in a clearly freer, healthier U.S., those sorts mostly didn't get to do those, typically being restrained in some way. Now, they're apparently considered heroic and a potential voting bloc for the Democrats. Interesting...

Most states have legal processes in place that if someone thinks a person is incompetent... they can be declared so after evaluation and discussing with witnesses (heirs/family) in court during a hearing. Do we know what if any rights a person would have under this law?
 

bluelady

Veteran Member
I had to do my own Red Flag on my Dad. He was approching end stage Alzheimer's and while not violent, he started getting paranoid. I had to take all the big knives out of their house, without him knowing, and I took his pistol. He did ask about it, and I told him I had it in my safe. I said I would show it to him, if he wanted. He dropped the subject at that point
That's how theses things *should* be handled: cases-by-case basis, by those who know & care about them, their issues, and their needs.
 

MinnesotaSmith

Membership Revoked
Most states have legal processes in place that if someone thinks a person is incompetent... they can be declared so after evaluation and discussing with witnesses (heirs/family) in court during a hearing. Do we know what if any rights a person would have under this law?
Applied thoroughly, easily 40% of blacks and 25% of Hispanics (to say nothing of homosexuals, feminists, and Muslims) are observably seriously retarded and/or just plain screwballs. When even 1/4th of each of those subgroups get declared legally incompetent, I'd love to hear about it.
 

PghPanther

Has No Life - Lives on TB
You don't agree with the socialist agenda in the destruction of this constitutional republic?

Then you are mentally ill.............

Therefore you have lost your 2nd amendment rights........

There.........see how easy it it for the commies to rationalize gun control?
 

homepark

Resist
An example of SS 'adjudication': when my wife was first turned down for SSDI, our attorney got a copy of her files. The official claim had her personal information, but was completely blank between there and the rejection signature of the bureaucrat. Anyone wanna trust them for due process?
 

Publius

TB Fanatic
It's an attempt to end around Due-Process of Law! Government must show a compelling interest to strip a citizen of any of their rights, in other words a full blown court trial, it's just most don't know this and the government just walks over you, until they come across a citizen that knows better and stands up to them and do it without a lawyer as you don't need a lawyer to defend your rights in a court of law.


Around and around we go and it still comes down to what I posted and being smart enough to remember it and use it should it come to this.
 
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