DEEP STATE The Beginning of the Great Reset

ExCop

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The Beginning of the Great Reset

Posted on November 12, 2020 by DRenegade


The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's  money – Margaret Thatcher - Quotes

The context of the great reset:
The Covid-19 crisis, and the political, economic and social disruptions it has caused, is fundamentally changing the traditional context for decision-making. The inconsistencies, inadequacies and contradictions of multiple systems –from health and financial to energy and education – are more exposed than ever amidst a global context of concern for lives, livelihoods and the planet. Leaders find themselves at a historic crossroads, managing short-term pressures against medium- and long-term uncertainties.

Any scheme to increase power has the name of the plan or legislation couched in innocuous terms. People are easily misled by such names as The Patriot Act or The Affordable Care Act. The latest scheme is a global initiative called The Great Reset. This reset will redistribute wealth and political power from the middle class to the new super elite. How will they accomplish this redistribution? Using the same approach as they always do: they couch it in such a way as to be helping the people.
Here is part of the plan:

A member of President-elect Joe Biden’s coronavirus task force said Wednesday that the US could manage the pandemic by enforcing an extended economic lockdown with the government compensating workers for lost wages.
Sounds good to most people: stay at home for 4-6 weeks to control the pandemic with pay. Where would the money come from to pay for this forced imprisonment? The hypothetically anointed Biden administration would “borrow” from people’s personal savings accounts.
Osterholm said the federal government is in a prime position to use borrowed money to pay for such a lockdown package.
“When you look at the personal savings rate in this country, it’s now gone from about 8 percent to over 22 percent,” Osterholm said. “We have a big pool of money out there that we could borrow.”


I wonder if this would include IRA and retirement accounts? We are at the endgame: if we lose, our children will become serfs to the elite. That assumes that our children will be “allowed” to serve because the elite’s final solution is the same as Nazi Germany’s final solution.
David DeGerolamo
 

PghPanther

Has No Life - Lives on TB
I don't get this elite/'deep state depopulation conspiracy ideas................there are all kinds of things out there assumed to be a depopulation of the planet they have implemented (aka HAARP, chem trails, vaccines, 5G networks........on and on).....

....but none of it seems to be making any dent into the population as we actually net an increase of 250K more people everyday that are born on this planet than end up dying...........

.........(consider that for a moment.........250,000 more mouths to feed and waste to circulate every single day)

So along comes this so called virus that spreads like a cold and the elite/deep state whatever you want to call them it is trying to keep us all shut down to prevent the spread of it?..............

Why wouldn't the elite just say its a simple virus that spreads easy and to ignore it..............(hoping it would kill off a lot of people)........of course its not killing off a lot of people but if the elites are all about depopulation you'd think they'd keep the whole idea of a pandemic under wraps....

I understand how it could be an excuse for a reset on a economy that is based on infinite growth on a finite planet needing a reset but in the area of depopulation its not a contributor to their goals.

Granted I"m not for this......but curious what really is the play if at all by this deep state out there.............

I'm open to thoughts on that........
 
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PghPanther

Has No Life - Lives on TB
AMEN! Wife and I have escaped the grip of the banking system and only maintain what's needed for bills. The term, "If you don't hold it, you don't own it" has never been more true.

I'm curious..........say I would have 250K in my checking account at a big bank...........so I withdraw all of it and leave maybe 5k in the bank for monthly bills and only keep that balance moving forward.

What do I do with the rest of the 245K in cash?...............if I keep it in federal reserved notes stashed somewhere if there is a big reset the I would lose the value of that the same as if it is in a bank.

Do I risk the idea of putting it in hard metals?.......real estate?.............what would hold value if there is a reset that could cause a economic collapse or even social breakdown?

The most important commodities in the world are first ........clean water to drink............and second food to sustain life.........after that nothing has no value in barter if you can't drink or eat it to survive..........

Granted if the reset only destroys fiat money (aka dollars) then would in fact metals, real estate or other items like that hold their value?

Then after the reset whatever becomes the new standard for a monetary barter (aka a new dollar type note) do you convert your assets back into that?

I mean if I take that money and buy gold................I can't go to a car dealer and plop down say 30K in gold as payment in full for a new vehicle.................so what is the point of holding value if you can't barter it for a commodity that is accepted for all public and private debts?

Open to any feedback on this...............
 

Sid Vicious

Veteran Member
I don't get this elite/'deep state depopulation conspiracy ideas................there are all kinds of things out there assumed to be a depopulation of the planet they have implemented (aka HAARP, chem trails, vaccines, 5G networks........on and on).....

....but none of it seems to be making any dent into the population as we actually net an increase of 250K more people everyday that are born on this planet than end up dying...........

.........(consider that for a moment.........250,000 more mouths to feed and waste to circulate every single day)

So along comes this so called virus that spreads like a cold and the elite/deep state whatever you want to call them it is trying to keep us all shut down to prevent the spread of it?..............

Why wouldn't the elite just say its a simple virus that spreads easy and to ignore it..............(hoping it would kill off a lot of people)........of course its not killing off a lot of people but if the elites are all about depopulation you'd think they'd keep the whole idea of a pandemic under wraps....

I understand how it could be an excuse for a reset on a economy that is based on infinite growth on a finite planet needing a reset but in the area of depopulation its not a contributor to their goals.

Granted I"m not for this......but curious what really is the play if at all by this deep state out there.............

I'm open to thoughts on that........

Arrogance, plain and simple. They are better than you. Their plans are the best. They will have no issues controlling us. Its for our own good. etc...

I don't think it will go the way they think.
 

Plain Jane

Just Plain Jane

"Own Nothing And Be Happy": The Great Reset's Vision Of The Future
Profile picture for user Tyler Durden
by Tyler Durden
Fri, 11/13/2020 - 03:30
TwitterFacebookRedditEmailPrint

Authored by Colin Todhunter via Off-Guardian.org,
The World Economic Forum’s (WEF) annual meeting at the end of January in Davos, Switzerland, brings together international business and political leaders, economists and other high-profile individuals to discuss global issues.

Driven by the vision of its influential CEO Klaus Schwab, the WEF is the main driving force for the dystopian ‘great reset’, a tectonic shift that intends to change how we live, work and interact with each other.

The great reset entails a transformation of society resulting in permanent restrictions on fundamental liberties and mass surveillance as entire sectors are sacrificed to boost the monopoly and hegemony of pharmaceuticals corporations, high-tech/big data giants, Amazon, Google, major global chains, the digital payments sector, biotech concerns, etc.

Using COVID-19 lockdowns and restrictions to push through this transformation, the great reset is being rolled out under the guise of a ‘Fourth Industrial Revolution’ in which older enterprises are to be driven to bankruptcy or absorbed into monopolies, effectively shutting down huge sections of the pre-COVID economy. Economies are being ‘restructured’ and many jobs will be carried out by AI-driven machines.

In a short video showcased on social media, the WEF predicts that by 2030, “You’ll own nothing and you’ll be happy.”

A happy smiling face is depicted while a drone delivers a product to a household, no doubt ordered online and packaged by a robot in a giant Amazon warehouse: ‘no humans were involved in manufacturing, packaging or delivering this product’; rest assured, it is virus- and bacteria-free – because even in 2030, they will need to keep the fear narrative alive and well to maintain full-spectrum dominance over the population.

The jobless (and there will be many) could be placed on some kind of universal basic income and have their debts (indebtedness and bankruptcy on a massive scale is the deliberate result of lockdowns and restrictions) written off in return for handing their assets to the state or more precisely the financial institutions helping to drive this great reset.

The WEF says the public will ‘rent’ everything they require: stripping the right of ownership under the guise of ‘sustainable consumption’ and ‘saving the planet’. Of course, the tiny elite who rolled out this great reset will own everything.

Hundreds of millions around the world deemed ‘surplus to requirements’ are to be robbed (are currently being robbed) of their livelihoods. Our every movement and purchase are to be monitored and our main dealings will be online.

The plan for individual citizens could reflect the strategy to be applied to nation states. For instance, World Bank Group President David Malpass has stated that poorer countries will be ‘helped’ to get back on their feet after the various lockdowns that have been implemented. This ‘help’ will be on condition that neoliberal reforms and the undermining of public services are implemented and become further embedded.

On 20 April, the Wall Street Journal ran the headline ‘IMF, World Bank Face Deluge of Aid Requests From Developing World‘. Scores of countries are asking for bailouts and loans from financial institutions with $1.2 trillion to lend. An ideal recipe for fuelling dependency.
In return for debt relief or ‘support’, global conglomerates along with the likes of Bill Gates will be able to further dictate national policies and hollow out the remnants of nation state sovereignty.


IDENTITY AND MEANING
What will happen to our social and personal identity? Is that to be eradicated in the quest to commodify and standardise human behaviour and everything we do?

The billionaire class who are pushing this agenda think they can own nature and all humans and can control both, whether through geoengineering the atmosphere, for example, genetically modifying soil microbes or doing a better job than nature by producing bio-synthesised fake food in a lab.

They think they can bring history to a close and reinvent the wheel by reshaping what it means to be human. And they think they can achieve this by 2030. It is a cold dystopian vision that wants to eradicate thousands of years of culture, tradition and practices virtually overnight.

And many of those cultures, traditions and practices relate to food and how we produce it and our deep-rooted connections to nature. Consider that many of the ancient rituals and celebrations of our forebears were built around stories and myths that helped them come to terms with some of the most basic issues of existence, from death to rebirth and fertility. These culturally embedded beliefs and practices served to sanctify their practical relationship with nature and its role in sustaining human life.


As agriculture became key to human survival, the planting and harvesting of crops and other seasonal activities associated with food production were central to these customs. Freyfaxi marks the beginning of the harvest in Norse paganism, for example, while Lammas or Lughnasadh is the celebration of the first harvest/grain harvest in Paganism.

Humans celebrated nature and the life it gave birth to. Ancient beliefs and rituals were imbued with hope and renewal and people had a necessary and immediate relationship with the sun, seeds, animals, wind, fire, soil and rain and the changing seasons that nourished and brought life. Our cultural and social relationships with agrarian production and associated deities had a sound practical base.

Prof Robert W Nicholls explains that the cults of Woden and Thor were superimposed on far older and better-rooted beliefs related to the sun and the earth, the crops and the animals and the rotation of the seasons between the light and warmth of summer and the cold and dark of winter.

We need look no further than India to appreciate the important relationship between culture, agriculture and ecology, not least the vital importance of the monsoon and seasonal planting and harvesting. Rural-based beliefs and rituals steeped in nature persist, even among urban Indians. These are bound to traditional knowledge systems where livelihoods, the seasons, food, cooking, processing, seed exchange, healthcare and the passing on of knowledge are all inter-related and form the essence of cultural diversity within India itself.


Although the industrial age resulted in a diminution of the connection between food and the natural environment as people moved to cities, traditional ‘food cultures’ – the practices, attitudes and beliefs surrounding the production, distribution and consumption of food – still thrive and highlight our ongoing connection to agriculture and nature.

‘HAND OF GOD’ IMPERIALISM
If we go back to the 1950s, it is interesting to note Union Carbide’s corporate narrative based on a series of images that depicted the company as a ‘hand of god’ coming out of the sky to ‘solve’ some of the issues facing humanity. One of the most famous images is of the hand pouring the firm’s agrochemicals on Indian soils as if traditional farming practices were somehow ‘backward’.

Despite well-publicised claims to the contrary, this chemical-driven approach did not lead to higher food production according to the paper New Histories of the Green Revolution written by Prof Glenn Stone. However, it has had long-term devastating ecological, social and economic consequences (see Vandana Shiva’s book The Violence of the Green Revolution and Bhaskar Save’s now famous and highly insightful open letter to Indian officials).

In the book Food and Cultural Studies’ (Bob Ashley et al), we see how, some years ago, a Coca Cola TV ad campaign sold its product to an audience which associated modernity with a sugary drink and depicted ancient Aboriginal beliefs as harmful, ignorant and outdated. Coke and not rain became the giver of life to the parched. This type of ideology forms part of a wider strategy to discredit traditional cultures and portray them as being deficient and in need of assistance from ‘god-like’ corporations.

What we are seeing in 2020, is an acceleration of such processes. In terms of food and agriculture, traditional farming in places like India will be under increasing pressure from the big-tech giants and agribusiness to open up to lab-grown food, GMOs, genetically engineered soil microbes, data harvesting tools and drones and other ‘disruptive’ technologies.

The great reset includes farmerless farms being manned by driverless machines, monitored by drones and doused with chemicals to produce commodity crops from patented GM seeds for industrial ‘biomatter’ to be processed and constituted into something resembling food. What will happen to the farmers?

Post-COVID, the World Bank talks about helping countries get back on track in return for structural reforms. Are tens of millions of smallholder farmers to be enticed from their land in return for individual debt relief and universal basic income? The displacement of these farmers and the subsequent destruction of rural communities and their cultures was something the Gates Foundation once called for and cynically termed “land mobility”.

Cut through the euphemisms and it is clear that Bill Gates – and the other incredibly rich individuals behind the great reset – is an old-fashioned colonialist who supports the time-honoured dispossessive strategies of imperialism, whether this involves mining, appropriating and commodifying farmer knowledge, accelerating the transfer of research and seeds to corporations or facilitating intellectual property piracy and seed monopolies created through IP laws and seed regulations.

In places like India – still an agrarian-based society – will the land of these already (prior to COVID) heavily indebted farmers then be handed over to the tech giants, the financial institutions and global agribusiness to churn out their high-tech, data-driven GM industrial sludge? Is this part of the ‘own nothing, be happy’ bland brave new world being promoted by the WEF?

With the link completely severed between food production, nature and culturally embedded beliefs that give meaning and expression to life, we will be left with the individual human who exists on lab-based food, who is reliant on income from the state and who is stripped of satisfying productive endeavour and genuine self-fulfilment.

Technocratic meddling has already destroyed or undermined cultural diversity, meaningful social connections and agrarian ecosystems that draw on centuries of traditional knowledge and are increasingly recognised as valid approaches to secure food security (for example, see Food Security and Traditional Knowledge in India in the Journal of South Asian Studies).

The massive technocratic transformation currently envisaged regards humans as commodities to be controlled and monitored just like the lifeless technological drones and AI being promoted.

But do not worry – you will be property-less and happy in your open prison of mass unemployment, state dependency, track and chip health passports, cashlessness, mass vaccination and dehumanisation.
 

NCGirl

Veteran Member
If you have the majority of your cash in the bank and you've been paying attention for more than 2 weeks you probably deserve what you get.

Are you suggesting we pull all our money out of investments and have money buried all over the yard or have hundreds of pounds of gold coins/bars sitting around or are we supposed to buy more rentals so people can not pay us the rent? Where do you put your money where it will be safe? I am concerned about this. But what is a safe way to store your investments? Just damn.
 

NCGirl

Veteran Member
AMEN! Wife and I have escaped the grip of the banking system and only maintain what's needed for bills. The term, "If you don't hold it, you don't own it" has never been more true.

So if you don't mind me asking what did you do with your money/investments if you are no longer using the banking system? I'm really interested in what people are doing!
 

billet

Veteran Member
I'm curious..........say I would have 250K in my checking account at a big bank...........so I withdraw all of it and leave maybe 5k in the bank for monthly bills and only keep that balance moving forward.

What do I do with the rest of the 245K in cash?...............if I keep it in federal reserved notes stashed somewhere if there is a big reset the I would lose the value of that the same as if it is in a bank.

Do I risk the idea of putting it in hard metals?.......real estate?.............what would hold value if there is a reset that could cause a economic collapse or even social breakdown?

The most important commodities in the world are first ........clean water to drink............and second food to sustain life.........after that nothing has no value in barter if you can't drink or eat it to survive..........

Granted if the reset only destroys fiat money (aka dollars) then would in fact metals, real estate or other items like that hold their value?

Then after the reset whatever becomes the new standard for a monetary barter (aka a new dollar type note) do you convert your assets back into that?

I mean if I take that money and buy gold................I can't go to a car dealer and plop down say 30K in gold as payment in full for a new vehicle.................so what is the point of holding value if you can't barter it for a commodity that is accepted for all public and private debts?

Open to any feedback on this...............
Some cash on hand and the rest PM's. Personally, I believe that the bottom is going to fall out of real estate, and that there will be epic bargains to be had when (and if) the smoke clears.
 

mikeabn

Finally not a lurker!

"Own Nothing And Be Happy": The Great Reset's Vision Of The Future
Profile picture for user Tyler Durden
by Tyler Durden
Fri, 11/13/2020 - 03:30
TwitterFacebookRedditEmailPrint

Authored by Colin Todhunter via Off-Guardian.org,
The World Economic Forum’s (WEF) annual meeting at the end of January in Davos, Switzerland, brings together international business and political leaders, economists and other high-profile individuals to discuss global issues.

Driven by the vision of its influential CEO Klaus Schwab, the WEF is the main driving force for the dystopian ‘great reset’, a tectonic shift that intends to change how we live, work and interact with each other.

The great reset entails a transformation of society resulting in permanent restrictions on fundamental liberties and mass surveillance as entire sectors are sacrificed to boost the monopoly and hegemony of pharmaceuticals corporations, high-tech/big data giants, Amazon, Google, major global chains, the digital payments sector, biotech concerns, etc.

Using COVID-19 lockdowns and restrictions to push through this transformation, the great reset is being rolled out under the guise of a ‘Fourth Industrial Revolution’ in which older enterprises are to be driven to bankruptcy or absorbed into monopolies, effectively shutting down huge sections of the pre-COVID economy. Economies are being ‘restructured’ and many jobs will be carried out by AI-driven machines.

In a short video showcased on social media, the WEF predicts that by 2030, “You’ll own nothing and you’ll be happy.”

A happy smiling face is depicted while a drone delivers a product to a household, no doubt ordered online and packaged by a robot in a giant Amazon warehouse: ‘no humans were involved in manufacturing, packaging or delivering this product’; rest assured, it is virus- and bacteria-free – because even in 2030, they will need to keep the fear narrative alive and well to maintain full-spectrum dominance over the population.

The jobless (and there will be many) could be placed on some kind of universal basic income and have their debts (indebtedness and bankruptcy on a massive scale is the deliberate result of lockdowns and restrictions) written off in return for handing their assets to the state or more precisely the financial institutions helping to drive this great reset.

The WEF says the public will ‘rent’ everything they require: stripping the right of ownership under the guise of ‘sustainable consumption’ and ‘saving the planet’. Of course, the tiny elite who rolled out this great reset will own everything.

Hundreds of millions around the world deemed ‘surplus to requirements’ are to be robbed (are currently being robbed) of their livelihoods. Our every movement and purchase are to be monitored and our main dealings will be online.

The plan for individual citizens could reflect the strategy to be applied to nation states. For instance, World Bank Group President David Malpass has stated that poorer countries will be ‘helped’ to get back on their feet after the various lockdowns that have been implemented. This ‘help’ will be on condition that neoliberal reforms and the undermining of public services are implemented and become further embedded.

On 20 April, the Wall Street Journal ran the headline ‘IMF, World Bank Face Deluge of Aid Requests From Developing World‘. Scores of countries are asking for bailouts and loans from financial institutions with $1.2 trillion to lend. An ideal recipe for fuelling dependency.
In return for debt relief or ‘support’, global conglomerates along with the likes of Bill Gates will be able to further dictate national policies and hollow out the remnants of nation state sovereignty.


IDENTITY AND MEANING
What will happen to our social and personal identity? Is that to be eradicated in the quest to commodify and standardise human behaviour and everything we do?

The billionaire class who are pushing this agenda think they can own nature and all humans and can control both, whether through geoengineering the atmosphere, for example, genetically modifying soil microbes or doing a better job than nature by producing bio-synthesised fake food in a lab.

They think they can bring history to a close and reinvent the wheel by reshaping what it means to be human. And they think they can achieve this by 2030. It is a cold dystopian vision that wants to eradicate thousands of years of culture, tradition and practices virtually overnight.

And many of those cultures, traditions and practices relate to food and how we produce it and our deep-rooted connections to nature. Consider that many of the ancient rituals and celebrations of our forebears were built around stories and myths that helped them come to terms with some of the most basic issues of existence, from death to rebirth and fertility. These culturally embedded beliefs and practices served to sanctify their practical relationship with nature and its role in sustaining human life.


As agriculture became key to human survival, the planting and harvesting of crops and other seasonal activities associated with food production were central to these customs. Freyfaxi marks the beginning of the harvest in Norse paganism, for example, while Lammas or Lughnasadh is the celebration of the first harvest/grain harvest in Paganism.

Humans celebrated nature and the life it gave birth to. Ancient beliefs and rituals were imbued with hope and renewal and people had a necessary and immediate relationship with the sun, seeds, animals, wind, fire, soil and rain and the changing seasons that nourished and brought life. Our cultural and social relationships with agrarian production and associated deities had a sound practical base.

Prof Robert W Nicholls explains that the cults of Woden and Thor were superimposed on far older and better-rooted beliefs related to the sun and the earth, the crops and the animals and the rotation of the seasons between the light and warmth of summer and the cold and dark of winter.

We need look no further than India to appreciate the important relationship between culture, agriculture and ecology, not least the vital importance of the monsoon and seasonal planting and harvesting. Rural-based beliefs and rituals steeped in nature persist, even among urban Indians. These are bound to traditional knowledge systems where livelihoods, the seasons, food, cooking, processing, seed exchange, healthcare and the passing on of knowledge are all inter-related and form the essence of cultural diversity within India itself.


Although the industrial age resulted in a diminution of the connection between food and the natural environment as people moved to cities, traditional ‘food cultures’ – the practices, attitudes and beliefs surrounding the production, distribution and consumption of food – still thrive and highlight our ongoing connection to agriculture and nature.

‘HAND OF GOD’ IMPERIALISM
If we go back to the 1950s, it is interesting to note Union Carbide’s corporate narrative based on a series of images that depicted the company as a ‘hand of god’ coming out of the sky to ‘solve’ some of the issues facing humanity. One of the most famous images is of the hand pouring the firm’s agrochemicals on Indian soils as if traditional farming practices were somehow ‘backward’.

Despite well-publicised claims to the contrary, this chemical-driven approach did not lead to higher food production according to the paper New Histories of the Green Revolution written by Prof Glenn Stone. However, it has had long-term devastating ecological, social and economic consequences (see Vandana Shiva’s book The Violence of the Green Revolution and Bhaskar Save’s now famous and highly insightful open letter to Indian officials).

In the book Food and Cultural Studies’ (Bob Ashley et al), we see how, some years ago, a Coca Cola TV ad campaign sold its product to an audience which associated modernity with a sugary drink and depicted ancient Aboriginal beliefs as harmful, ignorant and outdated. Coke and not rain became the giver of life to the parched. This type of ideology forms part of a wider strategy to discredit traditional cultures and portray them as being deficient and in need of assistance from ‘god-like’ corporations.

What we are seeing in 2020, is an acceleration of such processes. In terms of food and agriculture, traditional farming in places like India will be under increasing pressure from the big-tech giants and agribusiness to open up to lab-grown food, GMOs, genetically engineered soil microbes, data harvesting tools and drones and other ‘disruptive’ technologies.

The great reset includes farmerless farms being manned by driverless machines, monitored by drones and doused with chemicals to produce commodity crops from patented GM seeds for industrial ‘biomatter’ to be processed and constituted into something resembling food. What will happen to the farmers?

Post-COVID, the World Bank talks about helping countries get back on track in return for structural reforms. Are tens of millions of smallholder farmers to be enticed from their land in return for individual debt relief and universal basic income? The displacement of these farmers and the subsequent destruction of rural communities and their cultures was something the Gates Foundation once called for and cynically termed “land mobility”.

Cut through the euphemisms and it is clear that Bill Gates – and the other incredibly rich individuals behind the great reset – is an old-fashioned colonialist who supports the time-honoured dispossessive strategies of imperialism, whether this involves mining, appropriating and commodifying farmer knowledge, accelerating the transfer of research and seeds to corporations or facilitating intellectual property piracy and seed monopolies created through IP laws and seed regulations.

In places like India – still an agrarian-based society – will the land of these already (prior to COVID) heavily indebted farmers then be handed over to the tech giants, the financial institutions and global agribusiness to churn out their high-tech, data-driven GM industrial sludge? Is this part of the ‘own nothing, be happy’ bland brave new world being promoted by the WEF?

With the link completely severed between food production, nature and culturally embedded beliefs that give meaning and expression to life, we will be left with the individual human who exists on lab-based food, who is reliant on income from the state and who is stripped of satisfying productive endeavour and genuine self-fulfilment.

Technocratic meddling has already destroyed or undermined cultural diversity, meaningful social connections and agrarian ecosystems that draw on centuries of traditional knowledge and are increasingly recognised as valid approaches to secure food security (for example, see Food Security and Traditional Knowledge in India in the Journal of South Asian Studies).

The massive technocratic transformation currently envisaged regards humans as commodities to be controlled and monitored just like the lifeless technological drones and AI being promoted.

But do not worry – you will be property-less and happy in your open prison of mass unemployment, state dependency, track and chip health passports, cashlessness, mass vaccination and dehumanisation.
YOU will own nothing. Betcha certain others will own EVERYTHING.
 

Terrwyn

Veteran Member
Are you suggesting we pull all our money out of investments and have money buried all over the yard or have hundreds of pounds of gold coins/bars sitting around or are we supposed to buy more rentals so people can not pay us the rent? Where do you put your money where it will be safe? I am concerned about this. But what is a safe way to store your investments? Just damn.
It is always people that have no money telling us how dangerous banks are. There are no completely safe investments however. The sane financial advice is to diversify. A little here, a little there, and there is nothing wrong with some buried treasure.
 

Thinwater

Firearms Manufacturer
So if you don't mind me asking what did you do with your money/investments if you are no longer using the banking system? I'm really interested in what people are doing!
The few with money "Out of the banking system" have to put it into gold. Thats about it. Buying and holding land as an investment is still subject to the .gov taking it and taxing it until you lose it. Land can still be a good place to hold wealth if you can afford the taxes.

If you had a large stack of gold coins and the .gov took everything from everyone elses accounts and claimed their land, you would still have it but what then? Who would or could buy it and why? Thats a worst case and also unlikely to happen.

Gold does not pay dividends if you need money from your investments to live on, you have to sell if to buy food. If you have a large amount of cash just sitting around, converting a certain amount to gold and holding it can provide "Insurance" if the worst case hits but still allow you to have investments that can pay dividends.

Cash is very hard to get in any quantity. The banks are required to report over $10,000 cash transactions to the IRS. I heard that they lowered this amount but dont have confirmation. The bank is "Allowed" to do the cash transaction reports to the IRS for smaller amounts if they want to. I know of one bank that does it for over $3000, and that is for cash amounts coming into your account or going out.

People who say "I went to the bank and took out all of my money" dont have enough to worry about the .gov taking.

If you take out smaller amounts of cash to avoid the cash transaction reporting, it is a felony called "Structuring".

The only way I can give an opinion on this is "What would I do if it were me" with concerns about the banking system.

Pay off any and all debt. Never take on debt payments again.

Convert up to 1/3 into metals, 75% gold 25% silver.

Buy small single family rental homes. Everyone has to have a place to live. If the rental unit is paid for, you will not lose it for failure to make a payment on it when your tenants fail you. This provides income without having to sell the underlying investment.

If yo have to get rid of a few million, I would also include quality industrial/commercial rental properties. They dont require the maintenance that a home does if they sit empty during down periods in the economy.
 

wvstuck

Only worry about what you can control!
Any gold you purchase is now reported to the government as a purchase in your name for that amount. They will seize it when they want it. Remember the bible telling us that people would be throwing their gold and silver into the street. At some point it becomes useless.
 

Faroe

Un-spun

"Own Nothing And Be Happy": The Great Reset's Vision Of The Future
Profile picture for user Tyler Durden
by Tyler Durden
Fri, 11/13/2020 - 03:30
TwitterFacebookRedditEmailPrint

Authored by Colin Todhunter via Off-Guardian.org,
The World Economic Forum’s (WEF) annual meeting at the end of January in Davos, Switzerland, brings together international business and political leaders, economists and other high-profile individuals to discuss global issues.

Driven by the vision of its influential CEO Klaus Schwab, the WEF is the main driving force for the dystopian ‘great reset’, a tectonic shift that intends to change how we live, work and interact with each other.

The great reset entails a transformation of society resulting in permanent restrictions on fundamental liberties and mass surveillance as entire sectors are sacrificed to boost the monopoly and hegemony of pharmaceuticals corporations, high-tech/big data giants, Amazon, Google, major global chains, the digital payments sector, biotech concerns, etc.

Using COVID-19 lockdowns and restrictions to push through this transformation, the great reset is being rolled out under the guise of a ‘Fourth Industrial Revolution’ in which older enterprises are to be driven to bankruptcy or absorbed into monopolies, effectively shutting down huge sections of the pre-COVID economy. Economies are being ‘restructured’ and many jobs will be carried out by AI-driven machines.

In a short video showcased on social media, the WEF predicts that by 2030, “You’ll own nothing and you’ll be happy.”

A happy smiling face is depicted while a drone delivers a product to a household, no doubt ordered online and packaged by a robot in a giant Amazon warehouse: ‘no humans were involved in manufacturing, packaging or delivering this product’; rest assured, it is virus- and bacteria-free – because even in 2030, they will need to keep the fear narrative alive and well to maintain full-spectrum dominance over the population.

The jobless (and there will be many) could be placed on some kind of universal basic income and have their debts (indebtedness and bankruptcy on a massive scale is the deliberate result of lockdowns and restrictions) written off in return for handing their assets to the state or more precisely the financial institutions helping to drive this great reset.

The WEF says the public will ‘rent’ everything they require: stripping the right of ownership under the guise of ‘sustainable consumption’ and ‘saving the planet’. Of course, the tiny elite who rolled out this great reset will own everything.

Hundreds of millions around the world deemed ‘surplus to requirements’ are to be robbed (are currently being robbed) of their livelihoods. Our every movement and purchase are to be monitored and our main dealings will be online.

The plan for individual citizens could reflect the strategy to be applied to nation states. For instance, World Bank Group President David Malpass has stated that poorer countries will be ‘helped’ to get back on their feet after the various lockdowns that have been implemented. This ‘help’ will be on condition that neoliberal reforms and the undermining of public services are implemented and become further embedded.

On 20 April, the Wall Street Journal ran the headline ‘IMF, World Bank Face Deluge of Aid Requests From Developing World‘. Scores of countries are asking for bailouts and loans from financial institutions with $1.2 trillion to lend. An ideal recipe for fuelling dependency.
In return for debt relief or ‘support’, global conglomerates along with the likes of Bill Gates will be able to further dictate national policies and hollow out the remnants of nation state sovereignty.


IDENTITY AND MEANING
What will happen to our social and personal identity? Is that to be eradicated in the quest to commodify and standardise human behaviour and everything we do?

The billionaire class who are pushing this agenda think they can own nature and all humans and can control both, whether through geoengineering the atmosphere, for example, genetically modifying soil microbes or doing a better job than nature by producing bio-synthesised fake food in a lab.

They think they can bring history to a close and reinvent the wheel by reshaping what it means to be human. And they think they can achieve this by 2030. It is a cold dystopian vision that wants to eradicate thousands of years of culture, tradition and practices virtually overnight.

And many of those cultures, traditions and practices relate to food and how we produce it and our deep-rooted connections to nature. Consider that many of the ancient rituals and celebrations of our forebears were built around stories and myths that helped them come to terms with some of the most basic issues of existence, from death to rebirth and fertility. These culturally embedded beliefs and practices served to sanctify their practical relationship with nature and its role in sustaining human life.


As agriculture became key to human survival, the planting and harvesting of crops and other seasonal activities associated with food production were central to these customs. Freyfaxi marks the beginning of the harvest in Norse paganism, for example, while Lammas or Lughnasadh is the celebration of the first harvest/grain harvest in Paganism.

Humans celebrated nature and the life it gave birth to. Ancient beliefs and rituals were imbued with hope and renewal and people had a necessary and immediate relationship with the sun, seeds, animals, wind, fire, soil and rain and the changing seasons that nourished and brought life. Our cultural and social relationships with agrarian production and associated deities had a sound practical base.

Prof Robert W Nicholls explains that the cults of Woden and Thor were superimposed on far older and better-rooted beliefs related to the sun and the earth, the crops and the animals and the rotation of the seasons between the light and warmth of summer and the cold and dark of winter.

We need look no further than India to appreciate the important relationship between culture, agriculture and ecology, not least the vital importance of the monsoon and seasonal planting and harvesting. Rural-based beliefs and rituals steeped in nature persist, even among urban Indians. These are bound to traditional knowledge systems where livelihoods, the seasons, food, cooking, processing, seed exchange, healthcare and the passing on of knowledge are all inter-related and form the essence of cultural diversity within India itself.


Although the industrial age resulted in a diminution of the connection between food and the natural environment as people moved to cities, traditional ‘food cultures’ – the practices, attitudes and beliefs surrounding the production, distribution and consumption of food – still thrive and highlight our ongoing connection to agriculture and nature.

‘HAND OF GOD’ IMPERIALISM
If we go back to the 1950s, it is interesting to note Union Carbide’s corporate narrative based on a series of images that depicted the company as a ‘hand of god’ coming out of the sky to ‘solve’ some of the issues facing humanity. One of the most famous images is of the hand pouring the firm’s agrochemicals on Indian soils as if traditional farming practices were somehow ‘backward’.

Despite well-publicised claims to the contrary, this chemical-driven approach did not lead to higher food production according to the paper New Histories of the Green Revolution written by Prof Glenn Stone. However, it has had long-term devastating ecological, social and economic consequences (see Vandana Shiva’s book The Violence of the Green Revolution and Bhaskar Save’s now famous and highly insightful open letter to Indian officials).

In the book Food and Cultural Studies’ (Bob Ashley et al), we see how, some years ago, a Coca Cola TV ad campaign sold its product to an audience which associated modernity with a sugary drink and depicted ancient Aboriginal beliefs as harmful, ignorant and outdated. Coke and not rain became the giver of life to the parched. This type of ideology forms part of a wider strategy to discredit traditional cultures and portray them as being deficient and in need of assistance from ‘god-like’ corporations.

What we are seeing in 2020, is an acceleration of such processes. In terms of food and agriculture, traditional farming in places like India will be under increasing pressure from the big-tech giants and agribusiness to open up to lab-grown food, GMOs, genetically engineered soil microbes, data harvesting tools and drones and other ‘disruptive’ technologies.

The great reset includes farmerless farms being manned by driverless machines, monitored by drones and doused with chemicals to produce commodity crops from patented GM seeds for industrial ‘biomatter’ to be processed and constituted into something resembling food. What will happen to the farmers?

Post-COVID, the World Bank talks about helping countries get back on track in return for structural reforms. Are tens of millions of smallholder farmers to be enticed from their land in return for individual debt relief and universal basic income? The displacement of these farmers and the subsequent destruction of rural communities and their cultures was something the Gates Foundation once called for and cynically termed “land mobility”.

Cut through the euphemisms and it is clear that Bill Gates – and the other incredibly rich individuals behind the great reset – is an old-fashioned colonialist who supports the time-honoured dispossessive strategies of imperialism, whether this involves mining, appropriating and commodifying farmer knowledge, accelerating the transfer of research and seeds to corporations or facilitating intellectual property piracy and seed monopolies created through IP laws and seed regulations.

In places like India – still an agrarian-based society – will the land of these already (prior to COVID) heavily indebted farmers then be handed over to the tech giants, the financial institutions and global agribusiness to churn out their high-tech, data-driven GM industrial sludge? Is this part of the ‘own nothing, be happy’ bland brave new world being promoted by the WEF?

With the link completely severed between food production, nature and culturally embedded beliefs that give meaning and expression to life, we will be left with the individual human who exists on lab-based food, who is reliant on income from the state and who is stripped of satisfying productive endeavour and genuine self-fulfilment.

Technocratic meddling has already destroyed or undermined cultural diversity, meaningful social connections and agrarian ecosystems that draw on centuries of traditional knowledge and are increasingly recognised as valid approaches to secure food security (for example, see Food Security and Traditional Knowledge in India in the Journal of South Asian Studies).

The massive technocratic transformation currently envisaged regards humans as commodities to be controlled and monitored just like the lifeless technological drones and AI being promoted.

But do not worry – you will be property-less and happy in your open prison of mass unemployment, state dependency, track and chip health passports, cashlessness, mass vaccination and dehumanisation.
PC bullshit under sheep's clothing. If the author loves India so much, I suggest he move there. Didn't appreciate the gratituous slam on Norse heathenism...where did that even get dragged in from? Out of context.
 

NCGirl

Veteran Member
The few with money "Out of the banking system" have to put it into gold. Thats about it. Buying and holding land as an investment is still subject to the .gov taking it and taxing it until you lose it. Land can still be a good place to hold wealth if you can afford the taxes.

If you had a large stack of gold coins and the .gov took everything from everyone elses accounts and claimed their land, you would still have it but what then? Who would or could buy it and why? Thats a worst case and also unlikely to happen.

Gold does not pay dividends if you need money from your investments to live on, you have to sell if to buy food. If you have a large amount of cash just sitting around, converting a certain amount to gold and holding it can provide "Insurance" if the worst case hits but still allow you to have investments that can pay dividends.

Cash is very hard to get in any quantity. The banks are required to report over $10,000 cash transactions to the IRS. I heard that they lowered this amount but dont have confirmation. The bank is "Allowed" to do the cash transaction reports to the IRS for smaller amounts if they want to. I know of one bank that does it for over $3000, and that is for cash amounts coming into your account or going out.

People who say "I went to the bank and took out all of my money" dont have enough to worry about the .gov taking.

If you take out smaller amounts of cash to avoid the cash transaction reporting, it is a felony called "Structuring".

The only way I can give an opinion on this is "What would I do if it were me" with concerns about the banking system.

Pay off any and all debt. Never take on debt payments again.

Convert up to 1/3 into metals, 75% gold 25% silver.

Buy small single family rental homes. Everyone has to have a place to live. If the rental unit is paid for, you will not lose it for failure to make a payment on it when your tenants fail you. This provides income without having to sell the underlying investment.

If yo have to get rid of a few million, I would also include quality industrial/commercial rental properties. They dont require the maintenance that a home does if they sit empty during down periods in the economy.


Thank you for the well thought out and thorough post. We do have quite a bit of PM's already and I've had residential rentals for 20 years. I don't want more rentals, I hate being a landlord and If things get bad enough that cash isn't safe in banks then I believe your properties won't be safe either. We have REIT investments but are they safe? I just don't know what to do.
 

Faroe

Un-spun
Second passport, and a long term place to stay secured in another country. There is now no good place to escape to, but some areas are going to be less bad than others.

I am not currently at this point, but am looking at it. Like South Africa, and Rhodesia, the US may be too far gone to be worth saving. Sometimes, it is what it is.
 

Kathy in FL

Administrator
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If you have the majority of your cash in the bank and you've been paying attention for more than 2 weeks you probably deserve what you get.

Yeah, the problem is once you have money and you aren't a complete idiot it begins regenerating itself. So unless you are going to spend it all you are going to have an ever increasing issue of what to do with your liquidity, especially if you have invested so that once you are older and unable to work as much (note, we don't believe in retirement in our household) you still have significant liquidity to pull from.

Mason jars are not the answer for most people of any means. Putting it all in PMs is not the answer because there is that little problem of sellers reporting such purchases to the gov. Buying property out the ying yang is not the answer. If the government is out to put its hooks in you there is no escape. What you need to do is balance your risks and don't put all of your eggs in one basket so that you can minimize government interference in your life.

I could say something like if you haven't been paying attention since you became an adult and got into debt and bought a bunch of toys instead of saving and investing for a rainy day, if you think owning your own business is too much work and too risky, and that you sold your soul for all the bennies an employer paid you then "you get what you deserve."

The problem we are facing in this country is that the .gov - at the People's desire for protection and insurance and making things "fair" - have gotten their greedy little paws into everything. The trick isn't to figuring out how to survive a head on attack, it is how to keep .gov from creeping into everything when you aren't looking or thinking ahead.
 

Kathy in FL

Administrator
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Second passport, and a long term place to stay secured in another country. There is now no good place to escape to, but some areas are going to be less bad than others.

I am not currently at this point, but am looking at it. Like South Africa, and Rhodesia, the US may be too far gone to be worth saving. Sometimes, it is what it is.

That's assuming a US Passport will be allowed to travel. There are still lots of countries not accepting US passports for travel due to covid. Add to this it is a lot different to travel for business or pleasure than it is to try and get what amounts to a green card so that you can work to support yourself.

There is no "escape."
 

Kathy in FL

Administrator
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Under what law can the borrow from privately owned funds?

There are all sorts of loopholes in that contract you sign when you open an account. Bank, credit union, investment account ... none of it matters. How do you think the banks make money on your account? They loan it out and earn the spread between the interest rate charged and the interest rate earned. The .gov is just another borrower.
 

PghPanther

Has No Life - Lives on TB
When you really think about it.....the only thing of value if it it all goes to hell.......... is clean water, food, shelter (medicine in some cases) and your labor.

No barter of any kind other than what I just listed could be of value............if you're starving to death you can't eat gold.
 

Meemur

Voice on the Prairie / FJB!
Open to any feedback on this...............

You've been on the next long enough to know that 98% of the time, the internet "experts" are wrong about the economy.

If you feel that you need to make changes in how you are handling your finances, I strongly encourage you to seek out real world help and do your due diligence. And I'll stop it here. I'm only posting because I've seen people lose large amounts of money by panicking and pulling out their 401K or other savings when a rollover to a difference account or venue would've been a safer decision.

It's fun to think about "Mad Max" scenarios or compare the US to other third world toilets, but in the end, it's an apples to oranges comparison because of the size, diversity, and resources of the US.
 

colonel holman

Veteran Member
Unfortunately I think most are still in the denial stage. Even if Trump pulls this off, this isn’t going to end end well.

If DJT is crafty enough to actually pull it off for the win... the cities will burn hot, immediately, and bleed into the suburbs within a week. Even our respective small towns will burn once the so-called antifa white kids disperse to bring revolution to smalltown USA, within a few weeks. It will not be a gradual deterioration, not at all. But leads to an efficient resolution period.
 

colonel holman

Veteran Member
You've been on the next long enough to know that 98% of the time, the internet "experts" are wrong about the economy.

If you feel that you need to make changes in how you are handling your finances, I strongly encourage you to seek out real world help and do your due diligence. And I'll stop it here. I'm only posting because I've seen people lose large amounts of money by panicking and pulling out their 401K or other savings when a rollover to a difference account or venue would've been a safer decision.

It's fun to think about "Mad Max" scenarios or compare the US to other third world toilets, but in the end, it's an apples to oranges comparison because of the size, diversity, and resources of the US.

Very sage advice. If society collapses to the point of loss of retirement accounts, your $$ assets will mean little anyway. I have seen many lose large portions of their retirement accts by panic actions. And maybe that is what the klingons on the left want anyway, to force .gov dependence
 

wvstuck

Only worry about what you can control!
When you really think about it.....the only thing of value if it it all goes to hell.......... is clean water, food, shelter (medicine in some cases) and your labor.

No barter of any kind other than what I just listed could be of value............if you're starving to death you can't eat gold.
Guns and Ammo, you can keep both until you never need them again. Together they help you obtain, food, water and shelter, and to maintain control over your food, water and shelter until you no longer need them.
 

raven

TB Fanatic
At this moment, I am thinking . . . Damn, I am really glad I stopped working 8 years ago,
I would have lost a butt load of money

Now, the question is . . . If Biden is elected, why wouldn't you quit you job the next day?
Because you are never going to be able to own anything ever again.
 

The Mountain

Here since the beginning
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I'm curious..........say I would have 250K in my checking account at a big bank...........so I withdraw all of it and leave maybe 5k in the bank for monthly bills and only keep that balance moving forward.

What do I do with the rest of the 245K in cash?...............if I keep it in federal reserved notes stashed somewhere if there is a big reset the I would lose the value of that the same as if it is in a bank.

Do I risk the idea of putting it in hard metals?.......real estate?.............what would hold value if there is a reset that could cause a economic collapse or even social breakdown?

The most important commodities in the world are first ........clean water to drink............and second food to sustain life.........after that nothing has no value in barter if you can't drink or eat it to survive..........

Granted if the reset only destroys fiat money (aka dollars) then would in fact metals, real estate or other items like that hold their value?

Then after the reset whatever becomes the new standard for a monetary barter (aka a new dollar type note) do you convert your assets back into that?

I mean if I take that money and buy gold................I can't go to a car dealer and plop down say 30K in gold as payment in full for a new vehicle.................so what is the point of holding value if you can't barter it for a commodity that is accepted for all public and private debts?

Open to any feedback on this...............

Use that money to upgrade your property, buy whatever you need to ensure that you can fully provide for yourself. Set some aside in assets that don't require a banking system i.e. metals and other barter items. Use some of the money to obtain useful skills such as welding certification, plumbing, carpentry, electrical repair and so on.

In general, convert the cash into things you can use one way or another.
 

raven

TB Fanatic
Use that money to upgrade your property, buy whatever you need to ensure that you can fully provide for yourself. Set some aside in assets that don't require a banking system i.e. metals and other barter items. Use some of the money to obtain useful skills such as welding certification, plumbing, carpentry, electrical repair and so on.

In general, convert the cash into things you can use one way or another.
hahahahaha . . . OMG that is too funny

YOU are not going to be allowed to OWN property
Why would you upgrade property and make it more valuable for your new master.

Shit, if you can own property, forget about upgrading the property, buy a second or third property.

In this Great Reset, you are going to lose your money and your property.
If you own a home outright, you will now pay the government rent on that home.
everyone pays rent. and if you don't, you get evicted and moved somewhere that you can afford
and a nice Black family gets your house - reparations
 
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