BRKG Massive Explosion in Beirut

Melodi

Disaster Cat
From Twitter (End Game WWIII)
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AlfaMan

Has No Life - Lives on TB
you know, I kinda take the day off and go a little gray, play in the garage. put my 2003 Nissan Maxima 3.5 SE 6 speed manual for sale. Answer a bunch of nit with questions like "will you take 2000 cash" to which I answer "the price IS cash". a nice polite lady asks for a pic of the interior. I roll my eyes and take a pic and the dang thing won't transfer to my computer. So I have to reinvent computer networking. And then her husband asks if it has AC. And I say "the car is in Texas, so yes, it has AC".
We reach a deal, I fill up the car, check the pressure in the tires. Get out the title. Sit down at my computer and . . .
mother****ers blow up Beirut again!!!
when are the terrorist gonna take a ****ing day off.

2 grand cash ain't a bad price. Glad you sold it at that price.
 

Housecarl

On TB every waking moment
I think Hezbollah just lost most, if not all of their rocket arsenal. And killed many of their own citizens in the process.

Considering how much stuff they've reportedly been squirreling away, that would have represented only a fraction of their stock.

I wonder how old the stuff was, sitting in likely a non eviromentally controlled storage space. It is summer in the Middle East after all. That of course assumes it wasn't "helped along"....
 

packyderms_wife

Neither here nor there.

At least 63 people dead and more than 3,000 injured as a huge explosions rocks Beirut, health ministry says





Dramatic video out of Beirut on Aug. 4 showed an initial blast, followed by a larger one that sent flames into the air and a mushroom cloud of red smoke. (The Washington Post)
By
Liz Sly,
Sarah Dadouch and
Louisa Loveluck
August 4, 2020 at 4:11 p.m. CDT
BEIRUT — At least two massive explosions shook Beirut on Tuesday, injuring and killing hundreds of people, strewing devastation across multiple neighborhoods and shattering windows for miles around.

The cause of the late afternoon blast was not immediately clear, but senior officials said it appeared that flammable materials stored in a warehouse had caught fire. An earlier, smaller explosion had apparently ignited a fire, then came two secondary blasts, propelling a vast mushroom cloud of pink and yellow smoke over the city.

The casualty toll rose through the evening. The health ministry put the latest toll at 63 dead and over 3000 injured.

People gather by damaged buildings after a pair of explosions in Beirut on Aug. 4, 2020. (Hasan Shaaban/Bloomberg News)
Hospitals were overwhelmed by the number of injuries. One, the Hotel Dieu, said it had received over 500 injured people in the first hours after the blast. For more than an hour after the explosion, people with blood streaming down their faces or limbs wandered the streets trying to find a way of reaching hospitals on roads too clogged with traffic and debris for ambulances and taxis to move.

The explosion coincides with mounting tensions between Israel and the Lebanese Shiite militia Hezbollah, which maintains a facility at the port and has long been accused by U.S. officials of using it to smuggle weapons into the country. The explosion follows a series of mysterious blasts at Shiite militia storage sites in Iraq last year that Iraqi and Israeli officials have said Israel was responsible for, and more recently a string of similarly unexplained explosions at military sites and power stations in Iran.

An Israeli official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to speak to reporters, denied that Israel had any role. Israeli Defense Minister Benny Gantz and Foreign Minister Gabi Ashkenazi offered the Lebanese government medical and humanitarian aid, as well as immediate emergency assistance, via international intermediaries because Israel and Lebanon are in a state of war and have no contact.

In a statement offering condolences to families of the dead and injured, Hezbollah did not apportion blame. It called the incident a “huge national tragedy” and urged Lebanese to unite to overcome the ordeal.

There were many indications the blast may have been a tragic accident. Lebanese Interior Minister Mohammed Fahmi said it appeared stocks of ammonium nitrate, a fertilizer that can be used in bombmaking, had ignited.

Lebanon’s Prime Minister Hassan Diab linked the explosions to dangerous stocks of chemicals that had been stored at the port since 2014, despite warnings from port officials that the material was not safe.

“I promise you that this catastrophe will not pass without accountability. ... Those responsible will pay the price,” he said in a televised speech. “Facts about this dangerous warehouse that has been there since 2014 will be announced and I will not preempt the investigations.”

But suspicions lingered that Israel may have been involved, said a senior Lebanese army officer who spoke on the condition of anonymity because the issue is sensitive. Numerous witnesses reported hearing warplanes overhead at the time, he noted.

“There are suspicions,” the official said. “There will be no conclusion until there has been a full investigation.
Israeli planes and drones have been spotted flying with increasing regularity over the city in recent weeks as the tensions have risen.

One thing that was clear is that crisis-stricken Lebanon, in the throes of a major financial and economic collapse and battling rising numbers of coronavirus infections, is in no position to cope with another disaster, especially on this scale. At least two hospitals were badly damaged in the explosions, and TV footage showed staff evacuating patients to alternative hospitals that were themselves swamped — in the dark, because the city had no electricity.

Among the dead was Nizar Najarian, a senior official with the Kataeb political party. The injured included Kamal Hayek, the chairman of the state-owned electricity company, according to the state-run National News Agency.

Germany’s foreign ministry tweeted that German embassy employees were among those injured. Phone lines went down, and the internet faltered as friends and relatives took to the telephone to check on loved ones.

Many residents lost their homes, especially in the majority Christian eastern part of the city closest to the blast. In the neighborhood of Gemmayze, once a vibrant nightlife district, buildings collapsed, cars were overturned and the streets were blocked by piles of masonry and twisted metal.

Hospitals were swamped with injuries. One, the Hotel Dieu, said it had received over 500 injured people in the first hour. For well over an hour after the explosion, people with blood streaming down their faces or limbs wandered the streets trying to find a way of reaching hospitals on roads too clogged with traffic and debris for ambulances or taxis to move.

The Red Cross told all ambulances across the country to head to Beirut to report for duty.

Health authorities also warned that the explosion had left a toxic cloud of nitrous oxide hanging over the city, and told residents to wear masks and stay indoors.

The damage was spread across a wide arc. Windows were blown out and check-in counters were damaged at Beirut’s airport, several miles from the explosion. Doors were blown open and windows rattled at the U.S. Embassy, more than 6 miles away.

Buildings collapsed and cars were overturned in the neighborhood of Gemmayze, a popular nightlife area and one of the worst hit neighborhoods.

Debris is scattered across a street in the wake of blasts in Beirut on Aug. 4, 2020. (Hasan Shaaban/Bloomberg News)

Loveluck reported from Baghdad. Suzan Haidamous, Siobhán O’Grady and Miriam Berger in Washington and Ruth Eglash in Jerusalem contributed to this report.
 

packyderms_wife

Neither here nor there.
Well with everyone having cell phones with cameras these days there's at least thirty different views of the explosion(s) and that doesn't include satellite footage.
 
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Ping Jockey

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I'd guess Ammonium Nitrate.

See post #225.

Would ammonium nitrate (aka fertilizer) have to have some accelerant added such as diesel, fuel oil, gasoline, etc. to be used as an explosive; i.e. ANFO = ammonium nitrate/fuel oil? At least that’s what I recall from previous lifetimes. Too, given that the fertilizer must be completely dry for it to be used in such a manner you can tell the air is filled with humidity when the secondary explosion blast wave wrings the moisture out of the air before exposing the actual debris cloud.

Only curious...
 

Pinecone

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Does anyone have an idea of how long it took from the first fire/explosion to occur to the second major boom? Would that have any clues as to the cause of the explosion?
 

Melodi

Disaster Cat
I suspect the death toll will be in the thousands. Now you know what a small nuke looks like without the nuke this time.
You beat me to it, I was about to say the same thing about a potential death toll; I think it will be at least 1,000 but wouldn't surprise me if it was 10,000 or higher. It just depends on how many people were in apartments, shops, or on the streets near enough to be hit by falling debris or shattered glass.
 

Countrymouse

Country exile in the city
At least it was not nuclear. If it had been nuclear you would have seen an intense blinding ultraviolet light, a bluish white flash that survivors of Hiroshima called the pika.

But it IS interesting the timing--

this happened close to THE WEEK OF THE HIROSHIMA and NAGASAKI bombings---

75 years ago:

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Aug 6, 1945 – Aug 9, 1945
 

bw

Fringe Ranger
Does anyone have an idea of how long it took from the first fire/explosion to occur to the second major boom? Would that have any clues as to the cause of the explosion?

The smoke cloud was well-defined, and there was no trailing dissipating traces that I could see. So the initial fire can't have been much over 30 seconds, at a wild guess. When I eyeball the upward movement of the first cloud and count backward, it looks like no more than 20 seconds. Soon as that became obvious, people started filming.
 

packyderms_wife

Neither here nor there.
You beat me to it, I was about to say the same thing about a potential death toll; I think it will be at least 1,000 but wouldn't surprise me if it was 10,000 or higher. It just depends on how many people were in apartments, shops, or on the streets near enough to be hit by falling debris or shattered glass.

This is what I was wondering, lots of tall apartment complexes not far from the port, many of which looked like they were sheared off by the blast wave, yikes I cannot even imagine how many mothers and children were in those apartments.
 

dlee

Contributing Member
You beat me to it, I was about to say the same thing about a potential death toll; I think it will be at least 1,000 but wouldn't surprise me if it was 10,000 or higher. It just depends on how many people were in apartments, shops, or on the streets near enough to be hit by falling debris or shattered glass.
Someone said 1 percent of beruits population hurt.
 

hiwall

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Would ammonium nitrate (aka fertilizer) have to have some accelerant added such as diesel, fuel oil, gasoline, etc. to be used as an explosive; i.e. ANFO = ammonium nitrate/fuel oil? At least that’s what I recall from previous lifetimes. Too, given that the fertilizer must be completely dry for it to be used in such a manner you can tell the air is filled with humidity when the secondary explosion blast wave wrings the moisture out of the air before exposing the actual debris cloud.

Only curious...
I think the fuel oil or many other substances added are the fuel and the Ammonium Nitrate is the oxygenator. But I don't know that.
 

Ping Jockey

Inactive
Ammonium nitrate is not really that brisant, it’s a relative slow acting explosive. In other words it does not create or develop a high velocity shattering force such as RDX or C-4 would. Much like comparing a black powder muzzle-loader to a modern day rifle with the higher pressure smokeless powders.

For there to be building damage miles away it would have to be something a bit more brisant than plain ol ANitrate.
 

Housecarl

On TB every waking moment
I suspect the death toll will be in the thousands. Now you know what a small nuke looks like without the nuke this time.

Yes. Goes to my assertion that with todays guidance systems, if your targeting Intel is good, you have a difficult argument to make for using anything over 1kt.
 

TheSearcher

Are you sure about that?
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