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packyderms_wife

Neither here nor there.
If you already have a canner then I'd go for the generator.. If the electric goes out you can still can with what you have, but not be able to power your machine.

Here is one that I suggested my dear brother look at.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBldMVqDr0s&feature=youtu.be


God is good all the time.

Judy

Thank you for the link, I'm probably going to buy the Jackery.
 

packyderms_wife

Neither here nor there.
Truthfully, I don't understand the need for a "solar" generator. Buy a standard 1k generator and 10 gallons of gas and that will last a long time if only used for a cpap.

Unless they need a lot more power than I understand.

In fact 90% of us can get away with a simple 3500 inverter generator (inverter to allow for sensitive electronics) and 20 gallons of gas and still power most everything in the house. You will need to monitor it, but it will work.

1. Because I want to use it in the house. 2. I live in town, outdoor genies disappear and quick like during a crisis. 3. I don't want to have to run 100 yards of extension cord to power my cpap machine... some of us live in two-story houses. 4. Because I can!
 

packyderms_wife

Neither here nor there.
I agree with the advice above. If we were in Arizona, there might be some validity to getting a solar generator, but in Iowa, the best "alternative" power is wind. There are small wind turbines that can be used in a backyard, but there are zoning problems with them in many neighborhoods.


I have a large battery because my main need is to power the computer long enough to send emergency emails or power my ham radio in the field. I had a generator and ran it under load every month. It was a pita to maintain. Now, I just have the big battery, and it's fine for now.

Similar to mine (mine is no longer made)


Can't have a windmill in my part of town, already looked into it, is that portable power station the one you have?
 

cyberiot

Rimtas žmogus
Back when mayo still came in glass jars, I saved them for canning. They still are working for me after using them all these years. The regular mouth sealing lids and rings work perfectly on them. Now, all I can find is mayo is plastic jars, at least the brand I use.

Try Trader Joe's mayo--it's still in glass, and the regular lids fit. The mayo is good, too--no Frankenstuff.
 

packyderms_wife

Neither here nor there.
I've heard good things about the Jackery, this one was just a place to look at some.

God is good, all the time,

Judy

Same here, I've seen quite a few YT videos of people using it off-grid, or boondocking (camping out in the boonies with no electric, etc.,) and they all seem to be quite happy with the Jackery.
 

cyberiot

Rimtas žmogus
Went to Kroger last night and it's not as bare as Walmart, but there are lots of empty areas.

Our Fry's (Kroger) "superstores"--the ones that are trying to be mini-Targets--have placed a lot of their clothing and shoes on clearance. Visited the one in Chandler, AZ yesterday, and they were doing a lot of rearranging. My guess is that most of their clothing comes out of China.
 

Meemur

Voice on the Prairie / FJB!
Our Fry's (Kroger) "superstores"--the ones that are trying to be mini-Targets--have placed a lot of their clothing and shoes on clearance. Visited the one in Chandler, AZ yesterday, and they were doing a lot of rearranging. My guess is that most of their clothing comes out of China.

Several of our HyVee grocery stores are doing that. The clothing and shoes are over-priced crap. I shop at a store called Fareway, which focuses on groceries. Prices are better, too.
 

SouthernBreeze

Has No Life - Lives on TB
We have one in West Des Moines. Maybe it's just that store, but I'm not impressed. They are even more expensive than Whole Foods, at least in my area.

I've heard a lot of good things about Trader Joe's. I'd really like to give them a shot if we ever get one here. We don't have Whole Foods, either.
 

amazon

Veteran Member
Dh wanted to go to Sams Club (Rock Hill SC) today for a couple things and I went with him. I have NEVER seen that store so empty. They've completely re-arranged to make it look fuller but the tops of the shelves are empty. Only a few packs of Charmin tp, no paper towels, plenty of napkins. They did have two types of 25lb bags of rice.
I want to Sam's today for the first time in weeks. They have a security guard to make sure everyone has a mask on!!! It is surreal how no one minds the "mask police".
Anyway, everything moved around, way less food. They did have plenty of flour, rice, dried beans, tp, Scott towels. Fresh produce was pitiful.
Shopping now just makes me sad. Most people just seem oblivious. I don't get it.....
 

packyderms_wife

Neither here nor there.
Bear in mind that NO ONE can run 100 yards of extension cord from a genset to their devices. There'd be no power at the end of the cord. It would all be lost due to resistance. You don't want more than 50' TOPS, and that's with 8 gauge cord.

I knew that, my point being is where the genset would have to be outside and the distance to our bedroom would require that much extension cord! If I buy a Jackery, or that other unit Judy posted the link to I can charge that sucker up in our bedroom by simply putting the solar panels in the west-facing windows.
 

SouthernBreeze

Has No Life - Lives on TB
The only think I've bought from there that I really thought was worth the $ was their peanut butter, I'm an Aldi girl through and through.

We do have an Aldi's here, but it is always so trashed by the GTR crowd I refuse to shop there. One would think out of a city of a population of 44,000 we would have more choices for groceries. Aldi's, Kroger, and Walmart are our main choices. There are other privately owned grocery stores, but GTR makes them filthy to shop at. I have found only one of those in my area that I trust to buy food from. It's in a smaller town. Nice folks, and very clean.
 

20Gauge

TB Fanatic
1. Because I want to use it in the house. 2. I live in town, outdoor genies disappear and quick like during a crisis. 3. I don't want to have to run 100 yards of extension cord to power my cpap machine... some of us live in two-story houses. 4. Because I can!
Makes sense then. I do forget that I am rural at times.
 

TxGal

Day by day
View: https://twitter.com/IceAgeFarmer/status/1287436235481296897



There's a video I can't bring over; please go to the link to watch it.

Up to 700 more workers losing jobs at Alcoa aluminum plant in Ferndale


Author: Kaila Lafferty (KING5)
Published: 5:52 PM PDT July 21, 2020
Updated: 9:21 PM PDT July 21, 2020

FERNDALE, Wash. — Alcoa Intalco Works, an aluminum smelter plant in Whatcom County, is doing its final round of layoffs this week.

Up to 700 employees are losing their jobs. The plant has been one of the main industries in Ferndale for over 50 years.
“We produce all the primary aluminum needed for wheels and stuff like that,” said Jason Swendt, an employee.

He is one of the lucky few who has kept his job at the plant through the rounds of layoffs.
But he knows that won’t last.

“I know that day is coming. So, I’m just trying to do the best I can for my family right now for when that time does come,” he said.

In April, Alcoa announced a curtailment, meaning the plant will be shut down only leaving the bare minimum number of employees to keep the plant in operating shape in hopes that another company purchases it.

RELATED: Looming closure of Alcoa aluminum plant in Ferndale threatens to leave hundreds jobless

Most of the aluminum industry has moved out of the United States and into China due to government subsidies and little environmental regulations.

Intalco Works is the last aluminum smelting plant west of the Mississippi.

“We’re a huge tax base for the city of Ferndale, so I’m not sure where they’re going to find that revenue when they lose it,” said Swendt.”

Mayor Greg Hanson called the curtailment disastrous for the city of Ferndale but said their concentration is on how to help the families of the 700 laid-off employees.

“We’ve kind of struggled to figure out what the impacts will be and really we’ve been focused mostly on how do we make sure to wrap our arms around those families that are losing their jobs and trying to transition into something new. That’s been our primary focus,” Hansen said.

The layoffs coupled with the fact that not many jobs are not hiring due to the pandemic has Hansen worried.

“These are individuals with industrial skills and very specific knowledge in a normal economy there would be lots of opportunity, but right now, when businesses are kind of putting a halt on all hiring and all growths because there’s just so much uncertainly in the economy, I think it really makes it difficult for them,” Hansen said.

He adds he’s confident Ferndale will continue to be an industrial force even if the plant shuts down.

“We make things in Ferndale, we’re an industrial town and we will continue to be. And we just want to look for the ways that those employees are going to be able to transition into whatever the next big thing is in Ferndale and Whatcom County.”

Swendt said employees, along with the International Association of Machinists and Aerospace Workers (IAMAW union), have been writing letters to Senators, Representatives, President Donald Trump as well as Alcoa CEO Roy Harvey trying to save their jobs.

But he admits he’s not confident it will work.

“We may not be able to save this smelter, but we might be able to save other smelters in the U.S,” he said. "It is my goal to keep primary aluminum in the United States.”

Alcoa said in the second-quarter report that the company spent $27 million on the curtailment process, part of that being severance packages for laid-off employees.

RELATED: Ferndale smelter closing, hundreds face layoffs
 

Cyclonemom

Veteran Member
At the risk of thread drift.... does anyone here use "media crema"? (shelf stable table cream)

AND is it still available these days?

I just watched a YouTube about food storage, and this product was mentioned.
I am intrigued.
 

packyderms_wife

Neither here nor there.
At the risk of thread drift.... does anyone here use "media crema"? (shelf stable table cream)

AND is it still available these days?

I just watched a YouTube about food storage, and this product was mentioned.
I am intrigued.

Never heard of it, will have to google it now.
 

TxGal

Day by day
At the risk of thread drift.... does anyone here use "media crema"? (shelf stable table cream)

AND is it still available these days?

I just watched a YouTube about food storage, and this product was mentioned.
I am intrigued.
I'd never heard of it, but apparently Walmart carries it:


Good article on it at the link below, but it must be refrigerated once opened:

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SmithJ

Veteran Member
I knew that, my point being is where the genset would have to be outside and the distance to our bedroom would require that much extension cord! If I buy a Jackery, or that other unit Judy posted the link to I can charge that sucker up in our bedroom by simply putting the solar panels in the west-facing windows.

You need to research that. You’re gonna need a LOT of solar panels to recharge that thing like that quicker than you deplete it.
 

Grounded Idealist

Hope Always
Our Fry's (Kroger) "superstores"--the ones that are trying to be mini-Targets--have placed a lot of their clothing and shoes on clearance. Visited the one in Chandler, AZ yesterday, and they were doing a lot of rearranging. My guess is that most of their clothing comes out of China.
The one on Ray & Rural??
 

Grounded Idealist

Hope Always
I'd never heard of it, but apparently Walmart carries it:


Good article on it at the link below, but it must be refrigerated once opened:

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Isn’t this just evaporated milk?? It’s got the Hispanic name, otherwise the same stuff, yes?
 

Coco82919

Veteran Member
Ooh! You read my mind! I realized I can’t stock enough chocolate so I came up with a recipe for a chocolate mug cake. It uses only pantry items. I’m going to make up a dry mix so all I have to do is measure some out and add oil and water, zap in microwave for 70 seconds and it’s ready. I’m thinking about stocking some chocolate syrup to put on top.

Coco powder lasts a long time. Just keep is dry and tightly sealed. I bought a couple large containers several years ago and have not opened any of it up yet. I still have some coco powder in my spice cabinet that is at least 10 or 20 years old and as good as new.
 
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