LEGAL Obama, Clinton 9th Circuit Judges Suspend Bill of Rights Until Coronavirus is Cured

Cardinal

Chickministrator
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They said it. I didn't.
The 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals on Friday ruled that Democratic California Gavin Newsom's ban on in-person church services during the coronavirus pandemic can stand.
The lawsuit, filed by South Bay United Pentecostal Church in San Diego, prevents that church from reopening, according to the Los Angeles Times
The "constitutional standards that would normally govern our review of a Free Exercise claim should not be applied," wrote the two judges in the majority opinion.
"We're dealing here with a highly contagious and often fatal disease for which there presently is no known cure. In the words of Justice Robert Jackson, if a '(c)ourt does not temper its doctrinaire logic with a little practical wisdom, it will convert the constitutional Bill of Rights into a suicide pact,'" according to the opinion.
The ruling came from Judges Jacqueline Nguyen and Barry Silverman, Nguyen is an Obama appointee and Silverman, a Clinton appointee. The 9th Circuit has a longstanding terrible reputation, but this is a new low.
About the only thing Nguyen and Silverman didn't do is reference crying fire in a theater.
Perhaps these two lefty scholars can point us to where the First Amendment states, "except in an emergency".
Are they proposing the suspension of the Bill of Rights until there's a cure. Which may never happen.

Bizarrely, the Democrat judges are quoting a minority dissent arguing that speech could be censored if it was inflammatory. Jackson was arguing that the authorities should have the right to stop Nazi supporters from saying racist things in public because it would lead to disorder and then America would go the way of Nazi Germany. Jackson was a great man, but wrong in this case. That he's being quoted by the majority in this ruling is troubling at best considering the original implications.
The Democrat judges did not address the fact that Newsom is discriminating against religious observance. Trump's appointee did
Collins noted that the orders allow many workplaces to open, but ban religious gatherings even when they could meet the social distancing standards imposed on other activities that are now permitted.
“By explicitly and categorically assigning all in-person ‘religious services’ to a future Phase 3 — without any express regard to the number of attendees, the size of the space, or the safety protocols followed in such services — the State’s Reopening Plan undeniably ‘discriminate on its face’ against ‘religious conduct,’” the judge said.

But only until all diseases are cured.
 

Publius

TB Fanatic
Most don't there are rules these judges must follow and no emergency can over ride or suspend the constitution this and no one citing these rules to them in court they can get away with this.
 

Dennis Olson

Chief Curmudgeon
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Sooooo...where...is...our Attorney General...again?
I see you're proving that you have absolutely no patience, and require instant gratification. (Yes, it can be a symptom of Asperger's.)

You expect that Court A makes a ruling and Court B implements a stay 15 minutes later, without a petition or documentation?

WTF man?
 

Blacknarwhal

Let's Go Brandon!
I see you're proving that you have absolutely no patience, and require instant gratification. (Yes, it can be a symptom of Asperger's.)

You expect that Court A makes a ruling and Court B implements a stay 15 minutes later, without a petition or documentation?

WTF man?

...are you seriously back on the attempts to diagnose me remotely? Has this not blown up in your face often enough yet?

Could have released a statement, maybe? Oh, and that also can be interpreted as a generalized suggestion in the face of everything else that's been going on.

But you are right in that I've never had a lot of patience. I've always seen life as too short to twiddle your thumbs.
 

night driver

ESFP adrift in INTJ sea
What's yer hurry? Pentecost isn't 'til Sunday, and we RCC's still have that weekend to get our Easter duty in.

Though the more aware Dioceses have granted Dispensations for this liturgical cycle.
 

FREEBIRD

Has No Life - Lives on TB
What's yer hurry? Pentecost isn't 'til Sunday, and we RCC's still have that weekend to get our Easter duty in.

Though the more aware Dioceses have granted Dispensations for this liturgical cycle.
This may be helpful to you and other Catholics.
 

Silverfox

TWTFS
...are you seriously back on the attempts to diagnose me remotely? Has this not blown up in your face often enough yet?

Could have released a statement, maybe? Oh, and that also can be interpreted as a generalized suggestion in the face of everything else that's been going on.

But you are right in that I've never had a lot of patience. I've always seen life as too short to twiddle your thumbs.
What's assburgers?
 

night driver

ESFP adrift in INTJ sea
This may be helpful to you and other Catholics.

I'm a Baltimore Catechism Cradle Catholic, went to the local Basketball powerhouse in Central New York (errrrr, Best Dang Catholic HS in CNY) and have been a semi-lapsed Catholic who now fellowships with a Vineyard (with the Pastor that John Wimber tasked with the little errand of shutting down the Toronto Airport Rd Apostasy. Gave them a choice, take the sign down or return to our teachings. They took the sign down. See Hank Hennegraph "Counterfeit Revival" for the dirty details))

Yes I STILL remember the rules. Observe? Not so much.



OBTW, Notre Dame in Utica had the (distinction???) of being the first HS rated Nationally #1 in the first National Rating. Yeah da Jugglers ROCKED in 67-68.



And now the Human Thread Drift will go find another thread to drift...
 

Blacknarwhal

Let's Go Brandon!
What's assburgers?

No Cartman, it's Asperger's. :D

It's a disorder on the autism spectrum. Dennis has had this bizarre compunction to diagnose me with it for at least the last couple months now. Either it or full-blown autism; he's gone back and forth.
 

Grouchy Granny

Deceased
No Cartman, it's Asperger's. :D

It's a disorder on the autism spectrum. Dennis has had this bizarre compunction to diagnose me with it for at least the last couple months now. Either it or full-blown autism; he's gone back and forth.

Have a GK with it. Smart as a whip, social skills of a radish, but we love him anyway. Social skills are much better the older he gets and he is going to college this fall.

So, which spectrum do you fall into? Can say for certain not full blown autism or you wouldn't be communicating the way you do.

We love you no matter which it is - how's that?
 

Blacknarwhal

Let's Go Brandon!
Have a GK with it. Smart as a whip, social skills of a radish, but we love him anyway. Social skills are much better the older he gets and he is going to college this fall.

So, which spectrum do you fall into? Can say for certain not full blown autism or you wouldn't be communicating the way you do.

We love you no matter which it is - how's that?

Fine by me! I'm not quite convinced I have anything like that. Certainly haven't been tested.
 

Ragnarok

On and On, South of Heaven
I see you're proving that you have absolutely no patience, and require instant gratification. (Yes, it can be a symptom of Asperger's.)

You expect that Court A makes a ruling and Court B implements a stay 15 minutes later, without a petition or documentation?

WTF man?

...are you seriously back on the attempts to diagnose me remotely? Has this not blown up in your face often enough yet?

Could have released a statement, maybe? Oh, and that also can be interpreted as a generalized suggestion in the face of everything else that's been going on.

But you are right in that I've never had a lot of patience. I've always seen life as too short to twiddle your thumbs.

No Cartman, it's Asperger's. :D

It's a disorder on the autism spectrum. Dennis has had this bizarre compunction to diagnose me with it for at least the last couple months now. Either it or full-blown autism; he's gone back and forth.

YES!!!

CAT FIGHT!!!

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night driver

ESFP adrift in INTJ sea
Now that you mention it, I DO see the species-family resemblance to the Georgia, fashion-runway model Almost-a-Governor Narwahl.
 

Silverfox

TWTFS
No Cartman, it's Asperger's. :D

It's a disorder on the autism spectrum. Dennis has had this bizarre compunction to diagnose me with it for at least the last couple months now. Either it or full-blown autism; he's gone back and forth.
You actually had to tell me that? Yes, there is something wrong with you.

Alright, I suppose I should study your case also- Just so there's a second opinion, should a controversy arise. Okay, first I'll study your Avatar, for insight into your psyche.
I'm a Baltimore Catechism Cradle Catholic,

Yes I STILL remember the rules. Observe? Not so much.
And now the Human Thread Drift will go find another thread to drift...

.That's okay, it's a lot like the new Judaism. Stated for informational porpoises only.
 

Housecarl

On TB every waking moment
Well, considering this virus is confounding the researchers, I'm guessing we're firmly in WROL territory per these "judges"......
 

Doomer Doug

TB Fanatic
Trump has put a lot, or at least Mitch the Bitch has put a lot, of new judges on the 9th circuit. They have 29 total. Any Clinton judges are getting a bit long in the tooth. It might be reversed on a three judge panel with some of Trump's newbies on the panel. What really happened here, Dennis is it is right after a long holiday, the Marxist judges stacked the panel, issued the ruling and then all of Trump"s judges came back from Memorial Day PATRIOTIC FESTIVITIES , found out while the cat is away the DEMONRATS will play. Oregon 's Supreme Court gave the Baker county judge till Thursday to explain himself, so that gives Brown a free hand. Still, the 9th clowns might be reversed now that the adults are back from the hot dog roast.:D
 

Silverfox

TWTFS
Everyone here know this court is communist, unconstitutional, and anti Christ, so no surprise.
Actually, I had a case in the 9th circuit. I concur. That is where I learned: There is no distinction between politics and religion. Politics is the outward manifestation of an inward philosophical belief system. My biggest sin before the panel: Part of my arguments were supported by homosexual law. I had a hoot of a time preparing the legal arguments. Sometimes, like here, laughing my assburgers off. Hey Black&Wall. I find your name offensive.

I mean, it's almost like some sort of legalistic system of "Law" from ancient times. to the line.. load prog c:=g800;sys;boot
 

night driver

ESFP adrift in INTJ sea
And BN, ya KNOW I couldn't say something like that if I thought you would take it seriously.

SOME days we just get to BBRU and things go South by North East.


BBRU-=-Ball Busters R Us.
 
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