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CRISIS Meat Processing Plants Suspend Operations After Workers Fall Ill
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hunybee
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people are out shopping for food. if you are talking about clothes and teapots and what not, then that is more believeable. but there are still some very empty shelves in lots of places for food and some personal care items. how can people still be having shortages, but have the warehouses be full and stopping production if that is the case. there is SOMETHING that is not right there. i believe that there are some things that people are not buying right now, and if those are the things your friend is shipping, then i believe that. but if it is food, then something is wrong because a lot of people are frustrated that they cannot get certain things and have not been able to easily do so.
But, But, But! If the Economy Crashed or TSHF I will just go Fishing or Hunting. That is what I hear from so many people. I tell them, the Wildlife wouldn't last very long if everyone started Fishing and Hunting
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naturallysweet
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how long can it last once frozen?
If an infected employee coughed on your bacon before it as frozen, then you handled it. You could probably get e coli and corona.
Only if I eat it raw.
I love bacon, but prefer it crispy.
Walrus Whisperer
Hope in chains...
I'm going into Tractor Supply today to get about 2 months more feed for my chickens, planned that out last night....
20Gauge
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Yeah that would work if we lost about 98% of the population right off the bat. If it takes some time, then you wouldn't have any wildlife no matter what.
et2
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It’s amazing how it plays right into this isn’t it. Just when you think we’re about to get out of this, something else come into play ( almost seems planned
). When people get real awakened, we’re totally screwed, it’ll be shit hitting the fan real quick. Toilet paper is one thing ... food ... it’s over.
20Gauge
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This was a large part of my fear with the virus. I kept telling my parents it wasn't the virus, (which was bad enough), but rather the reactions to the virus that matters. I gave them 3 weeks notice on getting ready, ( they were to an extent ), but still go laughed at.
Now everyone is acting like this is over, but in reality it is just getting started....
Capt. Eddie
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From what I saw on the interstates I don't think your friend is the only one sitting home. Iowa and Missouri were almost devoid of traffic, maybe 20% of normal maybe less. It was 10 to 1 semis to cars though.
et2
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I have many clients in the manufacturing business. Those that are essential and still working are having a lot of employees starting to just not show up for work. It will be harder to keep up as many are skilled trades.
Capt. Eddie
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Agreed, but with a caveat. The vast majority of people now days don't have the equipment to hunt or fish. Of those that do the majority don't have a clue what to do with it. So keeping your fish and or game may be harder than harvesting it.
et2
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correct I have clients in the machining & manufacturing business. Well over 50% are closed, the remaining just hanging on.
et2
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Trump tried to fix that by building a wall. We know who opposed it.
20Gauge
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Depends upon the product. Food I agree. Consumables I agree. Furniture, and things that can wait.... don't agree.
20Gauge
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That would make sense. Also we have had threads where the food is not being hauled from the farm to the processing factory. We are having multiple breakdowns.
NoDandy
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Same situation here. We have plenty of rural land around, back up to Daaniel Boone National Forest. Have plenty of deer, turkey, & squirrel. Not many wild hogs.
Problem is area is full of hunters, so when stores run out, the number of hunters will quickly reduce the herds !
20Gauge
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We got a bunch of Tuna for us and as back up to the cats for them to eat. It made sense at the time.
Illini Warrior
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just one of the railroad "inland ports" for the Chicago area had 13,000 truckloads hauled out DAILY - all China goods shipped to the West Coast and red-balled to IL non-stop >>>> there isn't enough domestic inner-country produced good loads to take up that kind of load shortage ...
20Gauge
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Great for him!
The issue we are seeing is that the supply chain is being stressed. Yes, we can sell 5000 lbs of chicken in 4 hours, but it takes 12 weeks to replace them. There are not enough chicken in the pipeline to allow for that level of selling for an extended period of time.
This applies to all the food we are consuming. At some point we will use / consume what can be advanced to the markets. After that, we have to build / produce from scratch. That is when we run out... of whatever it was.... TP / Chicken / Xboxes.... it doesn't matter if we keep pulling things forward we will run out.
mzkitty
I give up.
It does if your cats like tuna. I've had cats that didn't. I hear it's not good to feed them tuna all the time anyway.
20Gauge
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any idea how many truckloads are moving daily from Chicago now?
20Gauge
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We don't. They are outside cats who get a portion of their food from their "territory" which is about 5 acres. As it now stands with the weather warming up, they eat less from us and more from what they harvest. The older cats go after the rabbits, squirrels and birds. The babies, anything from a small bird to a mole.
They eat with us as habit and not from "need" so much right now.
MGT
Senior Member
Reporting from coastal South Carolina:
Ten days ago, I placed a big Instacart order and every type of beef w/exception of ground beef was out of stock. No issue with pork, chicken or turkey. I was curious and checked Kroger Instacart site and same deal. This week i started to see inquiries as to what stores have beef, pop up on local Facebook sites. I went to one grocery store yesterday and damn if there wasn’t any beef left! Stocked up on more chicken, pork and a ham.
Ten days ago, I placed a big Instacart order and every type of beef w/exception of ground beef was out of stock. No issue with pork, chicken or turkey. I was curious and checked Kroger Instacart site and same deal. This week i started to see inquiries as to what stores have beef, pop up on local Facebook sites. I went to one grocery store yesterday and damn if there wasn’t any beef left! Stocked up on more chicken, pork and a ham.
20Gauge
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Based upon how things normally work around here, we have 2-3 days before it hits the mainstream news.
rafter
Since 1999
Local cattle auction skipped a weekly sale 2 weeks ago due to the low cattle prices and the volatility of the market. They had one last week and prices are in the sewer. They had one yesterday and when I went by there were only a hand full of stock trailers and only 2 cattle pots in the parking lot and about 7 cars. I'll find out this afternoon how many cows they had in the sale yesterday. Normally they run around 2k to 2500 head a week.
20Gauge
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An argument could be made that they have begun and we have seen several already.
PPE has already collapsed, but the system is being rebuilt.....
Food supply has already shown several breaks, TP and Bacon for example. We are also hearing where farmers are not getting food to suppliers due to trucks / demand? not being there. We are hearing that feed stores are now unable to supply farmers of meat products for various reasons. It does go on.
We have not had a total collapse yet. For that to happen people need to panic and riot. So far we have seen minor / selective panic and no rioting of note.
So you are correct in that it could be very real this time. In my mind we are just one step from it becoming very real....
What could trigger it? The government screwing up the $1200 stimulus or not getting out that $600 kicker to people who have no jobs. That seems to be the most likely items to do it. So Murphy says it will be something else....lol
This. The easy part is shooting the thing. The hard part is all the rest. I know plenty of people with guns that are going to "hunt". Most haven't cut anything up in their life never mind trying to preserve it. So much of the meat will be wasted or worse they hit something and it crawls off and dies and nobody gets anything.
20Gauge
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Do you think it could be because too much has been sucked into the pipe line already and that is causing the low prices or is it something else? Like no one to process the beef in a timely manner?
Feeding pets is likely going to be an issue moving forward.
Apparently cats are susceptible to the mercury content in tuna if fed on a daily basis. Once or twice a week shouldn't be a big deal however.
My 20 year old grey tabby ate like a dog. He just attacked his plate. He favored canned cat food, canned fish and canned chicken. I left out a bowl of dry kibble but he rarely ate it. It had to be very fresh for him to eat a little of it. I threw out a lot of dry kibble because he just wouldn't finish a bowl once it sat out for a day or two.
Canned fish (sardines, herring, etc.) and canned chicken is not much more expensive than the major brands of canned cat food and it is a much higher quality alternative than the commercial canned cat food which can be rather "sketchy" in it's origin.
If I was real motivated, I would sometimes boil up a pound or two of chicken gizzards, coarsely grind it in a blender and mix it into some cooked rice and chicken stock. Chicken offal, especially the heart, has essential components for cat health.
My mother used to feed her cat raw chicken kidneys which she got for free from her butcher. He seemed to thrive on it.
Cats need taurine which is not present in tuna for humans. Tuna alone will cause problems but, in another way, it is better than nothing! Hard spot to be in when our pets need food.
SouthernBreeze
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Most aren't shutting down - yet anyway. As I said...lack of workers would be the kicker.
But don't let me get in the way of another reason for everybody here to freak out...
From the OP as I read it, it is because of sick workers that these particular plants are shutting down. Not every plant. It has everything to do with sick workers, and nothing to do with more regulations that people are freaking out over.
mzkitty
I give up.
Well, just don't be like my parents with their last cat - Tabby, who was a giant fluffball. She lived to be around 17 and was still going strong until my sister put her down. One more thing on The List of Why I Hate My Ex-Sister. Anyway, don't be like my parents -- they would buy very expensive natural roasted turkey breast for the cat's exclusive use, and make themselves baloney sandwiches.
Thanks.
That is the essential ingredient required in cat food.
Chicken hearts are supposed to be a very good source.
emiliozapata
Senior Member
never been a better time to be a vegan
packyderms_wife
Neither here nor there.
And in many areas store shelves are bare!
