Trivium Pursuit
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I did not see a place to click at the bottom to see demographics. What are the differences in the demographics page in Texas?
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Ragnarok
On and On, South of Heaven
Sounds just like our governor... Good Lord, if you aren't up to making tough and unpopular decisions, get out of the way, man!
Texican
Live Free & Die Free.... God Freedom Country....
The graph will not copy.
The graph shows that the most cases are in the 19 to 59 age range.
The link is under the state map and is the third narrow button from the left.
Texican....
marsh
On TB every waking moment
3724 min
Coronavirus: The Economic 'Rescue' Is Shafting Us
•Premiered 106 minutes ago
Peak Prosperity
As if we didn't have enough reasons to be angry at our "leaders".... Yes, "it didn't have to be this way". We should have had a much higher state of readiness to face this pandemic -- it was a certainty that sooner or later, one of this magnitude would hit. So faced as we've been with medical supply shortages, botched mobilization efforts, and contradictory/harmful official guidance -- it's inexcusable. But just as maddening is the predictable outcome we're seeing with governments' response to the economic crisis triggered by covid-19. In short, as happened in 2008, those who created the economic instability in the first place, by looting and abusing the system, are being bailed out -- generously. And the tab is being picked up by the taxpayer. Most folks don't realize this because the details are hidden behind the "we need to do whatever it takes" emergency measures and the alphabet soup of "facilities" being set up to pump the stimulus out. But at the end of the day, the trillions in forgivable loans and bailouts being funded come either directly from the public Treasury or from a reduction in purchasing power of our currency. Just as we were in 2008, we are being shafted to rescue the rich. But on a much larger scale this time. Chris walks through the numbers in today's video. These parasites are famous for saying "never let a crisis go to waste". Perhaps it's time for we citizens to do the same, and declare the current disaster as a reason to demand the risk-takers start eating their own losses.
marsh
On TB every waking moment
1551 min
Can Tesla, GM And Ford Help Solve The Coronavirus Ventilator Shortage?
•Mar 27, 2020
CNBC
The global coronavirus outbreak has pushed the U.S. health system to the brink. Hospitals are already running out of basic supplies like masks, eye gear, gowns and ventilators. Ventilators are key in helping keep people with the most severe cases of COVID-19 alive, but with the number of infected rising daily, there are not nearly enough of them and no easy way to get more. Here is a look at what governments are doing and how automakers like Ford, GM and Tesla are trying to help. CORRECTION (March 27, 2020): At 2:34 and 6:45 we misidentified Dr. Bon Ku, Emergency Medicine Physician and Director of the Health Design Lab at Thomas Jefferson University. Across the United States, hospitals are facing shortages of ventilators and that could mean the difference between life and death for many patients with COVID-19. Medical device makers, including Philips and Medtronic, have agreed to ramp up supplies as quickly as possible. But because patients diagnosed with or suspected to have COVID-19 often require breathing support, there's widespread concern that these devices won't be developed and shipped quickly enough. Ventilators deliver air to the lungs through a pump that is placed in the windpipe. With supplies running low, anesthesia departments, veterinarians and even zoos are offering ventilators to hospitals. But until more of these machines can be produced, some health experts fear that doctors will be forced to ration care, meaning deciding who may live or die. "We know from studies out of China, for example, that about 17 percent or so coronavirus patients actually require a ventilator," said Dr. Chethan Sathya, a pediatric surgeon at Northwell Health. "So we're not talking about, you know, a large capacity. But when you look at the number of people that are going to be infected by coronavirus, that translates to many, many people. That's why we're worried about this."
Trivium Pursuit
Has No Life - Lives on TB
Haven't listened to this as yet, but about the time you were posting it I was thinking that I suspect the R0 for the S strain is less than that of the L strain
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marsh
On TB every waking moment
14/:16
How to Treat Coronavirus Patients in the ICU (Intensive Care Unit) | Covid-19
•Mar 30, 2020
Doctor Mike Hansen
How to Treat Coronavirus Patients in the ICU (Intensive Care Unit) | Covid-19 Coronavirus (COVID-19) has brought unprecedented challenges regarding the ability to generate timely evidence, all while this pandemic overwhelms hospitals and health care workers. About 5% of patients with coronavirus require admission to the intensive care unit and mechanical ventilation. Based on the recent epidemiological models, Coronavirus is going to hit all the areas in the USA. Every ICU is preparing for the surge, there are a number of changes that intensive care units are making, including ours. We are preparing anesthesiologists (who are not CCM trained) and nurse anesthetists, to help us manage patients with COVID-19. Even though they are not CCM trained, we have a lot of overlap of knowledge, especially when it comes to managing ventilators, and we have a lot of overlap with certain procedures. By allowing anesthesiologists and nurse anesthetists to help in this manner, it will help other intensivists like myself handle the surge of patients coming our way. And because they are helping us, that is the main reason for me making this video, so that they can watch this and be better equipped to handle the surge with us. “Knowing, and implementing all of the info in this video does not guarantee you save a COVID-19 patient living in the ICU, but, it will give you the best chance of doing so” If a patient with COVID-19 is coming to your ICU, they most certainly have pneumonia, and they probably have acute respiratory distress syndrome (ARDS) as well. Patients with severe disease who require ICU admission are likely to have high oxygen requirements. Although both High flow oxygen and noninvasive positive pressure ventilation have been used for COVID-19, the safety of these is uncertain, and they are considered aerosol-generating procedures that warrant specific isolation precautions. Most patients who require ICU admission have ARDS, and they will likely have a better outcome if intubated sooner rather than later. That is another reason why it likely better to skip Hi-Flow oxygen and NIPPV and jump straight to intubation. Acute Respiratory Distress Syndrome (ARDS) ARDS is a clinical diagnosis, based on non-cardiogenic pulmonary edema, with bilateral patchy infiltrates on chest imaging and a PaO2/FiO2 ratio of less than 300. In ARDS, there is this crazy, chaotic inflammatory response within the lungs, with damage to the alveoli and surrounding capillaries, which leads to excess protein and fluid accumulation in interstitial and alveolar spaces. That means decreased lung compliance, increased V̇/Q̇ mismatch, and increases in shunt and dead-space ventilation. Patients with ARDS are at high risk of mortality, which increases with ARDS severity. With that said, mortality is usually the result of the underlying disease that triggered ARDS, rather than refractory hypoxemia. The severity of ARDS is important because it’s going to determine how we manage patients with ARDS. With ARDS, the alveoli fill up with protein and fluid. This leads to at least partial alveolar collapse, and decreased lung compliance, with shunt physiology. Increasing the PEEP minimizes the repeated opening and closing of distal airways and alveoli. It also improves the homogeneity of the lung parenchyma by reducing drastic differences in regional lung compliance. It also improves V̇/Q̇ mismatch and shunt by maintaining alveolar recruitment. You’re essentially “popping open” as many collapsed alveoli as possible. What is the ideal level of PEEP? No one knows for sure. Typically for ARDS, we set the initial PEEP between 10 to 15. Sometimes all the way to 20 if they have severe disease. You don’t want to go too high though, because this increases the risk of pneumothorax. The recommendation is to give COVID-19 patients steroids only if they have ARDS. Critically ill patients with coronavirus often develop septic shock. And for shock, we give IVF and vasopressors. But ARDS patients generally do better when you keep them in a negative fluid balance state. COVID-19 patient, who is in shock and ARDS, what should you do? Based on my experience of treating ARDS patients who are in shock, my recommendation would be to use minimal fluid possible and to start vasopressors early. In my experience, patients tend to respond better to albumin than crystalloids, especially if they have low albumin levels. Either way, you’re going to want to assess fluid resuscitation responsiveness, and if they don’t respond well to fluids, just stick with the vasopressors. 1st line vasopressor is always going to be norepinephrine, aka levophed, with 2nd line being vasopressin, especially if they’re tachycardic. In critically ill adults with fever, the use of medications for temperature control is sometimes needed. Note: To get the proper details please watch the video from first to last without skipping.
marsh
On TB every waking moment
443 min
Duke Joins COVID-19 Study of Remdesivir
•Mar 25, 2020
Duke Health
Dr. Cameron Wolfe discusses Duke joining the clinical trial study of Remdesivir for COVID-19.
1 min 42
Antiviral Remdesivir begins COVID-19 clinical trial
•Mar 24, 2020
60 Minutes
Remdesivir is the first antiviral to begin clinical trials in the U.S. in the race to end the COVID-19 pandemic. See the full report on the rush for a vaccine, here: https://cbsn.ws/33CypeR https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFeeBQWUlTg
Trivium Pursuit
Has No Life - Lives on TB
Thank you, this seems to somewhat echo results posted today in California. 19 to 49 were more than all cases over 50 and over combined. I'm wondering if in both cases it's a youthful demographic in general?
Ragnarok
On and On, South of Heaven
"In the four-page letter to senior military officials, Crozier said only a small contingent of infected sailors have been off-boarded. Most of the crew remain aboard the ship, where following official guidelines for 14-day quarantines and social distancing is impossible.
“Due to a warship’s inherent limitations of space, we are not doing this,” Crozier wrote. “The spread of the disease is ongoing and accelerating.”
He asked for “compliant quarantine rooms” on shore in Guam for his entire crew “as soon as possible.”
“Removing the majority of personnel from a deployed U.S. nuclear aircraft carrier and isolating them for two weeks may seem like an extraordinary measure. ... This is a necessary risk,” Crozier wrote. “Keeping over 4,000 young men and women on board the TR is an unnecessary risk and breaks faith with those Sailors entrusted to our care.”
Isolating a bunch of sailor's on land that are needed to ensure the efficiency of an aircraft carrier?
My, what a tempting target that would make to many of our enemies...
naturallysweet
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bw
Fringe Ranger
That's why illness among our military was supposed to be secret. That was announced a few days back. Someone screwed the pooch in releasing this. Wonder what their political leanings are.
mourningdove
Pura Vida in my garden
When I looked at the Texas numbers, my first thought is that it is the people who are working who are coming down with covid 19. The “essential” workers. Us oldies but goodies are safely stashed away at home.
Texican
Live Free & Die Free.... God Freedom Country....
The uptick in cases in the younger adults is probably due to their propensity in joining crowds at the beach, parties, concerts, etc.
Their inherit belief in their invulnerable is their downfall.
You cannot cure young adult stupidity.
Texican....
Texican
Live Free & Die Free.... God Freedom Country....
Had the same thought when I read the post.
Any destroyers around the carrier?
Texican....
Macgyver
Has No Life - Lives on TB
How long would it take for aloha snackbar to get to guam on a row boat and pull a uss Cole?
Long freaking time.
marsh
On TB every waking moment
11:24 min
Coronavirus: Abbott Labs execs on ramping up production of two new tests
•Mar 30, 2020
CNBC Television
3:14 min
Abbott Labs CEO says rapid coronavirus tests prioritized for frontline workers
•Mar 30, 2020
CNBC Television
.59 min
How It Works: Portable Coronavirus Testing
•Mar 27, 2020
.39 min
COVID-19 Testing Where And When It's Needed Most
•Mar 27, 2020
hiwall
Has No Life - Lives on TB
The Governor did not want to shut down the whole state but was receiving a lot of pressure from the Democrats. So he did a make-shift shutdown just to shut up his critics. Arizona only has three larger cities and the mayors in those cities had long since shut them down. I don't see much use in shutting down rural areas.
Quiet Man
Nothing unreal exists
Seen this yet? I've generally thought of Michael Snyder as a bit of an excitable fellow, but that doesn't make him wrong.
My wife and I are planning our veggie garden now: a few fast-growing, leafy vegetable/nutritions things, but mostly fleshy things with 'mass'. I've ordered some fresh seed.
I am also considering what we need to have on-hand if we should need to grow a little indoors in the fall/winter if things get bad. I also ordered a coupe 50 lb. bags of sunflower seeds for sprouting indoors (in addition to various other sprouting seed that I already have on-hand). Some of it is older, and some only a little -- we've started testing the various bags to see what will germinate, and how well.
www.zerohedge.com
Supplies Are Starting To Get Really Tight Nationwide As Food Distribution Systems Break Down
Authored by Michael Snyder via The End of The American Dream blog,
All across America, store shelves are emptying and people are becoming increasingly frustrated because they can’t get their hands on needed supplies.
Most Americans are blaming “hoarders” for the current mess, but it is actually much more complicated than that. Normally, Americans get a lot of their food from restaurants. In fact, during normal times 36 percent of all Americans eat at a fast food restaurant on any given day. But now that approximately 75 percent of the U.S. is under some sort of a “shelter-in-place” order and most of our restaurants have shut down, things have completely changed. Suddenly our grocery stores are being flooded with unexpected traffic, and many people are buying far more than usual in anticipation of a long pandemic. Unfortunately, our food distribution systems were not designed to handle this sort of a surge, and things are really starting to get crazy out there.
I would like to share with you an excerpt from an email that I was sent recently. It describes the chaos that grocery stores in Utah and Idaho have been experiencing…
Meanwhile, our farmers are facing severe problems of their own. The following comes from CNBC…
Iowa farmer Robb Ewoldt told reporter Emma Newburger that “we’ve stopped saying it can’t get worse”, and he says that this coronavirus pandemic looks like it could be “the straw that broke the camel’s back”…
On Monday, hundreds of cars were lined up to get food from a food bank in Duquesne, Pennsylvania. To many, this was eerily reminiscent of the “bread lines” during the Great Depression of the 1930s.
And it is also being reported that the number of people coming for free meals on Skid Row in Los Angeles has tripled since that city was locked down.
Sadly, these examples are likely only the tip of the iceberg of what we will see in the months ahead.
And it won’t just be the U.S. that is hurting. The following comes from a Guardian article entitled “Coronavirus measures could cause global food shortage, UN warns”…
So what can you do?
Well, perhaps you can start a garden this year if you don’t normally grow one. Apparently this pandemic has sparked a tremendous amount of interest in gardening programs around the country…
Food is only going to get more expensive from here on out, and growing your own food is a way to become more independent of the system.
But if you don’t have any seeds right now, you may want to hurry, because consumer demand is spiking…
But now it is upon us.
Desperate people have been running out to the grocery stores to stock up on toilet paper only to find that they are limited to one or two packages if it is even available.
And now that “panic buying” of seeds has begun, it is probably only a matter of time before many stores start running out.
We have reached a major turning point in our history, and things are only going to get crazier.
Unfortunately, the vast majority of Americans still have absolutely no idea what is ahead of us…
My wife and I are planning our veggie garden now: a few fast-growing, leafy vegetable/nutritions things, but mostly fleshy things with 'mass'. I've ordered some fresh seed.
I am also considering what we need to have on-hand if we should need to grow a little indoors in the fall/winter if things get bad. I also ordered a coupe 50 lb. bags of sunflower seeds for sprouting indoors (in addition to various other sprouting seed that I already have on-hand). Some of it is older, and some only a little -- we've started testing the various bags to see what will germinate, and how well.
Zerohedge
ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero
www.zerohedge.com
Supplies Are Starting To Get Really Tight Nationwide As Food Distribution Systems Break Down
Authored by Michael Snyder via The End of The American Dream blog,
All across America, store shelves are emptying and people are becoming increasingly frustrated because they can’t get their hands on needed supplies.
Most Americans are blaming “hoarders” for the current mess, but it is actually much more complicated than that. Normally, Americans get a lot of their food from restaurants. In fact, during normal times 36 percent of all Americans eat at a fast food restaurant on any given day. But now that approximately 75 percent of the U.S. is under some sort of a “shelter-in-place” order and most of our restaurants have shut down, things have completely changed. Suddenly our grocery stores are being flooded with unexpected traffic, and many people are buying far more than usual in anticipation of a long pandemic. Unfortunately, our food distribution systems were not designed to handle this sort of a surge, and things are really starting to get crazy out there.
I would like to share with you an excerpt from an email that I was sent recently. It describes the chaos that grocery stores in Utah and Idaho have been experiencing…
With most of the country locked down, normal economic activity has come to a standstill, and it is going to become increasingly difficult for our warehouses to meet the demand that grocery stores are putting on them.
Meanwhile, our farmers are facing severe problems of their own. The following comes from CNBC…
The chaos in the financial markets is likely to continue for the foreseeable future, and it is going to remain difficult for farm laborers to move around as long as “shelter-in-place” orders remain in effect on the state level.
Iowa farmer Robb Ewoldt told reporter Emma Newburger that “we’ve stopped saying it can’t get worse”, and he says that this coronavirus pandemic looks like it could be “the straw that broke the camel’s back”…
Of course this comes at a time when millions of Americans are losing their jobs and unemployment is shooting up to unthinkable levels. Without any money coming in, many people are already turning to alternative sources of help in order to feed themselves and their families.
On Monday, hundreds of cars were lined up to get food from a food bank in Duquesne, Pennsylvania. To many, this was eerily reminiscent of the “bread lines” during the Great Depression of the 1930s.
And it is also being reported that the number of people coming for free meals on Skid Row in Los Angeles has tripled since that city was locked down.
Sadly, these examples are likely only the tip of the iceberg of what we will see in the months ahead.
And it won’t just be the U.S. that is hurting. The following comes from a Guardian article entitled “Coronavirus measures could cause global food shortage, UN warns”…
If this pandemic stretches on for an extended period of time, food supplies are inevitably going to get even tighter.
So what can you do?
Well, perhaps you can start a garden this year if you don’t normally grow one. Apparently this pandemic has sparked a tremendous amount of interest in gardening programs around the country…
Food is only going to get more expensive from here on out, and growing your own food is a way to become more independent of the system.
But if you don’t have any seeds right now, you may want to hurry, because consumer demand is spiking…
For years, I have been warning people to get prepared for “the perfect storm” that was coming, but of course most people didn’t listen.
But now it is upon us.
Desperate people have been running out to the grocery stores to stock up on toilet paper only to find that they are limited to one or two packages if it is even available.
And now that “panic buying” of seeds has begun, it is probably only a matter of time before many stores start running out.
We have reached a major turning point in our history, and things are only going to get crazier.
Unfortunately, the vast majority of Americans still have absolutely no idea what is ahead of us…
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Ragnarok
On and On, South of Heaven
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=co3r8PMcx1Y
3:50 min
Coronavirus-infected cruise ship turned away from Florida
•Mar 30, 2020
ABC News
The ship has been turned away by other countries, and leaders in the U.S. are calling for the ship to find another place to dock.
Over the next 3 weeks we will witness an experiment in layered representative democracy in action. 50 states will have a mix of 50 different actions and environments to deal with the pandemic in each area.
All will be challenged in different ways, the stress points for South Dakota and Montana will in no way be the same as California and New York. After 3 weeks some will fair better than others although the area’s in the best and worst will likely be ignored to protect the area’s of greatest political and societal incompetence.
When the media scream’s for DC action they are trying to nudge you into thinking Washington and by default centralized power is the solution to every problem or ill, this is a lie. They want your freedom’s to be handed to centralized authority in exchange for the pretense of security and safety.
Most here I am pretty sure ‘get it’ as to the severity of this plague (not specific bit generic use). When the media or on websites jump to the worst case assumptions or headline the worst number many are trying to feed the fear. Some have other agenda’s and not always is their intent to inform.
The average annual deaths from flu on the US is 36,000 with range 12,000-61,000. The estimate now seem’s to be 100,000-240,000. This would be 3x - 8x the normal flu.
To get below the app. 250,000 will take a tremendous effort and most of the effort will NOT be in DC. For all the talk about testing the team is right there are now multiple test platforms and we finally get point of care testing rolling out. There are also now as of this week large scale testing platforms that are available now that are not yet being fully utilized.
I find it curious the media blabs about testing but never discuss both the numbers and how testing was performed last month in other countries. Was it point if care? Or swabs sent to a centralized test lab with results 24-48 hours later? Was it a society with no diversity that is already predisposed to wear masks when sick as ‘the polite’ thing to do?
As the each problem is identified and eventually overcome the media will look for the next car wreck. Rarely taking time to praise all the ‘police and firefighters’ that handled the last wreck so admirably.
The media is your enemy, the media is the enemy of the United States, and certainly this President. Panic is the enemy of clear thinking in crisis. Hell if our grandparents at 18 and 19 years old could storm the beaches at Normandy in the first wave, surely we can chill at home, minimize trips out wear PPE and stand whatever distance apart when out, and fight the good fight for 3 weeks.
Those who want to tell us to give up or scream its all over, why the hell did I prep if I was just going to roll over and cry because life got a little tough?
Peace out all y’all...
All will be challenged in different ways, the stress points for South Dakota and Montana will in no way be the same as California and New York. After 3 weeks some will fair better than others although the area’s in the best and worst will likely be ignored to protect the area’s of greatest political and societal incompetence.
When the media scream’s for DC action they are trying to nudge you into thinking Washington and by default centralized power is the solution to every problem or ill, this is a lie. They want your freedom’s to be handed to centralized authority in exchange for the pretense of security and safety.
Most here I am pretty sure ‘get it’ as to the severity of this plague (not specific bit generic use). When the media or on websites jump to the worst case assumptions or headline the worst number many are trying to feed the fear. Some have other agenda’s and not always is their intent to inform.
The average annual deaths from flu on the US is 36,000 with range 12,000-61,000. The estimate now seem’s to be 100,000-240,000. This would be 3x - 8x the normal flu.
To get below the app. 250,000 will take a tremendous effort and most of the effort will NOT be in DC. For all the talk about testing the team is right there are now multiple test platforms and we finally get point of care testing rolling out. There are also now as of this week large scale testing platforms that are available now that are not yet being fully utilized.
I find it curious the media blabs about testing but never discuss both the numbers and how testing was performed last month in other countries. Was it point if care? Or swabs sent to a centralized test lab with results 24-48 hours later? Was it a society with no diversity that is already predisposed to wear masks when sick as ‘the polite’ thing to do?
As the each problem is identified and eventually overcome the media will look for the next car wreck. Rarely taking time to praise all the ‘police and firefighters’ that handled the last wreck so admirably.
The media is your enemy, the media is the enemy of the United States, and certainly this President. Panic is the enemy of clear thinking in crisis. Hell if our grandparents at 18 and 19 years old could storm the beaches at Normandy in the first wave, surely we can chill at home, minimize trips out wear PPE and stand whatever distance apart when out, and fight the good fight for 3 weeks.
Those who want to tell us to give up or scream its all over, why the hell did I prep if I was just going to roll over and cry because life got a little tough?
Peace out all y’all...
Ragnarok
On and On, South of Heaven
Always...
Trevor Bedford
@trvrb
A thread on #SARSCoV2 mutations and what they might mean for the #COVID19 vaccination and immunity, in which I predict it will take the virus a few years to mutate enough to significantly hinder a vaccine. 1/12
I'm writing this thread because I have a bunch of mentions talking about 100s of "strains" and no ability to vaccinate against them. I want to clarify scientific usage of strain vs mutation. 2/12
RNA viruses such as influenza mutate very rapidly. The molecular machinery they use to replicate in the body is highly error prone. 3/12
If you follow a transmission chain in which one person with flu infects another person and they infect another person and so on, you'll find that the virus mutates about once every 10 days across its genome. 4/12
Almost all of these mutations will have little to no effect on virus function. Evolution weeds out the mutations that "break" the virus and mutations that make a virus replicate better are extremely rare. 5/12
For influenza, the major driver of evolution is immunity. Mutations will occasionally appear that cause people's existing immunity to no longer protect as well against a newly emerged mutant virus. 6/12
This is why the strain used in the influenza vaccine needs to be updated by the @WHO every year. Here you can see evolution of influenza H3N2 over the past 12 years and the amount of "antigenic drift", ie evolution relevant to vaccines and immunity. nextstrain.org/flu/seasonal/h… 7/12
Importantly, this evolution takes takes place over years. When pandemic swine flu emerged in 2009, it took the virus a solid 3 years before we saw any evidence at all of antigenic drift. nextstrain.org/flu/seasonal/h… 8/12
If I had to guess, I would predict that #SARSCoV2 will behave similarly to existing seasonal coronaviruses in its ability to mutate to avoid vaccines and immunity. 9/12
Here we see that seasonal coronaviruses may behave similarly to seasonal flu in which frequent mutations to spike protein (the protein targeted by immunity) are observed (microbiologyresearch.org/content/journa…,
Genetic drift of human coronavirus OC43 spike gene during adaptive evo Coronaviruses (CoVs) continuously threaten human health. However, to date, the evolutionary mechanisms that govern CoV strain persistence in human populations have not been fully understood. In this … https://www.nature.com/articles/srep11451
). 10/12
Here's @firefoxx66's analysis of seasonal coronavirus OC43 where we see frequent mutations to spike protein. nextstrain.org/community/next… 11/12
So, my prediction is that we should see occasional mutations to the spike protein of #SARSCoV2 that allow the virus to partially escape from vaccines or existing "herd" immunity, but that this process will most likely take years rather than months. 12/12
Is it just me, or does the world look infinitely worse with, because of, these charts?
OA
Ragnarok
On and On, South of Heaven
I was thinking more of a state actor...
I don't think China is going to make a direct move on the U.S. after this virus weakens our society, enough. But, I can see them making a grab for Taiwan and if they have intel that our military is weak? Might as well hit them, too, to avoid the backlash.
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=co3r8PMcx1Y
3:50 min
Coronavirus-infected cruise ship turned away from Florida
•Mar 30, 2020
ABC News
The ship has been turned away by other countries, and leaders in the U.S. are calling for the ship to find another place to dock.
Where? If only we could get the Americans off, and quarantined, then the ship sent to Cuba or Venezuela...
OA
Everything will get more expensive in the future. I agree that the road ahead is longer than just beating the virus. It is fascinating as sheeple start realizing that what we want and what need are not the same things. As Hollywood lounges in their plush homes wondering why nobody cares about them, real people with real problems don’t have time to hear them whine and preach.Seen this yet?
Zerohedge
ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero
Supplies Are Starting To Get Really Tight Nationwide As Food Distribution Systems Break Down
Authored by Michael Snyder via The End of The American Dream blog,
All across America, store shelves are emptying and people are becoming increasingly frustrated because they can’t get their hands on needed supplies.
Most Americans are blaming “hoarders” for the current mess, but it is actually much more complicated than that. Normally, Americans get a lot of their food from restaurants. In fact, during normal times 36 percent of all Americans eat at a fast food restaurant on any given day. But now that approximately 75 percent of the U.S. is under some sort of a “shelter-in-place” order and most of our restaurants have shut down, things have completely changed. Suddenly our grocery stores are being flooded with unexpected traffic, and many people are buying far more than usual in anticipation of a long pandemic. Unfortunately, our food distribution systems were not designed to handle this sort of a surge, and things are really starting to get crazy out there.
I would like to share with you an excerpt from an email that I was sent recently. It describes the chaos that grocery stores in Utah and Idaho have been experiencing…
With most of the country locked down, normal economic activity has come to a standstill, and it is going to become increasingly difficult for our warehouses to meet the demand that grocery stores are putting on them.
Meanwhile, our farmers are facing severe problems of their own. The following comes from CNBC…
The chaos in the financial markets is likely to continue for the foreseeable future, and it is going to remain difficult for farm laborers to move around as long as “shelter-in-place” orders remain in effect on the state level.
Iowa farmer Robb Ewoldt told reporter Emma Newburger that “we’ve stopped saying it can’t get worse”, and he says that this coronavirus pandemic looks like it could be “the straw that broke the camel’s back”…
Of course this comes at a time when millions of Americans are losing their jobs and unemployment is shooting up to unthinkable levels. Without any money coming in, many people are already turning to alternative sources of help in order to feed themselves and their families.
On Monday, hundreds of cars were lined up to get food from a food bank in Duquesne, Pennsylvania. To many, this was eerily reminiscent of the “bread lines” during the Great Depression of the 1930s.
And it is also being reported that the number of people coming for free meals on Skid Row in Los Angeles has tripled since that city was locked down.
Sadly, these examples are likely only the tip of the iceberg of what we will see in the months ahead.
And it won’t just be the U.S. that is hurting. The following comes from a Guardian article entitled “Coronavirus measures could cause global food shortage, UN warns”…
If this pandemic stretches on for an extended period of time, food supplies are inevitably going to get even tighter.
So what can you do?
Well, perhaps you can start a garden this year if you don’t normally grow one. Apparently this pandemic has sparked a tremendous amount of interest in gardening programs around the country…
Food is only going to get more expensive from here on out, and growing your own food is a way to become more independent of the system.
But if you don’t have any seeds right now, you may want to hurry, because consumer demand is spiking…
For years, I have been warning people to get prepared for “the perfect storm” that was coming, but of course most people didn’t listen.
But now it is upon us.
Desperate people have been running out to the grocery stores to stock up on toilet paper only to find that they are limited to one or two packages if it is even available.
And now that “panic buying” of seeds has begun, it is probably only a matter of time before many stores start running out.
We have reached a major turning point in our history, and things are only going to get crazier.
Unfortunately, the vast majority of Americans still have absolutely no idea what is ahead of us…
Hopefully she'll rescind these orders at a much earlier date. But it is Kate Brown, who is tyrannical on a good day.
Always, as well as subs, when underway... Still and all, you're right. A damned fine target for somebody...
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Tom McDowell
BAMN
This what I've been seeing here at the edges of the supply lines.
Trucks not showing up at all or in a neighboring town (45 miles) - 2,000 cases of product. For an area with 3,500 local shoppers.
In my area, 350 shoppers, no show on a truck, reduced delivery several days later. Might be better now. Find out in a few days. Small town store, owner and help in 'at risk' demographic. Reduced hours, may move to phone in and pick up. Some locals volunteering to deliver at no charge. Will close if inventory gets worse. Owner used to drive 90 - 120 miles once a week to costco or other stores to round out the inventory.
Other small store/deli - picked over quite a few holes. No longer accepting any special orders. Used to be able to order a bag of flour, case of chili, whatever.
Problems with out of towners, trying to buy up all soups, etc..
School is making and delivering lunches using the school buses, deliver at the same time as morning pick up. To continue as long as supplies are available.
Food bank, bigger problems. Limited to what arrives on trucks. Food boxes pre-packed. Fill out paper, slip through the door, step away, box placed on porch, door locked. No one allowed in. All volunteers are seniors at risk. They expect to close very soon.
Making my run to town 30 miles north Friday. First death in Montana was from the area, cases are now five for the area. Going for Pharmacy and groceries. Only allowed 30 days on meds, medicaid limitations. Five heart meds. Definitely in the 'at risk' crowd. Expecting the worst at the supermarket. No worries, well stocked pantry, filling gaps. Been living mostly off of preps for well over five years. Try to update on that trip later.
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". We should have had a much higher state of readiness to face this pandemic -- it was a certainty that sooner or later, one of this magnitude would hit.View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5bTkoHt-kk
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Coronavirus: The Economic 'Rescue' Is Shafting Us
•Premiered 106 minutes ago
Peak Prosperity
As if we didn't have enough reasons to be angry at our "leaders".... Yes, "it didn't have to be this way". We should have had a much higher state of readiness to face this pandemic -- it was a certainty that sooner or later, one of this magnitude would hit. So faced as we've been with medical supply shortages, botched mobilization efforts, and contradictory/harmful official guidance -- it's inexcusable. But just as maddening is the predictable outcome we're seeing with governments' response to the economic crisis triggered by covid-19. In short, as happened in 2008, those who created the economic instability in the first place, by looting and abusing the system, are being bailed out -- generously. And the tab is being picked up by the taxpayer. Most folks don't realize this because the details are hidden behind the "we need to do whatever it takes" emergency measures and the alphabet soup of "facilities" being set up to pump the stimulus out. But at the end of the day, the trillions in forgivable loans and bailouts being funded come either directly from the public Treasury or from a reduction in purchasing power of our currency. Just as we were in 2008, we are being shafted to rescue the rich. But on a much larger scale this time. Chris walks through the numbers in today's video. These parasites are famous for saying "never let a crisis go to waste". Perhaps it's time for we citizens to do the same, and declare the current disaster as a reason to demand the risk-takers start eating their own losses.
The last one of this magnitude to hit was over 100 yrs ago. You are correct in arguing that there should have been a better response, but no way were they going to be totally prepared for this.
marsh
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33:30 min
Wuhan caregiver recalls discharged CCP virus patients reinfected, patient attempting suicide
•Premiered 35 minutes ago
China in Focus - NTD
Attempted suicide, grief and uncertainty, a Wuhan caregiver working at a local quarantine center shares what he saw. Wuhan residents line up outside funeral homes to get the ashes of loved ones who perished from the #CCPvirus (#coronavirus). But are the ashes those of family members? #Spain now has the second-most people infected with the CCP-virus in Europe. Today, we take a look into Spain's relationship with China. Why did the Czech Republic act decisively in the early stage of the CCP virus outbreak? What lessons did the Czech people learn from being under communist rule? In the US, the death toll has surpassed 36-hundred. This, as several American companies look to produce tens of thousands of ventilators by June. NTD refers to the novel coronavirus, which causes the disease COVID-19, as the CCP virus because the Chinese Communist Party's coverup and mismanagement allowed the virus to spread throughout China and create a global pandemic.
Tom McDowell
BAMN
In New York, a surge in deaths has overwhelmed the city’s permanent morgues and filled storage spaces in many hospitals to capacity.
The Federal Emergency Management Agency is sending 85 refrigerated trucks to serve as temporary morgues, the city said.
Its been that way for days at Brooklyn Hospital Center, which said in a statement that the unprecedented crisis calls for extraordinary measures and that extra storage is needed to accommodate the tragic spike in deaths, placing a strain on the entire system of care from hospitals to funeral homes.
“Grieving families cannot quickly make arrangements, and their loved ones who have passed are remaining in hospitals longer, thus the need for this accommodation,” the hospital in Brooklyns Fort Greene neighbourhood said.
The city’s medical examiner’s office has also started operating a makeshift morgue, as it did after the 9/11 terrorist attacks, to provide emergency capacity as the city’s permanent facilities fill up.
The city’s coronavirus death toll more than doubled in the past four days, surging from 450 on Friday to 932 as of Tuesday morning, AP reports.
www.theguardian.com
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The Federal Emergency Management Agency is sending 85 refrigerated trucks to serve as temporary morgues, the city said.
Its been that way for days at Brooklyn Hospital Center, which said in a statement that the unprecedented crisis calls for extraordinary measures and that extra storage is needed to accommodate the tragic spike in deaths, placing a strain on the entire system of care from hospitals to funeral homes.
“Grieving families cannot quickly make arrangements, and their loved ones who have passed are remaining in hospitals longer, thus the need for this accommodation,” the hospital in Brooklyns Fort Greene neighbourhood said.
The city’s medical examiner’s office has also started operating a makeshift morgue, as it did after the 9/11 terrorist attacks, to provide emergency capacity as the city’s permanent facilities fill up.
The city’s coronavirus death toll more than doubled in the past four days, surging from 450 on Friday to 932 as of Tuesday morning, AP reports.
Italy records lowest daily increase in Covid-19 deaths in a week – as it happened
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mzkitty
I give up.
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Nothing unreal exists
Thank you, Tom, for this type of excellent feedback.
Doomer Doug
TB Fanatic
The total deaths went from 3000 or so to 3700 in about12 hours TODAY.
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5bTkoHt-kk
3724 min
Coronavirus: The Economic 'Rescue' Is Shafting Us
•Premiered 106 minutes ago
Peak Prosperity
As if we didn't have enough reasons to be angry at our "leaders".... Yes, "it didn't have to be this way". We should have had a much higher state of readiness to face this pandemic -- it was a certainty that sooner or later, one of this magnitude would hit. So faced as we've been with medical supply shortages, botched mobilization efforts, and contradictory/harmful official guidance -- it's inexcusable. But just as maddening is the predictable outcome we're seeing with governments' response to the economic crisis triggered by covid-19. In short, as happened in 2008, those who created the economic instability in the first place, by looting and abusing the system, are being bailed out -- generously. And the tab is being picked up by the taxpayer. Most folks don't realize this because the details are hidden behind the "we need to do whatever it takes" emergency measures and the alphabet soup of "facilities" being set up to pump the stimulus out. But at the end of the day, the trillions in forgivable loans and bailouts being funded come either directly from the public Treasury or from a reduction in purchasing power of our currency. Just as we were in 2008, we are being shafted to rescue the rich. But on a much larger scale this time. Chris walks through the numbers in today's video. These parasites are famous for saying "never let a crisis go to waste". Perhaps it's time for we citizens to do the same, and declare the current disaster as a reason to demand the risk-takers start eating their own losses.
I question anything guys like him say. Know-it-alls with an agenda of some sort. I wouldn't buy a used car from him, that is for sure. We should have been prepared? How to you prepare for an unknown virus? How do you make test kits when you have no virus to make it for and test kits have to be made to match a particular virus? What if we had been prepared for a virus like this but the one that came around happened to be 20 times worse? Could he please tell us all what the next health crisis will be exactly so we can prepare for it? No he can't. No one can. All he can do is look back and tell us what we should have done. Hell, we can all do that every time anything happens.
Doomer Doug
TB Fanatic
And now Idaho is dealing with a 6.5 earthquake. Lots of system fraying going on.
marsh
On TB every waking moment
5:17 min
Rick Perry's chilling warning about the US energy sector
•Mar 31, 2020
Fox News
The United States is being flooded with foreign oil. Former Energy Secretary Rick Perry says it is about national security.