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States and local communities are using coronavirus to shut down gun stores
By Andrea Widburg

Thanks to the coronavirus, Americans are buying guns. They viscerally understand that in unstable times, the police, who are the front line of the criminal justice system, may be so overwhelmed that they can no longer appear on the scene in time to save citizens from looters and other marauders.

Various jurisdictions, however, are responding by foreclosing Americans' right to keep and carry arms. The sheriff in Alameda County, California, forced a gun store owner to shut down because his store was not "essential." The Los Angeles County sheriff closed gun stores as "nonessential." New Jersey's Democrat governor, Phil Murphy, issued an executive order shutting down gun sales. Even in Wake County, North Carolina, the sheriff is stopping new gun applications.

Significantly, although Pennsylvania's governor tried to end gun sales, he backed down when the Supreme Court, although generally allowing the executive order, nevertheless held that, as regards guns, he could not block a constitutional right. The court was correct. Nothing good ever flows from allowing the government to deprive people of their right to bear arms. The Second Amendment's origin proves that.

Looking back at the American Revolution, it's easy to assume that the result — an American victory — was a foregone conclusion. Right up until the bitter end, though, the odds favored the British, who had the world's most powerful military.

The American advantage was that, because they were far from "civilization," guns were a necessity. One does not go into the frontier unarmed. Too many people had untamed forests pressing against their fragile communities to manage without at least one gun.

Because of their circumstances, the American colonists didn't just possess arms; they knew how to use them. While George Washington despaired of turning his volunteers into a well drilled, spit-and-polish military, at least he didn't have to worry about weapons training. His ragtag army knew how to load, aim, and shoot. If the Continental Congress could provide the bullets, many of the colonists willingly provided their guns and know-how.

The Revolutionary War had been over for eight years when the Founders enacted the Bill of Rights. It was in that context — the aftermath of a small colony's successful revolution against the most powerful nation in the world — that the Founders determined that American citizens would never again be subordinate to, rather than in control of, their government.

For this reason, the first ten amendments to the Constitution do not define government power; they limit it. More importantly, they limit it not by having the government graciously extend a few privileges to America's citizens, privileges that the government can as easily revoke, but instead by stating rights that individuals automatically possess without regard to the government's powers.

The second of these amendments — one of only two amendments dedicated exclusively to a single principle — refers to every citizen's inherent (not government-granted, but inherent) right to possess arms:
A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.
If the Second Amendment were written in modern English, the Founders might have phrased it this way:
The only way citizens can defend themselves against a tyrannical government is to create their own army (which, obviously, is separate from the government's army). The people, therefore, have an overarching and innate right to have guns, and the government may not interfere with that right.
Regarding that "well regulated militia," the revolutionaries' experience had shown them that citizens don't need to have a standing militia that is always ready to fight. Instead, citizens need the freedom to come together as a well regulated militia on an "as needed" basis (the need being the necessity to secure individual freedom against the government). This ability to transform from peaceful citizens into an effective militia when needed requires a citizenry that, on its own initiative, is both well armed and competent with those arms.

The Founders understood that every government has the potential to become tyrannical (although they couldn't have predicted in their wildest dreams the mad scope of worldwide government killing in the 20th and 21st centuries).
They therefore embedded in the Bill of Rights the ultimate barrier against tyranny: an armed population that, if needed, can instantly transform itself into a citizen army.

Yes, some of those armed citizens will do bad things with their guns, but even at their worst, they are insignificant killers compared to rogue governments. As a matter of principle, supported by data, an armed citizenry is safer than an unarmed one when it comes to the biggest, most bloodthirsty, most deadly predator known to man: government.
 

marsh

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Coronavirus: 4 major banks agree to 90-day grace period for mortgage payments in CA, Newsom says


Wednesday, March 25, 2020 2:16PM
SACRAMENTO, Calif. (KABC) -- Gov. Gavin Newsom on Wednesday announced that four major banks have agreed to grant a 90-day grace period for mortgage payments in California amid the coronavirus outbreak.

Newsom said that four out of five of the nation's largest banks - JP Morgan Chase, U.S. Bank, Wells Fargo and Citibank - have all committed to the moratorium. Meanwhile, Bank of America agreed to commit to a 30-day forbearance period.

"I hope they will reconsider and join those other banks that are willing to do the right thing by at least extending that commitment to their customers for at least 90 days," he said during a press conference Wednesday.

Newsom noted that California does not have regulatory oversight over those banks, though many state banks and credit unions have also agreed to the grace period.

The news comes after Congress reached a deal with the Trump administration on Wednesday on a $2 trillion stimulus package that will increase unemployment benefits by $600 per week on top of what the state provides. Newsom said the state will receive $10 billion in relief as part of the emergency bill.

A total of 1 million people have filed for unemployment in the state since March 13, he said.

Newsom also announced 2,535 new cases - a 17% increase since the previous day - and a total of 53 deaths in the state.

As the 1,000-bed U.S. Navy Ship Mercy prepares to dock in Los Angeles to aid local hospitals, Newsom said additional resources are coming in the form of 100 million N95 masks, which have been secured for healthcare workers in the state.

The vessel, which is carrying 800 medical personnel and support staff, will not be used to treat COVID-19 patients. Instead, it will handle other cases, easing the burden on Los Angeles hospitals treating patients infected with the virus. Assistance from the ship will free up resources, such as ventilators and intensive care units.

According to the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, the Mercy should arrive at the Port of Los Angeles sometime Thursday morning.

Across the Southland, there have been over 1,000 confirmed coronavirus cases and 21 deaths, with nearly 250 presumptive cases in San Diego County.
 

marsh

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PSA Safe Grocery Shopping in COVID-19 Pandemic – UPDATED!!!
•Mar 24, 2020
Jeffrey VanWingen


PSA Safe Grocery Shopping in COVID-19 Pandemic – UPDATED!!! IMPORTANT EDIT FROM NIH DATA: COVID-19 LIVES ON CARDBOARD FOR 1 DAY. SEE SOURCES BELOW. This is the most current video for New CDC data, safe takeout food practices, and an updated practice for safe grocery shopping/handling.
 

PanBear

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poppy

Veteran Member
That figures out to 66 million if everyone is tested.

If that were true, that would mean we have 1,300,000, people in the severe/critical category. Using the current death rate number of about 2%.
We currently have just under 1500 in that category. Where are they?
 
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AlfaMan

Has No Life - Lives on TB
When they run short on reefer trucks.

The truck rental locations in NYC and across the bridges in NJ will be stripped for reefers next. Penske, Ryder, Hertz and there's some other local rental agencies in the area. Stocks of reefers are high in that area due to the amount of food distribution that takes place in the NYC area.
 

Tristan

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States and local communities are using coronavirus to shut down gun stores
By Andrea Widburg

Thanks to the coronavirus, Americans are buying guns. They viscerally understand that in unstable times, the police, who are the front line of the criminal justice system, may be so overwhelmed that they can no longer appear on the scene in time to save citizens from looters and other marauders.

Various jurisdictions, however, are responding by foreclosing Americans' right to keep and carry arms. The sheriff in Alameda County, California, forced a gun store owner to shut down because his store was not "essential." The Los Angeles County sheriff closed gun stores as "nonessential." New Jersey's Democrat governor, Phil Murphy, issued an executive order shutting down gun sales. Even in Wake County, North Carolina, the sheriff is stopping new gun applications.

Significantly, although Pennsylvania's governor tried to end gun sales, he backed down when the Supreme Court, although generally allowing the executive order, nevertheless held that, as regards guns, he could not block a constitutional right. The court was correct. Nothing good ever flows from allowing the government to deprive people of their right to bear arms. The Second Amendment's origin proves that.

Looking back at the American Revolution, it's easy to assume that the result — an American victory — was a foregone conclusion. Right up until the bitter end, though, the odds favored the British, who had the world's most powerful military.

The American advantage was that, because they were far from "civilization," guns were a necessity. One does not go into the frontier unarmed. Too many people had untamed forests pressing against their fragile communities to manage without at least one gun.

Because of their circumstances, the American colonists didn't just possess arms; they knew how to use them. While George Washington despaired of turning his volunteers into a well drilled, spit-and-polish military, at least he didn't have to worry about weapons training. His ragtag army knew how to load, aim, and shoot. If the Continental Congress could provide the bullets, many of the colonists willingly provided their guns and know-how.

The Revolutionary War had been over for eight years when the Founders enacted the Bill of Rights. It was in that context — the aftermath of a small colony's successful revolution against the most powerful nation in the world — that the Founders determined that American citizens would never again be subordinate to, rather than in control of, their government.

For this reason, the first ten amendments to the Constitution do not define government power; they limit it. More importantly, they limit it not by having the government graciously extend a few privileges to America's citizens, privileges that the government can as easily revoke, but instead by stating rights that individuals automatically possess without regard to the government's powers.

The second of these amendments — one of only two amendments dedicated exclusively to a single principle — refers to every citizen's inherent (not government-granted, but inherent) right to possess arms:

If the Second Amendment were written in modern English, the Founders might have phrased it this way:

Regarding that "well regulated militia," the revolutionaries' experience had shown them that citizens don't need to have a standing militia that is always ready to fight. Instead, citizens need the freedom to come together as a well regulated militia on an "as needed" basis (the need being the necessity to secure individual freedom against the government). This ability to transform from peaceful citizens into an effective militia when needed requires a citizenry that, on its own initiative, is both well armed and competent with those arms.

The Founders understood that every government has the potential to become tyrannical (although they couldn't have predicted in their wildest dreams the mad scope of worldwide government killing in the 20th and 21st centuries).
They therefore embedded in the Bill of Rights the ultimate barrier against tyranny: an armed population that, if needed, can instantly transform itself into a citizen army.

Yes, some of those armed citizens will do bad things with their guns, but even at their worst, they are insignificant killers compared to rogue governments. As a matter of principle, supported by data, an armed citizenry is safer than an unarmed one when it comes to the biggest, most bloodthirsty, most deadly predator known to man: government.


Wow, how shocking is that, right? Right?
 

Ragnarok

On and On, South of Heaven
When we have a quick test for antibodies, to show who has already had it, gotten over it,
and also can't infect any others now, all those people can start going back to work, yes?

Panic Early, Beat the Rush!
- Shane
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Until they come down with a different strain...
 

Johnny Reb

Senior Member
Saw about 10 staggering navajos on my drive through Farmington yesterday.....they gonna keep their esteemed tribal members out on the res or just keep whitey out?
That's repulsive Matt. I've worked with many very good hearted, fine, upstanding, honorable Native Americans in this state. In 30myears of healthcare I've seen just as many white people as any other race with alcoholism issues. All you just showed was your ignorance.
 

CapeCMom

Veteran Member
One of the girls in the Cape Cod COVID group said she called her mortgage company to ask about delaying her mortgage payment. They said fine she could do it for three months...but at the end of the three months she had to pay it back in full....what a bunch of ass wipes! How are people supposed to do That?
 

marsh

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Gov. Newsom Signs Order to Extend Deadlines for Presidential Primary Ballot Counting, Expand Vote-by-Mail Options

What could possibly go wrong?

By Katy Grimes, March 21, 2020 7:46 am

California Governor Gavin Newsom issued an executive order Friday to permit vote-by-mail procedures to be used in three upcoming special elections, “protecting public health and safety during the COVID-19 outbreak.”

Newsom’s order also allows the Presidential Primary ballot counting to continue beyond the April 10 deadline, “reporting of the official canvas results remain outstanding and ongoing.”

California’s Secretary of State Alex Padilla announced on March 3, Primary Election Day, “State law gives county elections officials up to 30 days after Election Day to complete vote counting, auditing, and certification. I will certify the statewide results on Friday, April 10th. April 10th is well before the end of the national primary schedule and well before the political parties‘ nominating conventions.”

According to his press statement and order, “the governor’s order also extends the deadlines for ballot counting, tabulation, and other responsibilities related to the official canvass of California’s Presidential Primary Election that could risk undermining social distancing measures, and suspends the timeframes for public hearings required by political subdivisions that are in the process of changing from an at-large method of election to district elections.”

A copy of the Governor’s executive order can be found here. What could possibly go wrong?
 

Matt

Veteran Member
That's repulsive Matt. I've worked with many very good hearted, fine, upstanding, honorable Native Americans in this state. In 30myears of healthcare I've seen just as many white people as any other race with alcoholism issues. All you just showed was your ignorance.
Maybe....didn't see any whites staggering around town though....just calling it like I saw it. It is a valid question.....be nice to quit getting hit up for change at the Walmart as well.

Be nice if they would quit staggering into traffic on 550 as well....worse than the damned deer!
 

homepark

Resist
One of the girls in the Cape Cod COVID group said she called her mortgage company to ask about delaying her mortgage payment. They said fine she could do it for three months...but at the end of the three months she had to pay it back in full....what a bunch of ass wipes! How are people supposed to do That?
You would have to renegotiate a new mortgage with the late payments added in to a new mortgage amount.
 

marsh

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What Is An ‘Essential’ Or ‘Non-Essential’ Employee Under Coronavirus Stay Home Orders?

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Gov. Gavin Newsom. (Photo: Kevin Sanders for California Globe)

What is an ‘Essential’ or ‘Non-Essential’ Employee under Coronavirus Stay Home Orders?

Gov. Newsom’s Executive Order directing residents to stay home exempts ‘essential’ workers

By Katy Grimes, March 24, 2020 1:39 pm

On March 19, 2020, Governor Gavin Newsom issued Executive Order N-33-20 directing all residents immediately to heed current State public health directives to stay home, except as needed to maintain continuity of operations of essential critical infrastructure sectors and additional sectors as the State Public Health Officer may designate as critical to protect health and well-being of all Californians.

Heed means “to give consideration, attention to.”

In accordance with this order, the State Public Health Officer has designated the following list of “Essential Critical Infrastructure Workers” to help state, local, tribal, and industry partners as they work to protect communities, while ensuring continuity of functions critical to public health and safety, as well as economic and national security.

The Healthcare and Public Health Sector considered Essential:
  • Workers providing COVID-19 testing
  • physicians, dentists, psychologists, mid-level practitioners, nurses and assistants, infection control and quality assurance personnel, pharmacists, physical and occupational therapists and assistants, social workers, speech pathologists and diagnostic and therapeutic technicians and technologists.
  • Hospital and laboratory personnel.
  • Workers in other medical facilities (including Ambulatory Health and Surgical, Blood Banks, Clinics, Community Mental Health, Comprehensive Outpatient rehabilitation, End Stage Renal Disease, Health Departments, Home Health care, Hospices, Hospitals, Long Term Care, Organ Pharmacies, Procurement Organizations, Psychiatric, Residential, Rural Health Clinics and Federally Qualified Health Centers, cannabis retailers).
  • Manufacturers, technicians, logistics and warehouse operators, and distributors of medical equipment, personal protective equipment (PPE), medical gases, pharmaceuticals, blood and blood products, vaccines, testing materials, laboratory supplies, cleaning, sanitizing, disinfecting or sterilization supplies, personal care/hygiene products, and tissue and paper towel products.
  • Pharmacy employees.
  • …and many more you can find HERE.
Emergency Services Sector Essential Workforce:
  • Law Enforcement, Public Safety and First Responders.
Public Works sector Essential workforce:
  • Workers who support the operation, inspection, and maintenance of essential dams, locks and levees.
  • Workers who support the operation, inspection, and maintenance of essential public works facilities and operations, including bridges, water and sewer main breaks, fleet maintenance personnel, construction of critical or strategic infrastructure, construction material suppliers, traffic signal maintenance, emergency location services for buried utilities, maintenance of digital systems infrastructure supporting public works operations, and other emergent issues
  • Workers such as plumbers, electricians, exterminators, and other service providers who provide services that are necessary to maintaining the safety, sanitation, and essential operation of residences.
  • Support, such as road and line clearing, to ensure the availability of needed facilities, transportation, energy and communications Support to ensure the effective removal, storage, and disposal of residential and commercial solid waste and hazardous waste.
Food and Agriculture sector Essential Workforce:
  • Workers supporting groceries, pharmacies, and other retail that sells food and beverage products.
  • Restaurant carry-out and quick serve food operations – including food preparation, carry-out and delivery food employees.
  • Food manufacturer employees and their supplier employees.
  • Farm workers.
  • Workers who provide sanitation of all food manufacturing processes and operations from wholesale to retail.
  • Animal agriculture workers.
Energy sector Essential Workforce:
  • Workers who maintain, ensure, or restore the generation, transmission, and distribution of electric power, including call centers, utility workers, reliability engineers and fleet maintenance technicians.
  • all other workers employed by energy companies.
Essential Workforce – Petroleum workers – all workers
Essential Workforce – Natural and propane gas workers
Water and Wastewater sector
Essential Workforce:
  • Operational staff at water authorities
  • Operational staff at community water systems
  • Operational staff at wastewater treatment facilities
  • Workers repairing water and wastewater conveyances and performing required sampling or monitoring.
The Transportation Systems Sector consists of seven key subsectors, or modes:
  • Aviation
  • Highway and Motor Carrier
  • Maritime Transportation System
  • Mass Transit and Passenger Rail
  • Pipeline Systems consist of pipelines carrying natural gas hazardous liquids
  • Freight Rail
  • Postal and Shipping
Financial Services Sector includes thousands of depository institutions, providers of investment products, insurance companies, other credit and financing organizations, and the providers of the critical financial utilities and services that support these functions.
Communications and Information Technology sector Essential Workforce:
  • Maintenance of communications infrastructure
  • Workers who support radio, television, and media service, including, but not limited to front line news reporters, studio, and technicians for newsgathering and reporting
  • Workers at Independent System Operators and Regional Transmission Organizations, and Network Operations staff, engineers and/or technicians to manage the network or operate facilities.
  • Workers who support command centers, including, but not limited to Network Operations Command Center, Broadcast Operations Control Center and Security Operations Command Center
  • Data center operators, including system administrators, HVAC & electrical engineers, security personnel, IT managers, data transfer solutions engineers, software and hardware engineers, and database administrators.
  • Customer service and support staff.
There are more sectors including County government workers, critical manufacturing and hazardous materials. For any lingering questions, see the Governor’s Essential Critical Workers listing.
 

Esto Perpetua

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States and local communities are using coronavirus to shut down gun stores
By Andrea Widburg

Thanks to the coronavirus, Americans are buying guns. They viscerally understand that in unstable times, the police, who are the front line of the criminal justice system, may be so overwhelmed that they can no longer appear on the scene in time to save citizens from looters and other marauders.

Various jurisdictions, however, are responding by foreclosing Americans' right to keep and carry arms. The sheriff in Alameda County, California, forced a gun store owner to shut down because his store was not "essential." The Los Angeles County sheriff closed gun stores as "nonessential." New Jersey's Democrat governor, Phil Murphy, issued an executive order shutting down gun sales. Even in Wake County, North Carolina, the sheriff is stopping new gun applications.

Significantly, although Pennsylvania's governor tried to end gun sales, he backed down when the Supreme Court, although generally allowing the executive order, nevertheless held that, as regards guns, he could not block a constitutional right. The court was correct. Nothing good ever flows from allowing the government to deprive people of their right to bear arms. The Second Amendment's origin proves that.

Looking back at the American Revolution, it's easy to assume that the result — an American victory — was a foregone conclusion. Right up until the bitter end, though, the odds favored the British, who had the world's most powerful military.

The American advantage was that, because they were far from "civilization," guns were a necessity. One does not go into the frontier unarmed. Too many people had untamed forests pressing against their fragile communities to manage without at least one gun.

Because of their circumstances, the American colonists didn't just possess arms; they knew how to use them. While George Washington despaired of turning his volunteers into a well drilled, spit-and-polish military, at least he didn't have to worry about weapons training. His ragtag army knew how to load, aim, and shoot. If the Continental Congress could provide the bullets, many of the colonists willingly provided their guns and know-how.

The Revolutionary War had been over for eight years when the Founders enacted the Bill of Rights. It was in that context — the aftermath of a small colony's successful revolution against the most powerful nation in the world — that the Founders determined that American citizens would never again be subordinate to, rather than in control of, their government.

For this reason, the first ten amendments to the Constitution do not define government power; they limit it. More importantly, they limit it not by having the government graciously extend a few privileges to America's citizens, privileges that the government can as easily revoke, but instead by stating rights that individuals automatically possess without regard to the government's powers.

The second of these amendments — one of only two amendments dedicated exclusively to a single principle — refers to every citizen's inherent (not government-granted, but inherent) right to possess arms:

If the Second Amendment were written in modern English, the Founders might have phrased it this way:

Regarding that "well regulated militia," the revolutionaries' experience had shown them that citizens don't need to have a standing militia that is always ready to fight. Instead, citizens need the freedom to come together as a well regulated militia on an "as needed" basis (the need being the necessity to secure individual freedom against the government). This ability to transform from peaceful citizens into an effective militia when needed requires a citizenry that, on its own initiative, is both well armed and competent with those arms.

The Founders understood that every government has the potential to become tyrannical (although they couldn't have predicted in their wildest dreams the mad scope of worldwide government killing in the 20th and 21st centuries).
They therefore embedded in the Bill of Rights the ultimate barrier against tyranny: an armed population that, if needed, can instantly transform itself into a citizen army.

Yes, some of those armed citizens will do bad things with their guns, but even at their worst, they are insignificant killers compared to rogue governments. As a matter of principle, supported by data, an armed citizenry is safer than an unarmed one when it comes to the biggest, most bloodthirsty, most deadly predator known to man: government.
The utility shut offs that are being discussed for businesses that don't comply with shut down orders are bothering me.

See, if they want to grab our guns this crisis is tailor made for it. The military or the UN is not going to go door to door like people say.

All they have to do is click a mouse in an office somewhere or issue an executive order for rationing of food, cutting off utilities, freezing assets and whatnot.
 

marsh

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Prince Charles, heir to the British throne, has tested positive for new coronavirus
CORONAVIRUS
by: Associated Press
Posted: Mar 25, 2020 / 03:52 AM PDT / Updated: Mar 25, 2020 / 03:38 PM PDT

Prince Charles has tested positive for new coronavirus

This video aired on the KTLA 5 Morning News on March 25, 2020.

Prince Charles, the heir to the British throne, has tested positive for the new coronavirus, royal officials confirmed Wednesday — touching off debate about whether his wealth and status gave him priority in receiving a test.

The 71-year-old is showing mild symptoms of COVID-19, the disease caused by the virus, and is self-isolating at a royal estate in Scotland, the prince's Clarence House office said. His wife, Camilla, the Duchess of Cornwall, has tested negative.

“The Prince of Wales has tested positive for Coronavirus," Clarence House said.
It said he “otherwise remains in good health and has been working from home throughout the last few days as usual.”

Britain’s Press Association, citing a source, said the prince and the 72-year-old duchess remained in good spirits, and that Charles was not bedridden.

The British government has advised people over age 70 to take social distancing measures especially seriously and warned they may need to stay home for 12 weeks.

For most people, the new coronavirus causes mild or moderate symptoms, such as fever and cough that clear up in two to three weeks. For some, especially older adults and people with existing health problems, it can be more severe, causing pneumonia and sometimes death.

Charles is the latest high-profile figure to reveal a COVID-19 diagnosis. He joins a growing list of celebrities, athletes and other famous people who been tested for the novel coronavirus, even when they didn’t have a fever or other severe tell-tale symptoms.

That has fueled the perception that the wealthy and famous have been able to jump to the head of the line to get tested while others have been turned away or met with long delays.

Scientists, public health and frontline medical staff officials have urged Britain to ramp up the number of people being tested for the virus. Currently the vast majority of people with mild symptoms are not being tested.

The government says it tested 6,491 people on Tuesday and hopes to increase that to 25,000 tests a day within three weeks.

A member of the Scottish Parliament, Joan McAlpine, expressed surprise that Charles was tested. McAlpine, a legislator with Scotland's governing Scottish National Party wished Charles a speedy recovery, but wondered aloud whether he had received special treatment.

“Given that his symptoms are said to be mild, like many I wonder how he was tested when many NHS and social care workers cannot get tested,’’ she said on Twitter. “My nephew, who has serious asthma and a chest infection was recently refused a test.’’

Charles and Camilla's tests were carried out by the National Health Service in Scotland. Its website says that in general people will be tested if they “have a serious illness that requires admission to hospital.’’

Scotland's Chief Medical Officer Catherine Calderwood defended the test.

"From the information I've been given it's clear he was tested for clinical reasons,’’ she said. “And I'm pleased also that he is well and as with many people who have had this virus he has had a mild illness."

Charles and other senior royals kept up a busy schedule of engagements until earlier this month, when they cut off public events as the coronavirus outbreak intensified.

Buckingham Palace said Queen Elizabeth II, 93, remains at her Windsor Castle home west of London with her 98-year-old husband, Prince Philip.

“Her Majesty the queen remains in good health,’’ the palace said, adding that the queen last saw Charles briefly at an event on March 12 and "is following all the appropriate advice with regard to her welfare.”

Philip was not with the monarch when she last saw Charles, the oldest of their four children.

Clarence House said it was “not possible to ascertain from whom the prince caught the virus owing to the high number of engagements he carried out in his public role during recent weeks."

Charles’ last public engagement was March 12. He has also had a number of private meetings, and participants at those sessions have been made aware of his condition.

Charles attended a March 11 awards ceremony for his Prince's Trust charity alongside celebrities including actor Pierce Brosnan and Ronnie Wood of the Rolling Stones.

Charles attended a round table meeting on March 10 with Monaco’s Prince Albert II, who has since tested positive for COVID-19. The British royal is not believed to have shaken hands with Albert at the WaterAid Summit in London on that day.

Charles has been photographed doing the namaste gesture, with hands pressed together, at public events in recent weeks, including the Commonwealth Day Service on March 9 at Westminster Abbey. The event was the last formal engagement of Prince Harry and his wife, Meghan.

Charles has spoken to both his sons: Prince William, who is second in line to the throne, and Prince Harry, who is in Canada.

On March 3, before governments around the world started to join China in implementing sweeping curbs on public activities to counter the COVID-19 outbreak, William joked about the virus during an official visit to Ireland with his wife, Catherine, the Duchess of Cambridge.

“I bet everyone's like, 'I've got coronavirus, I'm dying' and you're like, 'No, you've just got a cough',” he told emergency workers at a reception hosted by Britain's Ambassador to Ireland in Dublin's Guinness Storehouse. “It does seem quite dramatic about the coronavirus. Is it being a little hyped-up in the media?”

With hindsight, William may regret his remarks in Ireland, including what he said next: that he and his wife “are spreading the coronavirus” even more.
 

Esto Perpetua

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Gov. Newsom Signs Order to Extend Deadlines for Presidential Primary Ballot Counting, Expand Vote-by-Mail Options

What could possibly go wrong?

By Katy Grimes, March 21, 2020 7:46 am

California Governor Gavin Newsom issued an executive order Friday to permit vote-by-mail procedures to be used in three upcoming special elections, “protecting public health and safety during the COVID-19 outbreak.”

Newsom’s order also allows the Presidential Primary ballot counting to continue beyond the April 10 deadline, “reporting of the official canvas results remain outstanding and ongoing.”

California’s Secretary of State Alex Padilla announced on March 3, Primary Election Day, “State law gives county elections officials up to 30 days after Election Day to complete vote counting, auditing, and certification. I will certify the statewide results on Friday, April 10th. April 10th is well before the end of the national primary schedule and well before the political parties‘ nominating conventions.”

According to his press statement and order, “the governor’s order also extends the deadlines for ballot counting, tabulation, and other responsibilities related to the official canvass of California’s Presidential Primary Election that could risk undermining social distancing measures, and suspends the timeframes for public hearings required by political subdivisions that are in the process of changing from an at-large method of election to district elections.”

A copy of the Governor’s executive order can be found here. What could possibly go wrong?
They're gonna cheat like a soap opera villain!
 

marsh

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Loungewear sales soar in coronavirus quarantine
Sales for sweatpants and leggings are up as more Americans work from home with the spread of coronavirus

By Jeanette SettembreFOXBusiness

How will coronavirus impact retail sales?

Strategic Resource Group Managing Director Burt Flickinger discusses the state of retail as coronavirus concerns continue.

Business casual is a stretch.

Work attire has become loose-fitting loungewear, leggings and stretchy pants cinched with elastic waistlines as more Americans seek out cozy clothing in which to work from home during self-quarantine due to the coronavirus pandemic.

Retailers like Gap and sister company Athleta have seen an increase in online sales for comfortable clothing styles in recent weeks.

“Loungewear is outpacing other styles currently,” a spokesperson for Gap told FOX Business on Tuesday, adding that the top three best-selling styles from GapBody online are women’s joggers, wide-legged pants and leggings.

“We are seeing that the common thread between these silhouettes is the super-soft, jersey knit fabrication, Modal. For men’s lounge, we are seeing great success within our jersey pant program and our Vintage sweats assortment,” the spokesperson added.

As retailers remain closed amid the coronavirus outbreak, some have experienced a surge in demand for athleisure wear. The number of sold-out tracksuits rose from 36 percent from Jan. 1 through March 16, compared with the same time period a year ago, the Wall Street Journal reported, citing data from Edited, which tracks more than two billion items on retailer websites in the U.S. and U.K.
The number of sold-out sweatpants, meanwhile, is up 39 percent and the number of bathrobes that are out of stock went up 29 percent, according to the Journal.

Athleta, which sells women’s activewear, has also seen an uptick in consumers shopping for athleisure wear.

“We have seen our customers looking for more ‘work from home’ styles," Sarah Wallis, Athleta vice president and general manager of e-commerce, said in an email. "We’ve specifically seen a rise in popularity among a handful of our jogger styles that provide her with a polished look, while still getting the comfort and stretch that she expects when looking for relaxed loungewear that she can wear at home.”

And shoppers aren’t just splurging on basic black leggings. Wallis says there’s been a surge for orders for printed styles like a camo-print jogger.

And while customers flock to Reese Witherspoon's brick-and-mortar Nashville-based clothing store destination Draper James when it's open for business, the clothing company says it saw a 1,255 percent increase in loungewear unit sales online, in addition to its polished yet comfortable crewneck gingham sweatshirt between the week of March 8 and the week of March 15.

Some legging retailers like Girlfriend Collective are pushing promotions that offer customers the option to try on styles for free for up to 30 days and then return them if they’re not satisfied.

Seattle-based Sam Parker Storino, 29, said she wanted something comfortable and practical to wear around her house and to walk her dog while self quarantining, so she invested around $120 for two new pairs of high-rise leggings from the brand in bright colors like orange and blue.

"It's nice to wear something comfortable and not feel like a bum. Not that anyone will see me," she quipped.
 

MinnesotaSmith

Membership Revoked
That's repulsive Matt. I've worked with many very good hearted, fine, upstanding, honorable Native Americans in this state. In 30myears of healthcare I've seen just as many white people as any other race with alcoholism issues. All you just showed was your ignorance.

The direction of ignorance in that conversation:
From Liberalpedia, a bastion of PC :


"A survey of death certificates from 2006-2010 showed that deaths among Native Americans due to alcohol are about four times as common as in the general US population"

"In some tribes, the rate of fetal alcohol spectrum disorder is as high as 1.5 to 2.5 per 1000 live births, more than seven times the national average"

"Native American and Native Alaskan youth are far more likely to experiment with alcohol at a younger age than non-Native youth."

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""rates of diabetes and its complications…are substantially higher among Native Americans than among the US general population, and the frequency of diabetes among Native Americans is increasing."[13] This increase is proposed to be based upon, as the same study states, "several potentially modifiable factors, including obesity, dietary composition, and physical inactivity."[13] It is estimated that diabetes afflicts 40%-50% of adults in Native American communities,[14] compared with the national average of around 8%."

"Native American women have the highest rates of violent crime victimization, more than double that of other racial groups.[51] In the violent acts committed against Native women, Native American women are more likely to have injuries that require medical attention than crimes committed against other races. They are also more likely to face an armed assailant than female victims of violent acts of other races.[52] On a number of Native American reservations Native Women are murdered at a rate representing ten times the national average. Violent crime rates over all on Native American reservations are 2.5 times the national average while some individual reservations reach 20 times the national average of violent crime"
 
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AlaskaSue

North to the Future
HUGE jump in numbers up here today...went from 42 last night to 59 today, including the first in Homer and some new ones out at JBER (Joint Base Elmendorf & Richardson). Looks like most are still travel related, some under investigation still, some from close contact. One in state is in critical. The big jump is concerning...we'd been seeing onesy, twosy, now today 17 new ones. Anchorage, Kodiak, Juneau still only ones in 'hunker-down' meaning non-essential businesses and travel to close/stop.
Tomorrow my youngest turns 42...and his state shuts down as he's trying to move to another state. 70% Alaska Airlines flights are cancelled. God be with us.
 

Ragnarok

On and On, South of Heaven
It's also clear that various reports have indicated that Medical Organizations have prioritized their patients 'feelings' over the safety of their workers, (blocking the use of PPE which might 'upset' patients) which is simply insane. So med pros are trying to protect themselves? More power to 'em.

It's not just the medical organizations that are doing this! My employer does the same type of thing but I need my job so won't expand any further on that...
 

marsh

On TB every waking moment

Food-Security Fears Spark Panic-Hoarding, Could Drive Inflation Sky-High

Wed, 03/25/2020 - 21:30

A senior economist from the United Nation's (UN) Food and Agriculture Organization (FAO) told Reuters that food inflation could be imminent as people and governments panic hoard food and supplies amid the COVID-19 pandemic.
"All you need is panic buying from big importers such as millers or governments to create a crisis," said Abdolreza Abbassian, senior economist at FAO.
"It is not a supply issue, but it is a behavioral change over food security," Abbassian said. "What if bulk buyers think they can't get wheat or rice shipments in May or June? That is what could lead to a global food supply crisis."
Consumers from Asia to Europe to the Americas have been panic hoarding food at supermarkets as governments enforce strict social distancing measures to flatten pandemic curves to slowdown infections.

Grain futures are green on Monday morning, have caught a bid in the last several sessions, led by soybean, oats, and wheat. Investors are starting to pile into grains as the demand for food staples (especially bread, flour, pasta, and crackers) has been elevated.



France's grain industry has seen surging demand and struggles to find enough truck operators and staff to keep factories running as panic buying of flour and pasta has led to an increase in wheat exports.

European countries have enforced strict measures at their boarders amid the virus crisis that is devastating Italy, Spain, Germany, France, Switzerland, and the UK. This has led to food supply disruption across several European countries.

Inflationary pressures could be nearing for food prices as the stockpiling continues. Combine this with a crashing global economy and high unemployment, and maybe stagflation is ahead.

Here's what Daniel Lacalle, chief economist at the wealth management firm Tressis Gestion, recently said about the threat of stagflation:
"It is very likely that the shutdown of major developed economies will be followed by a shutdown of emerging markets, creating a supply shock as we have not seen in decades. Taking massive inflationary and demand-driven measures in a supply shock is not only a mistake, it is the recipe for stagflation and guarantees a multi-year negative impact generated by rising debt, weakening productivity, rising inflation in nonreplicable goods while deflation creeps into official headlines, and economic stagnation."
Could surging food prices, a crashing global economy, and high unemployment be the catalysts for what unleashes riots across the Western world?
 

Blacknarwhal

Let's Go Brandon!
Los Angeles Mayor Eric Garcetti warns of mass death, condemns 'false hope,' and tells us his city will be on lockdown for another 2 months — and to 'be prepared for longer'

Yeah, don't look for that to happen, Garcetti, you PUSTULE of a human being. It is most assuredly NOT "your city" either, regardless of what your insane power fantasies tell you.

Here's a shot of what Garcetti no doubt believes is "false hope." You can just imagine how hard they had to choke on this one.

Fair use cited so on and so forth.

Apologies, folks; put up the wrong one. Caught this on the Dan Bongino show tonight; it's a paywalled article from the Wall Street Journal that should have gone up. Basically, it's a matter of math; the only people who showed up for testing were the ones who were the sickest.


The relevant part from Dan is about 40 minutes in.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50kZ4vi2LU4
 
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Krayola

Veteran Member
We are going to be working through many, many issues regarding the response to this crisis; seems pretty clear to me, and a few others, that protecting the people who can save other's lives may be a reasonable trade off.

If we were at war, and there was a limited supply of a prophylactic treatment for disease, would you be willing to treat the troops before citizens?
I think most reasonable people would understand doctors wanting to reserve some of this (reportedly) life-saving medicine for the medical folks on the front lines. One reason this has such bad optics is that the doctors are also writing prescriptions for other folks (not patients) that are not in the medical field/working on the front lines and who are currently not sick.
 
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MinnesotaSmith

Membership Revoked

Doctor: I treated 350 coronavirus patients with 100% success
'The biggest game changer of all'
WND Staff
By WND Staff
Published March 24, 2020

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A physician in New York state claims he has used the anti-malaria drug hydroxychloroquine and zinc to treat 350 patients for COVID-19 with 100 percent success.



In a video posted on YouTube, Dr. Vladimir Zelenko said he saw the symptom of shortness of breath resolved within four to six hours, the Gateway Pundit blog reported.

Zelenko, addressing his message to President Trump, said he's a board-certified family practioner in the community of Kiryas Joel in Orange County, New York, in the Hudson Valley, about 50 miles north of New York City.

"I'm seeing a tremendous outbreak in this community," he said. "My estimate is more than 60% currently have the infection.

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"That's based on the percentage of the tests that I'm getting back already," Zelenko explained. "That's probably around 20,000 people, probably more."

See Dr. Zelenko's video:





At a Fox News "virtual townhall" Tuesday in the Rose Garden, Vice President Mike Pence was asked by Dr. Mehmet Oz, the popular TV doctor, how the distribution of the hydroxychloroquine treatment can be accelerated.

Pence said "there is no barrier," explaining the FDA already has approved "off-label" use, meaning the drug used to treat malaria also can be prescribed to treat COVID-19.

The vice president said the administration is working with Bayer on increasing the supply of the drug at the same time clinical trials are being conducted.

"Doctors can prescribe that medication, which, as you know, is a perfectly legal malaria medication," Pence said.



Oz asked Pence if he would allow himself to be treated with hydroxychloroquine if he were infected with the coronavirus.

"I would follow the advice of my physician, and I would recommend everyone do that," the vice president replied.

'Game changer'

Oz has called chloroquine "the biggest game changer of all," with the potential of preventing the U.S. from "becoming Italy."



President Trump announced Monday that clinical trials for chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine will begin in New York on Tuesday. He said 10,000 units of chloroquine will be distributed in the state.

Studies in China, Australia and France have found the combination of chloroquine and zithromycin treated the coronavirus within six days with a 100% success rate.

In an interview with Fox News' Sean Hannity on Monday night, Dr. Peter Costantino, the chairman of Otolaryngology-Head and Neck Surgery at Lenox Hill Hospital in New York City, was asked to comment on Dr. Zelenko's reported results.

"I'm very, very optimistic about this," he said. "This is not a controlled study, but the number of patients represented by Dr. Zelenko is very significant."



Costantino noted there were no hospitilizations, intubations or deaths among Zelenko's 350 patients. As many as 40 hospitalizations would have been expected, he said, along with possibly two or three deaths.

See the interview with Sean Hannity:


View: https://youtu.be/hPPkhmPOwi0
 
All Mormon temples are closing worldwide

A closed sign is shown at The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints Bountiful Temple Tuesday, March 24, in Bountiful, Utah.
A closed sign is shown at The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints Bountiful Temple Tuesday, March 24, in Bountiful, Utah. Rick Bowmer/AP

All Mormon temples worldwide are closing due to the coronavirus pandemic.

The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, informally known as the Mormon Church, announced the closures in a statement on Wednesday.

"After careful and prayerful consideration, and with a desire to be responsible global citizens, we have decided to suspend all temple activity Churchwide at the end of the day on March 25, 2020. This is a temporary adjustment, and we look forward to the day when the temples will reopen," the statement said.

"Please be assured of our sincere love and appreciation for your devotion and faith."

The church is based in the United States, but has 16.3 members worldwide, according to its website.


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naturallysweet

Has No Life - Lives on TB
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Shrug. Their land, their people.
Find your tribe.
It's serious racism and Indian supremacy, to say that a bum on the street has more right to this country based on his ethnicity. Either we are all Americans, or we all get to have our own tribes.

Then the Indians lose again!!

Time to stop picking fights and expect to win with sjw racist pity. I'm all out of feels.
 

Heliobas Disciple

TB Fanatic
Husbands company has 30-something factories in China. Most had re-opened at limited capacity as of a couple weeks ago. Even the WUHAN/Hubei factories. Now a few have shut back down again, reports of many getting sick again, including one of companies Chinese directors in Tianjin.. (instead of peasant at factory) so now it's serious :rolleyes:
A few Orders in USA staring to cancel now...
Thank you for the update and first hand reporting. If it's not too sensitive to reveal, can you tell us what sort of industry he works in - ie: computer tech, pharmaceutical, electronics, automotive... I'm just curious what sorts of industries are going to be having trouble filling the supply chain.
thanks!

HD
 

NCGirl

Veteran Member
Thank you for the update and first hand reporting. If it's not too sensitive to reveal, can you tell us what sort of industry he works in - ie: computer tech, pharmaceutical, electronics, automotive... I'm just curious what sorts of industries are going to be having trouble filling the supply chain.
thanks!

HD
Via PM yes...
 
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