CORONA Main Coronavirus thread

Ragnarok said:

I have speculated that this virus may be being used by the government to tighten their grip on power.

After the protests in Hong Kong, there were some within mainland China, coincidentally enough, they were centered in Wuhan. Now, I have read 100% of the organizers of the protest and many of those who participated have all been "quarantined".

Stalin and Mao killed tens of millions of their own people to retain power... Why do we think Xi may not be capable of the same?

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bev said:

Can we all just move on from the discussion of writing styles, please? As far as I know, I’m the one who posted about it here first, so I’m requesting that we all get back on topic. Old Archer and I are good.

Thank you. Carry on.

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Shooter said:

yea. Im 12 miles north of Ashland, I havnt heard where the peope there are from? are they from Nebraska? Or other states,

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Craftypatches said:

Just listened to the local news on tv. They said the quarantined people in Camp Ashland were riding to the U S with the person who has it at the Texas Base, forgot what that one is called. Anyway they said the people are scheduled at Camp Ashland to be released in 6 days! I would hope they don’t release them if they were riding with the other person!

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Shooter said:

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yea. Im 12 miles north of Ashland, I havnt heard where the peope there are from? are they from Nebraska? Or other states,

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I have not heard where they are from either!

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littlechasingbear said:

According to reports, this thing has an HIV sequence imputed into it, so if one gets infected with this virus, and survives, do they end up with HIV for the rest of their lives? Apologies if this question has already been asked and answered. It’s hard to keep up with all the info. Thanks.

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rondaben said:

No. It is not even infused. The proteins in the envelope were believed to possible form a functional attachment to CD-4 Cells (T-lymphocytes) allowing the virus to essentially attack them like they do the lungs. This was only believed to be the case when protein folding models were run. There is a component of lymphopenia in patients so there may be some effect but it should resolve when the virus is cleared.

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It’s probably nothing #2: CORONAVIRUS – Chinese doors are being welded shut for quarantine

Don’t panic but be the kind of frood who always knows where his towel is.[See below page break to review the uses of the universal tool that is the humble towel.] Via Raconteur Report: Nothing To See Here Rule in the Time of Coronavirus AKA Springtime for Hitler Xi Jinping may also be thinking of

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Xi Jinping may also be thinking of it as an opportunity. Remember that Xi is part of political party that killed an estimated 65 million of its own people, and was happy to put a couple of million Uighers in concentration camps in order to reeducate them about their racial inferiority to the Chinese. They had to hold off tiananmening a few thousand Hong Kong activists only because too much of the world was watching and too much money is at stake.
But now? Now they’ve got tens of millions of people under quarantine, they’re reportedly burning thousands of bodies that died from the virus without reporting them, so many that they’re showing up on satellite photos mapping particulates. With the quarantine and even heavier than usual censorship, the communist government has ideal circumstances for score-settling and purging “subversive” elements.

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Imagine how many activists and “agitators” they can make disappear in that chaos, not to mention people with low “social creditâ” scores. And the need to cremate bodies quickly means no one needs ever know that their actual cause of death was acute lead poisoning. The plague ensures it will be a while before their relatives come looking for them. Maybe they can’t get away with it in Hong Kong, but they can certainly get away with it in the “hot zone.”

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Shooter said:

I think a large factor on how bad it gets in the U.S. will be if the power stays on,

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Countrymouse said:

So---let me get this straight.

We have a member who claims to be a horse. (but that's ok--I like horses)

We have members who do their best to live up to their on-screen names and "snipe" at everyone. (and that's ok--that's their privilege)

We have "panic-sex" members (and I LOVE it, Helen!)

We have MANY members--of all KINDS of persuasions--who think the rest of us are going to hell. (and all of whom will be sources of great amusement to the rest of us in heaven when they find the rest of us there)

.....and we can't tolerate someone who'd decided to adopt a new on-screen persona somewhere between Jed Clampett, Uncle Joe (Petticoat Junction), and Grandpa Walton?

.....

REALLY, folks?

The world may well be entering its darkest days.

I, for one, appreciate the slightly humorous distraction of "folksy" words of wisdom.


Can we lighten up and just accept each other--each with our own weirdnesses?

To me, that's what makes this place great, and all of us a FAMILY.


After all, it's not THAT hard to just shake your head and move on to the NEXT post, if it's that aggravating to you.

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• Hubei province, China: The numbers include clinically-diagnosed cases, which means they were not confirmed by laboratory testing.
• Japan: The total includes 4 asymptomatic cases, which are not included in the government’s official count.
• Japan: The total includes 218 people from the “Diamond Princess” cruise ship. They are not included in the government’s official count.
• North Korea: Unconfirmed reports about 1, 5, or 7 cases in North Korea cannot be verified. If cases are confirmed by the North Korean government, they will be added to this list.

The resident of the southwestern city of Chongqing planned a birthday banquet for more than ten tables of guests on Jan. 28, the state-run agency said on Wednesday, but local officials battling the outbreak asked him to cancel the plan.

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But on Jan. 26, after the man failed to convince them to let the party go ahead, he wrapped firecrackers round his waist, poured gasoline on his chest and held up a lighter, trying to threaten them into agreeing.

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“The actions prevented town and village cadres from carrying out epidemic prevention and control work,” Xinhua said, adding that 10 patients visiting a clinic on a lower level of the same building had also been affected.
It was not immediately clear what kind of penalties the man would face if convicted.

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Craftypatches said:

Call me weird but I found his writing style interesting! Especially about the snake, it made me think deeper!

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• 03:25: China’s National Health Commission reports 267 new cases and 5 new deaths on the mainland, excluding Hubei province. Hubei Province deducted 108 prior deaths from the death toll due to double counting. (Source)
• 00:43: 1 new case in Japan. (Source)

• 23:45: 4,823 new cases and 116 new deaths in Hubei province, China. 1,043 cases which were previously reported were deducted from the government’s figures. (Source)
• 14:50: 3 new cases in Hong Kong. (Source)
• 15:10: 1 new case in the United States. First in Texas. (Source)
• 12:40: 1 new case in Japan. (Source)
• 11:55: 1 new case, a fatality, in Japan. This is the first death in Japan. (Source 1)
• 11:36: 8 new cases in Singapore. (Source)
• 11:15: 1 new case in Japan. (Source)
• 10:13: 1 new case in Malaysia. (Source)
• 09:05: 1 new case in Japan. (Source)
• 08:15: China’s National Health Commission reports 312 new cases and 12 new deaths on the mainland, excluding Hubei province. (Source)
• 05:15: 1 new case in Vietnam. (Source)
• 03:10: 44 new cases in Japan. They were found on the “Diamond Princess” cruise ship off Yokohama, raising the ship’s total to 218. (Source)
• 00:25: 1 new case in California, United States. (Source)

• 23:48: 14,840 new cases, including clinically diagnosed cases, and 242 new deaths in Hubei province, China. (Source)
• 18:53: 1 new case in the United Kingdom. (Source)
• 08:24: 1 new case in Hong Kong. (Source)
• 07:00: 3 new cases in Singapore. (Source)
• 02:53: 1 new case in Japan. It is one of the quarantine officers who was working on board the “Diamond Princess” cruise ship off Yokohama. This case is not included in the total for the ship’s passengers and crew. (Source)
• 02:14: China’s National Health Commission reports 377 new cases and 3 new deaths across the mainland, excluding Hubei province. The deaths were in Henan province, Hunan province, and Chongqing. (Source)

• 23:55: 39 new cases in Japan. They were found on the “Diamond Princess” cruise ship off Yokohama, raising the ship’s total to 174. (Source)
• 22:17: 1,638 new cases and 94 new deaths in Hubei province, China. (Source)
• 21:01: 1 new case in Thailand. (Source)
• 19:25: 2 new cases in Germany. (Source)
• 16:10: 7 new cases in Hong Kong. (Source)
• 14:59: 2 new cases in Singapore. (Source)
• 06:57: 2 new cases in Japan. (Source)
• 02:37: 1 new case in Vietnam. (Source)
• 01:14: 1 new case in California, United States. (Source)
• 01:00: 1 new case in South Korea. (Source)
• 00:13: China’s National Health Commission reports 370 new cases and 5 new deaths on the mainland. Of the deaths, one each in: Beijing, Tianjin, Heilongjiang province, Anhui province, and Henan province. (Source)

• 22:10: 2,097 new cases and 103 new deaths in Hubei province, China. (Source)
• 17:56: 1 new case in the United Arab Emirates. (Source)
• 16:00: 4 new cases in Hong Kong. (Source)
• 14:20: 2 new cases in Hong Kong. (Source)
• 12:30: 2 new cases in Singapore. (Source)
• 09:46: 4 new cases in the United Kingdom. (Source)
• 05:13: 65 new cases in Japan. They were found on the “Diamond Princess” cruise ship off Yokohama, raising the ship’s total to 135. (Source)
• 01:01: 1 new case in Malaysia. (Source)

• 23:53: China’s National Health Commission reports 419 new cases and 6 new deaths. Their locations have not yet been disclosed, except for the fatalities: 2 in Anhui province and 1 each in Anhui, Heilongjiang, Jiangxi, Hainan, and Gansu provinces. (Source)
• 22:15: 2,531 new cases and 91 new deaths in Hubei province, China. (Source)
• 19:01: 3 new cases in Singapore. (Source)
• 19:00: 7 new cases in Hong Kong. The other new cases mentioned in the press release were previously reported. (Source)
• 11:56: 3 new cases in Hong Kong. (Source)
• 11:40: 1 new case in the United Kingdom. (Source)
• 09:28: 1 new case in Spain. (Source)
• 08:06: 1 new case in Malaysia. (Source)
• 08:02: 2 new cases in South Korea. (Source)
• 07:45: 9 new cases in Shandong province, China. (Source)
• 07:44: 1 new case om Yunnan province, China. (Source)
• 07:18: 6 new cases in Japan. They were found on the “Diamond Princess” cruise ship off Yokohama, raising the ship’s total to 70. (Source)
• 06:26: 1 new case in Taiwan. (Source)
• 06:19: 1 new case in Vietnam. (Source)
• 05:00: 2 new cases in Tianjin, China. (Source)
• 03:33: 1 new case in Shanghai. (Source)
• 03:25: 11 new cases in Beijing. (Source)
• 03:19: 11 new cases in Fujian province, China. (Source)
• 03:06: 1 new case in Japan. (Source)
• 02:07: 13 new cases in Shaanxi province, China. (Source)
• 02:04: 2 new cases in Inner Mongolia Autonomous Region, China. (Source)
• 01:55: 19 new cases in Shandong province, China. (Source)
• 01:26: 25 new cases in Guangdong province, China. The other cases mentioned in the press release were previously reported. (Source)
• 01:25: 4 new cases in Hainan province, China. The other case mentioned in the press release was previously reported. (Source)
• 01:22: 42 new cases in Jiangxi province, China. (Source)
• 01:07: 3 new cases in Xinjiang Region, China. (Source)
• 01:05: 46 new cases and 1 new death in Anhui province, China. The death was previously announced by China’s National Health Commission. (Source)
• 01:02: 1 new case in South Korea. (Source)
• 01:00: 27 new cases in Zhejiang province, China. (Source)
• 00:45: 7 new cases in Guizhou province, China. (Source)
• 00:44: 29 new cases in Jiangsu province, China. (Source)
• 00:36: 35 new cases in Hunan province, China. (Source)
• 00:41: 53 new cases and 2 new deaths in Henan province, China. One previous case was discarded. The deaths were previously reported by China’s National Health Commission. (Source)
• 00:33: 23 new cases in Sichuan province, China. (Source)
• 00:25: 26 new cases and 1 new death in Heilongjiang province, China. One previous case was discarded and 13 asymptomatic cases were deducted from the government’s official count. Those 13, however, are still included in our total. The death was previously reported by China’s National Health Commission. (Source)
• 00:20: 12 new cases and 1 new death in Guangxi Zhuang Autonomous Region, China. The death was previously reported by China’s National Health Commission. (Source)
• 00:18: 9 new cases in Jilin province, China. (Source)
• 00:17: 2 new cases in Yunnan province, China. (Source)
• 00:16: 11 new cases and 1 new death in Hebei province, China. The death was previously reported by China’s National Health Commission. (Source)
• 00:15: China’s National Health Commission reports 441 new cases and 7 new deaths across the mainland. Their locations have not yet been disclosed, except for the fatalities: 2 in Henan province, 1 in Hebei province, 1 in Heilongjiang province, 1 in Anhui province, 1 in Shandong province, and 1 in Guangxi Zhuang Autonomous Region. (Source)

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jward said:

Seems about the only tool we have right now... it's the swamping and bottle necks that scare me: people can rise to amazing heights, when needed. but ya simply can't pull vents outta yer arse.

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Ractivist said:

I've not seen any discussion about re-aquiring the virus. Say you get it, you have medical assistance and you beat it. Have you now built resistance? Or are you fresh meat as soon as you walk out the door. How often can you catch it?

Be a son of a gun if this thing just hung around the hood, going back and forth, till it gotcha.

How's that work? Do we have a viable idea, or do we wait and see? Will China fill in this blank?

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goosebeans said:

Thanks for the report, summerthyme, Hubby had to go somewhere today, he stopped at a Walmart in Fairlawn, VA. He said there was a huge display of elderberry products right in the middle of the store. Added more to the prepps.

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rondaben said:

There isn't a lot of study on this with Covid-19 but they did have some studies for SARS. I would imagine the pathology would be the same.

What was found was that it was what I would call "shock kidneys". With this virus you get a progressive shortness of breath over the first week to 10 days of symptoms (average, some earlier--some later). As PO2 (the blood gas value--for home use lets talk about it as the pulse-ox reading) drops, less oxygen is able to cross the damaged alveoli into the blood. This causes hypoxia. The lack of oxygen begins to damage all of the organs. It is made worse by the body's attempts to shunt blood flow to the heart and brain as they are the most sensitive to hypoxia. The liver, kidneys, bowels, etc. become ischemic. Without oxygen the body reverts to the production of lactic acid for its energy need instead of aerobic respiration. Blood pH drops, the patient becomes acidotic and without correction will die.

Often times at this point steroids may be a last-ditch effort to help. We would be pushing IV fluids, pressors like epinephrine or dopamine to keep blood pressure up to protect the organs. The patient would be definitely intubated or, if needed and available, placed on ECMO.

Now, lets focus on the kidney problem. When it doesn't get enough oxygen the cells in the renal tubules begin to die. These cells are what line the nephron and help to control the excretion of waste and reabsorbtion of things you don't want to lose. They will die and sluough off into the urine. This is called Acute Tubular Necrosis. A good marker for this is urine output. If it falls below about 400ml in a 24hr period the patient will need dialysis. Because the cells are dead/dying/sloughing off protein--something your body wants to readsorb--spills out into the urine. This is a tell tell sign of damage to the kidney. It can take several weeks for the kidneys to begin to heal and there will likely be some degree of permanent impairment from the injury. In SARS the involvment was a HUGE marker in the severity of the disease. Of those that got an acute kidney injury 92% died vs. 8% who died without kidney injury. Thus it is important to keep the organs well perfused to improve survival. IV fluids for blood pressure, supplemental oxygen for hypoxemia are critical supportive measures.

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Trivium Pursuit said:

Would the standard banana bag of the ED be helpful here?

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northern watch said:

Coronavirus Outbreak Slams Iran's Embattled Economy; Demand from Beijing, one of Tehran's last crude-oil customers, drops amid chaos of health crisis

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northern watch said:

Ezekiel‏ @EzekielJoe144 3h3 hours ago

#Breaking: #China’s National Health Commission reports roughly HALF A MILLION citizens have had close contact with confirmed cases of #coronavirus! Considering the massive transmission rates of this beast, China hasn’t seen ANYTHING YET... #COVID19

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bluelady said:

I've got Sambucol (and other items) on Subscribe & Save from Amazon now; it's about $3 cheaper that way than what I just grab at Walmart.

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Global Times‏Verified account @globaltimesnews 3h3 hours ago

#Shanghai has prevented 3,251 passengers in 1,781 vehicles from entering the city in the past 3 days. People without jobs or fixed residences in Shanghai are not allowed to enter amid the #COVID19 outbreak: local traffic police

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Ractivist said:

I've not seen any discussion about re-aquiring the virus. Say you get it, you have medical assistance and you beat it. Have you now built resistance? Or are you fresh meat as soon as you walk out the door. How often can you catch it?

Be a son of a gun if this thing just hung around the hood, going back and forth, till it gotcha.

How's that work? Do we have a viable idea, or do we wait and see? Will China fill in this blank?

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