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ainitfunny

ainitfunny

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Well folks, the rest of the world is 60 days behind China, what you see happening there RIGHT NOW will be happening in our FIRST WORLD nations in 60 days.

It DOES NOT MATTER how great a medical care system your nation has, just the same as it doesn’t matter how expensive a boat or airplane you have, it will sink to the bottom, or crash and burn WHEN IT IS OVERLOADED!

The smartest thing our nation could do is REMOVE (DRAFT) a thousand younger (30-42yo) doctors and nurses RIGHT NOW, Put them in quarantine for 3 weeks and then those who still test negative PUT IN SEPARATE GOVT BOMB SHELTERS TILL THIS EPIDEMIC BURNS ITSELF OUT. (or a vaccine is developed that works)

We will NOT Have enough SURVIVING medical personnel to restore even basic medical services in each state IF WE DON’T plan ahead! 26 year old doctors NOW, in China, are dropping DEAD FROM EXHAUSTION and overwork! We are 60 days away from that.

BTW- There is already a federal law authorizing that, which was passed probably 20 years ago.
 
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Dozdoats

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Re. the video in #8597, that's several months old. I'll see if I can find when it was first posted - but it predates the current pandemic.

ETA - Pigs Burned Alive in China: How Farms are Killing Pigs in China (Video)

/snip/This new video of pigs being burned alive was filmed in China in December 2018./snip/

More text plus video at the link. This was from the African Swine Fever outbreak ...
 
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rondaben

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ainitfunny said:
You got it BACKWARDS, if blood pressure gets dangerously LOW, not high, smoke a cigarette.
But, you will probably be out cold if it gets that low anyway, so nevermind, you won’t be lucid enuff to smoke a cigarette, unless you act before it drops too low.
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That is correct.

Also, you will be hypoxic. You don't need to put more CO2 into your lungs, you need more oxygen. Cigarettes will make it significantly worse.
 
naegling62

naegling62

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ainitfunny said:
Well folks, the rest of the world is 60 days behind China, what you see happening there RIGHT NOW will be happening FIRST WORLD nations in 60 days.

It DOES NOT MATTER how great a medical care system your nation has, just the same as it doesn’t matter how expensive a boat or airplane you have, it will sink to the bottom, or crash and burn WHEN IT IS OVERLOADED!

The smartest thing our nation could do is REMOVE (DRAFT) a thousand younger (30-42yo) doctors and nurses RIGHT NOW, Put them in quarantine for 3 weeks and then those who still test negative PUT IN SEPARATE GOVT BOMB SHELTERS TILL THIS EPIDEMIC BURNS ITSELF OUT. (or a vaccine is developed that works)

We will NOT Have enough SURVIVING medical personnel to restore even basic medical services in each state IF WE DON’T plan ahead! 26 year old doctors NOW, in China, are dropping DEAD FROM EXHAUSTION and overwork! We are 60 days away from that.

BTW- There is already a federal law authorizing that, which was passed probably 20 years ago.
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I'm on your side of the issue, but I think there are a few differences between the West and China.

1). They were the original point of contact. I would imagine to have the numbers they have(unofficial), there would have been a mass release of the bioweapon.

2). The West isn't going to make matters worse in country by covering up the data.

3). The West has started quarantines quicker.

4). The West has better hygiene, facilities and training.

5). We are not point of contact but secondary contact, big difference.
 
wlf0wtr

wlf0wtr

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Another in Ohio being tested. This one they're refusing to tell who or even where in Ohio.


COLUMBUS, Ohio—As another person in Ohio is being tested for coronavirus, state health officials are being more tight-lipped about details than they were about the first suspected cases.

On Wednesday, the Ohio Department of Health announced that a person in Ohio has been tested for the virus, which has so far killed about 500 people and infected 24,000 – mostly in China, where the outbreak began. The state health department said no additional information – including the person’s name or location – will be released until the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention determines whether or not the person has the virus.

That’s in contrast to last week, when, following initial news reports, state health officials held a news conference, as well as conference calls with local health officials around the state, to provide details about two Miami University students who were tested after returning from China with flu-like symptoms. Both students ended up testing negative for coronavirus. Ohio has not had any confirmed cases.

In addition to not releasing such information this time around to the media until the test results are in, the state health department has instructed local health officials this time around to neither confirm nor deny that the new suspected case is in their area, according to Adam Nation, a spokesman for the Cleveland Department of Public Health.

An Ohio Department of Health spokeswoman didn’t immediately return a phone call seeking comment on why the department clamped down on sharing information about the new potential case.

But Nation said it was because the state health department wants to avoid a repeat of last week, when the two Miami University students were subjected to heavy media attention even though they weren’t identified, and it turned out they didn’t have the coronavirus.

“They're worried about protecting the privacy of individuals,” Nation said. “And as with what they felt they saw in Butler County, they decided to change the way that they're instructing us to respond to these.”

Kevin Brennan, a spokesman for the Cuyahoga County Board of Health, confirmed that this new potential coronavirus case is not in Cuyahoga County. Asked if he knew where the new suspected case is, Brennan said his agency has not been told that information.

“It’s not like last week, when they were on statewide calls just talking about, whatever county they were in,” Brennan said.
 
naegling62

naegling62

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wlf0wtr said:
Another in Ohio being tested. This one they're refusing to tell who or even where in Ohio.


COLUMBUS, Ohio—As another person in Ohio is being tested for coronavirus, state health officials are being more tight-lipped about details than they were about the first suspected cases.

On Wednesday, the Ohio Department of Health announced that a person in Ohio has been tested for the virus, which has so far killed about 500 people and infected 24,000 – mostly in China, where the outbreak began. The state health department said no additional information – including the person’s name or location – will be released until the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention determines whether or not the person has the virus.

That’s in contrast to last week, when, following initial news reports, state health officials held a news conference, as well as conference calls with local health officials around the state, to provide details about two Miami University students who were tested after returning from China with flu-like symptoms. Both students ended up testing negative for coronavirus. Ohio has not had any confirmed cases.

In addition to not releasing such information this time around to the media until the test results are in, the state health department has instructed local health officials this time around to neither confirm nor deny that the new suspected case is in their area, according to Adam Nation, a spokesman for the Cleveland Department of Public Health.

An Ohio Department of Health spokeswoman didn’t immediately return a phone call seeking comment on why the department clamped down on sharing information about the new potential case.

But Nation said it was because the state health department wants to avoid a repeat of last week, when the two Miami University students were subjected to heavy media attention even though they weren’t identified, and it turned out they didn’t have the coronavirus.

“They're worried about protecting the privacy of individuals,” Nation said. “And as with what they felt they saw in Butler County, they decided to change the way that they're instructing us to respond to these.”

Kevin Brennan, a spokesman for the Cuyahoga County Board of Health, confirmed that this new potential coronavirus case is not in Cuyahoga County. Asked if he knew where the new suspected case is, Brennan said his agency has not been told that information.

“It’s not like last week, when they were on statewide calls just talking about, whatever county they were in,” Brennan said.
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In other words... it's a college student.
 
Ragnarok

Ragnarok

On and On, South of Heaven
jward said:
China taking on an even more reasonable tone...that's alarming, somehow. :eek:

China Daily
@ChinaDaily
17m

A Chinese envoy in New York said that all measures for curbing the novel #coronavirus being taken by various countries can be understood but "should be taken on scientific bases" and that those countries should "not overreact".
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When you quarantine tens of millions of people, shut down entire cities, arrest folks for not wearing masks or talking on-line about the virus, and execute those who attempt to break roadblocks...

... I would like to know this official's definition of "overreact"...
 
naturallysweet

naturallysweet

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Unless someone admitted to be in china in the last 2 weeks. Or being around a confirmed cases. The West refuses to test.

We may have thousands of cases before they admit there is an issue.


naegling62 said:
I'm on your side of the issue, but I think there are a few differences between the West and China.

1). They were the original point of contact. I would imagine to have the numbers they have(unofficial), there would have been a mass release of the bioweapon.

2). The West isn't going to make matters worse in country by covering up the data.

3). The West has started quarantines quicker.

4). The West has better hygiene, facilities and training.

5). We are not point of contact but secondary contact, big difference.
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Pinecone

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wlf0wtr said:
Another in Ohio being tested. This one they're refusing to tell who or even where in Ohio.


COLUMBUS, Ohio—As another person in Ohio is being tested for coronavirus, state health officials are being more tight-lipped about details than they were about the first suspected cases.

On Wednesday, the Ohio Department of Health announced that a person in Ohio has been tested for the virus, which has so far killed about 500 people and infected 24,000 – mostly in China, where the outbreak began. The state health department said no additional information – including the person’s name or location – will be released until the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention determines whether or not the person has the virus.

That’s in contrast to last week, when, following initial news reports, state health officials held a news conference, as well as conference calls with local health officials around the state, to provide details about two Miami University students who were tested after returning from China with flu-like symptoms. Both students ended up testing negative for coronavirus. Ohio has not had any confirmed cases.

In addition to not releasing such information this time around to the media until the test results are in, the state health department has instructed local health officials this time around to neither confirm nor deny that the new suspected case is in their area, according to Adam Nation, a spokesman for the Cleveland Department of Public Health.

An Ohio Department of Health spokeswoman didn’t immediately return a phone call seeking comment on why the department clamped down on sharing information about the new potential case.

But Nation said it was because the state health department wants to avoid a repeat of last week, when the two Miami University students were subjected to heavy media attention even though they weren’t identified, and it turned out they didn’t have the coronavirus.

“They're worried about protecting the privacy of individuals,” Nation said. “And as with what they felt they saw in Butler County, they decided to change the way that they're instructing us to respond to these.”

Kevin Brennan, a spokesman for the Cuyahoga County Board of Health, confirmed that this new potential coronavirus case is not in Cuyahoga County. Asked if he knew where the new suspected case is, Brennan said his agency has not been told that information.

“It’s not like last week, when they were on statewide calls just talking about, whatever county they were in,” Brennan said.
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I understand privacy to a point. but this is a potentially deadly disease that is part of a pandemic. How are the people in Ohio supposed to know if they have potentially been exposed or not? Is that cough just from a cold or now the coronavirus? At least give the location of a county or even better, a city/town. Give the residents a chance! And if the suspected cases are not Americans, well, then we really need to know.

Data matters!
 
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wlf0wtr

wlf0wtr

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Pinecone said:
I understand privacy to a point. but this is a potentially deadly disease that is part of a pandemic. How are the people in Ohio supposed to know if they have potentially be exposed or not? Is that cough just from a cold or now the coronavirus? At least give the location of a county or even better, a city/town. Give the residents a chance! And if the suspected cases are not Americans, well, then we really need to know.

Data matters!
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I agree. This is very disturbing. I hope that there is enough outrage from residents that they rethink this decision.
 
Jubilee on Earth

Jubilee on Earth

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wlf0wtr said:
Another in Ohio being tested. This one they're refusing to tell who or even where in Ohio.


COLUMBUS, Ohio—As another person in Ohio is being tested for coronavirus, state health officials are being more tight-lipped about details than they were about the first suspected cases.
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I have a hunch that if they're being tight lipped about this, it's another college campus. Likely Ohio State. The college campuses are going to be like dominoes, with the students that went back to China during semester break. If it were another student at Miami University, it would be such a shock. But two universities in one state? That will start freaking people out. Parents especially.
 
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Squid

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northern watch said:
CBC News Alerts‏Verified account @CBCAlerts 1h1 hour ago

Update @CBCNews: World Health Organization seeks $675M US to fight coronavirus. Says money needed to help countries deal with the outbreak.
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I got a brilliant idea since the head if Who is so tight with the Chinese gubmint have Xi write you out a check, maybe they don’t need another aircraft carrier or so many subs at this time.
 
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northern watch

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BNO Newsroom‏Verified account @BNODesk 2m2 minutes ago

Coronavirus update: - 27,602 confirmed cases worldwide - 23,260 suspected cases - 564 fatalities - 3,614 in serious/critical condition - 1,030 recovered - Most cases in China - 25 countries reporting cases
 
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