POL A Warning to Conservatives, don't get complacent on impeachment.

Troke

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A march to ruin, a gang of Mafiosi has been unleashed on our great nation from the bowels of Capitol Hill. This is a modern-day NKVD, a Moscow show trial of revolutionary zealots that would made Felix Dzerzhinsky proud. This sham of a witch hunt is tailor-made for Hollywood, Adam Schiff playing Beria, CNN and the N.Y. Times playing Pravda. Stalin just hasn't appeared on stage yet; fear that his time is coming.

Now impeachment is upon us. Anyone who claims with certainty that he knows exactly what the next few months will bring is fooling himself. Yes, the Senate may acquit; those senators may just dismiss this hoax and spare us a trial. But then what? Does one really think the Democrats will fold up the tent and scurry away? The forces unleased by this shredding of the Constitution are unknown to all, and for one to assume that this will easily lead to a Trump landslide and a Democrat massive defeat is delusional and clueless as to the motives and nature of the Left.

The damage being done is incalculable, and what this all could portend is beyond our worst nightmares. The Democrats have shunned our forefathers, the bequeathing of liberty, all lost for their lust for power. What lies beyond that power is nothing but darkness and death — the death of our Republic and so much more, all built on their Utopian fantasies. The world's last best hope of freedom's light extinguished. They are this close to achieving their ultimate goal.

Orwell had it right: the pigs will indeed walk on two feet, take over the House and party like gluttons in their dachas, while the masses will suffer slow, quiet lives of poverty-ridden desperation down on the farm. The Left say we will be like Sweden, but only in their dreams. Within twenty years, we will be Venezuela on steroids, a living hell of rationing, starvation, and torture. It is always so.

This is the worst crisis America has ever faced — more than the Civil War, more than the American Revolution, dare I say. The worst outcome of that struggle would have been that we remained colonies of the British Empire. A colony of 18th- and 19th-century British rule would pale in comparison to what the leftist cabal of thugs of the new Democrat Party has in store for us. Get the Gulags ready.
Say a prayer for Donald Trump, him who is flawed, imperfect, and loathed, but inexplicably the one and only thing that stands between a free America and the abyss. Love or hate him, he is our modern-day Washington. He has been sent to us; God's hand is on him. The smart class will no doubt snicker at that thought, but God's ways are not of our understanding.

The hated Trump is the one man who stood for our cherished beliefs and values. He has been ridiculed, mocked, and insulted, and, sadly, we see this even among many of our fellow conservatives. Some remained NeverTrumps; others hide their disdain, straddling the fence, waiting for him to fail, staying quiet, fearful they will lose their Twitter followers and donors.

I have heard all the buts: but yes, the House has impeached him, but the Senate will not convict. Perhaps, maybe. Or maybe a gaggle of Republican senators will make that walk up Pennsylvania Avenue just like in 1974, urging Nixon to resign, to save the country such grief. As of today, that won't happen, but the Left isn't done. The impeachment vote is just one step.

If the winds blow ill, can one really say with total certainty that a group led by McConnell, Sasse, Graham, and company won't bow to pressure and do the "honorable" thing in order to rid the nation of this travesty? Can't happen, you say? All I know is that to put our faith in the spines of the GOP members on the Hill is nothing but false hope. Pray it ends well, but don't bet on it. Just as with war, when this next act begins, no one knows the outcome.

The establishment of the GOP may just make the backroom deals and rationalize that this is their opportunity to take the party back from the usurper Trump. We all know that loyalty in our Capitol lasts but a moment. Of course, there is no going back; the Republicans of Romney, Ryan, and the rest being back in control will result in our ruin. Maybe a slower slide, a prolonged death of the Republic, but the end comes, all the same.

Titanic shifts are ahead of us. Will Trump survive? Will the movement he has created be suffocated in its cradle, or will it allow for a rebirth of America, the awakening we so desperately need? If Trump survives, we have a brief reprieve, though the Left's relentless pursuit of power will not slow, and the war against Trump will never cease. The impeachment vote in the House is just the beginning. We had better saddle up.

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WalknTrot

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Source: The American Thinker
Author: Michael Finch
Dec. 19, 2019



I refuse to get caught up in the madness that has taken over the media and politics.
Complacent - never.
All-consuming obsession to the point of priority over real life? Never.
Worst crisis America has ever faced? Don't be a Drama Queen. Not yet. Not even close. We will know in spades if it's coming or if it happens.
 

Gercarson

Veteran Member
Always be wary - be leery of everything that comes out of Washington. We KNOW we have been psychologically manipulated for many decades and have actually signed on to the Hegelian Dialectic to guide our choices of "NO" choice. Now, we have President Trump who does not fit into that contrived and solid mind-set . . . we must always be alert because this man IS still able to maneuver within the globalist controlled monetary systems . . . how and why? We remain on the "prison planet" controlled by the megalomaniacs whose definitions of ethics and morals are vastly different from the embedded mores of the vast majority of humanity - we aren't even sure that OURS are correct or if we have been taught a belief system from birth that fits the one that is in our hearts, Life IS just a hologram that we "exist" within.
 

Troke

On TB every waking moment
Aaaaactually, a lot of the 2018 mess was due to retiring RINOs, if I remember right.
That is correct. And the Trumpers sat there watching the Stupid Party do nothing to replace them.

In our local district, the GOP incumbent got thrown out by a low vote.
 

Blacknarwhal

Let's Go Brandon!
That is correct. And the Trumpers sat there watching the Stupid Party do nothing to replace them.

In our local district, the GOP incumbent got thrown out by a low vote.
I'm afraid I don't see what the response should have been. The Trumpers don't control the Stupid Party, much as they'd like to.
 

poppy

Veteran Member
Trump won't lose many, if any votes in the Senate. Did you notice not one republican voted for impeachment in the House? There are some republicans in the House who are not big on Trump but they can read the tea leaves.
 

nomifyle

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Trump won't lose many, if any votes in the Senate. Did you notice not one republican voted for impeachment in the House? There are some republicans in the House who are not big on Trump but they can read the tea leaves.

Just listening to Outnumbered on Fox, and Jessica Tarlif (whom I simply can't stand, even the sound of her voice grates on my nerves) said she did not expect even Mitt Romney to vote to impeach. I found that interesting but think she is generally full of shit.

I'm not being complacent about the senate at all, I don't trust any of them except Trump.

Judy
 

Troke

On TB every waking moment
Well,
I'm afraid I don't see what the response should have been. The Trumpers don't control the Stupid Party, much as they'd like to.

Well, 350 gun owners showed up at the county court demanding that our county be a gun sanctuary. I would suggest if 350 showed up at GOP headquarters last election ready to pound the sidewalks for the GOP, the GOP incumbent would have been re-elected.

Not only did they not do that, I suspect most of them didn't even vote.
 

Rabbit

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Nothing is for sure and I think it will come down to: we won't investigate you if you don't investigate us.
 

et2

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Not complacent and won't be. The communist Demonrats are not going to back down. They'll destroy what's left of this country trying to remove Trump & us. 2020 is going to be a wild ride. Be prepared, anything could happen. The deep state and communist Demonrats are PISSED. We better hope our cheating is better than their cheating.
 

privatemom

Veteran Member
Sorry - I think it is WAY too late. We have been way too complacent, apathetic and stand offish for too long. Doom Porn? I don't think so. We can howl all we want to, but the time to do something to save our nation has passed us by and we let it happen.
 

Ractivist

Pride comes before the fall.....Pride month ended.
I wonder what the odds are in Vegas on this..... the article's foundation is solid. The two parties are two sides of the same coin, we all know this. The comment above about we won't if you won't has great truth behind it. The photos and videos that exist have great power over everyone. I suspect the right and or the left, abusing this as only lawyers can, could turn it in almost any direction, any extreme. The last second move by the lefts lawyers is one fine example.

If I had my way:

Shut this down at the senate level immediately. Move on to an offensive of our own making. Break out the ropes.
 

heelgeneral

Senior Member
I wonder what the odds are in Vegas on this..... the article's foundation is solid. The two parties are two sides of the same coin, we all know this. The comment above about we won't if you won't has great truth behind it. The photos and videos that exist have great power over everyone. I suspect the right and or the left, abusing this as only lawyers can, could turn it in almost any direction, any extreme. The last second move by the lefts lawyers is one fine example.

If I had my way:

Shut this down at the senate level immediately. Move on to an offensive of our own making. Break out the ropes.

Vegas odds are currently 50-1 against conviction/removal, according to Betonline sportsbook.
 

Ractivist

Pride comes before the fall.....Pride month ended.
That's an interesting number....hate to see it happen, but at those odds dropping a bill on it might be the only good that could come out of it. Wonder what the fine print on it is......a time line. Given the lawyers could take this and twist it every which way possible...
 

BUBBAHOTEPT

Veteran Member
Privatemom, I really hope you are wrong; however, I have this strange feeling in the pit of my stomach and the thinking part of my brain.....
 

CaryC

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In response to Christianity Today

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Franklin Graham Slams Christianity Today: My Father Billy Graham ‘Voted for Donald Trump’

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In this March 2, 2018 file photo, Pastor Franklin Graham speaks during a funeral service at the Billy Graham Library for the Rev. Billy Graham, who died last week at age 99 in Charlotte, N.C. Graham has denounced the impeachment investigation of President Donald Trump, but this week asked followers …
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Celebrated evangelical pastor Franklin Graham revealed Friday his father, Billy Graham, voted for Donald J. Trump in 2016 because he believed he was the best man for the job.

“My father knew Donald Trump, he believed in Donald Trump, and he voted for Donald Trump,” Graham wrote on Facebook early Friday. “He believed that Donald J. Trump was the man for this hour in history for our nation.”


Rev. Franklin Graham was responding to an article that appeared Thursday in Christianity Today — a magazine founded by “America’s pastor” Billy Graham — declaring that President Trump should be removed from office.
Since “they invoked my father’s name (I suppose to try to bring legitimacy to their statements),” Rev. Graham wrote, “I feel it is important for me to respond.”
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“Yes, my father Billy Graham founded Christianity Today; but no, he would not agree with their opinion piece. In fact, he would be very disappointed,” Graham said, noting that the misappropriation of his father’s name is what moved him to reveal whom his father voted for in 2016.
Rev. Graham then proceeded to offer his own searing indictment of the behavior of House Democrats in their “politically motivated, 100% partisan” impeachment of the president.

“For Christianity Today to side with the Democrat Party in a totally partisan attack on the President of the United States is unfathomable,” Graham wrote. “Christianity Today failed to acknowledge that not one single Republican voted with the Democrats to impeach the President.”
“I know a number of Republicans in Congress, and many of them are strong Christians,” he declared. “If the President were guilty of what the Democrats claimed, these Republicans would have joined with the Democrats to impeach him. But the Democrats were not even unanimous—two voted against impeachment and one voted present.”
“This impeachment was politically motivated, 100% partisan. Why would Christianity Today choose to take the side of the Democrat left whose only goal is to discredit and smear the name of a sitting president?” Graham asked. “They want readers to believe the Democrat leadership rather than believe the President of the United States.”

Rev. Graham next offered a tally of some of the president’s accomplishments, asking rhetorically why Christianity Today had not bothered to take them into consideration.
“Look at all the President has accomplished in a very short time,” he wrote. “The economy of our nation is the strongest it has been in 50 years, ISIS & the caliphate have been defeated, and the President has renegotiated trade deals to benefit all Americans.”
“The list of accomplishments is long, but for me as a Christian, the fact that he is the most pro-life president in modern history is extremely important — and Christianity Today wants us ignore that, to say it doesn’t count?” he continued. “The President has been a staunch defender of religious freedom at home and around the world — and Christianity Today wants us to ignore that? Also the President has appointed conservative judges in record number — and Christianity Today wants us to ignore that?”

The evangelical leader then moved into discuss the real motivation behind Christianity Today’s hit piece on the president.
Christianity Today said it’s time to call a spade a spade,” he wrote. “The spade is this — Christianity Today has been used by the left for their political agenda. It’s obvious that Christianity Today has moved to the left and is representing the elitist liberal wing of evangelicalism.”
“Is President Trump guilty of sin?” Graham concludes. “Of course he is, as were all past presidents and as each one of us are, including myself. Therefore, let’s pray for the President as he continues to lead the affairs of our nation.”
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