mzkitty
I give up.
Those rich people all donated of their own free will. I'm sure it was like a drop in the bucket to them.
POL Twitter: Clinton has "Medical Episode", Faints during 9/11 Ceremony
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Those rich people all donated of their own free will. I'm sure it was like a drop in the bucket to them.
Medical Maven
Deceased
I saw it too, looked crossed.
TheSearcher
Are you sure about that?
Left eye pointing to her right, and up a little bit, right eye looking straight at the camera. Left eye open wider than the right, but that could be due to lighting conditions and normal physical reactions.
Medical Maven
Deceased
The good news is that she will be under tremendous stress trying to maintain this "health" fiction. It will be VERY counterproductive for her health, such as it is.
mzkitty
I give up.
Some of her comments today:
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Clinton: 'People have accused me of all kinds of things' but never accused of quitting
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Photo: Hillary Clinton speaks in Greensboro, NC, says whether illness puts Americans in economic trouble should not come down to 'luck' - @ABCPolitics
https://twitter.com/ABCPolitics/status/776506726317043712
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Hillary Clinton returns to campaign trail after break for illness, says she appreciated having some time with her thoughts
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Clinton: 'People have accused me of all kinds of things' but never accused of quitting
End of alert
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Photo: Hillary Clinton speaks in Greensboro, NC, says whether illness puts Americans in economic trouble should not come down to 'luck' - @ABCPolitics
https://twitter.com/ABCPolitics/status/776506726317043712
1h
Hillary Clinton returns to campaign trail after break for illness, says she appreciated having some time with her thoughts
End of alert
LightEcho
Has No Life - Lives on TB
Notice ALL the BLUE signs in the airplane. The blue stabilizes the effects of Parkinsons. Watch for heavy blue lighting at events and debates.
bw
Fringe Ranger
If she has the drinking problem as reported, then the last thing she wants is some time with her thoughts. Drunks drink to stop the thinking.
packyderms_wife
Neither here nor there.
Her head starts bobbing towards the end of the video, it's very pronounced when she laughs.
ainitfunny
Saved, to glorify God.
Are you SERIOUS? Laurane was correct.
They "donated NOTHING!" They were BUYING Ambassadorships, high level appointments, government contracts, pardons, new laws that favored their corporate businesses, government "dropping the case" against their businesses, favorable tax treatment by the IRS, AND a host of other "pay to play" special interest, special treatment and largess of government power and taxpayer funds funneled to them.
brokenwings
Veteran Member
I agree. And also she looks like she had a face lift AND a neck left while out. She looks younger and thinner. Imagine if they can make people look so realistic for movies how much better than can do that we don't know about.
thompson
Certa Bonum Certamen
I'm pretty sure that's the outfit that cost $12K. Someone here likened it to a Kirby vacuum cleaner bag, which I thought was an accurate (and hilarious) description.
It's apparent to me she had her hair done during her 'recuperation' (highlights touched up, possibly a trim). I've noticed that she's worn wigs earlier in the campaign, but that's her real hair today, pretty sure of it. For all of her ailments, she has great hair for her age (she's always had thick, healthy hair). Having "good hair" negates a lot of other things that can be distracting.
Early in the campaign she always appeared with nice hair, but the longer it goes on, the more we see her with "bad hair days". That's shouldn't ever happen with a presidential candidate who has plenty of money and connections to afford always having a traveling hair stylist with them for every single appearance - UNLESS she has health episodes that preclude the time necessary to 'do' her hair/makeup. There's several times she's appeared in public that her disheveled, flat, greasy looking hair style drew attention to her and invited speculation.
imaginative
keep your eye on the ball
Flippper
Time Traveler
Looks like she's had some neck and face work done, there is something they can do with a laser and suction that makes the skin tighten, very rejuvenating I hear. She almost sounded like a human being in that clip, unlike a shrieking harridan, I wonder what that restraint cost her health wise?
mzkitty
I give up.
Oh, I get it. I read the ambassador article. I was kind of joking.
Laurane
Canadian Loonie
I don't know that we should be mentioning "bad hair days" for Hillary, when Donald Trump sometimes has a bit of a slider on his top hair - kind of leans to one side. I hope he lets it go silver rather than keep up the blond dye job - he would look like a silver honey badger.
Scarletbreasted
Galloping geriatric
Re Hitlery's ugly bulky clothing and the "bulkiness" of it (For want of a better word)
Who thinks she may we wearing a bullet proof vest, with or without the ceramic plates, which would also add to the weight! (She is becoming a threatened specie after all !)
SB
Who thinks she may we wearing a bullet proof vest, with or without the ceramic plates, which would also add to the weight! (She is becoming a threatened specie after all !)
SB
thompson
Certa Bonum Certamen
I mention Hillary's 'bad hair days' because when she has them, attention is then also drawn to her enormous under eye bags and wrinkles, stooped posture, and overall feebleness. Trump has some wrinkles, but nothing like Hillary does. He presents a vigorous, energetic appearance, full of vitality DESPITE his hair.
Hillary does not.
Mark Armstrong
Veteran Member
Some lib on a left-wing site had a close-up from Trump's appearance in Mexico, a close-up that seems to show Trump using a bobby pin to keep the comb-over in place. But even if true, it's totally irrelevant. Wish people didn't vote on looks.
nchomemaker
Veteran Member
I watched her speech in Greensboro NC today and she appeared healthy and didn't cough at all, and her eyes were fine. So, we wait.
bw
Fringe Ranger
She's balanced on a knife-edge of medication. Too much and she'll over-rev and crash. Too little and she can't cope. The odds of coming off that edge to one side or the other are virtually a sure thing. The odds of it happening between now and the end of the debates are close to a sure thing. It's the Demolition Derby of politics.
brokenwings
Veteran Member
I doubt they will make the mistake of letting anybody film her having a seizure or coughing spell or anything. They will wind up killing someone over this I think.
Just now coming across this from early this week... MIL died from Lewy Body type dementia. The only way to actually diagnose Lewy Body currently is via autopsy.
Interesting to see this possibility applied to Hillary...
====================================
http://charltonteaching.blogspot.com/2016/09/the-point-of-inflexion-and-awakening.html
Monday, 12 September 2016
The point of inflexion and awakening? Now that Hillary Clinton will never be POTUS, are the scales about to fall from tens of millions of US eyes?
My interest in*this matter is spiritual, not political; this is not about an election, it is about the potential for*mass spiritual awakening triggered by a recognition of the scale and scope of falsehood being perpetrated in official public discourse; and the potential for many, many*people very suddenly (and unexpectedly) to make a decision*either to stay inside or to move outside The Matrix of dishonesty and delusion.
But this is a critical time in the history of The West. Either we will decide to continue in the present direction to extinction and self-damnation; or to step off the down-escalator and start climbing back upwards.*
Whatever happens in the next few hours or days, and whether or not she gets elected in name; it is now clear that Hillary Clinton will never be President of the United States*in any functional sense.
My probable inference is, and has been for a while:
1. HRC has moderately-advanced and swiftly-progressing Parkinson's disease - this is a degenerative neurological disorder with many potential effects including inability to initiate movements (Akinesia or freezing), tremor and rigidity/ stiffness; including a high prevalence of dementia of the Lewy Body type (including episodes of delirium with hallucinations and delusions - although the baseline Parkinsonian state is blunted emotions and a mask-like inexpressive face).
An Akinesia/ freezing episode looks like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YzZl9j580tM
Note how the freeze episode is triggered by the need to step-off a kerb - a classic Parkinsonian symptom of Akinesia - and the subject does not 'stumble' or trip on the kerb, nor did she 'fall' (that is the mass media telling you what you are supposed to see) - but is standing frozen, unable to initiate the movements needed to step-off the kerb, and stiffly resisting moving forwards, having to be dragged bodily and off-balance.
2. She is being treated with L-dopa - but this drug many significant side effects, including dystonic movement disorders; 'manic' types of hyper-emotionality; alternating ('On-Off') with episodes of freezing - i.e. being unable to step forward (see the later parts of the movie 'Awakenings' for these problems.)
3. She is being kept-going (kept moving, essentially) for brief public appearances, probably with Apomorphine injections. The injection is an temporary emergency 'rescue' treatment - to be used when someone freezes (or used in advance to prevent a freeze). The injection of Apomorphine works in about ten minutes but lasts less than an hour - and there are other significant side effects including psychotic features (hallucinations and delusions).
(Note: One of HBC's aides apparently carries an injector pen of the type used for these injections.
4. Pneumonia? Whether or not HBC currently has 'pneumonia' is of little relative importance. It may be just today's lie; but if true, pneumonia is probably due to Parkinsonian (or treatment-triggered) problems swallowing, coughing, choking - and inhaling something which has caused an infection.
Personally, I suspect that pneumonia if real is trivial; since HRC was up and about and smiling for a photo-opportunity within a 1.5 hours of being frozen and helplessly carried away from the 9/11 ceremony. Pneumonia severe enough to cause collapse would take days to improve - but bouncing back in a few hours is consistent with On-Off syndrome of freezing alternating with active Parkinsonism treated with L-dopa; or a temporary boost (just long enough for photos) from an Apomorphine shot.
*
The election result is the least of the factors*at work now.*
What is now known (cannot, indeed, be avoided) is that the US public and the world have been lied-to on an epic scale and for a very long time by the US Establishment in collusion with the Mass Media who have attempted to get-elected someone with a serious, advanced and degenerative neurological disease who is grossly incapable of doing any kind of job.
(At the rate the disease is apparently progressing; within days, weeks or at most months HRC is quite likely to be in a high intensity care facility - and her life expectancy is likely to be less than the first term of office.)
How did this happen? In a world so completely dominated by the secular Left;*this was a self-inflected blow. There has been some extraordinary combination of self-deception and probably coercion at work to get to this point: lies piled upon lies; threats piled upon threats...
Whatever - now the Democrats find themselves holding the wolf by the ears: they surely cannot hold on to the lies for two months, but they are terrified of what will happen if they let-go and start to tell the truth...*
*
But that may not be the whole story. We are always living (know it or not) in a state of supernatural spiritual warfare - God and the angels versus Satan and his demons - and to some extent, it seems likely that this moment has been prepared by the powers of Good - so that there will be a time of choice...
A time when people will be brought to the point of acknowledging - albeit for a moment - the gulf between public discourse and reality; acknowledging that the Establishment is not just incompetent and selfish and short-termist; but has an actively-malign strategic agenda to attack, subvert, corrupt and invert The Good.
Lying on this scale, involving so many leaders, institutions and their minions, and about such a crucial matter is of world-historical significance. The question is whether this significance hits home and gets acknowledged; and having been acknowledged leads to restorative action and the blood, sweat, toil and tears which must ensue; or whether the whole thing is cynically and despairingly swept-away in the torrent of distractions from the propaganda, news and entertainment cycle.
*
To step outside 'The Matrix' of Media-reality into the clarity of Real-reality is itself merely a first step - beyond that lie further choices of an essentially religious nature.
The ultimate decision is to recognise (or falsely deny) the absolute necessity of religion; and eventually to choose between religions.
But a first step is needed.
**
Note: This moment is not primarily about those who already opposed Hillary Clinton, but those sincere and serious Democrats who had her candidacy dishonestly foisted-upon them. They will now be brought to recognise that they have been systematically lied-to by a united front of people and institutions whom they trusted and regarded as well-intentioned; treated with extreme disdain, manipulated to serve some covert agenda, exploited cynically for malign ends. These are the kind of people - some at a very high level of status, responsibility, wealth and power - who will now face a crux.
Posted by Bruce Charlton at Monday, September 12, 2016
Interesting to see this possibility applied to Hillary...
====================================
http://charltonteaching.blogspot.com/2016/09/the-point-of-inflexion-and-awakening.html
Monday, 12 September 2016
The point of inflexion and awakening? Now that Hillary Clinton will never be POTUS, are the scales about to fall from tens of millions of US eyes?
My interest in*this matter is spiritual, not political; this is not about an election, it is about the potential for*mass spiritual awakening triggered by a recognition of the scale and scope of falsehood being perpetrated in official public discourse; and the potential for many, many*people very suddenly (and unexpectedly) to make a decision*either to stay inside or to move outside The Matrix of dishonesty and delusion.
But this is a critical time in the history of The West. Either we will decide to continue in the present direction to extinction and self-damnation; or to step off the down-escalator and start climbing back upwards.*
Whatever happens in the next few hours or days, and whether or not she gets elected in name; it is now clear that Hillary Clinton will never be President of the United States*in any functional sense.
My probable inference is, and has been for a while:
1. HRC has moderately-advanced and swiftly-progressing Parkinson's disease - this is a degenerative neurological disorder with many potential effects including inability to initiate movements (Akinesia or freezing), tremor and rigidity/ stiffness; including a high prevalence of dementia of the Lewy Body type (including episodes of delirium with hallucinations and delusions - although the baseline Parkinsonian state is blunted emotions and a mask-like inexpressive face).
An Akinesia/ freezing episode looks like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YzZl9j580tM
Note how the freeze episode is triggered by the need to step-off a kerb - a classic Parkinsonian symptom of Akinesia - and the subject does not 'stumble' or trip on the kerb, nor did she 'fall' (that is the mass media telling you what you are supposed to see) - but is standing frozen, unable to initiate the movements needed to step-off the kerb, and stiffly resisting moving forwards, having to be dragged bodily and off-balance.
2. She is being treated with L-dopa - but this drug many significant side effects, including dystonic movement disorders; 'manic' types of hyper-emotionality; alternating ('On-Off') with episodes of freezing - i.e. being unable to step forward (see the later parts of the movie 'Awakenings' for these problems.)
3. She is being kept-going (kept moving, essentially) for brief public appearances, probably with Apomorphine injections. The injection is an temporary emergency 'rescue' treatment - to be used when someone freezes (or used in advance to prevent a freeze). The injection of Apomorphine works in about ten minutes but lasts less than an hour - and there are other significant side effects including psychotic features (hallucinations and delusions).
(Note: One of HBC's aides apparently carries an injector pen of the type used for these injections.
4. Pneumonia? Whether or not HBC currently has 'pneumonia' is of little relative importance. It may be just today's lie; but if true, pneumonia is probably due to Parkinsonian (or treatment-triggered) problems swallowing, coughing, choking - and inhaling something which has caused an infection.
Personally, I suspect that pneumonia if real is trivial; since HRC was up and about and smiling for a photo-opportunity within a 1.5 hours of being frozen and helplessly carried away from the 9/11 ceremony. Pneumonia severe enough to cause collapse would take days to improve - but bouncing back in a few hours is consistent with On-Off syndrome of freezing alternating with active Parkinsonism treated with L-dopa; or a temporary boost (just long enough for photos) from an Apomorphine shot.
*
The election result is the least of the factors*at work now.*
What is now known (cannot, indeed, be avoided) is that the US public and the world have been lied-to on an epic scale and for a very long time by the US Establishment in collusion with the Mass Media who have attempted to get-elected someone with a serious, advanced and degenerative neurological disease who is grossly incapable of doing any kind of job.
(At the rate the disease is apparently progressing; within days, weeks or at most months HRC is quite likely to be in a high intensity care facility - and her life expectancy is likely to be less than the first term of office.)
How did this happen? In a world so completely dominated by the secular Left;*this was a self-inflected blow. There has been some extraordinary combination of self-deception and probably coercion at work to get to this point: lies piled upon lies; threats piled upon threats...
Whatever - now the Democrats find themselves holding the wolf by the ears: they surely cannot hold on to the lies for two months, but they are terrified of what will happen if they let-go and start to tell the truth...*
*
But that may not be the whole story. We are always living (know it or not) in a state of supernatural spiritual warfare - God and the angels versus Satan and his demons - and to some extent, it seems likely that this moment has been prepared by the powers of Good - so that there will be a time of choice...
A time when people will be brought to the point of acknowledging - albeit for a moment - the gulf between public discourse and reality; acknowledging that the Establishment is not just incompetent and selfish and short-termist; but has an actively-malign strategic agenda to attack, subvert, corrupt and invert The Good.
Lying on this scale, involving so many leaders, institutions and their minions, and about such a crucial matter is of world-historical significance. The question is whether this significance hits home and gets acknowledged; and having been acknowledged leads to restorative action and the blood, sweat, toil and tears which must ensue; or whether the whole thing is cynically and despairingly swept-away in the torrent of distractions from the propaganda, news and entertainment cycle.
*
To step outside 'The Matrix' of Media-reality into the clarity of Real-reality is itself merely a first step - beyond that lie further choices of an essentially religious nature.
The ultimate decision is to recognise (or falsely deny) the absolute necessity of religion; and eventually to choose between religions.
But a first step is needed.
**
Note: This moment is not primarily about those who already opposed Hillary Clinton, but those sincere and serious Democrats who had her candidacy dishonestly foisted-upon them. They will now be brought to recognise that they have been systematically lied-to by a united front of people and institutions whom they trusted and regarded as well-intentioned; treated with extreme disdain, manipulated to serve some covert agenda, exploited cynically for malign ends. These are the kind of people - some at a very high level of status, responsibility, wealth and power - who will now face a crux.
Posted by Bruce Charlton at Monday, September 12, 2016
brokenwings
Veteran Member
Okay, I went back and looked at her speech video from today and they somehow used a Hillary from 20 years ago and placed her on a green screen to make it look like she gave a speech!! If you slow the video down to .25 you can see that ALL the cameras people are recording with do NOT show Hillary or all the flags in the background or anything close to what we are seeing!!! This is a FRAUD!! That is why Hillary looks so young and refreshed because she IS!! No wrinkles, no sags, no bags, nothing!!
Yup, today she looked and sounded just fine.
If she does have a neurological condition, which I suspect, she is going to have good days and she will have bad days.
Ultimately there is little they can do to stop her from having another seizure or a "freeze". It is just a matter of time and her condition will not improve or go away with time. It will get worse.
Hopefully the alternative media will have people filming her every coming and going.
Sleeping Cobra
TB Fanatic
Maybe it's Hillary's double on the campaign trail. Teresa Barnhill.
nchomemaker
Veteran Member
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evenso
Veteran Member
Tell me how they can pull this off? Wouldn't someone in Greensboro report that they had gone to the rally but never saw Clinton? I guess I'm not understanding how they'd do that although I believe somehow they did!
And I freeze-framed someone with their camera raised up right in front of Clinton but she wasn't in the frame! How is this done???
TheSearcher
Are you sure about that?
I saw it too. You people are NOT crazy. W T F.
TheSearcher
Are you sure about that?
Be Well
may all be well
A comment from an astute person who notices details, and can put two and two together:
I doubt if anyone noticed, but that video of Hillary coming out of her daughter’s apartment building WAS NOT taken in the afternoon after her episode...it shows her in the morning BEFORE the 9/11 Memorial. imo
Just look at the shadows.
That’s why she looks so totally unfazed, and why, when she’s asked ‘how are you’? she replies, ‘I feel great’
Video of her AT the memorial and video of her leaving the apartment were the result of official press at both events.
The episode at the kerb when she was literally being carried into the vehicle they were waiting for, was filmed by someone NOT officially connected to the event.
The two official video’s were stitched together to suit their narrative, the ‘episode’ itself was totally ignored.
The morning film was used to fool you all into assuming she had been taken to her daughter’s apartment, and had been revived and restored after one and a half hours.
She may have spent the night there.
Where she was actually taken, you aren’t privy to know.
Just look at the shadows.
That’s why she looks so totally unfazed, and why, when she’s asked ‘how are you’? she replies, ‘I feel great’
Video of her AT the memorial and video of her leaving the apartment were the result of official press at both events.
The episode at the kerb when she was literally being carried into the vehicle they were waiting for, was filmed by someone NOT officially connected to the event.
The two official video’s were stitched together to suit their narrative, the ‘episode’ itself was totally ignored.
The morning film was used to fool you all into assuming she had been taken to her daughter’s apartment, and had been revived and restored after one and a half hours.
She may have spent the night there.
Where she was actually taken, you aren’t privy to know.
TheSearcher
Are you sure about that?
Does the above look like this
To anybody else?
evenso
Veteran Member
Yikes! Truly you can't believe anything you see! But what do they do about the voice?