Yeah, you're right. By several million, probably. But narrow it down to the leadership echelons of the country, I wouldn't go against the high odds of it being truthful.That brush may be a tad too broad.
Yeah, you're right. By several million, probably. But narrow it down to the leadership echelons of the country, I wouldn't go against the high odds of it being truthful.That brush may be a tad too broad.
And I have no “position”, but remain quite skeptical and it’s way too early to give any or all a pass on this one.I'm just giving my opinion and posting some info that I think makes my supposition possible.
The ship lost power, which means it also lost its steering ability. In a no-wind condition it would have gone straight forward when the steering was lost.From another angle the ship turned straight into it. Ship should have been sailing in the middle of the supports, not very close to the one it hit. Also, WHY would the ship turn hard to starboard instead of staying on course when the lights go out? Looks deliberate to me.
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After you recover from your workload could you clarify. Are the the generators, main and aux, both running while doing maneuvers near port? Or is the aux gen started only after the main fails, stops or faults?Days off, and Thank You
Welcome ashore, Captain. Will three weeks be long enough for you regain your land legs?Not to throw cold water on the doom-fest, but it was an accident. Cascading failures lead to this. The same thing could have easily happened to me, and everyone else who's worked on the water for more than a few years.
Headed home from a LONG 3 weeks.on the boat, signing off for now.
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I'm NOT a govt disinformation officer. Just trying t o keep yall from going down dry rabbit holes.
I picked up on all that. And I'm not disparaging his views nor his expertise, but just because something could be an accident; with all that is going on in the world today, doesn't mean it IS an accident.You may be unaware, but Capt. Eddie is a boat captain... BIG boat captain. I'll listen to his reasoned analysis over all the hair on fire conspiracies, especially when those spouting them obviously haven't read al, the posts.
THEY LOST POWER...that means *no rudder*, wh8ch means *no steering*. The current is strong there, and reportedly at high/flood tide.
They dropped an anchor, hoping to help turn the ship away from the bridge, but it essentially acted like a pivot to turn right into the support.
And apparently (all of this is from our expert members above... I'm a landlubber!) a significant percentage of ship's masters/captains are Ukrainian.
If it had been a deliberate terrorist activity , they wouldn't have called Mayday and saved a bunch of lives.
Summerthyme
It's called 'crash astern", and yes it is a standard command. It's a propulsion command not a rudder comand. It involves overriding the shat brake and can easily shear either the prop key or the shaft itself, so it's only used in desperate situations. From the amount of cavitation right before impact I would say it was utilized.Is not emergency "Aft Steering" required on merchant vessels? I tend to think that would be the case.
I agree on Lara Logan but General Flynn has sounded a bit off lately. Of course he has an axe to grind so I get it.Yea, when Lara Logan and General Flynn, (two people who are as far away from sensationalism that you can get), are basically saying we were 'attacked,' I'm taking that to the bank.
I'm wondering if a few Mississippi bridge 'accidents' will be next? Wondering if they're trying to section us off for easier takeover.
Well, yunno….By all appearances, the Captain did everything he could to avoid the collision.
Until something substantial is brought to light, I'll take this one at face value.
A thread can be started in ALT if peeps want to explore the possibility of bigfoot stowing away on that ship and the 5G, negative waves activated his nanites ingested from Jack Link's beef jerkey...making him disable the powerplants.
I don't think he meant a propulsion command, I think he meant a manual rudder control near the stern.It's called 'crash astern", and yes it is a standard command. It's a propulsion command not a rudder comand. It involves overriding the shat brake and can easily shear either the prop key or the shaft itself, so it's only used in desperate situations. From the amount of cavitation right before impact I would say it was utilized.
Maybe someone with knowledge can answer.....Unlike Captain Eddie, I've never been the captain of a vessel, but I have been a deckhand on many and I worked as a commercial diver for many years.
Most importantly - for this thread at least - I've been onboard when the power was lost. Fortunately this was always out in the Gulf and not in congested waterways. Usually the problem was resolved quickly. Also, importantly, the tugs and workboats I was on had port and starboard engines. Usually, only one would go out, which is not nearly as bad as losing both.
Large merchant ships often only have one huge main engine and when that goes out you're in deep kimchee! I did find it odd that in the video the ship appeared to go dark several times. Large, modern ships almost always have large generators - separate from the main engine - to provide ship's power.
I don't know anything about the design of the ship in question, so for now I'm going to accept the idea that it was an accident. I'm always open to adjust my opinion if further evidence come out.
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There is a requirement but it isn’t going to get rigged in the minute or 2 they had.Is not emergency "Aft Steering" required on merchant vessels? I tend to think that would be the case.
Damn, someone else who knows about boats. Love you brother, even if you're a coasty. Taking off again, on a 737There is a requirement but it isn’t going to get rigged in the minute or 2 they had.
They did they only 2 things they realistically had time for. Crash astern and drop the ready anchor. But you have 100000 tons traveling at 8.5 knots. It doesn’t stop quickly.
Another thing to consider is that the rotation of the prop affects the way a ship moves. It is called prop walk and pushes the stern either port or starboard depending on direction of rotation and whether they are going ahead or astern. A right hand turning prop will push the stern to port when the vessel is going astern. Crashing astern without a rudder may have caused the vessel stern to push out to port. Just a guess on my part.
Taking off again, on a 737
Yeah, at this point I'm going with a big splash; not sure if dust would light up or reflect like that. Thanks.It's dust from the concrete being smashed by a ship.
Done.Ok. Lets start a thread for "alternative explanations" in the Alt forum, and leave this one for actual news, please!
And we *won't* be moving posts... Any more woo posts will be deleted.
Summerthyme
Exactly! Awfully premature to say no terrorism. Until you know the cause you do not know what did not cause it. This is far too complex to jump to that conclusion.
Them saying "not terrorism" so soon is the main reason for my suspecting terrorism.
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The tugs were probably pulled once the ship was in the channel. That is common practice as the ship can navigate the channel on its own. Usually.(FSTCBL) Mind you, I have no knowledge of shipping. Just bringing over information to be dissected.
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I was traveling, not piloting.Sounds like someone needs their license revoked!
Not to rain on anyone's cruise parade (as I've often thought of taking one), but there is a certain demographic, by the dozens or apparently sometimes hundreds, that have ruined a lot of people's enjoyment of big cruises over the last 10 or so years. Think of a Popeye's fight on steroids. All kinds of videos out there showing why we can't have nice things anymore. Wherever 3 or more shall gather in their name, all hell tends to break out. Just a heads up if you were unaware.I was considering a Royal Caribbean cruise in early September to Canada / New England from Baltimore.
Do those engines actually internally reverse, or is there some kind of transmission involved?Observers said that black smoke was seen emanating from the ship in the moments beforehand, suggesting the crew may have attempted to reverse its engines.
Thanks Cap. I was curious because the US Naval vessels I was on all had a physical compartment astern called "Aft Steering" It was always manned during transit through the harbor.It's called 'crash astern", and yes it is a standard command. It's a propulsion command not a rudder comand. It involves overriding the shat brake and can easily shear either the prop key or the shaft itself, so it's only used in desperate situations. From the amount of cavitation right before impact I would say it was utilized.
All commercial vessels are required to have emergency steering back aft for that very reason. But it is not required to be manned to my knowledge. When we inspected foreign ships we made them operate it to make sure it was operational. I forget what the times were but it was required to from hard port to hard starboard in a certain amount of time.Thanks Cap. I was curious because the US Naval vessels I was on all had a physical compartment astern called "Aft Steering" It was always manned during transit through the harbor.
If steering was lost on the bridge, aft steering could take control of the rudder.
By all appearances, the Captain did everything he could to avoid the collision.
Until something substantial is brought to light, I'll take this one at face value.
A thread can be started in ALT if peeps want to explore the possibility of bigfoot stowing away on that ship and the 5G, negative waves activated his nanites ingested from Jack Link's beef jerkey...making him disable the powerplants.
I don’t know how to bring vids over here from email….(friend sent a tiktok vid), but there is video footage showing blast signatures at each point where the bridge broke.
Dunno.
Great way to speed up demise of a nation.
No big casualty event required.
Just accidentally start removing key infrastructure.
Lara Logan.
……Ships backing up in the shipping lane South of Baltimore