SCI U.S. Boeing Starliner Crewed Flight Test coming up on (May 6th), May 17th, May 21. May 25 - INDEFINITELY DELAYED - Post 37
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night driver
ESFP adrift in INTJ sea
What they are ADMITTING to is, "We can't GET to this valve without a week of dismantlement, and THAT includes the ASSUMPTION that we know WHICH BLEEPIN valve we need to get to."
"SO, our next action is to haul it into the hangar, FIND the leaking valves and replace them."
"See all y'all in a month or two."
("Y'all didn't think we were gonna rebuild the rocket ON THE BLEEPING PAD, out in the weather, did you??" None of OUR mammies raised dummies!")
"SO, our next action is to haul it into the hangar, FIND the leaking valves and replace them."
"See all y'all in a month or two."
("Y'all didn't think we were gonna rebuild the rocket ON THE BLEEPING PAD, out in the weather, did you??" None of OUR mammies raised dummies!")
Melodi
Disaster Cat
I won't be surprised if things are bad enough that engineers and scientists manage to change the minds of the bean counters, and they end up having to examine (and partly rebuild) the entire spacecraft. Boeing can't be trusted, and if things are as bad as they may be, I hope that is enough to allow NASA to void their contract.
I hope they can repair the ship and not have it become a white elephant in a space museum somewhere. But I'd rather see that happen than have it blow up with humans in it.
It isn't that I think space travel is ready to be perfect or that a certain amount of risk has to be expected—I think space travel is a very risky business and that people should accept that. However, there is a difference between risk because humans can't control everything in the heavens and risk because humans didn't do due diligence when creating the craft.
I hope they can repair the ship and not have it become a white elephant in a space museum somewhere. But I'd rather see that happen than have it blow up with humans in it.
It isn't that I think space travel is ready to be perfect or that a certain amount of risk has to be expected—I think space travel is a very risky business and that people should accept that. However, there is a difference between risk because humans can't control everything in the heavens and risk because humans didn't do due diligence when creating the craft.
night driver
ESFP adrift in INTJ sea
So we have Leak #1---Oxy valve overflow/over-pressurization leak in the propulsion system.
Leak #2--- Helium valve in a pressurization subassy for thruster fuel.
What ELSE is going to break while they roll the bird back out of the elements and un-build down to the Oxy valve as well as the helium valve.
I've seen this movie in software/firmware development. Every small or medium issue appears to just give more issues time to surface.
I HATE the film and having been involved with the postmortem where the Bosses were Headhunting and all the rest of us were trying to get to the bottom of the problems (some of us already knew where the bottom WAS).
Headhunting bosses win every time and the rest of us made sure that the only mention of OUR names was PURELY in terms of Postmortem of the project.
Leak #2--- Helium valve in a pressurization subassy for thruster fuel.
What ELSE is going to break while they roll the bird back out of the elements and un-build down to the Oxy valve as well as the helium valve.
I've seen this movie in software/firmware development. Every small or medium issue appears to just give more issues time to surface.
I HATE the film and having been involved with the postmortem where the Bosses were Headhunting and all the rest of us were trying to get to the bottom of the problems (some of us already knew where the bottom WAS).
Headhunting bosses win every time and the rest of us made sure that the only mention of OUR names was PURELY in terms of Postmortem of the project.
Very serious questions are now being asked about the future of Starliner.
It's worse than we were being led to believe.
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Boeing Starliner may have just suffered one too many setbacks. Let's hope so!
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It's worse than we were being led to believe.
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Boeing Starliner may have just suffered one too many setbacks. Let's hope so!
Disaster strikes the NASA Starliner Program! Is this the final nail in the coffin for Boeing?
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Keep in mind that this is a new rocket/space capsule development program. That is, it's not something that's been around for years. This program has already had so many delays that a few months more won't make any real difference. I just hope they get a manned Starliner launch out of the way before India launches their own manned rocket (planned for 2025, with the fingers firmly crossed on all four-or-six arms of Shiva) because I think that would be just plain sad for the U.S.
At this point I would not believe -any- new "planned" launch date being announced by the NASA/Boeing Cabal.
Announcing a launch date now is pure Bravo Sierra in my opinion until the rocket is brought out of the assembly building and is sitting on the launch pad.
It's kind of like when Cleetus and Scooter have your transmission disassembled in their bathtub and they tell you it will be ready on Saturday. OK, sure.
It ain't ready until it's ready and NASA/Boeing are just blowing smoke at this point until we get daily. detailed progress reports.
Another wrinkle to this saga.
A rocket can only be left assembled or "stacked" for a fixed amount of time until it needs to be "de-stacked" and inspected/refurbished as needed. All of the starts and stops and the refueling/unfueling cycles pay a toll.
NASA/Boeing are not commenting on this and remarkably may have not planned out far enough to consider what the actual destacking guidelines should be.
Stay tuned, this story has legs!
Announcing a launch date now is pure Bravo Sierra in my opinion until the rocket is brought out of the assembly building and is sitting on the launch pad.
It's kind of like when Cleetus and Scooter have your transmission disassembled in their bathtub and they tell you it will be ready on Saturday. OK, sure.
It ain't ready until it's ready and NASA/Boeing are just blowing smoke at this point until we get daily. detailed progress reports.
Another wrinkle to this saga.
A rocket can only be left assembled or "stacked" for a fixed amount of time until it needs to be "de-stacked" and inspected/refurbished as needed. All of the starts and stops and the refueling/unfueling cycles pay a toll.
NASA/Boeing are not commenting on this and remarkably may have not planned out far enough to consider what the actual destacking guidelines should be.
Stay tuned, this story has legs!