ALERT Incoming CME's Go Read this Thread NOW!!! - Maximum G5 Solar Storm Event Is In Progress Friday 5/10 -

packyderms_wife

packyderms_wife

Neither here nor there.
Melodi said:
The theory that Solar Flares cause Earthquakes is an alternative one, just like the theory that earthquakes are connected to Lunar and Tidal cycles. I suspect there IS a connection, but solar flares don't always mean Earthquakes any more than every Full Moon comes with a large quake. It can, but it doesn't happen every time.
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See Ben's recent video over at SuspiciousObservers on this topic. There is more concrete evidence that solar flares do in fact cause earthquakes, heart attacks, migraines, and seizures.
 
Mark D

Mark D

Now running for Emperor.
packyderms_wife said:
See Ben's recent video over at SuspiciousObservers on this topic. There is more concrete evidence that solar flares do in fact cause earthquakes, heart attacks, migraines, and seizures.
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There is a growing body of (international) evidence that supports that.

Along with the above, expect a statistically significant increase in car accidents, Emergency Room visits, strokes, psychological issues (and attendant Police calls), etc, etc, starting in four or five hours, and lasting all weekend... The war zones could get particularly spicy.
 
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ktrapper

Veteran Member
In March of 2002 the Northern Lights could be seen all the way to Alabama. In Alaska we had spectacular show of Red ones. I remember going to pee in the middle of the night and the living room was lit up with a red glow from outside. I got my wife up and we broke out the camera. We were just learning how to take pictures of them. Out of a roll of film she got one really good one. The sky looked as if it was on fire of sorts.
 
packyderms_wife

packyderms_wife

Neither here nor there.
Mark D said:
There is a growing body of (international) evidence that supports that.

Along with the above, expect a statistically significant increase in car accidents, Emergency Room visits, strokes, psychological issues (and attendant Police calls), etc, etc, starting in four or five hours, and lasting all weekend... The war zones could get particularly spicy.
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I'd say that people going off the deep end is the biggest threat we face with this event, so keep your head on a swivel everyone!
 
packyderms_wife

packyderms_wife

Neither here nor there.
I'm so excited!

US National Weather Service Des Moines Iowa​

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Conditions look favorable for Aurora viewing in Iowa tonight and sky conditions over the state are expected to become mostly clear. You can follow the Aurora forecast from the Space Weather Prediction Center at the link below. https://www.swpc.noaa.gov/.../aurora-viewline-tonight-and....

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helen

helen

Panic Sex Lady
ktrapper said:
In March of 2002 the Northern Lights could be seen all the way to Alabama. In Alaska we had spectacular show of Red ones. I remember going to pee in the middle of the night and the living room was lit up with a red glow from outside. I got my wife up and we broke out the camera. We were just learning how to take pictures of them. Out of a roll of film she got one really good one. The sky looked as if it was on fire of sorts.
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I remember that!
 
Millwright

Millwright

Knuckle Dragger
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Without gps, cell networks are probably ok as long as they don't have to reboot from power loss.

More to it, but that's the condensed answer.
 
Creeper

Creeper

Creeper
Don't forget the Great Quebec Blackout on March 13 1989!

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The Great Québec Blackout

March 13, 2021: They call it “the day the sun brought darkness.” On March 13, 1989, a powerful coronal mass ejection (CME) hit Earth’s magnetic field. Ninety seconds later, the Hy…
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The Great Québec Blackout​


March 12, 2021 / Dr.Tony Phillips


March 13, 2021: They call it “the day the sun brought darkness.” On March 13, 1989, a powerful coronal mass ejection (CME) hit Earth’s magnetic field. Ninety seconds later, the Hydro-Québec power grid failed. During the 9 hour blackout that followed, millions of Quebecois found themselves with no light or heat, wondering what was going on?
“It was the biggest geomagnetic storm of the Space Age,” says Dr. David Boteler, head of the Space Weather Group at Natural Resources Canada. “March 1989 has become the archetypal disturbance for understanding how solar activity can cause blackouts.”
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Above: Sunspot 5395, source of the March 1989 solar storm. From “A 21st Century View of the March 1989 Magnetic Storm” by D. Boteler.
It seems hard to believe now, but in 1989 few people realized solar storms could bring down power grids. The warning bells had been ringing for more than a century, though. In Sept. 1859, a similar CME hit Earth’s magnetic field–the infamous “Carrington Event“–sparking a storm twice as strong as March 1989. Electrical currents surged through Victorian-era telegraph wires, in some cases causing sparks and setting telegraph offices on fire. These were the same kind of currents that would bring down Hydro-Québec.
“The March 1989 blackout was a wake-up call for our industry,” says Dr. Emanuel Bernabeu of PJM, a regional utility that coordinates the flow of electricity in 13 US states. “Now we take geomagnetically induced currents (GICs) very seriously.”
What are GICs? Freshman physics 101: When a magnetic field swings back and forth, electricity flows through conductors in the area. It’s called “magnetic induction.” Geomagnetic storms do this to Earth itself. The rock and soil of our planet can conduct electricity. So when a CME rattles Earth’s magnetic field, currents flow through the soil beneath our feet.
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Above: Grey areas indicate regions of igneous rock where power grids are most vulnerable to geomagnetic storms.
Québec is especially vulnerable. The province sits on an expanse of Precambrian igneous rock that does a poor job conducting electricity. When the March 13th CME arrived, storm currents found a more attractive path in the high-voltage transmission lines of Hydro-Québec. Unusual frequencies (harmonics) began to flow through the lines, transformers overheated and circuit breakers tripped.
After darkness engulfed Quebec, bright auroras spread as far south as Florida, Texas, and Cuba. Reportedly, some onlookers thought they were witnessing a nuclear exchange. Others thought it had something to do with the space shuttle (STS-29), which remarkably launched on the same day. The astronauts were okay, although the shuttle did experience a mysterious problem with a fuel cell sensor that threatened to cut the mission short. NASA has never officially linked the sensor anomaly to the solar storm.
Much is still unknown about the March 1989 event. It occurred long before modern satellites were monitoring the sun 24/7. To piece together what happened, Boteler has sifted through old records of radio emissions, magnetograms, and other 80s-era data sources. He recently published a paper in the research journal Space Weather summarizing his findings — including a surprise:
“There were not one, but two CMEs,” he says.
The sunspot that hurled the CMEs toward Earth, region 5395, was one of the most active sunspot groups ever observed. In the days around the Quebec blackout it produced more than a dozen M- and X-class solar flares. Two of the explosions (an X4.5 on March 10th and an M7.3 on March 12th) targeted Earth with CMEs.
“The first CME cleared a path for the second CME, allowing it to strike with unusual force,” says Boteler. “The lights in Québec went out just minutes after it arrived.”
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Above: Auroras over Pershore, England, during the March 13, 1989, geomagnetic storm. Credit: Geoffrey Morley.
Among space weather researchers, there has been a dawning awareness in recent years that great geomagnetic storms such as the Carrington Event of 1859 and The Great Railroad Storm of May 1921 are associated with double (or multiple) CMEs, one clearing the path for another. Boteler’s detective work shows that this is the case for March 1989 as well.
The March 1989 event kicked off a flurry of conferences and engineering studies designed to fortify grids. Emanuel Bernabeu’s job at PJM is largely a result of that “Québec epiphany.” He works to protect power grids from space weather — and he has some good news.
“We have made lots of progress,” he says. “In fact, if the 1989 storm happened again today, I believe Québec would not lose power. The modern grid is designed to withstand an extreme 1-in-100 year geomagnetic event. To put that in perspective, March 1989 was only a 1-in-40 or 50 year event–well within our design specs.”
Some of the improvements have come about by hardening equipment. For instance, Bernabeu says, “Utilities have upgraded their protection and control devices making them immune to type of harmonics that brought down Hydro-Québec. Some utilities have also installed series capacitor compensation, which blocks the flow of GICs.”
Other improvements involve operational awareness. “We receive NOAA’s space weather forecast in our control room, so we know when a storm is coming,” he says. “For severe storms, we declare ‘conservative operations.’ In a nutshell, this is a way for us to posture the system to better handle the effects of geomagnetic activity. For instance, operators can limit large power transfers across critical corridors, cancel outages of critical equipment and so on.”
The next Québec-level storm is just a matter of time. In fact, we could be overdue. But, if Bernabeu is correct, the sun won’t bring darkness, only light.
 
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Profit of Doom

Dismember
Millwright said:
I asked because cell sites want GPS to come on the air.

It causes great wailing and gnashing of teeth when you knock out the GPS receiver.

I don't know if the system would go down if enough sats were disrupted.
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I believe it’s the precise time that is needed rather that precise location. The phones need to share the limited bandwidth by using discrete slices of time to send/receive without interfering with other phones/towers.
 
Millwright

Millwright

Knuckle Dragger
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Yes, its a time thing.

CDMA wanted constant signal. That gear has been sunsetted mostly.


LTE/5g can work with onboard timing, unless it reboots.
 
pauldingbabe

pauldingbabe

The Great Cat
Mark D said:
There is a growing body of (international) evidence that supports that.

Along with the above, expect a statistically significant increase in car accidents, Emergency Room visits, strokes, psychological issues (and attendant Police calls), etc, etc, starting in four or five hours, and lasting all weekend... The war zones could get particularly spicy.
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Plus a new moon
 
packyderms_wife

packyderms_wife

Neither here nor there.
WildDaisy said:
Whats with the high radiation in Canada? Holy Cow. There are a few spots in the US it is red too. Nuclear Power Plants?
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There's a scrolling message at the top of the page stating that they are. having issues with Google Pins on the Map and that Google is trying to fix the problem
 
Countrymouse

Countrymouse

Country exile in the city
Mark D said:
There is a growing body of (international) evidence that supports that.

Along with the above, expect a statistically significant increase in car accidents, Emergency Room visits, strokes, psychological issues (and attendant Police calls), etc, etc, starting in four or five hours, and lasting all weekend... The war zones could get particularly spicy.
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Especially with what's happening at the UN....... :(
 
packyderms_wife

packyderms_wife

Neither here nor there.
desertvet2 said:
Heart palps starting....or flutters.
And occasionally wooziness.

Maybe getting older, but it seems to go with the ear tones and natural phenomenons.
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Drink plenty of water, sit with your feet elevated if needed. Dehydration can exaggerate all sorts of things.

Seeker22 said:
I have three day old and two week old feral kittens outside. Lots of places to hide under. Will they make it okay? Asking you because you're a cat person.
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I'd imagine that they will be fine from any solar storms, hawks and owls not so much.
 
RememberGoliad

RememberGoliad

Veteran Member
ktrapper said:
In March of 2002 the Northern Lights could be seen all the way to Alabama. In Alaska we had spectacular show of Red ones. I remember going to pee in the middle of the night and the living room was lit up with a red glow from outside. I got my wife up and we broke out the camera. We were just learning how to take pictures of them. Out of a roll of film she got one really good one. The sky looked as if it was on fire of sorts.
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I read that wrong, and was wondering why in the world you were going to pee in the living room in the middle of the night???
 
Hfcomms

Hfcomms

EN66iq
If they are indicating a 'possibility' of a KP9 event then that is classified as Extreme;

Power systems: Widespread voltage control problems and protective system problems can occur, some grid systems may experience complete collapse or blackouts. Transformers may experience damage.

Spacecraft operations: May experience extensive surface charging, problems with orientation, uplink/downlink and tracking satellites.

Other systems: Pipeline currents can reach hundreds of amps, HF (high frequency) radio propagation may be impossible in many areas for one to two days, satellite navigation may be degraded for days, low-frequency radio navigation can be out for hours, and aurora has been seen as low as Florida and southern Texas (typically 40° geomagnetic lat.).
 
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