WTF?!? Obama comes to Tucson for memorial service; GOES BOWLING

Dennis Olson

Dennis Olson

Chief Curmudgeon
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Did anyone see the vid where His Holiness, in Tucson for the "tragic shooting" memorial service, takes time out to GO BOWLING???

I mean, seriously. WTF??!?!?!?


Every time the man should do something one way, he does it exactly the opposite. I never in my life heard of a president, in a place for a memorial service, takes time out to recreate.

The measure of the man has been taken, and he's a VERY "little man."
 
Dennis Olson

Dennis Olson

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My buddy told me that this was a vid from today, not from 2008. If he was wrong, I'll delete this thread.
 
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TerryK

TB Fanatic
Just when I thought he was behaving well. His speech was good and he didn't try to politicize the tragedy but going bowling is tacky.
 
kemosabe

kemosabe

Doooooooooom !
It's RACCCCISSSSSSSSSS!!


black ball knockin down a bunch of white pins ..



RACCCCCIIIISSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!


LOL /sarcasm


ya if true.. truly tacky ... but what else have we come to expect from the man?











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Dennis Olson

Dennis Olson

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eaglefeather said:
as if it is fact...
without the facts ...

Is really beneath the owner of this board.... imho
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My buddy (whose word I trust) said it was from TODAY. I didn't see it, but was so offended that I had to post it. If ANYONE has seen the vid, and if it IS NOT FROM TODAY, I will immediately remove this thread.
 
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NC Susan

Deceased
we KNEW this, when Obama choose to shoot hoops with the memorial flowers for the Ground Zero memorial flowers in 2008
 
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NC Susan

Deceased
what people say in Arizona is not getting out to the rest of the citizens in other States. Seems to me, the media is picking and loosing alot of information.
 
Dennis Olson

Dennis Olson

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Well, if anyone can debunk this, please do. As much as I hate His Holiness, I will not leave something up that is patently untrue.
 
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Nerdling

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Dennis Olson said:
Well, if anyone can debunk this, please do. As much as I hate His Holiness, I will not leave something up that is patently untrue.
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But you will leave up something that you have no idea is true or has any basis in fact whatsoever?

From the pool reports, after AF1 was wheels down in AZ he went to the hospital, then to the memorial, and was wheels up for Andrews AFB at 22:04 EST.

In situations like this perhaps the burden of proof should be on the poster, it's not sporting for one to do a drive-by on someone, as disliked as he is here, and expect others to prove it wrong.
 
DelRayMan

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I saw this on the the news Wed. night, did not know if it was a clip from the past. Why would they show a clip of him bowling in the past when talking about the AZ incident and his trip there. I don't know.

I saw it, I was offended by it, I reported it.
 
maric

maric

Short but deadly
No surprise here if he went bowling. Afterall his wifey wore a WHITE sweater to the memorial service. WHITE? And a smile across her fugly mug too. No class, none at all.
 
denfoote

denfoote

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OK.
I'm gonna put this to bed if I can.
Without mentioning the fact that the President of the United States travels on a tight schedule and everywhere he stops has to be vetted by the Secret Service, I have an e-mail to the news department of KFYI radio here in Phoenix. If Obama went bowling while in Tucson, they should be able to confirm it.
 
Greenspode

Greenspode

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maric said:
No surprise here if he went bowling. Afterall his wifey wore a WHITE sweater to the memorial service. WHITE? And a smile across her fugly mug too. No class, none at all.
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OK everyone, I need some clarification here.

It seems that my family and everyone I know has been doing things wrong all our lives, and I want to make sure I have this right before I approach family members about it.

In our family, a funeral is a somber event, and one wears dark, conservative clothing and behaves appropriately.

A memorial service is a joyous occasion to celebrate the life of the loved one....we share stories and memories, it is a celebration.

I wore a flowered dress to my Mothers memorial service, and an emerald green pant suit to my sisters. I have been to many memorial services, included a numer for fallen service men and women, and they always have a completely different vibe than a funeral.

Are we doing something wrong? Have we disrespected our loved ones? I am ready to go chew out my Father right now for raising us that we are to celebrate our loved ones in this manner.

I had no idea a memorial service was supposed to be treated like a funeral.

Is there a book or something somewhere so I can prove to everyone I know that we have been behaving with "no class" all our lives?
 
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big kumara

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Originally Posted by maric

No surprise here if he went bowling. Afterall his wifey wore a WHITE sweater to the memorial service. WHITE? And a smile across her fugly mug too. No class, none at all.


OK everyone, I need some clarification here.

It seems that my family and everyone I know has been doing things wrong all our lives, and I want to make sure I have this right before I approach family members about it.

In our family, a funeral is a somber event, and one wears dark, conservative clothing and behaves appropriately.

A memorial service is a joyous occasion to celebrate the life of the loved one....we share stories and memories, it is a celebration.

I wore a flowered dress to my Mothers memorial service, and an emerald green pant suit to my sisters. I have been to many memorial services, included a numer for fallen service men and women, and they always have a completely different vibe than a funeral.

Are we doing something wrong? Have we disrespected our loved ones? I am ready to go chew out my Father right now for raising us that we are to celebrate our loved ones in this manner.

I had no idea a memorial service was supposed to be treated like a funeral.

Is there a book or something somewhere so I can prove to everyone I know that we have been behaving with "no class" all our lives?
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Greenspode is correct. Wearing colors other than black at a memorial service is appropriate.
 
maric

maric

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big kumara said:
Greenspode is correct. Wearing colors other than black at a memorial service is appropriate.
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But white? Even if it was a light color then fine but white seems out of place at a memorial. Sorry but I see this as somber event, not the pep rally it turned into.
 
minkykat

minkykat

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Just to point something out: the difference between a funeral and a memorial service is not what colors you wear, songs you sing or stories you tell and how loud or not you shout; the difference is whether or not the decedent is present.

Guest of honor is present; funeral.

Guest is absent from the location; memorial service.

How you chose to conduct said service is up to you, your beliefs and background.

And as much as I hate like heck to defend even one atom of the first bee....bee-keeper, white can also be used as a mourning color especially if one is mourning the loss of a child. White paired with black is acceptable as are most purples, (traditional color prior to 19th century).

To be honest, in this day and age, there simply aren't any real hard and fast rules when it comes to a funeral.
 
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Grammytomany

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maric said:
No surprise here if he went bowling. Afterall his wifey wore a WHITE sweater to the memorial service. WHITE? And a smile across her fugly mug too. No class, none at all.
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I did not see what she was wearing and I would not watch his speech. But White is the non-color in summer mourning. Black in winter mourning. GTM
 
DelRayMan

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first of all, this is a state event attended by the president of the united states. this needs to have a higher level of proper dignity of which the POTUS and his family know nothing about.

As far as I know, you have the memorial service, then the actual burial, then you have a get together at a home. Normally people do not go home and change into different outfits between one event to another. black is what is appropriate. I have never seen people go home and change into a flowered dress or Bermuda shorts and a Hawaiian shirt.

I am not saying it is wrong, I am saying I have not seen it. The big difference is a private gathering and a state sponsored event.
The POTUS and his minions should have been TOLD what is appropriate. They probably were told but she has no respect and no dignity and no class.

IMO, there were no dead or injured black folks nor muslims. She and her husband really did not care. I feel that they attended only out of a sense of political necessity and their advisors probably pressured them to attend. Just IMHO.
 
NoName

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DelRayMan said:
IMO, there were no dead or injured black folks nor muslims. She and her husband really did not care. I feel that they attended only out of a sense of political necessity and their advisors probably pressured them to attend. Just IMHO.
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I agree and will go one better, probably had to hire extras SS to hold him back from doin a snoopy dance at the thought of having another crisis to not waste...how can this tragedy futher the "Fundemental Change" of the US. That's why he was there, that's why he talked for as long as he did, up to four times longer than any recent Pres at a memorial according to Rush today.
 
mt4design

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I don't know why a news organization would show Obama bowling when the story is about a memorial service in Arizona for the victims of the recent rampage.

I did find that Obama actually went bowling very recently - in December while in Hawaii.

Hitting the lanes

Obama tries bowling again

By CAROL E. LEE | 12/27/10 7:44 PM Updated: 12/27/10 10:26 PM

http://www.politico.com/politico44/...nes_e831c82a-d1da-49d7-bf98-e0cdfb1f2bf4.html

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It's the first time Obama has been bowling outside of the White House since taking office. AP Photo

HONOLULU – On a rainy day in Hawaii, President Obama opted for an indoor sport that made him instant fodder for late-night comedians during the 2008 campaign: Bowling.
 
Greenspode

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I just don't get it.

I have never been to a memorial service that was held even the same day as a funeral. My sisters was held days after her funeral. It was held at a local park. We had a picnic. And balloons. My Mothers was held two weeks after her death and there was no funeral. It was held at a local pavillion. If we were all supposed to wear black, no one told us. And it's not like we sent out a dress code. There were hundreds at both events, and I don't recall anyone wearing black. Clearly, both we and the guests did not know the rules.

I can't find anything on the internet saying that white is an inappropriate color to wear to a memorial service.

A memorial service, then a funeral, then a get together at a home, all in one day?? I have never heard of such a thing. Not saying it does not happen, but I have never heard of it.

I guess my question is, if there is a proper protocall to the order of things and dress codes for each, why is it kept a secret?? I mean, everyone knows that one wears conservative clothes to a funeral, but how would one know that conservtive clothes are also expected at, what is for all intents and purposes, a celebration?? How would one know this? Who made this rule??

I tell ya, the rules and regulations that one must follow in this country, in order to not be called "low class", or worse, is getting ridiculous. I thought this was a conservative site, and I thought conservatives were about freedom, but now we have rules about what one is supposed to wear to a celebration of someones life? We have rules that a celebration of life is supposed to be a somber event? My loved ones lives were not somber, so why would we have a somber memorial service? We have rules about the COLOR of clothes that one wears? Really??

I just don't get it.
 
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Fred

Middle of the road
I'd comment on this, but I need to go mock some Muslims for their silly outrage over inconsequential things.
 
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VesperSparrow

Goin' where the lonely go
I'll just tell ya...I'll wear what I have to wear no matter the color. I am far too old to care about what others are thinking about me.
 
Flippper

Flippper

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Greenspode, we do the service at the funeral home, then go to the gravesite for graveside services and burial, wake to follow if the family is up to it. Nearly always on the same day. Use to be the hearse left the funeral home followed by all vehicles with their headlights on to signify they were part of the funeral party. Any car trying to pass the cavalcade is committing a crime and can be ticketed. I've noticed lately very few processions use their headlights anymore, and are less likely to even be in order. Police used to stop traffic for these events, not anymore.

I doubt even obama would go bowling in Tuscon, the cheering for his political speech at the services was tactless enough to satisfy him, I suspect. Maintaining his political image and dirtying his opponents' is uppermost in his agenda for the moment, even if he has to get national attention on the backs of the dead.
 
Greenspode

Greenspode

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Flippper said:
Greenspode, we do the service at the funeral home, then go to the gravesite for graveside services and burial, wake to follow if the family is up to it. Nearly always on the same day. Use to be the hearse left the funeral home followed by all vehicles with their headlights on to signify they were part of the funeral party. Any car trying to pass the cavalcade is committing a crime and can be ticketed. I've noticed lately very few processions use their headlights anymore, and are less likely to even be in order. Police used to stop traffic for these events, not anymore.

I doubt even obama would go bowling in Tuscon, the cheering for his political speech at the services was tactless enough to satisfy him, I suspect. Maintaining his political image and dirtying his opponents' is uppermost in his agenda for the moment, even if he has to get national attention on the backs of the dead.
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We do that too, but we call it a funeral. Memorial service is a whole different thing.

Anyway, guess it is just a matter of local traditions or whatever.

Just seems a silly thing to try to make hay out of. Like there is not enough to worry about here, we have the clothing police worrying about the color that someone wears. Hardly seems like a slow enough news week to pick something so ridiculous to comment on. Seems the Liberals are not the only ones who want to control what their comrades are up to. No white clothes for you!!
 
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