CRISIS 12/05: THE GULF OF MEXICO IS DYING

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I am posting the article alone - It deserves it!! And I have purposely not cleaned up the captions of the many photos (which are present with the original artilce ~ The readers needs to see them


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The Gulf of Mexico is Dying, Special Report on the BP Gulf Oil Spill

Politics / Environmental Issues
Dec 05, 2010 - 04:11 AM

By: Dr_Tom_Termotto
http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/Article24775.html

It is with deep regret that we publish this report. We do not take this responsibility lightly, as the consequences of the following observations are of such great import and have such far-reaching ramifications for the entire planet. Truly, the fate of the oceans of the world hangs in the balance, as does the future of humankind.



The Gulf of Mexico (GOM) does not exist in isolation and is, in fact, connected to the Seven Seas. Hence, we publish these findings in order that the world community will come together to further contemplate this dire and demanding predicament. We also do so with the hope that an appropriate global response will be formulated, and acted upon, for the sake of future generations. It is the most basic responsibility for every civilization to leave their world in a better condition than that which they inherited from their forbears.


After conducting the Gulf Oil Spill Remediation Conference for over seven months, we can now disseminate the following information with the authority and confidence of those who have thoroughly investigated a crime scene. There are many research articles, investigative reports and penetrating exposes archived at the following website. Particularly those posted from August through November provide a unique body of evidence, many with compelling photo-documentaries, which portray the true state of affairs at the Macondo Prospect in the GOM.

http://phoenixrisingfromthegulf.wordpress.com/



The pictorial evidence tells the whole story.

Especially that the BP narrative is nothing but a corporate-created illusion – a web of fabrication spun in collaboration with the US Federal Government and Mainstream Media. Big Oil, as well as the Military-Industrial Complex, have aided and abetted this whole scheme and info blackout because the very future of the Oil & Gas Industry is at stake, as is the future of the US Empire which sprawls around the world and requires vast amounts of hydrocarbon fuel.

Should the truth seep out and into the mass consciousness – that the GOM is slowly but surely filling up with oil and gas – certainly many would rightly question the integrity, and sanity, of the whole venture, as well as the entire industry itself. And then perhaps the process would begin of transitioning the planet away from the hydrocarbon fuel paradigm altogether.



It’s not a pretty picture.

The various pictures, photos and diagrams that fill the many articles at the aforementioned website represent photo-evidence about the true state of affairs on the seafloor surrounding the Macondo Prospect in the Mississippi Canyon which is located in the Central Planning Area of the northern Gulf of Mexico. The very dynamics of the dramatic changes and continuous evolution of the seafloor have been captured in ways that very few have ever seen. These snapshots have given us a window of understanding into the true state of the underlying geological formations around the various wells drilled in the Macondo Prospect.

Although our many deductions may be difficult for the layperson to apprehend at first, to the trained eye these are but obvious conclusions which are simply the result of cause and effect. In other words there is no dispute around the most serious geological changes which have occurred, and continue to occur, in the region around the Macondo wells. The original predicament (an 87 day gushing well) was extremely serious, as grasped by the entire world, and the existing situation is only going to get progressively worse.

So, just what does this current picture look like. Please click on the link below to view the relevant diagrams and read the commentary:

http://phoenixrisingfromthegulf.wor...the-bp-gulf-oil-well-at-the-macondo-prospect/



As the diagrams clearly indicate, the geology around the well bore has been blown. This occurred because of drilling contiguous to a salt dome(1), as well as because of the gas explosions which did much damage to the integrity of the well casing, cementing, well bore, well head, and foundation around the well head. Eighty-seven straight days of gushing hydrocarbon effluent under great pressure only served to further undermine the entire well system. Finally, when it was capped, putting the system back under pressure forced the upsurging hydrocarbons to find weaknesses throughout the greater system, which revealed all sorts of compromised, fractured and unsettled geology through which the hydrocarbons could travel all the way to the seafloor and into the GOM.

(1)“The rock beds in the vicinity of a salt dome are highly fractured and permeable due to stress and deformation which occur as the salt dome thrusted upwards.” (Per BK Lim, Geohazards Specialist)

We also have faults* to deal with in this scenario of which there are both deep and shallow. Depending on the current vital stats of the blown out well, especially its actual depth; the number, location and severity of the breaches throughout the well system; the pressure at the wellhead; as well as the type and status of geological formations/strata it has been drilled into, these faults will become prominently configured into the future stability of the whole region. Larger faults can open up much greater opportunities for the hydrocarbons to find their way to the seafloor via cracks and crevices, craters and chasms. In fact the numerous leaks and seeps throughout the seafloor surface, which are quite apparent from various ROV live-feeds, give testimony to sub-seafloor geological formations in great turmoil and undergoing unprecedented flux.

*“Once the oil gets into the shallow faulted zones, we have an uncontrollable situation. The place where most of the oil and gas is coming out is at the foot hills of the continental shelf as shown in figure 134-1 in the article “BP continues to dazzle us with their unlimited magic”. The discovery by WHOI of the 22 mile long river of oil originated from these leaks. So the leaks will be mainly along the faults where I have marked (shallow) in “What is going on at West Sirius” and deep strike-slip faults (red line) on fig 134-1.” (Per BK Lim, Geohazards Specialist)

Just how bad is this situation? There are actually three different ongoing disasters – each more grave and challenging than the previous one – which must be considered when assessing the awesome destruction to the GOM by the Oil & Gas Industry.

I. A single gushing well at 7o – 100,000 barrels per day of hydrocarbon effluent for 87 days into the GOM at the Macondo Prospect along with two smaller rogue wells

II. Numerous leaks and seeps within five to ten square miles of the Macondo well with an aggregate outflow of an unknown amount of hydrocarbon effluent per day into the GOM

III. Countless gushers and spills, leaks and seeps, throughout the Gulf of Mexico, where drilling has been conducted for many decades, with an aggregate outflow that can not even be estimated, but is well in excess of any guesstimate which would ensure the slow and steady demise of the GOM.



It is the last scenario which we all face and to which there is no easy or obvious solution. The truth be told, there currently does not exist the technology or machinery or equipment to repair the damage that has been wrought by the process of deep undersea drilling, especially when it is performed in the wrong place. Therefore, wherever the oil and gas find points of entry into the GOM through the seafloor, these leaks and seeps will only continue to get worse. Here’s why:

Methane gas mixed with saltwater and mud makes for a very potent corrosive agent. Under high pressure it will find every point of egress through the rock and sediment formations all the way up to the seafloor where it will find any point of exit that is available. The longer and more forcefully that it flows throughout the fractured area, which is dependent on the volume, temperature and pressure at the source of the hydrocarbons, the more its corrosive effects will widen, broaden and enlarge the channels, cracks and crevices throughout the sub-seafloor geology, thereby creating a predicament that no science, technology or equipment can remedy.

Dire realities of the methane hydrate predicament

The Macondo Prospect in the GOM is just one of many throughout the oceans of the world where the seafloor has beds of methane hydrate locked in place by very high pressure and low temperatures. Likewise, there are myriad repositories and large “reservoirs” of methane clathrates in the sub-seafloor strata, and especially within the more superficial geological formations, which are being greatly impacted by all oil and gas drilling and extraction activities. It does not take much imagination to understand how the upsurging hydrocarbons (very hot oil and gas) are quickly converting the frozen hydrates to gas, thereby causing innumerable “micro-displacements”, the cumulative effect of which will translate to larger “macro-displacements” of rock, sediment and other geological formations.

When you factor in this constant vaporization of methane hydrates/clathrates both sub-seafloor as well as those scattered around the seafloor surface to the existing scenario, this devolving situation becomes that much more difficult to effectively remedy. With the resulting shifts and resettling and reconfiguration of the entire seafloor terrain and underlying strata occurring in the wake of these dynamics, we are left with a situation that is not going to get better through the use of even more invasive technology and intrusive machinery.



Question: How many times can you grout a seafloor crack that was caused by an underlying superficial fault after drilling into an old mud volcano?

Answer: “In the attempt to seal the oil from oozing through the faults, BP resorted to high pressure grouting. Basically it is like cementing the cracks in the rock by injecting grout (cement mixture) at high pressure. The way they do this is by drilling an injection hole into the shallow rocks and pumping in the grout. The grout in “slurry” state will permeate into the cracks, cure and seal up the cracks. However it is not working because of the presence of gas and oil. It is like super-glue. You need to clean the surfaces before you apply the glue; otherwise it won’t stick and will come off eventually after a few days or weeks.

That is why we can see a few blown out craters – shown in my article – Is the last rite for the Macondo Well for real?” (Per BK Lim, Geohazards Specialist)

Likewise, how do you fill a newly emerging gash in the seafloor which is caused by a deep fault due to low level seismic activity, or worse, a full blown earthquake?!

Seismic activity in the GOM and the uptick in earthquakes in the Mississippi River Basin and surrounding region


The oil and gas platforms that were in operation throughout the northern Gulf of Mexico in 2006 (per Wikipedia).

We now come to the most serious issue regarding the relentless drilling for oil and gas throughout the Gulf of Mexico. The map above clearly illustrates the density of drilling throughout the northern GOM as of 2006. Likewise, the map below demonstrates the extraordinary and increasing intensity of these very same operations off the coast of Louisiana alone.


Green lines represent active pipes (25,000 miles in all). Yellow dots represent oil rigs.

The map that follows, however, tells a story which demands the attention of every resident of the GOM coastline. The video link below the map shows the development timeline of the successively deeper wells being drilled during the last decade. Of course, with greater depths come much greater risks, as the technology and machinery have not been proportionately upgraded to accommodate the extraordinary demands and unforeseen contingencies of such a speculative and dangerous enterprise*.

*Oil and gas drilling in seawater depths of over 4000 feet, and through 15,000 to 25,000 feet of the earth’s crust and mantle, is considered extremely dangerous to those from whom reason and common sense have not yet fled.





It’s critical to understand the location and current activity of the various faults which exist throughout the GOM and how they connect to the New Madrid Fault Line, as well as other major faults at much greater distance. There does appear to be a emerging uptick in earthquake activity in the greater Louisiana area, as well as contiguous regions in the GOM as demonstrated by unprecedented, albeit low level earthquakes. Correlations between these earthquakes/seismic activity and major operations at the Macondo Prospect have been alluded to in our previous postings.

Continues here http://phoenixrisingfromthegulf.wordpress.com/2010/12/01/the-gulf-of-mexico-is-dying/

Dr. Tom Termotto
National Coordinator
Gulf Oil Spill Remediation Conference (International Citizens’ Initiative)
Tallahassee, FL





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Part II​
For Fair Use: Discussion

A Special Report on the BP Gulf Oil Spill
By Dr. Tom Termotto
http://www.opednews.com/author/author49908.html

It is with deep regret that we publish this report. We do not take this responsibility lightly, as the consequences of the following observations are of such great import and have such far-reaching ramifications for the entire planet. Truly, the fate of the oceans of the world hangs in the balance, as does the future of humankind.

The Gulf of Mexico (GOM) does not exist in isolation and is, in fact, connected to the Seven Seas. Hence, we publish these findings in order that the world community will come together to further contemplate this dire and demanding predicament. We also do so with the hope that an appropriate global response will be formulated, and acted upon, for the sake of future generations. It is the most basic responsibility for every civilization to leave their world in a better condition than that which they inherited from their forbears.


After conducting the Gulf Oil Spill Remediation Conference for over seven months, we can now disseminate the following information with the authority and confidence of those who have thoroughly investigated a crime scene. There are many research articles, investigative reports and penetrating exposes archived at the following website. Particularly those posted from August through November provide a unique body of evidence, many with compelling photo-documentaries, which portray the true state of affairs at the Macondo Prospect in the GOM.

http://phoenixrisingfromthegulf.wordpress.com/


The pictorial evidence tells the whole story.

Especially that the BP narrative is nothing but a corporate-created illusion – a web of fabrication spun in collaboration with the US Federal Government and Mainstream Media. Big Oil, as well as the Military-Industrial Complex, have aided and abetted this whole scheme and info blackout because the very future of the Oil & Gas Industry is at stake, as is the future of the US Empire which sprawls around the world and requires vast amounts of hydrocarbon fuel.
Should the truth seep out and into the mass consciousness – that the GOM is slowly but surely filling up with oil and gas – certainly many would rightly question the integrity, and sanity, of the whole venture, as well as the entire industry itself. And then perhaps the process would begin of transitioning the planet away from the hydrocarbon fuel paradigm altogether.

It’s not a pretty picture.

The various pictures, photos and diagrams that fill the many articles at the aforementioned website represent photo-evidence about the true state of affairs on the seafloor surrounding the Macondo Prospect in the Mississippi Canyon which is located in the Central Planning Area of the northern Gulf of Mexico. The very dynamics of the dramatic changes and continuous evolution of the seafloor have been captured in ways that very few have ever seen. These snapshots have given us a window of understanding into the true state of the underlying geological formations around the various wells drilled in the Macondo Prospect.

Although our many deductions may be difficult for the layperson to apprehend at first, to the trained eye these are but obvious conclusions which are simply the result of cause and effect. In other words there is no dispute around the most serious geological changes which have occurred, and continue to occur, in the region around the Macondo wells. The original predicament (an 87 day gushing well) was extremely serious, as grasped by the entire world, and the existing situation is only going to get progressively worse.

So, just what does this current picture look like. Please click on the link below to view the relevant diagrams and read the commentary:

http://phoenixrisingfromthegulf.wor...the-bp-gulf-oil-well-at-the-macondo-prospect/


As the diagrams clearly indicate, the geology around the well bore has been blown. This occurred because of drilling contiguous to a salt dome(1), as well as because of the gas explosions which did much damage to the integrity of the well casing, cementing, well bore, well head, and foundation around the well head. Eighty-seven straight days of gushing hydrocarbon effluent under great pressure only served to further undermine the entire well system. Finally, when it was capped, putting the system back under pressure forced the upsurging hydrocarbons to find weaknesses throughout the greater system, which revealed all sorts of compromised, fractured and unsettled geology through which the hydrocarbons could travel all the way to the seafloor and into the GOM.


(1)“The rock beds in the vicinity of a salt dome are highly fractured and permeable due to stress and deformation which occur as the salt dome thrusted upwards.” (Per BK Lim, Geohazards Specialist)

We also have faults* to deal with in this scenario of which there are both deep and shallow. Depending on the current vital stats of the blown out well, especially its actual depth; the number, location and severity of the breaches throughout the well system; the pressure at the wellhead; as well as the type and status of geological formations/strata it has been drilled into, these faults will become prominently configured into the future stability of the whole region. Larger faults can open up much greater opportunities for the hydrocarbons to find their way to the seafloor via cracks and crevices, craters and chasms. In fact the numerous leaks and seeps throughout the seafloor surface, which are quite apparent from various ROV live-feeds, give testimony to sub-seafloor geological formations in great turmoil and undergoing unprecedented flux.

*“Once the oil gets into the shallow faulted zones, we have an uncontrollable situation. The place where most of the oil and gas is coming out is at the foot hills of the continental shelf as shown in figure 134-1 in the article “BP continues to dazzle us with their unlimited magic”. The discovery by WHOI of the 22 mile long river of oil originated from these leaks. So the leaks will be mainly along the faults where I have marked (shallow) in “What is going on at West Sirius” and deep strike-slip faults (red line) on fig 134-1.” (Per BK Lim, Geohazards Specialist)

Just how bad is this situation? There are actually three different ongoing disasters – each more grave and challenging than the previous one – which must be considered when assessing the awesome destruction to the GOM by the Oil & Gas Industry.

I. A single gushing well at 7o – 100,000 barrels per day of hydrocarbon effluent for 87 days into the GOM at the Macondo Prospect along with two smaller rogue wells

II. Numerous leaks and seeps within five to ten square miles of the Macondo well with an aggregate outflow of an unknown amount of hydrocarbon effluent per day into the GOM

III. Countless gushers and spills, leaks and seeps, throughout the Gulf of Mexico, where drilling has been conducted for many decades, with an aggregate outflow that can not even be estimated, but is well in excess of any guesstimate which would ensure the slow and steady demise of the GOM.



It is the last scenario which we all face and to which there is no easy or obvious solution. The truth be told, there currently does not exist the technology or machinery or equipment to repair the damage that has been wrought by the process of deep undersea drilling, especially when it is performed in the wrong place. Therefore, wherever the oil and gas find points of entry into the GOM through the seafloor, these leaks and seeps will only continue to get worse. Here’s why:

Methane gas mixed with saltwater and mud makes for a very potent corrosive agent. Under high pressure it will find every point of egress through the rock and sediment formations all the way up to the seafloor where it will find any point of exit that is available. The longer and more forcefully that it flows throughout the fractured area, which is dependent on the volume, temperature and pressure at the source of the hydrocarbons, the more its corrosive effects will widen, broaden and enlarge the channels, cracks and crevices throughout the sub-seafloor geology, thereby creating a predicament that no science, technology or equipment can remedy.

Dire realities of the methane hydrate predicament

The Macondo Prospect in the GOM is just one of many throughout the oceans of the world where the seafloor has beds of methane hydrate locked in place by very high pressure and low temperatures. Likewise, there are myriad repositories and large “reservoirs” of methane clathrates in the sub-seafloor strata, and especially within the more superficial geological formations, which are being greatly impacted by all oil and gas drilling and extraction activities. It does not take much imagination to understand how the upsurging hydrocarbons (very hot oil and gas) are quickly converting the frozen hydrates to gas, thereby causing innumerable “micro-displacements”, the cumulative effect of which will translate to larger “macro-displacements” of rock, sediment and other geological formations.

When you factor in this constant vaporization of methane hydrates/clathrates both sub-seafloor as well as those scattered around the seafloor surface to the existing scenario, this devolving situation becomes that much more difficult to effectively remedy. With the resulting shifts and resettling and reconfiguration of the entire seafloor terrain and underlying strata occurring in the wake of these dynamics, we are left with a situation that is not going to get better through the use of even more invasive technology and intrusive machinery.



Question: How many times can you grout a seafloor crack that was caused by an underlying superficial fault after drilling into an old mud volcano?
Answer: “In the attempt to seal the oil from oozing through the faults, BP resorted to high pressure grouting. Basically it is like cementing the cracks in the rock by injecting grout (cement mixture) at high pressure. The way they do this is by drilling an injection hole into the shallow rocks and pumping in the grout. The grout in “slurry” state will permeate into the cracks, cure and seal up the cracks. However it is not working because of the presence of gas and oil. It is like super-glue. You need to clean the surfaces before you apply the glue; otherwise it won’t stick and will come off eventually after a few days or weeks.
That is why we can see a few blown out craters – shown in my article – Is the last rite for the Macondo Well for real?” (Per BK Lim, Geohazards Specialist)

Likewise, how do you fill a newly emerging gash in the seafloor which is caused by a deep fault due to low level seismic activity, or worse, a full blown earthquake?!

Seismic activity in the GOM and the uptick in earthquakes in the
Mississippi River Basin and surrounding region


The oil and gas platforms that were in operation throughout the northern Gulf of Mexico in 2006 (per Wikipedia).

We now come to the most serious issue regarding the relentless drilling for oil and gas throughout the Gulf of Mexico. The map above clearly illustrates the density of drilling throughout the northern GOM as of 2006. Likewise, the map below demonstrates the extraordinary and increasing intensity of these very same operations off the coast of Louisiana alone.


Green lines represent active pipes (25,000 miles in all). Yellow dots represent oil rigs.

The map that follows, however, tells a story which demands the attention of every resident of the GOM coastline. The video link below the map shows the development timeline of the successively deeper wells being drilled during the last decade. Of course, with greater depths come much greater risks, as the technology and machinery have not been proportionately upgraded to accommodate the extraordinary demands and unforeseen contingencies of such a speculative and dangerous enterprise*.

*Oil and gas drilling in seawater depths of over 4000 feet, and through 15,000 to 25,000 feet of the earth’s crust and mantle, is considered extremely dangerous to those from whom reason and common sense have not yet fled.

Click on the map to enlarge.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bh_wNVUx9SI

It’s critical to understand the location and current activity of the various faults which exist throughout the GOM and how they connect to the New Madrid Fault Line, as well as other major faults at much greater distance. There does appear to be a emerging uptick in earthquake activity in the greater Louisiana area, as well as contiguous regions in the GOM as demonstrated by unprecedented, albeit low level earthquakes. Correlations between these earthquakes/seismic activity and major operations at the Macondo Prospect have been alluded to in our previous postings.

Earthquake Activity in Gulf of Mexico Prompts 2003 Study for MMS
Gulf of Mexico Subsea Structures May Be in Seismic Danger Zone – Part 2
Now then, the question remains just how vulnerable has the GOM been made to a truly catastrophic event, ending up with an overwhelming displacement of water producing tidal waves, in the aftermath of an undersea earthquake.
There is no question that the ceaseless fracturing of the seafloor and fissuring of the sub-seafloor geology by the Oil & Gas Industry has set up a quite conducive environment for HUGE unintended consequences. We leave it up to the experts to conduct the necessary risk assessments, which will most assuredly let loose a sea of red flags about what Big Oil has done, and is currently doing, in the Gulf of Mexico. Furthermore, we are deeply concerned that, if a permanent moratorium on all new oil and gas drilling and extraction in the GOM is not put into place poste haste, the coastal communities will remain in a very precarious situation.

Worsening GOM predicament is reflective of the status quo around the globe.

Now consider the following scenario: that this very same predicament, which we have all witnessed in the Gulf of Mexico, is happening wherever oil and gas drilling is conducted in the various water bodies throughout the planet. Therefore we can multiply the Macondo Prospect disaster a hundred times and still not come close to the impacts that these ongoing gushers and spills, leaks and seeps are having the world over.

Perhaps the BP Gulf Oil Spill was the defining moment in modern history when all the nations of the world community were called by Mother Earth herself to begin transitioning the planet away from the Hydrocarbon Fuel Paradigm. After all, we may never get another chance!

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Trans...n-Fuel-Paradigm/154984831192787?v=wall&ref=ts

Tom Termotto
Gulf Oil Spill Remediation Conference
OilSpillSolution@comcast.net
SKYPE: Gulf_Advocate
http://oilspillsolutionsnow.org/



Author’s Note: This short reality check was made possible by BK Lim, Geohazards Specialist, whose research and analysis of the BP Gulf Oil Spill have proved invaluable to ferreting out the truth of this unprecedented environmental devastation.
BK provided figures 137-06, 136-3, and 137-01 including the commentary, which only an experienced and highly skilled geohazards expert could furnish with authority. He is also responsible for most of the articles/essays referred to and linked to in this post.

ADDENDUM:
There are two very significant topics, which have been not been discussed in this report, that beg for acknowledgement and further attention in light of the title:
The Gulf of Mexico is Dying.
Both of these problems are highly consequential and therefore merit separate papers in order to give them the treatment they deserve, if we are to understand why the GOM is slowly dying. Until those papers are completed, we offer the following short summaries:

#1 The wanton and indiscriminate use of the dispersant, Corexit, turned an extremely serious disaster into an unmitigated catastrophe.

How many times have we all heard that dispersed oil is at least four times more toxic than oil alone? Here are the test results from the EPA study, as well as the EPA link:

(1) 10.72 parts per million (ppm) of oil alone will kill 50% of the fish test species in a normal aquatic environment within 96 hours.
(2) 25.20 parts per million of dispersant (Corexit 9500) alone will kill 50% of the fish test species in a normal aquatic environment within 96 hours.
(3) 2.61 parts per million of dispersed oil (Corexit-laden) alone will kill 50% of the fish test species in a normal aquatic environment within 96 hours.

http://www.epa.gov/oem/content/ncp/tox_tables.htm

“Crude oil has proven toxicity at 1 part per million, with constituents like benzene exhibiting genotoxicity in the parts per billion range. The dispersants have made the oil “disappear,” according to the mainstream media, and yet we have marine toxicology documents PROVING that the dispersants PREVENT the natural break…down of some constituents of the oil, e.g. the lesser soluble hydrocarbons such as naphthalene.” (Per Gulf Oil Spill Truth)


Not only is the dispersed oil much more toxic, it is now virtually impossible to remediate in its current micronized or nano-sized state. Disappeared they did to the oil, and so did they to the various technologies and methodologies which would have been effective in cleaning up oil alone. Now we are left with a predicament that requires a form of mitigation which must be conceived, before it can be tried and tested.

In the meantime the entire GOM food chain (including those who continue to eat the seafood) is concentrating these newly formed toxic byproducts in their tissues, the effects of which will gradually wend their way through the bodies of each and every organism that is exposed to them. Just how poisonous to life dispersed oil is we may not know for years, nor does any government-funded research institution seem to be in a hurry to find out!

Both Corexit 9500 and 9527 were sprayed liberally for many months both on the GOM surface, as well as undersea. The officially reported amount is shown below; the covert spraying continues to this very day in volumes which can only be determined by reviewing the disbursement records at Nalco Holding Company. The photo above (Fig. 137-06) , in addition to much anecdotal evidence, unequivocally demonstrates continued dispersant use up to this very day, which therefore indicates a much higher volume used throughout the GOM.

Surface dispersant used: 1, 072,514 gallons
Subsea dispersant used: 771,272 gallons
Total dispersant used: 1,843,786 gallons

Consider what Wikipedia has to say about 9527: “Corexit 9527, considered by the EPA to be an acute health hazard, is stated by its manufacturer to be potentially harmful to red blood cells, the kidneys and the liver, and may irritate eyes and skin.[14][24] The chemical 2-butoxyethanol, found in Corexit 9527, was identified as having caused lasting health problems in workers involved in the cleanup of the Exxon Valdez oil spill.[25] According to the Alaska Community Action on Toxics, the use of Corexit during the Exxon Valdez oil spill caused people “respiratory, nervous system, liver, kidney and blood disorders”.[16] Like 9527, 9500 can cause hemolysis (rupture of blood cells) and may also causeinternal bleeding.”[4]






COREXIT being offloaded according to strict OSHA procedures

http://stopthespraying.org/blog/how-toxic-is-corexit/






Need we say more about how Corexit is contributing to the demise of the GOM?!



#2 The deeper the geological source of the hydrocarbons, the more radioactive isotopes present in the oil and gas.


That hydrocarbons pulled from the bowels of the earth have a scientifically verified radioactive component(s) is the dirty little secret of the Oil & Gas Industry. So secret in fact that, if it were to get out, this single scientific fact would seal the fate of the entire industry. It also undergirds the correct understanding that oil and gas are both abiotic in nature and abiogenic in origin – facts which completely upend the corporate myth known as Peak Oil. (i.e. It has been asserted that the Macondo Prospect sits on a reservoir of abiotic oil the size of Mount Everest, but that doesn’t make it economically feasible or practical to extract; nor is it smart to engage in such utter folly, as the sinking of the Deepwater Horizon dramatically demonstrated)




In the immediate aftermath of the BP Gulf Oil Spill there appeared a headline which was more telling than them all:

“They’ve Literally Punched A Hole Into Hell: We Need A Crash Alternative Energy Program Now, Assuming We Even Survive”


Mantle-generated hydrocarbons come from very young geological formations deep in the earth, and are the product of very powerful geo-thermal forces. The presence of radioactive isotopes such as uranium, thorium, radium show up in much greater concentrations the deeper the well bore is drilled into the earth’s crust, and are ubiquitous throughout the mantle. Therefore, the hydrocarbon constituents, which are actually found in the interstitial spaces, porous rock formations and quaternary sediments and are scattered everywhere because of their liquid and gaseous states, exist within and around this highly radioactive environment.

How radioactive is the hydrocarbon effluent upsurging from the these wells in the GOM that are drilled at 10, 12, 15, 18, 20, 25,000 feet through the crust and into the mantle? Here’s a link to the American Petroleum Institute website that will partially answer this question.

http://www.chk.com/Media/CorpMediaKits/API_NORM_Fact_Sheet.pdf

Whenever there is a higher concentration of methane gas in the mix of oil/gas that comes out of any given well, it means that:

“The more methane that is present reflects the amount of Uranium and Thorium in the oil reserve. The deeper the oil, the younger the radiological decay is that produces helium.”

“Helium is a naturally occurring gas formed in oil reserves. So common that helium detectors have been used to discover oil reserves. Helium is an inert gas known to be a by-product from the radiological decay of uranium and thorium. Uranium and Thorium are known to be in great quantities at greater depths. Yes, radioactive elements occur naturally and can be found and detected in smaller amounts in shallow oil reserves. Oil reserves that do not produce large amounts of methane also lack uranium and thorium. The presence of methane is proportional to the presence of uranium and thorium, both radioactive elements.”

“The energy coming from uranium and thorium decay is thought to be the most significant energy source inside the earth,” Tolich said. “So this is the driving engine for things such as tectonic plate movements, volcanoes and earthquake. We are looking for neutrinos, particularly electron antineutrinos … coming from uranium and thorium decay inside the earth. The uranium and thorium is distributed all through the earth in the mantle.” (Per http://www.rense.com/general91/d2se.htm)

Uranium, thorium neutrino research could determine Earth’s age, energy production

From our many discussions with those knowledgeable at the OSATF (Oil Spill Academic Task Force) here in Tallahassee, FL, it became evident early on in the spill that the percentage of methane of the total hydrocarbon composition was quite high. Some observed that it appeared to very slowly decrease, yet remained high right up until the capping of the gusher. Hence, we know that we have a radioactive spill in the GOM.

Please understand that we are not suggesting that the fish will start glowing with blue light; only that long term exposure to low level radioactivity has its obvious consequences to all living organisms. In the meantime, those living on the GOM coastline ought to introduce copious amounts of seaweed (e.g. kelp) into their diets.

Where it concerns the release of radioactivity into the waters, there is simply no way to put this genie back into the bottle within the current scientific paradigm … unless there is alchemical science yet to be revealed and new age technologies to be developed.

As we said in the introduction, “It is with great regret that we file this report.”

May we all do our part in spreading the awareness of these realities, so that many more of US will be in the position to make informed decisions about where we live, work and play, what we eat, our health and safety, our livelihoods, our families, our communities … … … and our shared environment known as Mother Earth.
 

Ragnarok

On and On, South of Heaven
Dead Fish Washing Up Everywhere Due to BP Oil Spill and Dispersants
http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2010/08/dead-fish-washing-up-everywhere-due-to.html

Days After Tar Balls Hit New York Beach Massive Fish Kills Stretch From New Jersey to Massachusetts
http://blog.alexanderhiggins.com/20...h-massive-fish-kills-stretch-nj-massachusets/

Friday the 13th Part II: Even larger plumes seeping from seafloor
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bV-DkVOX7qE&feature=player_embedded

Hundreds of Thousands of DEAD FISH on NEW JERSEY SHORE AUG 12 2010
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ag0oQm0dhXs

More Oil And Tar On Pensacola Beach
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKLaKQ4C7I8

The BP Cover-Up
http://motherjones.com/environment/2010/09/bp-ocean-cover-up

BP oil-methane-dispersant-drilling fluids disaster
http://www.salon.com/news/politics/war_room/2010/08/12/oil_spill_mother_jones

Tax collector files claim against BP for loss of bed taxes
http://www.baynews9.com/article/new...-claim-with-BP-for-loss-of-bed-taxes-(I-poll)

Are we about to have another blowout on the BP blowout well?
http://www.opednews.com/articles/Are-we-about-to-have-anoth-by-Chris-Landau-100812-88.html

Fishermen, cleanup workers and residents of Gulf Coast believe they are being sickened by toxic chemicals from BP spill
http://globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=21822

http://www.floridaoilspilllaw.com/

Scientists find 'dramatic' damage to marine life near BP spill site
http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/11/06/gulf.coral.damage/index.html?hpt=C2

NOAA Official Asks EINNEWS to Withdraw Story Questioning Safety of Gulf Seafood
http://www.einnews.com/pr-news/2159...draw-story-questioning-safety-of-gulf-seafood

Multiple independent lab tests confirm oil in Gulf shrimp
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/educatio...n-violent-as-Tory-headquarters-evacuated.html

BP Oil Slams Floridahttp://www.washingtonsblog.com/2010/11/bp-oil-slams-florida.html

Tears after heartbreaking discovery near FL border: “Massive amounts of submerged and sub-surface oil” pushed on to beaches — “Neverending” (VIDEO)
http://www.floridaoilspilllaw.com/h...massive-amounts-submerged-surface-oil-beaches

*CONFIRMED* Chemist: That’s BP oil on Southwest Florida beach — “Should put to rest any doubt” over origin of 173 ppm oil found in sand near Sarasota
http://www.floridaoilspilllaw.com/f...ach-sarasota-fl-matches-bps-crude-lab-results

Orange Beach: “Billions of tar balls” (VIDEO)http://www.floridaoilspilllaw.com/orange-beach-billions-tar-balls-video

Oil under sand still just “as toxic as the fresh oil”: Sample “had to be diluted 20 TIMES to get a reading” — Florida agency says SAME sample NOT toxic.
http://www.floridaoilspilllaw.com/b...diluted-20-times-reading-florida-agency-toxic

FL Fisherman: “Like having a chemical dump site and not telling anyone” — “Oh no, I’m cleaning flounders right now that I just caught within eyesight of there”
http://www.floridaoilspilllaw.com/f...ay-fish-im-cleaning-flounders-caught-eyesight

Miami wildlife officer: “Birds sporadically dispersed, floating southward, about a mile slick of them” — CBS reports 10 dead (VIDEOS & PHOTO)http://www.floridaoilspilllaw.com/f...spersed-floating-southward-about-mile-slick-2

Miami-area: Many large birds reported “floating in Biscayne Bay covered in oil” — “Biologists mind-boggled” (VIDEO)http://www.floridaoilspilllaw.com/a...birds-floating-biscayne-bay-covered-oil-video

“Could we all be at risk?” asks local Florida news station — Medical doctor has patients testing in 95th percentile for oil spill-associated chemicals (VIDEOS)
http://www.floridaoilspilllaw.com/l...symptoms-toxic-exposure-oil-dispersant-videos

All 40 scientists agree at meeting: “Fish in the Gulf of Mexico will continue to get sick, die or fail to reproduce as a result” of oil — What about the people?
http://www.floridaoilspilllaw.com/s...produce-result-bp-deepwater-horizon-oil-spill

Multiple boats of fishermen sickened on November 1 — One still hospitalized after “bleeding in his esophagus”
http://www.floridaoilspilllaw.com/m...r-1-one-hospitalized-after-bleeding-esophagus

Dallas surgeon “has treated many people from the Gulf that have been made sick by BP’s toxic chemicals”
http://www.floridaoilspilllaw.com/d...any-people-gulf-made-sick-bps-toxic-chemicals

“I don’t recommend eating Gulf seafood, not with the risk of liver and kidney damage” says toxicologist — “They’re sniffing for something they can’t detect”
http://www.floridaoilspilllaw.com/d...ey-damage-toxicologist-theyre-sniffing-detect

Scientists worry about “a cascade of events that will lead to the collapse of entire Gulf species” — May have pushed a variety of sharks “to their tipping point”
http://www.floridaoilspilllaw.com/u...ecies-tipping-point-creatures-be-point-saving

Doctor: “Dead people don’t talk, dead people don’t sue, dead people don’t tell the truth, and dead people don’t bother BP”
http://www.floridaoilspilllaw.com/d...-people-dont-truth-dead-people-dont-bother-bp

Official: “We will NEVER get all of the oil off the beach, that’s just something we have to come to grips with” (VIDEO)http://www.floridaoilspilllaw.com/n...official-will-never-all-oil-beach-grips-video

“Human race survives methane plume, for now” — May take 400 years to be clear on how methane affected Gulf says professorhttp://www.floridaoilspilllaw.com/p...ears-be-clear-methane-affected-gulf-professor

“Data that’s been gathered about the spill’s impact has yet to be made public” — USF Dean: Feds will not share test results with researchers who collected samples
http://www.floridaoilspilllaw.com/u...e-results-tests-researchers-collected-samples

Dispersant use contaminates volume of water with up to 1,000 more PAHs — What’s worse? These toxic parts of oil remain longesthttp://www.floridaoilspilllaw.com/d...hs-whats-worse-toxic-parts-oil-remain-longest

Toxicologist: “We tested a good number of seafood samples and in 100 percent we found petroleum” — Gov’t tests “little more than a farce”http://www.floridaoilspilllaw.com/t...rcent-found-petroleum-govt-tests-little-farce

Illness Plagues Gulf Residents in BP’s Aftermath
http://theintelhub.com/2010/11/18/illness-plagues-gulf-residents-in-bps-aftermath/

Bon Secour Shrimpers Say Nets and Shrimp Covered With Oil, After Shrimping Trip Off Louisiana Coast
http://www.local15tv.com/news/local...p-Covered/q4ezOp9lNUuaoZxNHDlq4g.cspx?rss=217

Laboratory Test Results Raise Concern Over Gulf Seafood
http://www.wftv.com/news/25875784/detail.html?cxntlid=cmg_cntnt_rss

Large fish die-off at the mouth of the Mississippi
http://www.naturalnews.com/030547_Mississippi_river_die-off.html

Boat engine causes oil to rise from seafloor -- "Just dead, everything's dead"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2MF-aLatJyw&feature=player_embedded

NOAA Closes 4,200 Square Miles of Gulf Waters to Royal Red Shrimping
http://www.restorethegulf.gov/relea...-square-miles-gulf-waters-royal-red-shrimping

Conspiracy Theory/J. Ventura
The Gulf Oil ConspiracyFri, Dec 10, 9:00p - 10:00p080 truTV
Jesse investigates the origins of the BP oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico to determine if it was a deliberate step in a plot by the government to depopulate Louisiana and transform the area into a refinery.
 

Satanta

Stone Cold Crazy
_______________
Almost gives the sense that prepping for more than a short-term emergency is pointless.
 
Dead Fish Washing Up Everywhere Due to BP Oil Spill and Dispersants
http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2010/08/dead-fish-washing-up-everywhere-due-to.html

Days After Tar Balls Hit New York Beach Massive Fish Kills Stretch From New Jersey to Massachusetts
http://blog.alexanderhiggins.com/20...h-massive-fish-kills-stretch-nj-massachusets/

Friday the 13th Part II: Even larger plumes seeping from seafloor
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bV-DkVOX7qE&feature=player_embedded

Hundreds of Thousands of DEAD FISH on NEW JERSEY SHORE AUG 12 2010
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ag0oQm0dhXs

More Oil And Tar On Pensacola Beach
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKLaKQ4C7I8

The BP Cover-Up
http://motherjones.com/environment/2010/09/bp-ocean-cover-up

BP oil-methane-dispersant-drilling fluids disaster
http://www.salon.com/news/politics/war_room/2010/08/12/oil_spill_mother_jones

Tax collector files claim against BP for loss of bed taxes
http://www.baynews9.com/article/new...-claim-with-BP-for-loss-of-bed-taxes-(I-poll)

Are we about to have another blowout on the BP blowout well?
http://www.opednews.com/articles/Are-we-about-to-have-anoth-by-Chris-Landau-100812-88.html

Fishermen, cleanup workers and residents of Gulf Coast believe they are being sickened by toxic chemicals from BP spill
http://globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=21822

http://www.floridaoilspilllaw.com/

Scientists find 'dramatic' damage to marine life near BP spill site
http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/11/06/gulf.coral.damage/index.html?hpt=C2

NOAA Official Asks EINNEWS to Withdraw Story Questioning Safety of Gulf Seafood
http://www.einnews.com/pr-news/2159...draw-story-questioning-safety-of-gulf-seafood

Multiple independent lab tests confirm oil in Gulf shrimp
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/educatio...n-violent-as-Tory-headquarters-evacuated.html

BP Oil Slams Floridahttp://www.washingtonsblog.com/2010/11/bp-oil-slams-florida.html

Tears after heartbreaking discovery near FL border: “Massive amounts of submerged and sub-surface oil” pushed on to beaches — “Neverending” (VIDEO)
http://www.floridaoilspilllaw.com/h...massive-amounts-submerged-surface-oil-beaches

*CONFIRMED* Chemist: That’s BP oil on Southwest Florida beach — “Should put to rest any doubt” over origin of 173 ppm oil found in sand near Sarasota
http://www.floridaoilspilllaw.com/f...ach-sarasota-fl-matches-bps-crude-lab-results

Orange Beach: “Billions of tar balls” (VIDEO)http://www.floridaoilspilllaw.com/orange-beach-billions-tar-balls-video

Oil under sand still just “as toxic as the fresh oil”: Sample “had to be diluted 20 TIMES to get a reading” — Florida agency says SAME sample NOT toxic.
http://www.floridaoilspilllaw.com/b...diluted-20-times-reading-florida-agency-toxic

FL Fisherman: “Like having a chemical dump site and not telling anyone” — “Oh no, I’m cleaning flounders right now that I just caught within eyesight of there”
http://www.floridaoilspilllaw.com/f...ay-fish-im-cleaning-flounders-caught-eyesight

Miami wildlife officer: “Birds sporadically dispersed, floating southward, about a mile slick of them” — CBS reports 10 dead (VIDEOS & PHOTO)http://www.floridaoilspilllaw.com/f...spersed-floating-southward-about-mile-slick-2

Miami-area: Many large birds reported “floating in Biscayne Bay covered in oil” — “Biologists mind-boggled” (VIDEO)http://www.floridaoilspilllaw.com/a...birds-floating-biscayne-bay-covered-oil-video

“Could we all be at risk?” asks local Florida news station — Medical doctor has patients testing in 95th percentile for oil spill-associated chemicals (VIDEOS)
http://www.floridaoilspilllaw.com/l...symptoms-toxic-exposure-oil-dispersant-videos

All 40 scientists agree at meeting: “Fish in the Gulf of Mexico will continue to get sick, die or fail to reproduce as a result” of oil — What about the people?
http://www.floridaoilspilllaw.com/s...produce-result-bp-deepwater-horizon-oil-spill

Multiple boats of fishermen sickened on November 1 — One still hospitalized after “bleeding in his esophagus”
http://www.floridaoilspilllaw.com/m...r-1-one-hospitalized-after-bleeding-esophagus

Dallas surgeon “has treated many people from the Gulf that have been made sick by BP’s toxic chemicals”
http://www.floridaoilspilllaw.com/d...any-people-gulf-made-sick-bps-toxic-chemicals

“I don’t recommend eating Gulf seafood, not with the risk of liver and kidney damage” says toxicologist — “They’re sniffing for something they can’t detect”
http://www.floridaoilspilllaw.com/d...ey-damage-toxicologist-theyre-sniffing-detect

Scientists worry about “a cascade of events that will lead to the collapse of entire Gulf species” — May have pushed a variety of sharks “to their tipping point”
http://www.floridaoilspilllaw.com/u...ecies-tipping-point-creatures-be-point-saving

Doctor: “Dead people don’t talk, dead people don’t sue, dead people don’t tell the truth, and dead people don’t bother BP”
http://www.floridaoilspilllaw.com/d...-people-dont-truth-dead-people-dont-bother-bp

Official: “We will NEVER get all of the oil off the beach, that’s just something we have to come to grips with” (VIDEO)http://www.floridaoilspilllaw.com/n...official-will-never-all-oil-beach-grips-video

“Human race survives methane plume, for now” — May take 400 years to be clear on how methane affected Gulf says professorhttp://www.floridaoilspilllaw.com/p...ears-be-clear-methane-affected-gulf-professor

“Data that’s been gathered about the spill’s impact has yet to be made public” — USF Dean: Feds will not share test results with researchers who collected samples
http://www.floridaoilspilllaw.com/u...e-results-tests-researchers-collected-samples

Dispersant use contaminates volume of water with up to 1,000 more PAHs — What’s worse? These toxic parts of oil remain longesthttp://www.floridaoilspilllaw.com/d...hs-whats-worse-toxic-parts-oil-remain-longest

Toxicologist: “We tested a good number of seafood samples and in 100 percent we found petroleum” — Gov’t tests “little more than a farce”http://www.floridaoilspilllaw.com/t...rcent-found-petroleum-govt-tests-little-farce

Illness Plagues Gulf Residents in BP’s Aftermath
http://theintelhub.com/2010/11/18/illness-plagues-gulf-residents-in-bps-aftermath/

Bon Secour Shrimpers Say Nets and Shrimp Covered With Oil, After Shrimping Trip Off Louisiana Coast
http://www.local15tv.com/news/local...p-Covered/q4ezOp9lNUuaoZxNHDlq4g.cspx?rss=217

Laboratory Test Results Raise Concern Over Gulf Seafood
http://www.wftv.com/news/25875784/detail.html?cxntlid=cmg_cntnt_rss

Large fish die-off at the mouth of the Mississippi
http://www.naturalnews.com/030547_Mississippi_river_die-off.html

Boat engine causes oil to rise from seafloor -- "Just dead, everything's dead"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2MF-aLatJyw&feature=player_embedded

NOAA Closes 4,200 Square Miles of Gulf Waters to Royal Red Shrimping
http://www.restorethegulf.gov/relea...-square-miles-gulf-waters-royal-red-shrimping

Conspiracy Theory/J. Ventura
The Gulf Oil ConspiracyFri, Dec 10, 9:00p - 10:00p080 truTV
Jesse investigates the origins of the BP oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico to determine if it was a deliberate step in a plot by the government to depopulate Louisiana and transform the area into a refinery.

:shkr:
 

blackjeep

The end times are here.
I have long felt when the well was capped, the worst was yet to come.

There's no reversing the damage done and the inevitable release of huge amounts of radioactive oil, along with exploding methane, will wipe out most of the gulf coast, IMO.
 

Hansa44

Justine Case
I posted this last night...............

Conspiracy Theory/ Jesse Ventura (Dec.10)

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Looks like another interesting one Friday, Dec.10

Conspiracy Theory/J. Ventura
The Gulf Oil ConspiracyFri, Dec 10, 9:00p - 10:00p080 truTV

Jesse investigates the origins of the BP oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico to determine if it was a deliberate step in a plot by the government to depopulate Louisiana and transform the area into a refinery.
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kendwell

Inactive
Solution? Not PC

Pressures are very high, given. Rock bed if fractured, given. Oil/gas continues to leak, given.

The badly NOT PC solution is to drill and extract, eventually relieving pressure.

Not NO, but HELL NO? OK, long term the outcome will be far worse for the Gulf ecosystem.

Earthquakes, volcanos, sun, all active.
 

Troke

Deceased
Fishing has stopped, right? Nobody is fishing because all the fish are dead, right?

Aaahhh..anybody actually looked?
 

rodeorector

Global Moderator
I posted this last night...............

Conspiracy Theory/ Jesse Ventura (Dec.10)

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Looks like another interesting one Friday, Dec.10

Conspiracy Theory/J. Ventura
The Gulf Oil ConspiracyFri, Dec 10, 9:00p - 10:00p080 truTV

Jesse investigates the origins of the BP oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico to determine if it was a deliberate step in a plot by the government to depopulate Louisiana and transform the area into a refinery.
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I should think it more likely that it would be the government trying to dessimate our oil bidness entirely. It's pretty obvious Barry and Ken have it in for petro. Shut down the entire industry, loss of jobs, loss of available oil products for the various uses and we become dependent on the governmnet for everything. Not to worry though, they have our best interests at heart.
 

Countrymouse

Country exile in the city
A Submarine Ride To The Gulf Floor... Which Is Covered In Oil!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_Os-WViIB4

Child Splashed with Gulf Water Gets Cigar Like Burn On Face
http://theintelhub.com/2010/12/04/child-splashed-with-gulf-water-gets-cigar-like-burn-on-face/

I am SO glad you posted the submarine link---because this same story was reported just the other day on LOCAL ATLANTA NEWS (channel 2 I think). The sub was commissioned by, and / or staffed by, oceanographers from the University of Georgia and / or Georgia State University.

They kept commenting on how the entire GULF FLOOR IS A DEAD ZONE---that an area normally thriving with deep-sea worms and other life forms is completely and totally DEAD--and the entire floor of the Gulf is covered in oil.

At least this one news station had the guts to publish the story--but it was way late in the broadcast, not the lead story as it should have been.
 

Border guard

Inactive
BP poisoned the environment - now the people in the Gulf and the rest of us will have to live with it for who knows how long. Sounds to me like we'll have some environmental hell to pay but who knows what and for how long. If DC was smart, which we know they aren't, they should have forced BP pay to relocate anyone that wanted to move from the GOM area. Just another item to add to the collapse. - BG
 

Sligo

Inactive
What happened in the GOM is akin to a ruptured artery in a human, except it cannot be repaired. We cannot injure the Earth in this way and think there will be no long term consequences. The damage was forever done the day of the explosion. The waters of the Earth were polluted beyond hope. They - Big Business and Big Government - continue to think that we - the people - are so stupid that we will believe everything they tell us as if we have no capacity to think for ourselves. Those with voices will eventually be silenced.
 

Ragnarok

On and On, South of Heaven
Gulf researcher: “Oil appears to be everywhere” on seafloor, a massive “kill zone” where “it looks like everything’s dead” — Degrading “very slowly”
http://www.floridaoilspilllaw.com/g...-everythings-dead-degrading-very-slowly-video

“The area you cleaned yesterday overnight becomes soiled again” — Amount of workers to DOUBLE says coordinator
http://www.floridaoilspilllaw.com/a...oiled-again-amount-workers-double-coordinator

“Great Concern” about food web: “External and internal deformities, cancer and other diseases, genetic defects”
http://www.floridaoilspilllaw.com/g...rmities-cancer-other-diseases-genetic-defects

:dot5::dot5::dot5::dot5:Top British Newspaper: BP’s oil in Gulf has “switched off the North Atlantic Current, which keeps Europe from freezing”:dot5::dot5::dot5::dot5:
http://www.floridaoilspilllaw.com/t...-north-atlantic-current-keeps-europe-freezing

Louisiana has more oiled shoreline now than in July — “Baby crabs and adult shrimp covered by crude, slicks on the surface” — (PHOTOS)
http://www.floridaoilspilllaw.com/l...lt-shrimp-covered-crude-slicks-surface-photos
 

mt4design

Has No Life - Lives on TB
I have long felt when the well was capped, the worst was yet to come.

There's no reversing the damage done and the inevitable release of huge amounts of radioactive oil, along with exploding methane, will wipe out most of the gulf coast, IMO.

This has been my feeling since the story first broke. I posted quite a bit about the destruction that would come from such a massive disaster.

Entire ecosystems lost, damaged, impacted.

Weather systems changed.

Most of the oil never made it to the surface, it just languished in the cold waters like a blanket of poison. Some had to settle at the sea floor.

I pray God can forgive us for the terrible mess we humans have made.

Mike
 

mt4design

Has No Life - Lives on TB
My God, please have mercy on us.

Just saw this posted...

http://www.timebomb2000.com/vb/showpost.php?p=3919755&postcount=1

Oil in the Gulf Current may and probably will trigger a new Ice Age

Oceanographic satellite data now shows that the Loop Current in the Gulf of Mexico has stalled as a consequence of the BP oil spill disaster. This according to Dr. Gianluigi Zangari, an Italian theoretical physicist, and major complex and chaotic systems analyst at the Frascati National Laboratories in Italy.
http://yowusa.com/earth/2010/earth-0810-01a/1.shtml
 

mikedonathan

Contributing Member
I'm not going to dispute the severity of the spill but I would like to comment on the after effects. While in concentrated form, oil is poisonous, after it's diluted it is a fertilizer.

We all saw the films of the oil wells buring in Kuwait after the first gulf war. A client of mine had a job with a contractor in Turkey at the time and they were sent to Kuwait to deal with the pools of oil. He drove a bulldozer and they dammed the oil to prevent spread. He said the next year the grass was so thick and rich the locals were fighting over who got to graze their stock there.

If you look at a world globe you can see that the GOM is pretty small in relation to the whole. While the bulk of oil is trapped in the gulf some will escape to cause problems in its' concentrated form but most will lay on the bottom and slowly degrade. Many plants and animals will suffer due to the oil but others will thrive in the new environment. It just needs time to stabilize.

Back to the world globe and you can see the GOM holds such a small amount of the world's ocean water, the dilution effect will prevent damage to the vast majority of the system.

An ecological dissater, I don't think so. An ecological accident, yes but we are running at the ragged edge of technology's ability to supply energy to our system. Without the cheap concentrated energy held in oil, the world's human population would contract by probably 75%. There are those out there that probably feel that would be okay so long as it was somebody else doing the dying.

As to the gulf stream, Wood's Hole has some pretty interesting articles that indicate the stream is slowing due to the fresh water melt off of Greenland and the north sea ice that is building up a big freshwater plug in the North Atlantic. It very likely could bring on an ice age but the oil spill wouldn't have anything to do with it.
 

Rich30N90W

Contributing Member
Fishing has stopped, right? Nobody is fishing because all the fish are dead, right?

Aaahhh..anybody actually looked?

Most fishing areas are open again, Shrimp are plentiful, Oysters took a bad hit - small sized and almost double in price ($35-40 per gallon) - but we are so addicted to slurping some unwashed raw oysters, and having oyster dressing, that we would pay anything for it :) I'll let my wife post for me after I drop dead from oil/corexit poisoning...
 

nharrold

Inactive
I dunno...while there may well be a major disaster extant in the Gulf, the way the article is written, with many subtle woo-woo hints, betrays to me an agenda that may distort some of the conclusions drawn by the author...which would be unfortunate, if in fact the factual evidence is actually there.

Woo-woo people with agendas and biases raise my hackles immediately and throw into question their interpretations, observations, and conclusions.

I'll give this one a pass.
 

Ragnarok

On and On, South of Heaven
MOX NEWS: Unfair and Biased? I prefer to get my news from The Onion, if you don't mind.

I'm assuming you missed post 16?

I am SO glad you posted the submarine link---because this same story was reported just the other day on LOCAL ATLANTA NEWS (channel 2 I think). The sub was commissioned by, and / or staffed by, oceanographers from the University of Georgia and / or Georgia State University.

They kept commenting on how the entire GULF FLOOR IS A DEAD ZONE---that an area normally thriving with deep-sea worms and other life forms is completely and totally DEAD--and the entire floor of the Gulf is covered in oil.

At least this one news station had the guts to publish the story--but it was way late in the broadcast, not the lead story as it should have been.












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Ragnarok

On and On, South of Heaven
Marine biologist: Military spraying chemtrails over Gulf “to promote bacterial growth”
http://pdx2gulfcoast.com/2010/12/qa-ed-cake-ph-d/

Oil disaster’s health effects “will be felt for GENERATIONS” warns scientist
http://www.nola.com/news/gulf-oil-spill/index.ssf/2011/02/bp_oil_spills_health_effects_w.html

“Chemicals”? 1000s of dead fish clog Florida shore — “Never saw this before in my life”
http://www.wpbf.com/news/26744523/detail.html

Censored: “You can’t say that” White House told reporter — “People will get scared” about amount of oil in Gulf
http://www.jconline.com/article/20110204/NEWS0501/102040339

South Florida beach “thickly populated with dead critters” — Seaweed piled 3 feet high
http://www.lifesacoast.com/thousand...d-into-piles-of-seaweed-over-three-feet-high/

3,000+ foot long mysterious black blob of killer “toxic goo” found near Florida coast — Appears to be GROWING
http://www.heraldtribune.com/article/20110202/BREAKING/110209956/-1/sports?p=all&tc=pgall

“I can’t even get in the water any more because we get oil on us” — It’s just MUD washing up says cleanup crew
http://www.fox10tv.com/dpp/news/local_news/baldwin_county/gulf-shores-beaches-still-seeing-oil

More cleanup workers come forward: “Massive health problems”, constant swelling, fluid in lungs, kidney problems, lumps
http://www.youtube.com/user/jmrexford

“Dispersant does not appear to break down, contrary to what most people thought”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5Ehs4aNcqg

Thousands of dead and dying starfish, clams, crabs, and conchs “littering” beaches on Florida’s Gulf Coast — “Everywhere I looked were struggling creatures”
http://blogs.naplesnews.com/lifeslowlane/2011/01/if-you-cant-save-them-all.html

What’s in the Gulf is “going to come ashore next hurricane” says city employee — “Something people oughta look into”
http://www.wkrg.com/gulf_oil_spill/...beaches-and-more/1204243/Jan-24-2011_6-24-pm/

Alabama Paper: Did anyone really believe the oil just disappeared and that humans wouldn’t be affected?
http://www.annistonstar.com/view/fu...-testing-should-be-done?instance=home_opinion

Two young boys with “some of the highest blood concentrations of the chemicals” found in BP’s oil — One has already “suffered severe respiratory problems as a result”
http://www.southernstudies.org/2011/01/bps-spilled-oil-is-washing-up-in-people.html

Top official reveals that dispersed oil will be in Gulf “longer than anyone here will be alive” according to LSU scientists
http://www.thenewsstar.com/article/20110119/UPDATES01/110119009

Family describes being sprayed with Corexit
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GqqgIroYz5k&feature=feedu

“Extremely toxic” crude oil could be “slowly killing” the people of the Gulf Coast says LSU columnist
http://www.lsureveille.com/opinion/...cond-during-an-environmental-crisis-1.2444842

BP pressuring Florida county to “sign off” that beaches are clean — Commissioners refuse
http://www.weartv.com/newsroom/top_stories/videos/wear_vid_13353.shtml

Fox News Flashback: Workers stripped naked and scrubbed down by man in space suit — Yet cleanup crews couldn’t wear respirators
http://video.foxnews.com/v/4249368/gulf-oil-spill-workers-reporting-illness

Has BP’s crude reached Britain? BBC reports “Thick black oil” found on beach near England’s southwestern-most point
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cornwall-12154167

“Yellow foam” hits several beaches in southern England — “Massive clean-up” of “oily material” underway
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-hampshire-12183654
 

Conrad Nimikos

Who is Henry Bowman
.....our local TV news from Pensacola, Fla. just announced a large shrimping area is now open. Won't all those fisherman be disappointed to go out there and find no shrimp? seems at least one of our local fisherman would be reporting they haven't found any.
 

Old Gray Mare

TB Fanatic
What happened in the GOM is akin to a ruptured artery in a human, except it cannot be repaired. We cannot injure the Earth in this way and think there will be no long term consequences. The damage was forever done the day of the explosion. The waters of the Earth were polluted beyond hope. They - Big Business and Big Government - continue to think that we - the people - are so stupid that we will believe everything they tell us as if we have no capacity to think for ourselves. Those with voices will eventually be silenced.
Eventually the earth will heal its self. The oil at the bottom of the GOM today may become the tar sands of another epoc. The question are how long is that eventually? How badly damaged will the oceans become? Will they continue to sustain life or will they die like the GOM? Just what will the damages be? Or is it starting to recoup now? How fast and how well will we humans be able to adapt to our newly altered environment? How bad will it get? What should we be doing now to prepare for that then? These are the what ifs we should be brain storming now. If the news will not report it and the government will not discuss it then it is up to us. What can we do? I don't know. Maybe some of those on this board with a few more brain cells can answer that question and some of the others listed here.
 

jed turtle

a brother in the Lord
normally, when one's environment becomes poisoned beyond fixing, and the government in charge becomes a dictatorship headed by a ego-maniac, the really smart people quietly begin to move away before they get plowed under by the inevitable subsequent events that usually attend those conditions.
 

Old Gray Mare

TB Fanatic
normally, when one's environment becomes poisoned beyond fixing, and the government in charge becomes a dictatorship headed by a ego-maniac, the really smart people quietly begin to move away before they get plowed under by the inevitable subsequent events that usually attend those conditions.

Those moving away from the GOM may have a lot of company if the Gulf Stream carries the stuff up the east coast. A lot of people live in the coastal megalopolis. If they are forced to move inland the migration will be as the kids say epic. People already on the property out west might not want the company. It is hard to imagine anything being able to kill an ocean.
 

Kent

Inactive
It takes time to look at all this junk, will try to do some more later.

Marine biologist: Military spraying chemtrails over Gulf “to promote bacterial growth”
http://pdx2gulfcoast.com/2010/12/qa-ed-cake-ph-d/

Chemtrails are still being sprayed in our skies as federal military and other aviation interests blanket the region with “unknown” chemicals (probably aluminum and other minerals) to promote bacterial growth in the “Gulf of Oil” waters Dec 2010

Oil disaster’s health effects “will be felt for GENERATIONS” warns scientist
http://www.nola.com/news/gulf-oil-spill/index.ssf/2011/02/bp_oil_spills_health_effects_w.html

Committed to protecting the environment and the health and safety of citizens, Wilma Subra started Subra Company in 1981. Subra Company is a chemistry lab and environmental consulting firm in New Iberia, LA. Mrs. Subra provides technical assistance to citizens, across
the United States and some foreign countries, concerned with their environment by combining technical research and evaluation. This information is then presented to community members so
that strategies may be developed to address their local struggles.
Utilizing the information gained from community involvement, the needs identified are translated into policy changes at the State and Federal level through service on multi-stake holder committees. She has just completed a seven year term as Vice-Chair of the Environmental Protection Agency National Advisory Council foronmental Policy and T Envirechnology
(NACEPT), a five year term on the National Advisory Committee of the U. S. Representative to the Commission for Environmental Cooperation and a six year term on the EPA National Environmental Justice Advisory Council (NEJAC) where she served as a member of the Cumulative Risk and Impacts Working Group of the NEJAC Council, and chaired the NEJAC Gulf Coast Hurricanes Work Group.

“Chemicals”? 1000s of dead fish clog Florida shore — “Never saw this before in my life”
http://www.wpbf.com/news/26744523/detail.html

Sebastian Inlet State Park is on the EAST cost of FL, not the Gulf

Censored: “You can’t say that” White House told reporter — “People will get scared” about amount of oil in Gulf
http://www.jconline.com/article/20110204/NEWS0501/102040339

South Florida beach “thickly populated with dead critters” — Seaweed piled 3 feet high
http://www.lifesacoast.com/thousand...d-into-piles-of-seaweed-over-three-feet-high/

3,000+ foot long mysterious black blob of killer “toxic goo” found near Florida coast — Appears to be GROWING
http://www.heraldtribune.com/article/20110202/BREAKING/110209956/-1/sports?p=all&tc=pgall

“I can’t even get in the water any more because we get oil on us” — It’s just MUD washing up says cleanup crew
http://www.fox10tv.com/dpp/news/local_news/baldwin_county/gulf-shores-beaches-still-seeing-oil

More cleanup workers come forward: “Massive health problems”, constant swelling, fluid in lungs, kidney problems, lumps
http://www.youtube.com/user/jmrexford

“Dispersant does not appear to break down, contrary to what most people thought”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5Ehs4aNcqg

Thousands of dead and dying starfish, clams, crabs, and conchs “littering” beaches on Florida’s Gulf Coast — “Everywhere I looked were struggling creatures”
http://blogs.naplesnews.com/lifeslowlane/2011/01/if-you-cant-save-them-all.html

What’s in the Gulf is “going to come ashore next hurricane” says city employee — “Something people oughta look into”
http://www.wkrg.com/gulf_oil_spill/...beaches-and-more/1204243/Jan-24-2011_6-24-pm/

Alabama Paper: Did anyone really believe the oil just disappeared and that humans wouldn’t be affected?
http://www.annistonstar.com/view/fu...-testing-should-be-done?instance=home_opinion

Two young boys with “some of the highest blood concentrations of the chemicals” found in BP’s oil — One has already “suffered severe respiratory problems as a result”
http://www.southernstudies.org/2011/01/bps-spilled-oil-is-washing-up-in-people.html

Top official reveals that dispersed oil will be in Gulf “longer than anyone here will be alive” according to LSU scientists
http://www.thenewsstar.com/article/20110119/UPDATES01/110119009

Family describes being sprayed with Corexit
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GqqgIroYz5k&feature=feedu

The family, Bubba and Lorine Williams say they were sprayed with stuff and never mentioned Corexit.

COREXIT Ingredients

Several weeks ago, Nalco responded to US EPA requests by providing the agency with detailed formulation and ingredient information on our COREXIT dispersants. We further agreed that this information could be shared with any other federal agency and with third party laboratories EPA has been using for its Gulf monitoring and assessment program to allow them to monitor any potential for risks to the environment or public health.

The list below outlines the ingredient for COREXIT .



Sorbitan, mono-(9Z)-9-octadecenoate
Skin cream, body shampoo, emulsifier in juice

Sorbitan, mono-(9Z)-9-octadecenoate, poly(oxy-1,2-ethanediyl) derivs.
Baby bath, mouth wash, face lotion, emulsifier in food

Sorbitan, tri-(9Z)-9-octadecenoate, poly(oxy-1,2-ethanediyl) derivs
Body/Face lotion, tanning lotions

Butanedioic acid, 2-sulfo-, 1,4-bis(2-ethylhexyl) ester, sodium salt (1:1)
Wetting agent in cosmetic products, gelatin, beverages

Propanol, 1-(2-butoxy-1-methylethoxy)
Household cleaning products

Distillates (petroleum), hydrotreated light
Air freshener, cleaner

Ethanol, 2-butoxy
Cleaners

“Extremely toxic” crude oil could be “slowly killing” the people of the Gulf Coast says LSU columnist
http://www.lsureveille.com/opinion/...cond-during-an-environmental-crisis-1.2444842

BP pressuring Florida county to “sign off” that beaches are clean — Commissioners refuse
http://www.weartv.com/newsroom/top_stories/videos/wear_vid_13353.shtml

Fox News Flashback: Workers stripped naked and scrubbed down by man in space suit — Yet cleanup crews couldn’t wear respirators
http://video.foxnews.com/v/4249368/gulf-oil-spill-workers-reporting-illness

Has BP’s crude reached Britain? BBC reports “Thick black oil” found on beach near England’s southwestern-most point
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cornwall-12154167

“Yellow foam” hits several beaches in southern England — “Massive clean-up” of “oily material” underway
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-hampshire-12183654
 
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