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AN OPEN LETTER TO GLENN BECK

‘Please stop helping to kill my friend…’


From Memorial Hospital on October 30th @ ~1am

Dear Glenn,

I'm typing this from the waiting room of an ICU where my friend Rodney is hospitalized in critical condition due to complications following surgery to remove his bladder and prostate. My friend is in a fight for his life because he has bladder cancer that was successfully treated a few years ago but came back with a vengeance.

You see, in 2008, Rod lost his job after years of service with his company because his health insurance was more expensive than other employees due to his cancer history and his being over 55. Given his age and health history, my friend proved to be unemployable. Also, while unemployed, he lost access to healthcare. When he became one of the 99ers, he was sufficiently impoverished to get Medicaid and when he finally saw a doctor this summer they noticed a tumor in his bladder. The tumor was removed, but subsequent trouble led the doctors to look further and see that the cancer had spread into the bladder wall. Hence, on October 19th, he underwent a cystectomy to have his bladder, prostate and local lymph-nods removed. A few days ago he learned that cancer was found in the prostate and lymph-nods, i.e., it was metastatic stage-IV bladder cancer that is most likely terminal within a year-or-so even with chemotherapy.

This evening Rod called me to let me know he was going in for emergency surgery because his white blood cell count surged and his blood pressure was dropping. I rushed to the hospital and prayed with him around 5:00pm and then he was taken to the operating room. Several hours later one of the surgeons informed us that he was out of surgery and in critical condition. It turns out that a leakage developed from a rupture of his bowel resectioning and this in turn flooded his system with waste requiring more bowel resectioning, emergency irrigation and, at this time, massive infusions of full-spectrum antibiotics and other medications to counter the systemic infection killing his body.

Rodney’s prognosis is grim. Even if he were to survive the next 24-72 hours, he will then face the possibility of another life-endangering rupture in the new resectioning over the next three months. If my friend manages to survive this, he still has bladder cancer spread throughout his body to fight with chemotherapy over the next 12-18 months before the cancer likely ends his life anyways.

Now the whole insanity of this situation is that it would never have occurred in "socialist" nations like Canada, France, Denmark, Sweden, and the majority of advanced nations, because there you have national healthcare systems such that, even when unemployed and/or less fortunate, you'd have access to care. Thus, a 55+ person with a history of bladder cancer will get regular check-ups to make sure that their cancer is not redeveloping and, if it is, it will be dealt with early before spreading such that massive surgery is necessary and death becomes the likely prognosis. Furthermore, the total cost to society under such a situation is far less given that preventative treatment is pennies on the dollar(s) compared to the healthcare now required in, for instance, Rodney's case, and this with a far worse prognosis.

So, Mr. Beck, I would like to ask you to please stop helping to kill my friend Rodney and others like him who are dying because every time you pontificate from your cable television bully pulpit on the evils of socialism and national healthcare you persuade American voters that it is somehow wrong to have a common healthcare system, paid for by sharing God's wealth blessed to our nation, that would prevent senseless tragedies like the one unfolding around me. Do you really think people like Rod are getting what they deserve?

Furthermore, given that Rod is a devout Christian, I’d like to ask that in his honor you please refrain from abusing Christ's name in your misleading sermons effectively against the virtues of caring for others. You are touting “independence” from collective responsibility IMHO. Jesus was aware that we are each part of an interdependent whole in which we must make sacrifices to love and care for one another lest society dysfunction and people die. God's "Golden Rule" is not that gold rules (watch the commercials during your program someday). I hope you soon figure out what He really means and where your love and words are due.

Sincerely,

Jay

What good is it, my brothers, if someone says he has faith but does not have works? Can that faith save him? If a brother or sister is poorly clothed and lacking in daily food, and one of you says to them, “Go in peace, be warmed and filled,” without giving them the things needed for the body, what good is that? So also faith by itself, if it does not have works, is dead. [James 2:14-17]

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UPDATE: I just came back from West Hartford where Glenn Beck was visiting for his book signing tour for Broke: The Plan to Restore Our Trust, Truth and Treasure where I was hoping to deliver my letter to him personally. I couldn't find my wallet before going, so when I got there I was surprised to learn you had to purchase the book from Barnes & Noble to get it signed (I bought my copy through Amazon), so I couldn't get in the ridiculously huge line to have my copy signed. I then checked with security to see if I could have my letter, along with a copy of Robert Buchar's book, And Reality Be Damned, be delivered to Beck to apprise him of the truly mortal threat posed to our nation by the forces of so-called "Communism" unbeknown to almost everyone. Unfortunately, there was no way to do this so I decided to leave.

As I was walking away, Glenn Beck's bus started to pull in so I stood beside it to see if I could hand him my letter and book as he went in. As I was waiting, an NPR correspondent started to preposition beside me and I joked with someone nearby that she best not mention if she gets nervous when she's on a plane boarded by Muslims. Soon someone came over and clued us in that Glenn was not on the bus and already had surreptitiously slipped into the bookstore. I then went into the store and asked one of the fellows that had stepped off the bus if he could hand Glenn my book and letter....again to no avail.

I decided to give up, but on the way out I handed my letter to the NPR gal and gave a quick interview regarding the message I was seeking to convey to Beck. In a nutshell, what I said is that America is not "Broke". Far from it. Our nation has wealth to the tune of $40 trillion (even if mostly 'fictitious') and that what is broken is Americans capacity to choose to share their wealth in order to take care of each other. I really could care less whether sharing is through the mechanism of our grossly inefficient and corrupted government or likely more efficient private organization, but the bottom line is that we have more than enough means to provide a modicum of decent healthcare to all and our failure to do so is why my friend Rodney is now fighting for his life for a condition that could have been treated early on for little cost such that his prognosis would be a full life instead of a death sentence as now appears to be the case. What's more, I mentioned that Glenn Beck does not speak for Christ and his message of freedom is more about freedom from responsibility to care for one another than anything else, and his idea of the "Golden Rule" is that gold 'rules' not God. This is antithetical to the message of love taught to this world by Jesus some 2000 years ago IMHO.

I don't know what will come of this, but if some beneficial meaning can be derived from the seemingly senseless tragedy into which my poor buddy Rod has been drawn, then thank God. I'm remiss to politicize the suffering of my friend in this contentious political season given what he's going through, but what God is speaking to my heart is that He is truth and so telling the truth, even if brutal, can not upset Him. To the contrary...


Another update: On that final note I have to admit that I'm not aware of the exact circumstances that have led to this plight. Of course, the ultimate problem is my friend's cancer, and that's for God to understand. Nevertheless, I do not know if my friend foresaked his individual responsibilities after he lost his job. Obviously, since he had had bladder cancer, he should have used a portion of whatever resources he had, i.e., unemployment compensation, to keep health insurance if that was possible. His failure to do so, if this is what occurred, might now end up proving to be a fatal mistake. I'm at the ICU and would ask him, but he's unable to speak and is unconscious, so it is what it is. Don't know if it's even worth asking about at this point. The bottom line, however, is that it is ridiculous that some 50 million Americans have no health insurance and are literally, in some cases like this, dying around us and somehow "We The People" can't see fit to sacrifice a larger portion of their wealth for others' endangerment and suffering. It's all about me, myself and I in this day and age, and God is watching. You best pray our Creator's patience not wear out...
 
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JeanCat

Veteran Member
He appears to be saying that it is ok to steal God's wealth from others that they have earned. I have no objection to people voluntarily getting to gather and sharing their wealth. That in fact is the early Christian model. More power to them. This tearful argument sounds good but it is shot full of holes. I will not take the effort to refute them. Somebody else can do that.
 

inynmn

Inactive
I wonder if the lack of affordable access to even min health care for the working slave wagers and workers who have been "dumped" - those below the eligibility age for socialist Medicare (or Medicaid - if assets are hidden in trust, etc) is contrived - keeps those unfortunates from ever reaching eligibility age for socialist social security, medicare, free or socialist subsidized meds, disability, etc.

It is strange that the "haves" or "entitled", generally speaking, have little empathy for the working poor - it's like a race to the bottom.

Disclaimer:

I'm not for the recently enacted "health care legislation" - it is not affordable access to healthcare for all (regardless of age, etc).
 

Mzkitty

I give up.
Glenn Beck net worth according to this:

$45 million.

http://www.celebritynetworth.com/richest-celebrities/glenn-beck-net-worth/


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That being pointed out, one of our dearly departed members had bladder cancer and survived for a long time (he told me about it in a PM). But the cancer came back and did him in. He was in his 70's, IIRC. I feel bad that our system is all so out of whack, and I feel bad for your friend, Jay. It does sound like he doesn't have too much longer and will be going back to God soon. I hope his remaining days and his passage to a better life are pain-free.

:rs:
 

pugdog

Membership Revoked
Accepting unemployment long term = scum sucking theiving leech commie obama loving progressive hippie ass hat.
 

The Traveler

Veteran Member
JeanCat, I don't believe at all that is what he is saying!

I took the same way Jean took it. Its ok to take from me and my family to take care of someone else. I am sorry but healthcare is NOT a God given right in my opinion. IF you need healthcare that you cannot afford for whatever reason you need to rely on your own network of friends, family and church to support you. If I ever come down with cancer or other deadly disease I will face it with my family and do whats best. I wont ask anyone for a hand out or the government to bail me out.
 

Jeff Allen

Producer
He appears to be saying that it is ok to steal God's wealth from others that they have earned. I have no objection to people voluntarily getting to gather and sharing their wealth. That in fact is the early Christian model. More power to them. This tearful argument sounds good but it is shot full of holes. I will not take the effort to refute them. Somebody else can do that.

+1

Yes, it would seem wise. Those who think it moral to steal from us expend vast energies in so doing....yet nothing is actually done by THEM except complain, or outright lie about some fantasy they have that producers somehow don't like the unfortunate??? Even when the producers of the USA donate more of their income than any other country??? And that is on top of confiscatory taxes of 1/2 what we earn?

Thats why Rand nailed that type of "thinker" as a Looter, which they clearly are.

J
 

seeking one

Inactive
In Britain or Canada, he would probably still be undiagnosed on a waiting list.

There is nothing about universal healthcare in the constitution. Universal healthcare as designed by Madame Pelosi is primarily redistribution of wealth - not healthcare.

Glenn Beck has told only the truth. He is not responsible for all the ills of the world just because he talks about them. Jeez! How very stupid!
 

pugdog

Membership Revoked
I took the same way Jean took it. Its ok to take from me and my family to take care of someone else. I am sorry but healthcare is NOT a God given right in my opinion. IF you need healthcare that you cannot afford for whatever reason you need to rely on your own network of friends, family and church to support you. If I ever come down with cancer or other deadly disease I will face it with my family and do whats best. I wont ask anyone for a hand out or the government to bail me out.

Well said.

The same people who cry for "lower taxes" and "less gov't" are hypocrites when they turn around and then scream for more handouts. You can't have both people.

Gov't handouts ENSLAVE US. They make us less free and the gov't more powerful. It is no different then stealing from your neighbors and family.
 

Mzkitty

I give up.
Some of you got up on the nasty side of the bed this morning, I see.

:xpnd:

What? You don't love your neighbors as yourself?


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medic38572

TB Fanatic
Jay, I do understand what you are saying in your post above! Here is what I have to say back.

First and foremost I am sorry for your friend, I know how sad and upset this makes one. To have to watch a friend suffer in pain surgery after surgery with no help. You also feel helpless and become embedded with disgust at the system that is supposed to save lives. I understand truly I do. Its funny, I see every single day the abuse of the system I wanted to be apart of. The people who truly need these services vs the people who abuse these services daily! I watch as a system I am to work within and treat and care for become nothing but worried about money. I watch as a government which intended to help people with their social programs, health care, food stamps go broke because of the abuse I see every stinking day. While the government tries to sham the health care systems to be able to expand this protection and force them to take what they get many times not even covering the actual cost of the intervention. The health care systems find another way to be able to properly bill. Thus rising health care bills.

I watch as many organizations beg for money every single day. Diabetes Cancer research every damn thing you can think of and nothing ever gets cured!! Nothing! We are talking about Billions and Billions over the years. Well take this pill if it don't help we will try this one. If that don't work we may have to do surgery. I look and see medications that cost 189 dollars for a months prescription I know not much considering that others pay thousands per month for something that is supposed to prolong the inevitable. But then I see I can buy the same medicine in another country for a third of the price! WTF is that?

I see supposed drug shortages in many different types of supposed life saving drugs. Yea the cheap generic types you know the ones that are supposed to be cheaper!

The whole system Jay is regulated by whom? In the end Jay who is responsible? Jay I haven't even got to the insurance part! I could go on and on about this I hope you understand what I am trying to say. I am not condemning you for this post I understand.

But Glenn Beck is not your problem! In fact he is far from being your problem.

The abuse and greed from with in is the problem.
 

Guns-N-Moses

Senior Member
Are you serious – Spirit of Truth? Is this really your letter and your opinion? If so, I have lost all respect for you.

I assume that this letter was on your blog and may not have been written by you, but I have to assume that you are in agreement as I didn’t see any comment by you to refute this persons words.

This letter is sheer propaganda and is totally devoid of the truth. I’d be surprised if this ‘Jay’ guy really exists.

If these people do exist, while I'd be sorry for this person’s health condition, I am definitely NOT SORRY for the words of Glenn Beck and I agree with Glenn Beck 100% on this.

Praise God for Glenn Beck and those like him who are opening our eyes to what this government is perpetrating.

“….So, Mr. Beck, I would like to ask you to please stop helping to kill my friend Rodney and others like him who are dying because every time you pontificate from your cable television bully pulpit on the evils of socialism and national healthcare you persuade American voters that it is somehow wrong to have a common healthcare system"

Do you understand what you are saying here? Do you know the history of socialism and what it really means? Do you really think anything will change under a nationalized health care plan?

Socialism IS EVIL and so is this monstrosity of the Health Care Bill!

“Now the whole insanity of this situation is that it would never have occurred in "socialist" nations like Canada, France, Denmark, Sweden, and the majority of advanced nations”

It’s nice that they tried to defend their theory that socialism is good by mentioning other socialist countries, however NOT EVEN ONE of the countries you mentioned is a socialist country. China, Cuba, North Korea and Vietnam are socialist countries!

If you will read the Health Care Bill you’ll find that the coverage for your friends condition probably won’t change. In fact, he’ll probably receive less coverage and yes it probably will be rationed.

I am all for some type of nationalized health care plan – but I am not willing to accept such if it requires me to become a socialist.

The current Health Care plan is not what people think it is! It’s a money and power grab by the elite. The ultimate goal is a single payer system with the government in complete control. Add this to the other areas that they’ve already taken control of (banking, housing, autos etc.) we are headed down the path of socialism.

Read up on its history and you’ll learn that socialism doesn’t work.

From a Christian perspective, I agree that faith without works is dead. But socialism is not the answer my friend. To me the End does not Justify the Means
 
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pugdog

Membership Revoked
You cannot govern through emotion, it does not work. You can accuse us conservs as being "nasty" all you want. Your proggressive tactics don't work.

This is a very unfortunate story and prayers are with this person, but what is really "nasty" and disgusting with this story is that someone takes this poor persons story and tries to gain political points with it. THAT is what is "nasty" about this story.
 

dieseltrooper

Inactive
So, am I understanding that the emergency surgery was a result of the rupture of the surgeon resectioning the bowel followed by sepsis? Is this a failure on the surgeon's part or a fairly common outcome from this type of procedure? I don't know, which is why I ask.
All I've heard over the years about socialist health-care in other countries is the horror stories about folks waiting months for surgery that needed to be done ASAP.
As for this:
[FONT=Verdana,Arial]So, Mr. Beck, I would like to ask you to please stop helping to kill my friend Rodney and others like him who are dying because every time you pontificate from your cable television bully pulpit on the evils of socialism and national healthcare you persuade American voters that it is somehow wrong to have a common healthcare system, paid for by sharing God's wealth blessed to our nation, that would prevent senseless tragedies like the one unfolding around me. Do you really think people like Rod are getting what they deserve?[/FONT]
[FONT=Verdana,Arial]:confused:

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[FONT=Verdana,Arial]When you say, "[/FONT][FONT=Verdana,Arial]sharing God's wealth blessed to our nation"[/FONT], who is in possession of this wealth? Are you advocating transferring this wealth to others? You say that he was fired due to the increasing cost of covering him? Maybe the employer should have been targeted for litigation?
You are wrong to lay this guilt-trip at Beck's feet.
 

Conrad Nimikos

Who is Henry Bowman
. Is Beck killing your friend, or have killed your friend? You know a lot about the European health system so I assume you know something about the level of taxation they have and how high our taxes will have to go to pay for a system like theirs.

. You seem to have no problem with high taxes so to me that indicates you have been voting democratic. If that is true then you are at least partly at fault for the present health situation.

. By voting democratic you have allowed government representatives to raise health care costs for everyone through regulations that cost us millions that could be paying for medical care. You have helped raise the costs of drugs for the drug companies the same way!

. By voting democratic you are one of many who have helped destroy the wealth of this country by destroying the worth of the dollar. You are the one who has helped destroy this country itself by voting for people who trample on the constitution! You, sir, not Glen Beck, are the killer!
 

Blastoff

Veteran Member
Oh for pity's sake. A coalescence of bad situations, all beyond the control of mere people, and it's Beck's fault.
 

Palmetto

Son, Husband, Father
This is pure drivel, with a communist twist. Moral relativism.

We are supposed to blame one man for another's misfortune. Are we supposed to feel sorry for Rod? I do not. He was lucky to be born in this country. Nothing more, nothing less is owed him.

Marx would be proud.

If we continue down this path, LIBERTY will die.
 

pugdog

Membership Revoked
Yesterday I was on my deck in bare feet and got a nasty splinter......DAMN YOU GLENN BECK! DAMN YOU TO HELL!!!!!! YOUR FAULT!!!!
 

medic38572

TB Fanatic
I took the same way Jean took it. Its ok to take from me and my family to take care of someone else. I am sorry but healthcare is NOT a God given right in my opinion. IF you need healthcare that you cannot afford for whatever reason you need to rely on your own network of friends, family and church to support you. If I ever come down with cancer or other deadly disease I will face it with my family and do whats best. I wont ask anyone for a hand out or the government to bail me out.
I agree with all you have to say here traveler.

But one in this condition does not make him a loath to society for seeking help from the only thing that may prolong his life! The loaths are the frigging people who abuse this system everyday for headaches, stomach aches just utter BS in order to get their fix! I see it every single DAY.
 

Mzkitty

I give up.
OK, here we are with a FAKE MONEY SYSTEM, controlled by a giant octopus; a bad newly passed "health care" system; the country is going down the tubes; the rich get richer (mostly by raping what's left of the economy); taxes are going up big time next year; people are still out of work by the millions; millions are losing their homes; we're supporting 30 million illegal aliens; we're supposedly being attacked by AQ; the upcoming elections may not solve ANYTHING (are they going to rescind all the Dems have done?); China is growling; the Pres is going out of town; they may take the internet down; spy apparatus, chemtrails, poison vaccinations, schools controlled by leftist agenda, dumbed down..... blah blah yadda yadda....... the NWO....

WHAT LIBERTY DO WE HAVE LEFT??? Are you serious??

*meh* - I'm going shopping.


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Are you serious – Spirit of Truth? Is this really your letter and your opinion? If so, I have lost all respect for you.

I assume that this letter was on your blog and may not have been written by you, but I have to assume that you are in agreement as I didn’t see any comment by you to refute this persons words.

This letter is sheer propaganda and is totally devoid of the truth. I’d be surprised if this ‘Jay’ guy really exists.

If these people do exist, while I'd be sorry for this person’s health condition, I am definitely NOT SORRY for the words of Glenn Beck and I agree with Glenn Beck 100% on this.

Praise God for Glenn Beck and those like him who are opening our eyes to what this government is perpetrating.



Do you understand what you are saying here? Do you know the history of socialism and what it really means? Do you really think anything will change under a nationalized health care plan?

Socialism IS EVIL and so is this monstrosity of the Health Care Bill!



It’s nice that they tried to defend their theory that socialism is good by mentioning other socialist countries, however NOT EVEN ONE of the countries you mentioned is a socialist country. China, Cuba, North Korea and Vietnam are socialist countries!

If you will read the Health Care Bill you’ll find that the coverage for your friends condition probably won’t change. In fact, he’ll probably receive less coverage and yes it probably will be rationed.

I am all for some type of nationalized health care plan – but I am not willing to accept such if it requires me to become a socialist.

The current Health Care plan is not what people think it is! It’s a money and power grab by the elite. The ultimate goal is a single payer system with the government in complete control. Add this to the other areas that they’ve already taken control of (banking, housing, autos etc.) we are headed down the path of socialism.

Read up on its history and you’ll learn that socialism doesn’t work.

From a Christian perspective, I agree that faith without works is dead. But socialism is not the answer my friend. To me the End does not Justify the Means

You have stated my position Guns=in=Moses. And I to, would like to know if this is actually SofT's writing.


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Willow

Veteran Member
I guess there is one thing I don't understand. Why is it that liberals think the government has a right to our hard earned money...when all liberals have to do is donate to their pet projects and worthy charities? If libs think taxes should be 50% or 75% of income to provide services for less fortunate people...why aren't they donating that money now? If all the libs decided to donate their incomes to the special charities or projects of their choice, there would be no need to whine about how people are dieing because there isn't enough money.

I donate generously to those causes I believe in. Most of the conservatives I know do exactly that. But it is our choice who we help and don't help. The libs have this option too. All they have to do is take money from their own accounts and donate. Very simple if you are willing to put your money where your mouth is!

Or...is it that they don't want to sacrifice their money because demanding everyone else feed their pet causes gets them off the hook and makes them look good on the surface?

Willow
 

maric

Short but deadly
Gawd SoT you've written some pure BS in the past but this one (IF you did write it) is the BSiest of 'em all.
How do you sleep at night?
 

KMR58

Veteran Member
Never argue with anyone dumber than you because onlookers won't see the difference. It is a waste of words to argue with a liberal socialist. They have an agenda - to take money from those who've worked hard for it and to give it to those who sit with their hands out.

The bible and our Savior tells us to look out for the widow and the orphan. Those are the people who cannot work for themselves.
 

WildDaisy

God has a plan, Trust it!
Its illegal for an employer to terminate an employee due to health reasons. So how did he lose his job because of his cancer?

It also appears that Jay has never lived in a country with socialized medicine and doesn't quite understand how it works beyond all the fluffy froo froo ideals of "free, free, free". Nothing is free, and socialized medicine would likely have never saved his friend. He would have been waiting too long to have diagnosed to begin with and would likely have been dead years ago before catching it the first time.
 

Missrebel

Standing by...
Obamacare and socialized medicine would have taken one look at the prognosis for your friend and found him to be a less than viable human who would be a drain on scant resources and would have shunted him to Hospice immediately following diagnosis. I am sorry for your friend. I am sorry that we all fall so far short of the true measure of love...a measure you would have defined by a government that would have us drink from a communal bucket...
A bucket by the way not good enough for the gov master to drink from...probably because it stinks of death.
 

Garf

Inactive
OK, here we are with a FAKE MONEY SYSTEM, controlled by a giant octopus; a bad newly passed "health care" system; the country is going down the tubes; the rich get richer (mostly by raping what's left of the economy); taxes are going up big time next year; people are still out of work by the millions; millions are losing their homes; we're supporting 30 million illegal aliens; we're supposedly being attacked by AQ; the upcoming elections may not solve ANYTHING (are they going to rescind all the Dems have done?); China is growling; the Pres is going out of town; they may take the internet down; spy apparatus, chemtrails, poison vaccinations, schools controlled by leftist agenda, dumbed down..... blah blah yadda yadda....... the NWO....

WHAT LIBERTY DO WE HAVE LEFT??? Are you serious??

*meh* - I'm going shopping.


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I think maybe the "*meh* - I'm going shopping." is largely what got you into the position you're in. I seldom hear the people own up to their own responsibility in this whole mess.

The politicians don't just walk into their positions by themselves. They are put there. And for the past number of years it's been based on slick hair, slick talk, and the "*meh* - I'm going shopping" attitude.
Would the founders have ever gotten the country off the ground with that attitude?
Just wondering.
 
UPDATE: I just came back from West Hartford where Glenn Beck was visiting for his book signing tour for Broke: The Plan to Restore Our Trust, Truth and Treasure where I was hoping to deliver my letter to him personally. I couldn't find my wallet before going, so when I got there I was surprised to learn you had to purchase the book from Barnes & Noble to get it signed (I bought my copy through Amazon), so I couldn't get in the ridiculously huge line to have my copy signed. I then checked with security to see if I could have my letter, along with a copy of Robert Buchar's book, And Reality Be Damned, be delivered to Beck to apprise him of the truly mortal threat posed to our nation by the forces of so-called "Communism" unbeknown to almost everyone. Unfortunately, there was no way to do this so I decided to leave.

As I was walking away, Glenn Beck's bus started to pull in so I stood beside it to see if I could hand him my letter and book as he went in. As I was waiting, an NPR correspondent started to preposition beside me and I joked with someone nearby that she best not mention if she gets nervous when she's on a plane boarded by Muslims. Soon someone came over and clued us in that Glenn was not on the bus and already had surreptitiously slipped into the bookstore. I then went into the store and asked one of the fellows that had stepped off the bus if he could hand Glenn my book and letter....again to no avail.

I decided to give up, but on the way out I handed my letter to the NPR gal and gave a quick interview regarding the message I was seeking to convey to Beck. In a nutshell, what I said is that America is not "Broke". Far from it. Our nation has wealth to the tune of $40 trillion (even if mostly 'fictitious') and that what is broken is Americans capacity to choose to share their wealth in order to take care of each other. I really could care less whether sharing is through the mechanism of our grossly inefficient and corrupted government or likely more efficient private organization, but the bottom line is that we have more than enough means to provide a modicum of decent healthcare to all and our failure to do so is why my friend Rodney is now fighting for his life for a condition that could have been treated early on for little cost such that his prognosis would be a full life instead of a death sentence as now appears to be the case. What's more, I mentioned that Glenn Beck does not speak for Christ and his message of freedom is more about freedom from responsibility to care for one another than anything else, and his idea of the "Golden Rule" is that gold 'rules' not God. This is antithetical to the message of love taught to this world by Jesus some 2000 years ago IMHO.

I don't know what will come of this, but if some beneficial meaning can be derived from the seemingly senseless tragedy into which my poor buddy Rod has been drawn, then thank God. I'm remiss to politicize the suffering of my friend in this contentious political season given what he's going through, but what God is speaking to my heart is that He is truth and so telling the truth, even if brutal, can not upset Him. To the contrary...
 

Hfcomms

EN66iq
Jay,

You really need to learn that God is soverign and nobody gets cancer or any other disease unless it crosses God's desk first (as it were). To equate someone getting cancer or dying from the disease because they don't have adequet health care is ludricrous. Hey, we all have a fatal disease already.....mortal life, and none of us are getting out alive unless Christ comes first. I have my problems with Mr. Beck as well and the only thing I will say about him is I think he is a well paid entertainer who sells a product. But to blame him or anything else for your friends cancer beggars the imagination. I used to question your sanity, I no longer do that as the evidence is obvious. As far as socialist universal health care goes you'll find out that the wealthy people in nations that have it spend their hard earned money to travel here for treatment. It's not by accident.
 

Michelle

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OMGGGGGGGG

I can not believe this....how stupid can one person be.....and you combine them all....it makes for pathetic STUPID FOOLS.....I am so tired of you democrats talking like your brains have melted out your butts!!!!!!!IF you think it is better to have health care that is for ALL.....and you think that you will get better care then move to canada and see how long those people wait for care!!!!....you are in line.....and you may die before you get your "turn"......in the USA more illegial migrant workers get free care than my boys get..that have been living here all their lives....and is that fair????????????? I have been a nurse for over 35 years.......do I get cheaper care? do I get free care...NOOOOOO I pay more then I care to admit to.....and do I think I want to also pay for your friend's care????????? NOOOOO I wish i could but dammmmm my friend...I have all I can do to pay my own bills....and I too have cancer.....and I too know ..if i had been in Canada ..i would have been in line waiting for my "turn"....the money I make is not yours....I work my ass off( in nursing ) while I am doing my own form of treatment for colon cancer....I can NOT AFFORD all the lab tests and chemo and everything that goes with the "normal" treatments for colon cancer.........as it is i am paying for 4 different bills right now......and all i have had done is a dr's visit and 4 lab tests to check on my cancer tags...which by the way is below the normal .....so what I am doing is working ...to keep cancer away ...so far..each person has to do for themselves!!!!!! do not expect others to take on YOUR bills....I sure as hell do not want them........Michelle in Maine
 

TheSearcher

Are you sure about that?
As far as socialist universal health care goes you'll find out that the wealthy people in nations that have it spend their hard earned money to travel here for treatment. It's not by accident.

This is EXACTLY on point. The reason the wealthy come here for such treatment is not JUST because they have the money, but that the medical treatment is available at all. Our health system is EXTREMELY good, even with all of the regulation we have NOW.

Obamacare will lessen the effectivness and availability of healthcare in this country, Jay. Your friend and others like him, and more people on top of THAT, will fare worse with the same and similar conditions.

Your concern for your friend and compassion for his suffering is commendable, but you're not looking at this clearly.
 

Garf

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this is just a reminder to those who think "free" health care is free.

Tax freedom day this year in the U.S. was April 9th. In Canada it was June 6th.
So that's two months more of donating 100% of your income to the government, for your "free" healthcare.

If you don't know what "tax freedom" day is...............if you worked all year, and decided to pay all your taxes for the year, at the beginning of the year, paying 100% of your income toward your tax bill, how long would you have to work into the year, before your burden was paid off?
Your "tax freedom" day, is when you've paid it off.

So those who pontificate for a "free" system, should take two full months of their income, and donate it to those BROTHERS, ( notice, it doesn't say "neighbours" in James 2:14-17.......big difference in Biblical terms, and as such would leave Glenn Beck out of the loop) who are less fortunate and in need.
Ummmm........anyone done that yet?
 

Emily

One Day Closer
So much wrong with the thinking in the OP.

1. Socialized medicine STILL only gives the good care to the rich and the poor stand in line waiting on their turn at limited resources while the rich pay their way to the head of the line.

2. While this person is railing against Glenn - have they considered that it is God who is calling them home and they are playing tug of war with God? Plus isn't there any responsibility on the individual's part for how they lived (ate, exercise or lack of it, etc.?)

This is the typical tripe from people who think blaming others is the road to a happy life.

Sometimes it is not a matter of a new form of political system that is contrary to how the human psyche works and the reality of limited resources and too many people demanding them - but it is this thing called 'life' and it isn't 'fair' and no one gets out of it alive.
 
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