Swine Flu Over? Guess Again -

NC Susan

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<dl><dt><center>[SIZE=+3]Swine Flu Over? Guess Again -
And The News Gets Worse
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[SIZE=+1]From Patricia Doyle, PhD
3-27-10[/SIZE]</center></dt></dl>http://rense.com/general90/swine.htm
<dl><dt><center> </center> </dt><dt><center><table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="555"> <tbody><tr> <td valign="TOP" width="100%"> <dl><dt>[SIZE=+1]Hello Jeff - Most people haven't a clue if they get their news from network talking head droids. There is a very disturbing situation that has begun - now H1N1 is resistant to the new antiviral in clinical trials. [/SIZE] </dt><dt> </dt><dt>[SIZE=+1]Giving antivirals to immune compromised individuals is, in my opinion, risky because their immune systems don't work properly.[/SIZE] </dt><dt> </dt><dt>[SIZE=+1]Patty[/SIZE] </dt><dt> </dt><dt> </dt><dt>[SIZE=+1]Source: PHYSORG.com News[/SIZE] </dt><dt>[SIZE=+1] [/SIZE]
</dt><dt>[SIZE=+1]Rapid development of drug-resistant 2009 H1N1 influenza reported in 2 cases[/SIZE] </dt><dt> </dt><dt> </dt><dt>[SIZE=+1]Doctors from the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID) report that 2 people with compromised immune systems who became ill with [pandemic (H1N1) 2009] influenza [virus infection] developed drug-resistant strains of virus after less than 2 weeks on therapy. Doctors who treat prolonged influenza infection should be aware that even a short course of antiviral treatment may lead to drug-resistant virus, say the authors, and clinicians should consider this possibility as they develop initial treatment strategies for their patients who have impaired immune function.[/SIZE] </dt><dt> </dt><dt>[SIZE=+1]Both patients in the new report developed resistance to the key influenza drug oseltamivir (Tamiflu), and one also demonstrated clinical resistance to another antiviral agent, now in experimental testing, intravenous peramivir, note senior authors Matthew J Memoli, MD, and Jeffery K Taubenberger, MD, PhD. This is the 1st reported case of clinically significant peramivir-resistant 2009 H1N1 illness, say the scientists. The report is scheduled to appear in print on 1 May [2010] in Clinical Infectious Diseases and is now online [MJ Memoli et al: Rapid selection of oseltamivir and peramivir resistant pandemic H1N1 during therapy in 2 immunocompromised hosts. Clinical Infectious Diseases DOI:10. 1086/651605 (2010)]. The people in the current case report had immune limitations due to blood stem cell transplants that occurred several years previously. Both recovered from their influenza infections.[/SIZE] </dt><dt> </dt><dt>[SIZE=+1]"While the emergence of drug-resistant influenza virus is not in itself surprising, these cases demonstrate that resistant strains can emerge after only a brief period of drug therapy," says NIAID Director Anthony S Fauci, MD. "We have a limited number of drugs available for treating influenza and these findings provide additional urgency to efforts to develop antivirals that attack influenza virus in novel ways."[/SIZE] </dt><dt> </dt><dt>[SIZE=+1]The pandemic (H1N1) 2009 influenza virus is susceptible to just one of the 2 available classes of anti-influenza drugs, the neuraminidase inhibitors. Besides oseltamivir, other neuraminidase inhibitors are zanamivir (Relenza), which is inhaled, and the intravenously administered investigational drug peramivir. As the H1N1 influenza pandemic unfolded, laboratory tests of virus strains isolated from patients showed that some strains contained a genetic mutation (the H275Y mutation) that makes the virus less susceptible to some neuraminidase inhibitors.[/SIZE] </dt><dt> </dt><dt>[SIZE=+1]The 2 people in the current case study had pre-existing medical conditions that impaired their immune system function before contracting 2009 H1N1 flu. Strains of pandemic (H1N1) 2009 virus containing the H275Y mutation had been reported previously in people with diminished immune function, but in previous cases the mutation arose after more than 24 days of continuous therapy. In the newly described cases, the mutation appeared after 14 days in one individual and after 9 days in the 2nd. "Although the recommended length of treatment with oseltamivir is 5 days, it is common for physicians to continue giving this 1st-line drug longer if the patient does not improve," says Dr Memoli.[/SIZE] </dt><dt> </dt><dt>[SIZE=+1]Both people in the current report received oseltamivir for extended periods but they continued to shed virus in their nasal secretions throughout treatment. When one patient's condition worsened despite 24 days of oseltamivir treatment, doctors administered peramivir for 10 days. The drug did not reduce viral shedding and the patient remained ill, demonstrating what the authors described as clinically significant resistance to peramivir. Next, doctors administered the only other available flu drug, zanamivir, for 10 days. The person then fully recovered.[/SIZE] </dt><dt> </dt><dt>[SIZE=+1]"Additional, larger studies are needed to further refine our findings," says Dr Memoli. "But these cases of rapid appearance of drug-resistant 2009 H1N1 influenza in immune-compromised patients are worrisome and should prompt clinicians to reconsider how they use available flu drugs."[/SIZE] </dt><dt> </dt><dt>[SIZE=+1]The mutation that allows the pandemic (H1N1) 2009 influenza virus to resist oseltamivir also significantly reduces the virus's susceptibility to peramivir. If a relatively short course of oseltamivir causes a mutant flu strain to emerge in a particular patient, that person may not respond to peramivir. Zanamivir might be a good choice if a patient does not respond within a few days to oseltamivir, Dr Memoli says. However, because zanamivir must be inhaled, patients who are very ill and whose breathing is mechanically supported cannot be given zanamivir.[/SIZE] </dt><dt> </dt><dt>[SIZE=+1]"As clinicians, we should carefully consider our treatment options and use all the drugs available to us wisely. This is especially important in a patient with prolonged infection or when an antiviral drug fails to cure the patient after the recommended course of treatment," says Dr Memoli.[/SIZE] </dt><dt> </dt><dt>[SIZE=+1]http://www.physorg.com/news188830290.html[/SIZE] </dt><dt> </dt><dt>[SIZE=+1] [/SIZE]
</dt><dt>[SIZE=+1]--[/SIZE] </dt><dt>[SIZE=+1]Communicated by[/SIZE] </dt><dt>[SIZE=+1]ProMED-mail[/SIZE] </dt><dt>[SIZE=+1]promed@promedmail.org[/SIZE] </dt><dt>[SIZE=+1] [/SIZE]
</dt><dt>[SIZE=+1]Previously it was reported that a kidney transplant patient in Western Australia developed resistance to oseltamivir and ultimately the patient's infection was cleared by zanamivir treatment (Medical Journal of Australia, 11 Jan 2010... http://www.mja.com.au/public/issues/192_03_010210/spe11148_fm.html[/SIZE] </dt><dt> </dt><dt>[SIZE=+1]Although both oseltamivir and zanamivir are inhibitors of the activity of the influenza virus neuraminidase protein, the oseltamivir-resistance (His274Tyr) mutation does not confer resistance to zanamivir. The interesting feature of the NIAID report is the rapidity of appearance of oseltamivir resistance and the lack of response to another antiviral agent, now in experimental testing, intravenous peramivir, which presumably has the same site of action as oseltamivir.[/SIZE] </dt><dt> </dt><dt>[SIZE=+1]One patient's infection was ultimately cleared by zanamivir treatment. It is not recorded if the patient's virus remained zanamivir sensitive. - Mod.CP][/SIZE] </dt><dt> </dt><dt> </dt><dt>[SIZE=+1]Patricia A. Doyle DVM, PhD Bus Admin, Tropical Agricultural Economics Univ of West Indies Please visit my "Emerging Diseases" message board at:http://www.emergingdisease.org/phpbb/index.php Also my new website: http://drpdoyle.tripod.com/ Zhan le Devlesa tai sastimasa Go with God and in Good Health [/SIZE] </dt></dl> </td></tr> </tbody></table> </center> </dt><dt><center> </center> </dt><dt><center>
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ejagno

Veteran Member
Nope, it's still going strong. My mother and father in law are in their 4th week of the horrible side affects of this terrible flu. They are both in their late 70's and this has really knocked them down big time.
 

ainitfunny

Saved, to glorify God.
TIP:"Germ Guardian" UV-C air sanitizer on saleat Costco online till Dec 19 for $64.89

Just wanted to give members a heads up on new GERM Guardian UV-C ultraviolet ROOM air purifier/sanitizers are on sale at Costco till DEC 19th for $64.89 plus shipping.

These things kill any germs in the air, something to have for the sickroom at least if flu hits bad again.

I have not seen them for sale new at this low a price anywhere else.
http://www.costco.com/Browse/Product.aspx?Prodid=11116287
 

Be Well

may all be well
Flu is really getting bad in the UK and will be here in the US soon. Mostly swine, looks as though it's gone through some mutations and gets deeper in the lungs. Looks from my reading that vaxing or even previous infection may not help much; or may even make it worse. :shkr:

I read daily on the PFI forum since they are easy to follow and have just about the most news about flu stuff.

I'm posting the links below since the herbalist is a personal internet buddy and is not only very knowledgeable but a wise and good soul. I make my own herbs and formulas but I am a small time person and I could not possibly sell over the internet, just have a small clientele. I'm posting the links now because I want people to be protected as much as they can from whatever kind of much worse flu than last year is upon us.

http://lifewurx.com/

http://lifewurx.com/LifeWurx_Toolset_Links.htm

Here is his email and he works with people about what might be best for them:

NS1@GeneWurx.com
 

Amberglass

Inactive
It 's not pretty!

BFC..my DD caught it twice in fall of 2009. The first round she was hospitalized in isolation...the second time we caught it fast enough and she was placed on Tamiflu. I couldn't believe how sick she was, something I will never forget.

There was a teenager in my neck of the woods at the same time with swine flu. He was feeling sick while playing hockey. He had been iffy for a few days but wanted to go to hockey anyway.....he died that night and his main complaint was the pain in his legs. It was swine flu.

One of DD's main complaints through it all and for weeks after was leg pain. She is very athletic but could barely climb or descend stairs. Ibuprofin etc helped a bit, but the thing that helped the most was curcumin. She had a high fever but felt like she was cooking from the inside .

She wanted to lie in the cold empty bathtub because it was so cool in there. It broke my heart to see her so sick....She felt like she was cooking from the inside out, it was so bad. I kept her isolated from the rest of the family and was very cautious handling anything after caring for her...Lysol was my BF. It worked, she was the only one that caught it. After that scare, we get out vaccines good and early. I never want to see anyone sick with swine flu again. * shudder*
 

Be Well

may all be well
Emerg Infect Dis Journal Volume 17, Number 2–February 2011

Possible increased pathogenicity of pandemic (H1N1) 2009 influenza virus upon reassortment.

Research

Eefje J.A. Schrauwen, Sander Herfst, Salin Chutinimitkul, Theo M. Bestebroer, Guus F. Rimmelzwaan,
Albert D.M.E. Osterhaus, Thijs Kuiken, and Ron A.M. Fouchier. Author affiliation:
National Influenza Centre and Erasmus Medical Center Department of Virology, Rotterdam, the Netherlands

AbstractSince emergence of the pandemic (H1N1) 2009 virus in April 2009, three influenza A viruses—seasonal (H3N2), seasonal (H1N1), and pandemic (H1N1) 2009—have circulated in humans. Genetic reassortment between these viruses could result in enhanced pathogenicity. We compared 4 reassortant viruses with favorable in vitro replication properties with the wild-type pandemic (H1N1) 2009 virus with respect to replication kinetics in vitro and pathogenicity and transmission in ferrets. Pandemic (H1N1) 2009 viruses containing basic polymerase 2 alone or in combination with acidic polymerase of seasonal (H1N1) virus were attenuated in ferrets. In contrast, pandemic (H1N1) 2009 with neuraminidase of seasonal (H3N2) virus resulted in increased virus replication and more severe pulmonary lesions. The data show that pandemic (H1N1) 2009 virus has the potential to reassort with seasonal influenza viruses, which may result in increased pathogenicity while it maintains the capacity of transmission through aerosols or respiratory droplets.

Schrauwen EJA, Herfst S, Chutinimitkul S, Bestebroer TM, Rimmelzwaan GF, Osterhaus ADME, et al.
Possible increased pathogenicity of pandemic (H1N1) 2009 influenza virus upon reassortment.
Emerg Infect Dis [serial on the Internet]. 2011 Feb [date cited].

ttp://www.cdc.gov/EID/content/17/2/200.htm
 

BigFootsCousin

Molon Labe!
It 's not pretty!

BFC..my DD caught it twice in fall of 2009. The first round she was hospitalized in isolation...the second time we caught it fast enough and she was placed on Tamiflu. I couldn't believe how sick she was, something I will never forget.

There was a teenager in my neck of the woods at the same time with swine flu. He was feeling sick while playing hockey. He had been iffy for a few days but wanted to go to hockey anyway.....he died that night and his main complaint was the pain in his legs. It was swine flu.

One of DD's main complaints through it all and for weeks after was leg pain. She is very athletic but could barely climb or descend stairs. Ibuprofin etc helped a bit, but the thing that helped the most was curcumin. She had a high fever but felt like she was cooking from the inside .

She wanted to lie in the cold empty bathtub because it was so cool in there. It broke my heart to see her so sick....She felt like she was cooking from the inside out, it was so bad. I kept her isolated from the rest of the family and was very cautious handling anything after caring for her...Lysol was my BF. It worked, she was the only one that caught it. After that scare, we get out vaccines good and early. I never want to see anyone sick with swine flu again. * shudder*


I heard a lot of this from children this weekend. I thought it strange....

BFC
 

shinerbock

Innocent Bystander
My cousin's spouse returned from a Carribean vacation over two weeks ago. Once back in the states she realized she was ill [this is an RN & X-Ray tech]. Two days later my cousin took her to the ER with a 103.8 temp, weakness and wheezing. She was immediately directed to a hospital an hour away where she was immediately intubated and placed on a medicopter for a university hospital.

She had pneumonia in both lungs and went into a coma for a few days. She spent nearly two weeks on a respirator before being released to go home for bed rest. It turns out she had both HN51 Avian flu and swine flu. The patient was 52, in good health, and knowlegeable. Her case reminds me of the husband of momof23goats recently chronicled here on the main forum except that there was no cardiac involvement.

FWIW her husband came down with a mild case of flu the same week and was not allowed to visit his wife in the hospital because of his exposure. He had received this year's flu shot, his wife had not.
 
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