ALERT ANOTHER HYDER FLARE

Rex Jackson

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Getting details now. This is very serious seeing a) they are rare, b) this current solar cycle is all messed up c) we had a hyder flare a week and a half ago. Hydrer flares are rare and very unpredictable. Sometimes when they collapse, they produce a powerful CME capable of disrupting electronics on Earth. Given the fact that Earth and Sun's shields have been weakened over the last year by some anomaly, our protection is weakened greatly. A hyder flare of this size under these conditions could do nothing at all, or in worse case scenarios, drop the grid...indefinitely.

http://www.spaceweather.com/
 
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CelticRose

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Rex Jackson said:
Getting details now. This is very serious seeing a) they are rare, b) this current solar cycle is all messed up c) we had a hyder flare a week and a half ago.

http://www.spaceweather.com/
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In general, how often have hydra flares been known to happen in the past?

From the other thread on this topic and now this one, I keep having a sense of ill-ease ... The 'kill shot' thing by Ed Dames ........
 
BV141

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I thought the last hyder flare collapse back into the sun occurred 20 hours BEFORE the Chile 8.8 earthquake...

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Rex Jackson

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This weeks filament is on the upper left hand side of the Sun where last week was lower left. Its been my concern that we would see more. It could be a sign that we best get used to. These things remind me of playing Russian Roulette. You just never know if its going to be a kill shot. This is only the third one Ive ever see in the 9 years Ive been watching the Sun. To see two huge ones back to back, is beyond alarming. Especially being as long as 1/3 of the Sun.

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Rex Jackson

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CelticRose said:
In general, how often have hydra flares been known to happen in the past?

From the other thread on this topic and now this one, I keep having a sense of ill-ease ... The 'kill shot' thing by Ed Dames ........
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I remember 3 in 10 years. I have been notified that there have been more, but I did see them. Keep in mind this one, like last week is MASSIVE. Not only is a massive hyder flare rare, but its unheard of.
 
CelticRose

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Thank you, Rex!!

Given that sort of history of these events, as you relate them, should be a wake-up call.

I'd imagine / hope that not just our government but all governments, would be watching this .........

Not sure if anything could be done......

My gut feeling that IF ( a big IF) they saw an event that was potentially deadly, the availability for 'average folks' to link to sites that showed solar activity, would go dark ..............
 
CelticRose

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BV141 said:
I thought the last hyder flare collapse back into the sun occurred 20 hours BEFORE the Chile 8.8 earthquake...

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Hopefully that was just a terrible coincidence.

However ............ If another 7plus quake occurs in the same wort of time window............ :shkr:
 
Rex Jackson

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handy1 said:
Could this be whats causing the runaway Toyota problem?
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Interesting thought, but I'm not seeing any disturbances at the links below to say we have effects here yet. But, who knows. Everything is out of whack lately. The magnetosphere is still being bashed though. That is why the hyders have me so concerned.

MONITOR THE SUNS EFFECTS ON EARTH
http://www.n3kl.org/sun/noaa.html
http://www.swpc.noaa.gov/ace/MAG_SWEPAM_7d.html
http://solarimg.org/files/realtime/display.php


MAGNETOSPHERE
http://www2.nict.go.jp/y/y223/simulation/realtime/index.html
 
Tundra Gypsy

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I too, wonder if the hyder flare had a link to the Chile earthquake. And I wonder what happened to the earth when we had two other flare activities a few years back.

If we are going to experience another situation like the February 27th event; I'd suggest anyone living along the western coast line of the US, the area near the New Madrid Fault line, and the area along Vancouver be warned of a potential, large earth movement. Be watchful and be prepared.

Thanks for the information; please keep us updated.
 
LoupGarou

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Rex Jackson said:
This weeks filament is on the upper left hand side of the Sun where last week was lower left.
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Interesting thought on that matter that I have been thinking for the last few days:

What if the locations (lat/lon) on the sun, are tied through the IMF to the Earth and other planets directly?
Lower left on the sun last week=Chile
Upper left on the sun now=(Somewhere on the west coast or midwest of the US)?

Just wondering.
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handy1 said:
Could this be whats causing the runaway Toyota problem?
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This was happening long before these current solar events.

No, I'm betting that it is either bad software in one or more networked modules, or there is a local strong RF source (ie. GSM cell phone) causing the problem. (Remember the fun that the RF sources in the Empire State building were doing with cars?...).

Loup
 
CelticRose

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LoupGarou said:
Interesting thought on that matter that I have been thinking for the last few days:

What if the locations (lat/lon) on the sun, are tied through the IMF to the Earth and other planets directly?
Lower left on the sun last week=Chile
Upper left on the sun now=(Somewhere on the west coast or midwest of the US)?

Just wondering.
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This was happening long before these current solar events.

No, I'm betting that it is either bad software in one or more networked modules, or there is a local strong RF source (ie. GSM cell phone) causing the problem. (Remember the fun that the RF sources in the Empire State building were doing with cars?...).

Loup
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What if the locations (lat/lon) on the sun, are tied through the IMF to the Earth and other planets directly?
Lower left on the sun last week=Chile
Upper left on the sun now=(Somewhere on the west coast or midwest of the US)?

Well both of those locations are 'due' if one looks at the last couple of serious quakes in CA (Loma Prieta and the Northridge) and the New Madrid fault has been quiet for a long time, and some think the smaller shakers in its area, could be indications of it building up for more serious activity ........

And i suppose I don't need to mention the swarms of quakes in / around Yellowstone ..........
 
Heliobas Disciple

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Actually there are TWO of them right now.

http://www.spaceweather.com/
(fair use applies)


Yesterday's space weather blurb:

SOLAR FILAMENTS: Today, astronomers around the world are monitoring a pair of dark magnetic filaments on the sun.

The largest filament, which is curling over the sun's northeastern limb, stretches at least 50,000 km from end to end. SOHO has been monitoring the plasma-filled behemoth for more than three days: movie.

http://www.spaceweather.com/swpod2010/07mar10/filament.gif?PHPSESSID=4csm5m6dv81enjmk6ske8n7hs1

How long can this filament hold itself up? If it collapses and hits the stellar surface, the impact could produce a powerful hyder flare (see: http://www.ips.gov.au/Educational/2/4/1 ). Readers with solar telescopes are encouraged to monitor developments.
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Today's space weather blurb:

DARK FILAMENT: For the 4th day in a row, the Solar and Heliospheric Observatory (SOHO) is tracking a dark magnetic filament curling over the sun's northeastern limb. Click on the image to launch a movie recorded by the observatory's extreme ultraviolet telescope:

http://www.spaceweather.com/swpod2010/09mar10/filament_anim.gif?PHPSESSID=j4l6pu4n4vj87qq43fa0114l71

The massive, plasma-filled filament has been remarkably stable since SOHO first spotted it on March 5th. However, filaments like this have been known to collapse. If this one does and hits the stellar surface, the impact could produce a powerful Hyder flare. Readers with solar telescopes are encouraged to monitor developments.
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See also this thread for another possible solar anomaly currently occuring:
http://www.timebomb2000.com/vb/showthread.php?t=356461

HD
 
knickgnat

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See Posts on Earth Changes Board

Just posted two articles on tendrils, sun quakes, and solar flares. The original discussion started because of unusual sun pics....veeeery interesting...
 
Kalliope

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Well, I am trying to send a link to Super Moon Full moons, we've had 3 in a row, Dec, Jan, Feb, and they are linked to earthquakes. The author predicted them accurately the last couple of months. His site is down at the moment.

Also, we are still in Mars Maximum, which also triggers earthquakes and anger. The guy who used his plane in Austin was born during a Mars Maximum, and so was the lady in Alabama. Something about Mars Maximum's trigger mass shootings. We will be in Mars Maximum till the middle of May.

"Mars turned a corner in the heavens last month, so to speak: the Red Planet’s daily motion through Earth’s sky dropped below its mean motion for the first time since April, 2008. This relative slow-down points to the upcoming Red Planet retrograde, which begins on December 20; and it indicates the beginning of the biennial Mars perigee, as Mars and our home planet move toward their close approach during the full moon Sun-Mars opposition on January 29, 2010. From now until then, Mars gets brighter and bigger in the night sky, culminating in the late January, 2010 perigee. Likewise, all things pertaining to Mars loom larger and larger in human experience during this period: haste, heat, fire, danger and conflict literally and figuratively are more and more on the rise during the Mars Maximum that holds sway from now into late May, 2010. "

October 2009 Future

"Heat, fire, danger and conflict literally and figuratively are abundant all month under the aegis of the Mars Maximum. Elevated tension levels make for the kind of atmosphere that cultivates inflamed passions, hot tempers and rash, even violent action - from interpersonal violence including school and workplace shootings and mass murder to spree killings. This operates at the collective as well as the individual level; which means that terrorist atrocities and international tensions ranging from saber-rattling all the way to military conflict will remain much in the news, as they have since the current Mars Maximum began in September. "

February 2010 Futures

http://www.astropro.com/forecast/predict/2010-02.html

Next Super Moon Full Moon will be in August. Something to write down now, and keep an eye on his predictions.

BTW - he does global astrology, not personal charts.
 
LoupGarou

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Sully said:
Loup, what is a 'RF' source?

Sully
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Radio Frequency. An RF source is any kind of transmitter that generates and radiates a signal in the electromagnetic spectrum up to just under Infrared Light. This includes handheld transmitters (like FRS/GMRS radios), Amateur radios, Cellphones, and other transmitters. Plus, there are a lot of things that are called "unintentional radiators" that are transmitting RF but are not designed to transmit RF, these include things like Computers, Arc Welders, and other electronics.

GSM phones are by far the most interesting type of cellphone as far as interaction with other electronics. They have been the cause for everything from run away electric wheelchairs, to blown up computer speakers. Lot's of RF (more than a normal cellphone), and wild digital modulation. A CDMA cellphone has NOTHING as far as wild RF compared to a GSM phone.

Loup
 
packyderms_wife

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LoupGarou said:
Radio Frequency. An RF source is any kind of transmitter that generates and radiates a signal in the electromagnetic spectrum up to just under Infrared Light. This includes handheld transmitters (like FRS/GMRS radios), Amateur radios, Cellphones, and other transmitters. Plus, there are a lot of things that are called "unintentional radiators" that are transmitting RF but are not designed to transmit RF, these include things like Computers, Arc Welders, and other electronics.

GSM phones are by far the most interesting type of cellphone as far as interaction with other electronics. They have been the cause for everything from run away electric wheelchairs, to blown up computer speakers. Lot's of RF (more than a normal cellphone), and wild digital modulation. A CDMA cellphone has NOTHING as far as wild RF compared to a GSM phone.

Loup
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thread drift my bad...

Seems I read somewhere last fall that once Mars starts to leave Jupiter comes in close??? And when it does it basically sets humanity up for a dictator?
 
Guns-N-Moses

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Sully said:
Loup, what is a 'RF' source?

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(Loup, correct me if I'm wrong),

I believe that Loup is referring to Radio Frequency interference.

This is a phenomenon in which certain electronic devices can emit a signal, which can interfere with other devices in its proximity.

Some can even send false signals, which could conceivably cause the scenario you mentioned.

An example is the recommendation for persons with a pacemaker to avoid being close to a microwave oven.

The electrical signals produced by the microwave are such that they can interfere and perhaps interrupt the proper operation of the pacemaker, which could be lethal.
 
Sully

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LoupGarou said:
Radio Frequency. An RF source is any kind of transmitter that generates and radiates a signal in the electromagnetic spectrum up to just under Infrared Light. This includes handheld transmitters (like FRS/GMRS radios), Amateur radios, Cellphones, and other transmitters. Plus, there are a lot of things that are called "unintentional radiators" that are transmitting RF but are not designed to transmit RF, these include things like Computers, Arc Welders, and other electronics.

GSM phones are by far the most interesting type of cellphone as far as interaction with other electronics. They have been the cause for everything from run away electric wheelchairs, to blown up computer speakers. Lot's of RF (more than a normal cellphone), and wild digital modulation. A CDMA cellphone has NOTHING as far as wild RF compared to a GSM phone.

Loup
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Thanks...that's what I thought but wasn't sure.
So...can RF sources be directed at specific targets or does it happen accidentally?
Sorry, I'm just not science smart.

Sully
 
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BV141 said:
I thought the last hyder flare collapse back into the sun occurred 20 hours BEFORE the Chile 8.8 earthquake...

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IIRC it was approx 48 hrs. It was said at that time any effects wouldn't be noticed until 48-72 hrs afterwards...around 48hrs later we had the 8.8 Chile Quake



ETA: OK, I went back through posts here and found a post that alerted us the first Hyder flare collapsed that post was on Wed 2/24 at approx 14:00 pacific time.

Flare collapsed approx 14:00 Wed 2/24
8.8 chile occurred approx 23:30 Friday 2/26 <--- Please note this is Pacific time and Saturday 27th in Eastern time zone
 
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Guns-N-Moses

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Double_A said:
IIRC it was approx 48 hrs. It was said at that time any effects wouldn't be noticed until 48-72 hrs afterwards...around 48hrs later we had the 8.8 Chile Quake
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Anyone know when this new one was first detected? (UTC time/date).

If this latest CME event has the same effect as the last one (i.e. Chile), perhaps we could have a window of time to look at.

If it occurred close to the time that Rex Jackson posted (11AM Eastern Time) and 'if' we see the same results (based on BV141's timeframe of 20 hours) - could another quake occur tomorrow morning ~ 7AM Eastern Time?

Or if we postulate Double_A's timeframe of 48-72 hours, we could be looking at an event Thursday or Friday morning.

I guess we'll see?
 
BV141

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Guns-N-Moses said:
Anyone know when this new one was first detected? (UTC time/date).

If this latest CME event has the same effect as the last one (i.e. Chile), perhaps we could have a window of time to look at.
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The EQ window starts when the hyder flare collapses back into the sun (or so goes the theory.)

So initial detection time is not a factor unless you are trying to determine when the Hyder flare will collpase back to the sun, then add up to 48 hours..

bv
 
LoupGarou

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Sully said:
Thanks...that's what I thought but wasn't sure.
So...can RF sources be directed at specific targets or does it happen accidentally?
Sorry, I'm just not science smart.

Sully
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I'm not talking about HERF (RF transmitter) guns that are designed to disable electronics. I'm thinking more like the car's owner unknowingly puts their GSM phone in the cupholder, or on top the dash, or just near the console, and the GSM phone (in it's normal "talking" to the cell sites as it moves along) ends up transmitting bad signals into the car's electronics.

There are numerous devices that a GSM phone will mess up, I'm thinking that maybe these networked modules are also in that category.

ETA: If you have amplified speakers on your PC (the speakers have their own power cord going to the wall outlet), place your cellphone near the signal cable from the computer to the speakers, turn up the volume, and see if you hear anything. If you have a CDMA phone, you might hear something. If you have a GSM phone, you almost certainly will hear something...

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packyderms_wife,

You lost me on the Mars and Jupiter thing. I am assuming that you are talking about astrology or something?

Loup
 
Tundra Gypsy

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Please let us know when the hyder flare collapses back into the sun; that is when the clock starts ticking for potential large earthquakes.
 
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Does anyone have any links supporting the Hyder flare/ earthquake connection? It looks like the last one collapsed on the 24Feb and the Chile quake was 27Feb but I cant find info on earlier Hyder flares.
 
pauldingbabe

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ok so totally off topic but....

In the good book...aren't there supposed to be major earthquakes and 1/3 of the land burned?

the bowl judgments i believe ( im guessing so if im wrong pls feel free to correct)

just saying...
 
Rex Jackson

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Double_A said:
IIRC it was approx 48 hrs. It was said at that time any effects wouldn't be noticed until 48-72 hrs afterwards...around 48hrs later we had the 8.8 Chile Quake
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I would have to guess that beings as massive as it is the effect felt on Earth would arrive much sooner than the smaller ones of the past. Given the fact that the Sun's heliosphere is being blasted by the same anomaly that is blasting Earths magnetoshere, that too should increase intensity and arrival times..but who knows. I do know the we must use old models with caution and consideration. I think its all new for all of us.
 
Rex Jackson

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Heliobas Disciple said:
Actually there are TWO of them right now.

http://www.spaceweather.com/
(fair use applies)

Yesterday's space weather blurb:
Today's space weather blurb:

See also this thread for another possible solar anomaly currently occuring:
http://www.timebomb2000.com/vb/showthread.php?t=356461

HD
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This is my greatest concern and I mentioned this in the other Hyder thread last week. I'm concerned that the Sun will increase with more and more of these followed by intense storming.

If I were president, I would immediately take all spent nuclear rods cooling in pools, and bury them somewhere. I would also gradually shut down all the reactors, at least the ones near populated cities and strategic infrastructure....but I'm over protective so yeah,...maybe they will just go away with prayer.
 
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