DISASTER Could Oil Drilling Have Caused The Haiti Quake?

Warthog

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BIG OIL BEHIND HAITI QUAKE?

By Victor Thorn

Did American petroleum companies murder hundreds of thousands of Haitians while extracting oil from their shores? In an exclusive Jan. 28 interview, social commentator and human rights attorney Ezili Danto believes “hydraulic fracturing” caused by drillers searching for oil may have caused the Jan. 12 earthquake.

Yes, oil is Haiti’s smoking gun. Why do you think 20,000 American troops now occupy and control this impoverished nation? On Jan. 28, 2009, geologist Daniel Mathurin revealed, “Haiti’s oil reserves are larger than those of Venezuela. An Olympic pool compared to a glass of water is the comparison.”

Indeed, Haiti may have 20 times more oil than Venezuela. Daniel and Ginette Mathurin mapped 20 oil sites (five of them major), and, oddly enough, the quake’s epicenter occurred in the exact same area where the Port-au-Prince resources exist. Imagine, one of the largest caches of oil in the Western Hemisphere, and now over a million residents are displaced or deceased.

In a Jan. 26 commentary, Pastor Chuck Baldwin asked, “Why was an
earthquake of this magnitude not felt beyond Port-au-Prince?” He continues, “People living in the adjoining country of Dominican Republic universally say they felt nothing.” He concludes, “It is being called ‘miraculous’ that an earthquake measuring 7.0 on the Richter scale did not
produce a colossal tsunami.”

Ms. Danto also found the localized destruction very suspicious.



“Port-au-Prince hasn’t had an earthquake since 1771,” she said. “What we’re seeing is similar to Hurricane Katrina. Look at how many people never returned to where they originally lived. Perhaps the oil cartels needed to get rid of certain people near the coastline where they wanted it cleared. If Haiti were a piece of dirt with just black people and no oil or minerals, they would have left us alone. We wouldn’t see all the investment money and troops; nor would the U.S. have built the fifth largest embassy in the world in this tiny little country.”

To whom specifically is she referring? U.S. companies have known since 1908 that Haiti teemed with oil reserves. In the 1950s and 1960s, two different contractors were bought off to not develop these sites. CIA files also show that the U.S. Agency for International Development (USAID) verified contracts in 1962 regarding these possible oil reserve sites.

Ms. Danto explores the economic ramifications of this situation: “Oil companies in the 1960s and 1970s didn’t want to add more supply to the market and allow prices to plummet,” she said. “So, they locked down these deposits and kept them in reserve until the 21st century when Middle Eastern reserves began waning. For the past 50 years, Haiti has been called the Western Hemisphere’s poorest country. Oil profits could have vastly changed the lives of these people. Now we’re being fleeced, and our resources are being stolen. Haiti has always been a dumping ground, including the theft of our forests and minerals.”

In mining Haiti’s riches, Ms. Danto recounts, “There were areas in Haiti hidden behind UN guns, fenced off where Haitians knew nothing about what these soldiers were doing,” she said. “There were barricades around Port-au-Prince, and we couldn’t see what the UN soldiers were doing. This activity started after the Bush-led coup d’�tat in 2004. The areas blocked off were the same places where experts said oil reserves existed.”

To illustrate the abundance of this natural resource, Dr. Georges Michel wrote on March 27, 2004, “In 1975 we bathed in the waters of Les Cayes and noticed that our feet were covered by a sort of black oil seeping from the seabed.”

An even more interesting point is Ms. Danto’s revelation that a series of minor “earthquakes” registering near 2.0 on the Richter scale have been occurring for the past couple of years. A geologist also informed her that the 7.0 earthquake took place six miles below where oil companies were drilling.

Also curious is a Jan. 15 statement by Bob Brewin, a military-technology writer and editor at the popular web site Next Gov.com. Brewin said that one day prior to the earthquake, Jean Demay of the Defense Information Systems Agency visited the U.S. Southern Command in Miami, where U.S. forces were conducting exercises on how to deal with a major earthquake in Haiti.

Indeed, one day later this catastrophe transpired. As the U.S. military now controls Port-au-Prince, are U.S. government efforts to rebuild their infrastructure simply a ruse to grab Haiti’s oil?

Ms. Danto answers this question very adroitly. “Most of Haiti’s major deep water ports have been privatized since the Bush 2004 regime change in Haiti.” She then noted in 2009, “If there are substantial oil and gas reserves in Haiti, the U.S.-Euro genocide and crimes against the Haitian population has not begun.”

Victor Thorn is a hard-hitting researcher, journalist and the author of many books on 9-11 and the New World Order. These include 9-11 Evil: The Israeli Role in 9-11 and Phantom Flight 93.

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PCViking

Lutefisk Survivor
Yes, oil is Haiti’s smoking gun. Why do you think 20,000 American troops now occupy and control this impoverished nation? On Jan. 28, 2009, geologist Daniel Mathurin revealed, “Haiti’s oil reserves are larger than those of Venezuela. An Olympic pool compared to a glass of water is the comparison.”

Who-a Warthog, excellent find... did the drilling cause the quake? unlikely... But is sure paints a clear picture of why the US military is so keen on providing aid there. Whadda ya think, will the US Military will be providing aid there for a very long time.

:vik:
 

Jefiner

Inactive
Earthquakes happen; and that part of the Caribbean is tectonically active, with multiple fault zones, island arcs and active volcanoes. Really, two hundred years is less than a blink of the eye in the scope of geologic time.

This reminds me of the voices blaming Bush for the 2004 Sumatra earthquake/tsunami. I think humanity gets waaay too much credit for it's ability to influence natural forces. The earth was a parking lot before, and it will be a parking lot again.:screw:

Now, military intentions . . . that's a whole 'nother kettle of fish. I guess I would rather have the US military in Port au Prince versus the Venezuelan "advisors".
 

Blastoff

Veteran Member
Why do you think 20,000 American troops now occupy and control this impoverished nation?

I'm sorry, but if your stats aren't verifiable....I found "9,000 UN peacekeepers" and "10,000 American troops."
 

Hokey

Veteran Member
Bovine excrement!!

No chance in hell any drilling or fracturing caused this earthquake! Jeesh, i wish people would learn a little bit about geology and understand the immense geologic forces involved in earthquakes before commenting on such things. The internet is full of idiots.
 

buff

Deceased
Did American petroleum companies murder hundreds of thousands of Haitians while extracting oil from their shores?

everything and I mean everything is America's fault...its getting old...

:screw:
 

undead

Veteran Member
"...In an exclusive Jan. 28 interview, social commentator and human rights attorney Ezili Danto believes...."

Yes, that's where you should learn your geology - from left-wing sociologists.


:lkick::lkick::lkick::lkick::lkick:
 

Cardinal

Chickministrator
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If TPTB aren't going to tap Alaska's supposedly huge oil reserves, I doubt they will touch Haiti's.
Cause the last conspiracy theory I read stated that they don't want more oil.
 

ivantherussian03

Veteran Member
documentation, documentation, documentation


Interesting yarn, but not worth much....

I'd be interested in the oil data....I am getting tired of the conspiracy theories about the US hiding "massive oil reserves". It does not match up.
 

Troke

Deceased
:prfl:

Haiti, which anybody could have bought for chump change for years has oil?

That's kind of like the NATION Mag. that argued for years that we were in VietNam because of all the oil there.

Anybody care to give a estimate of oil production for VN?

I thought not.
 

BlueNewton

Membership Revoked
I would be interested to find verification of the claims about oil in Haiti. If there is truth to that, it would explain a lot. As for drilling causing the earthquake and being a reason why it was limited in area--don't think so.
 

adgal

Veteran Member
Didn't Pat Robertson already let us know why Haiti had the earthquake - it was because of the pact they made with Satan./sarcasm off :shr:
 

dissimulo

Membership Revoked
When I want to know about geology, I figure there is no better source of information than a human rights attorney.
 

Wardogs

Inactive
The question of whether Haiti has oil is still unclear, but the assertion that "hydraulic fracturing” caused by drillers searching for oil may have caused the Jan. 12 earthquake" is absurd on the face of it. THERE IS NO DRILLING FOR OIL IN HAITI, EXPLORATORY OR OTHERWISE, and hasn't been for a number of years. The conspiracy sites that push this nonsense refer either to a 1920's survey that showed promising Limestone formations, Aristade's book from 2000 or just plain make it up. The only serious study was in 1979 where a total of 11 test wells, spread around the country, were drilled. Only four of those showed the possibility of oil but with no estimation of size or quality and have not been explored further. Those wells shut down in 1979 and have not restarted since.

In his book,"Drill, and then pump the oil of Haiti!", published in '08, novelist Roberson Alphonse refers to this study and calls for the question to be settled one way or the other as a means to relieve Haiti's crushing poverty. Some excerpts:

Drill, and then pump the oil of Haiti!
by Roberson Alphonse, Nouvelliste, June 18, 2008, Unofficial translation by Ezili Danto, June 25, 2008
http://www.lenouvelliste.com/article.php?PubID=1&ArticleID=58777&PubDate=2008-06-22

"...The signs, (indicators), justifying the explorations of oil (black gold) in Haiti are encouraging. In the middle of the oil shock, some 4 companies want official licenses from the Haitian State to drill for oil.

Oil prices rose to a record high $140 US dollars per barrel. In the middle of the oil shock, Haiti which imports hundreds of millions of dollars of Diesel each year, all to produce electricity, seems to have a card to play. Its small, formerly despised deposits, now seems to be generating much interest. "We've received four requests for oil exploration permits", confided the engineer Dieuseul Anglade, general director of the Office of Mining and Energy. The Haitian State wants to be sure these companies have the requisite expertise in the matter", he added. "We have had encouraging indicators to justify the pursuit of the exploration of black gold (oil), which had stopped in 1979", he estimated.

Some 11 wells, with a certain depth of 2944 meters were drilled at the Plaine du Cul-de-sac on the Plateau Central and at L'ile de La Gonâve. Surface (tentative) indicators for oil were found at the Southern peninsula and on the North coast, explained the engineer Anglade, who strongly believes in the immediate commercial viability of these explorations.

According to a memo dated back to August 16, 1979, written by master diller François Lamothe to Mr. Emmanuel Broth, five big wells were drilled at Porto Suel (Maissade) of a depth of 9000 feet, at Bebernal, 9000 feet, at Bois- Carradeux (Ouest), at Dumornay, on the road Route Frère and close to the Chemin de Fer of Saint-Marc. A sample, a "carrot" (oil reservoir) drilled up from the well of Saint-Marc in the Artibonite underwent a physical-chemical analysis in Munich, Germany, at the request of Mr. Broth. "The result of the analysis was returned on October 11, 1979 and revealed tracks of oil", confided the engineer, Willy Clémens, who had gone to Germany.

"It is necessary to drill then to pump the oil of Haiti, if we actually have it, declared a skeptical geologist, a bit annoyed by the declarations without scientific proof. If we have black gold (oil), our dear friends in the international community and Hugo Chavez must help us in order to realize exploration studies. Only this proof will provide peace of mind," he insisted.

Oil prices rose a record high $140 dollars per barrel last Monday. In spite of the promises of OPEP to increase the production of black gold to help calm fears in the marketplace, the oil consumers are frenzily speculating, making strategic stock purchases in anticipation of a winter windfall. Even if the rises in prices, flattens out under the bar of $135 per barrel, Analysts agree the rising trend in oil prices risk reaching $150, if not $200 per barrel before the end of the year.

In Haiti where the true oil potential remains fuzzy, some say: Drill, then pump the oil of Haiti! If there's oil..."


The upshot is that while there are preliminary signs that there might be some oil on the Island of Hispaniola, (the Dominican Republic occupies the eastern 2/3 of the island), there has been no real effort to gauge the scope or size of those reserves, if any. In fact, the latest listings of known oil and gas reserves world wide list Haiti as having zero...nada...zip.

World Proved Reserves of Oil and Natural Gas, Most Recent Estimates
http://www.eia.doe.gov/emeu/international/reserves.html

The same for the nearest countries like the Dominican Republic, Bahamas and Turks and Caicos Islands to the north, Jamaica and Cayman Islands to the south and Puerto Rico to the East. To the west, Cuba has discovered oil off it's NW coast, but this is the known fields of the Gulf of Mexico which we claim up to their economic zone. The only producing area of the Caribbean Islands are Trinidad Tobago with an estimated 794 million bbls of oil and 16.951 trillion cubic feet of natural gas.

New speculation after the earthquake has just come up however...

Haiti Quake May Reveal Gas Reserves
http://bbn.frn.com/fis/storydisplay.asp?site=wfkz2&storyID=11059

PORT-AU-PRINCE, HAITI -- Haiti could have the means at its disposal to help recover from the Jan. 12 earthquake, according to a published report.

Stephen Pierce, a geologist who worked the island of Hispaniola, which is home to Haiti and the Dominican Republic, said in a published interview with Bloomberg News, that the quake was on a fault line that passes near potential reserves of oil and gas.

Pierce said this week that the force of the quake may have fractured the surrounding strata just enough to permit seepage of these petro-chemical reserves to levels where they can be recovered.

The discovery, if it stands up to further investigation, could give the impoverished nation a leg up in recovering from the earthquake and prove beneficial in that nation's economic recovery.

Haiti has no oil or gas production, and that means any economically-viable oil or gas fields are untapped and open to exploration.

Working against Haiti is the fact that there has been no serious survey of potential reserves, meaning that nobody is sure how much oil or natural gas is trapped in the strata.

Without having a solid estimate on the potential reserves, industry geologists said they don't know if extracting those reserves would be worth the investment.

If it turns out that the reserves are sufficient to make their recovery a good investment, and if they are accessible, it could give Haiti a long hoped for economic break.


Interesting, but further disproves the OP's theory. It's hard to blame the earthquake on those evil oil companies drilling away when there has been no drilling for over 30 years...

wardogs
 

Double_A

TB Fanatic
This report follows the Scorcha Faal of report writing.


They string together a series of small or insignificant but verifiable facts -

with some assumptions, that unless you know the facts sound reasonable -

and then jump to a big whopper conclusion, that is nonsense.
 

BlueNewton

Membership Revoked
Wardogs, that was an absolutely outstanding answer to my question. Thank you very much. Interesting information.
 

cleobc

Veteran Member
I grew up in a town where they had pumped so much oil they had to pump seawater back underground because the town was subsiding in places, 8 to 10 feet in some spots. Last major earthquake was 1933, and they were still pumping away when I was growing up in the 50s.
 

someone

Inactive
:prfl:

Haiti, which anybody could have bought for chump change for years has oil?

That's kind of like the NATION Mag. that argued for years that we were in VietNam because of all the oil there.

Anybody care to give a estimate of oil production for VN?

I thought not.

this is a very good example of the utter ignorance you have on many subjects.
 

energy_wave

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Haiti’s Earthquake May Have Revealed Oil Resources...

http://www.heatingoil.com/blog/haiti’s-earthquake-may-have-revealed-oil-resources127/

This from bloomberg...

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601072&sid=aUqFB_GbhRYM

The Greater Antilles, which includes Cuba, Haiti, the Dominican Republic, Puerto Rico and their offshore waters, probably hold at least 142 million barrels of oil and 159 billion cubic feet of gas, according to a 2000 report by the U.S. Geological Survey. Undiscovered amounts may be as high as 941 million barrels of oil and 1.2 trillion cubic feet of gas, according to the report.

If the US was using HAARP to scan under ground for oil reserves, maybe it also triggered the earthquake.
 

Troke

Deceased
"...this is a very good example of the utter ignorance you have on many subjects..."

Oil production in VN is about that of North Dakota? We went to war for that?
Well, a member of the Cultural Left, mesmerized by Texas oilmen (There is no more Class hateful to the CL than Texas oil men) might think that.

Real people don't.

BTW, every time I make a 'flat earth' statement, please challenge.
 

Oilpatch Hand

3-Bomb General, TB2K Army
When I want to know about geology, I figure there is no better source of information than a human rights attorney.

I just *knew* there was something wrong with this article. :lol:

Something else I noticed:

The Article said:
“Port-au-Prince hasn’t had an earthquake since 1771,” she said. “What we’re seeing is similar to Hurricane Katrina. Look at how many people never returned to where they originally lived. Perhaps the oil cartels needed to get rid of certain people near the coastline where they wanted it cleared. If Haiti were a piece of dirt with just black people and no oil or minerals, they would have left us alone. We wouldn’t see all the investment money and troops; nor would the U.S. have built the fifth largest embassy in the world in this tiny little country.

The modern petroleum industry has absolutely no need to move anybody anywhere for exploration. We do it all the time. If the people in Haiti haven't returned to where they once lived, it is most likely because the structures where they once lived have collapsed and are no longer habitable or even usable.

About the only time we need to move anybody is the rare instance where there may be a public safety emergency due to pipeline leak, well blowout, etc. At that time, presumably, most sane people would want to leave the area until the danger has passed. :lol:

The notion of Haitian oil reserves being larger than those of Venezuela is a fanciful one, indeed. If Haiti actually possessed proved reserves of such size there would be far more interest in the area than there has been thus far. I doubt there is any meaningful level of drilling activity anywhere near Haiti, and even if there had been, it's overwhelmingly unlikely that any such drilling caused the recent earthquake. Like...pretty close to impossible.
 

Kent

Inactive
BIG OIL BEHIND HAITI QUAKE?

By Victor Thorn

Did American petroleum companies murder hundreds of thousands of Haitians while extracting oil from their shores? http://www.americanfreepress.net/html/haiti_oil__210.html

No, everyone knows it was the fault of the US because we didn't sign the global warming treaty.

No, everyone knows it was the fault of the US because we hit them with HAARP.

No, everyone knows it was the fault of the US because we were extracting oil.

No, everyone knows it was the fault of the US because we ...............
 

Brutus

Inactive
Haiti’s Earthquake May Have Revealed Oil Resources...

http://www.heatingoil.com/blog/haiti’s-earthquake-may-have-revealed-oil-resources127/

This from bloomberg...

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601072&sid=aUqFB_GbhRYM



If the US was using HAARP to scan under ground for oil reserves, maybe it also triggered the earthquake.
Jesus......

I thought HAARP was a device for heating the atmosphere so that we can cause superstorms to take out folks we don't like.

Nope, wait a minute.....

I thought HAARP was a device designed to interfere with people's brain waves so we can drive them insane or get them to mindlessly do our bidding.

Nope, wait a minute.....

I thought HAARP was a device for causing earthquakes in places like Iran and China where we don't like them too much.

But NOW you're telling me it's an underground scanning device?

Damn. If it can do all that stuff I suppose they really ought to bill HAARP as "Whatever evil shit you want done, HAARP can do it!"


:eek: :shkr: :eek: :shkr: :eek:


"Stupid" doesn't even BEGIN to describe you.

:screw:
 

Sebastian

Sebastian
Well it is documented that underground injections can and have cause earthquakes.

Nevada if I recall in the sixties or was it fifties - deep underground injection of waste liquids.

But the idea of using that as a weapon is stupid - like the US needs to even have that lame an excuse to invade some third world hell hole.
 

energy_wave

Has No Life - Lives on TB
"X-Raying" the Earth?
On June 14, a Senate committee report noted that the Deputy Secretary of Defense had called for increasing HAARP funding from $5 million to $75 million in the 1996 defense budget. The sudden increase would be used to promote a disturbing new mission for HAARP.

Instead of just pouring its vast energy into the skies, the transmitter's power would be aimed back at the planet to "allow earth-penetrating tomography over most of the northern hemisphere" -- in effect, turning HAARP into the world's most powerful "X-ray machine" capable of scanning regions hidden deep beneath the planet's surface. According to the Senate report, this would "permit the detection and precise location of tunnels... and other underground shelters. The absence of such a capability has been... a serious weakness for [DoD] plans for precision attacks on hardened targets...."

Meanwhile, construction on the larger HAARP facility -- with a potential effective radiated power of 1.7 GW (1.7 billion watts) -- is set to begin in 1995. This expanded version would require additional funding from Congress. According to the 1990 project document: "The desired world-class facility... will cost on the order of $25-30 million." The Senate Committee's April report, however, predicts that the cost "could be as much as $90 million."

http://www.mediarare.com/haarp.html


Gakona HAARP on Full Power during Eartquake in Haiti

http://gozounlimited.newsvine.com/_...haarp-on-full-power-during-eartquake-in-haiti
 
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