HEALTH HINI or have you got Respiratory Syncytial Virus

China Connection

TB Fanatic
This is interesting as there is no vacine for it. Also you don't get immunity to it after you have caught it so you can continue catching it throughout the year. It attacks the lungs and there is little you can do to prevent catching it in normal life.

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Respiratory Syncytial Virus (RSV) Overview

http://www.cdc.gov/RSV/

Respiratory syncytial (sin-SISH-uhl) virus, or RSV, is a respiratory virus that infects the lungs and breathing passages. Most otherwise healthy people recover from RSV infection in 1 to 2 weeks. However, infection can be severe in some people, such as certain infants, young children, and older adults. In fact, RSV is the most common cause of bronchiolitis (inflammation of the small airways in the lung) and pneumonia in children under 1 year of age in the United States. In addition, RSV is more often being recognized as an important cause of respiratory illness in older adults.

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Respiratory syncytial virus

Definition
By Mayo Clinic staff

http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/respiratory-syncytial-virus/DS00414

Respiratory syncytial virus (RSV) is a virus that causes infections of the lungs and respiratory tract. It's so common that most children have been infected with the virus by age 2. Respiratory syncytial (sin-SISH-ul) virus can also infect adults.

In adults and older, healthy children, the symptoms of respiratory syncytial virus are mild and typically mimic the common cold. Self-care measures are usually all that's needed to relieve any discomfort.

Infection with respiratory syncytial virus can be severe in some cases, especially in premature babies and infants with underlying health conditions. RSV can also become serious in older adults and adults with heart and lung diseases.

Common-sense precautions can help prevent the spread of respiratory syncytial virus.
 

zookeeper9

Veteran Member
They do not have a vaccine for it, but they do have a shot (that is horribly expensive and must be given on a month basis through out the season) that is given to preemies because it can be life threatening if they catch end up wiht RSV.

I have had 4 children hospitalized with RSV, so I know first hand how hard it can be on the young ones.
 

Rex Jackson

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Good catch.

- An inhaler works well at opening passages to remove trapped fluids that make the passages agitated and swell closed.

- Ibuprofen keeps the lungs from swelling as a whole reducing chances of pleurisy / outer lung infection, and reduces fever.

- Lomatium root oil and black elderberry help speed recover, and reduce the infections ability to spread, kill most additional symptoms quickly.

- Having the patient wear a surgical mask helps reduce spreading, and helps promote healing by keeping dust and mold out of the lungs during the infection.
 
They do not have a vaccine for it, but they do have a shot (that is horribly expensive and must be given on a month basis through out the season) that is given to preemies because it can be life threatening if they catch end up wiht RSV.

I have had 4 children hospitalized with RSV, so I know first hand how hard it can be on the young ones.


I nearly lost my youngest son to it when he was less than a month old. He wasn't even a preemie. His clueless pediatrician thought he was turning blue from a heart condition and sent us to a heart doctor (in my car). By the time the heart doctor saw him (about an hour later), my baby's pulse ox level was only 62-65%! It took 4 days in PICU and 5 days in the peds unit before he could go home. We dealt with multiple pneumonias and asthma for several years after that. If I remember correctly, the shots were going to run about $1300 per month. RSV is nasty-- no doubt about it!
 

Hansa44

Justine Case
I nearly lost my youngest son to it when he was less than a month old. He wasn't even a preemie. His clueless pediatrician thought he was turning blue from a heart condition and sent us to a heart doctor (in my car). By the time the heart doctor saw him (about an hour later), my baby's pulse ox level was only 62-65%! It took 4 days in PICU and 5 days in the peds unit before he could go home. We dealt with multiple pneumonias and asthma for several years after that. If I remember correctly, the shots were going to run about $1300 per month. RSV is nasty-- no doubt about it!



$1300.00 a month????? For one shot??? I know your child is worth it but that is outrageous for a shot!!! And it seems pretty obvious that it's not a rare infection so it's not like special things need to be done to create the shot.

Just another example of pharmaceutical ripoff.
 

dissimulo

Membership Revoked
$1300.00 a month????? For one shot??? I know your child is worth it but that is outrageous for a shot!!! And it seems pretty obvious that it's not a rare infection so it's not like special things need to be done to create the shot.

Just another example of pharmaceutical ripoff.

Immune globulin shots cannot currently be made artificially. (See below.) The older shot, Respigam, is made by identifying people who have the correct antibody, taking plasma from a large number of people to obtain a sufficient amount, separating and concentrating the IG from the rest of the blood components, and ensuring that no other antigenic or disease causing components remain at the end of the process.

One person benefits from the immune reactions of dozens or hundreds of other people, without introducing the problems inherent in receiving blood products from dozens or hundreds of other people. This is a very expensive process.

Very few people need this treatment, so there is very little economy of scale and therefore, limited opportunity for profit.

ETA: Actually, it turns out there is a newer medicine for RSV (Synagis) that produces antibodies through a DNA recombination (human and mouse) and amplification process. It is still expensive, but that is probably due to high cost of research, which is not paid of quickly when medicines have small target populations. Still, that is an indication that the price should come down in the future.
 
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$1300.00 a month????? For one shot??? I know your child is worth it but that is outrageous for a shot!!! And it seems pretty obvious that it's not a rare infection so it's not like special things need to be done to create the shot.

Just another example of pharmaceutical ripoff.


My son never got the shot. He wasn't considered high risk before he caught RSV and he was sick with it within 2 weeks of birth. This happened in early April, so by the time he was out of the hospital, the RSV season was over. We debated with the doctor the following Fall as to whether or not he needed the shot. We decided against it since he seemed a little healthier and didn't attend daycare. If he had been a daycare baby, we probably would have opted for the shot.

We came so close to losing him that $1300 would have seemed like a bargain.

I agree with dissimulo. Without the economy of scale, the cost per shot goes up exponentially.
 
A co-worker's 3 month old grandson died in his bed with this virus right before Thanksgiving. The mother's other 2 children were taken by CPS and given to co-worker. They are a Hispanic family, by the way.

With the swine flu so bad, we all thought the baby got sick from the flu, but is was the RSV they now say.
 

China Connection

TB Fanatic
For those interested you might try Devil's Club Tincture of Tom McDowell.

This product has proved to give partial inhibition against cell damaging effects of the respiratory Syneytial virus.


One mill per 100 LBS of body weight taken 3 times a day is recommend.

The old price was $151 for 16 oz. 16 oz are equal to 473 mills.

I got bad diarrhea the other night so I hit myself in the morning with Devil's Club tincture for the first times as it is broad spectrum against bacterial and fungal infections. Anyway it cleared up the diarrhea that the normal Chinese herbal stuff I have used with success previously wasn't able to do this time. At the same time it seems to be moving the Flu that I had for over five weeks now. The anti activity it has is against the respiratory Syneytial virus. So I thought I'd share this information.


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http://www.drugs.com/npp/devil-s-club.html


Anti-infective activity
In-vitro data

A recent screening of a methanol extract of the inner bark of O. horridus showed partial inhibition against the respiratory syncytial virus. Previous screenings of O. horridus extracts exhibited antimicrobial and antifungal activities. The polyynes of the plant exhibited anti-Candida activity; and, in a disk diffusion assay, antimycobacterial activity, by killing Mycobacterium tuberculosis and isoniazid-resistant Mycobacterium avium at 10 mcg/disk. 10 , 11


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http://www.nativeplantsociety.org/devilsclub.htm


Laboratory research has found the extract to be effective at inhibiting a respiratory syncytial virus, and significant anti-Candida (yeast) activity, as well as antibacterial and antimycobacterial activity, with ability to kill Mycobacterium tuberculosis and Mycobacterium avium. This explains the common use of the tea to treat coughs, colds, and respiratory ailments as well as stomach and intestinal problems. For rheumatism the tea was drunk and also applied to the painful joints. A poultice of the root bark was applied to a nursing mother’s breasts to stop excessive flow (at weaning?). An eyewash of the tea was used to treat cataracts. Treatment of diabetes, especially adult onset insulin resistant diabetes is just incredible, reportedly reducing the craving for sugar as well as the elevated blood glucose levels. Some call it a blood and liver tonic. In large doses it is emetic (causes vomiting) and purgative.


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http://homeopathyvancouver.com/wp-content/uploads/files/ophopanax.pdf


Chemical composition
Research on the chemical composition of Oplopanax horridus is ongoing, however a extensive
extensive review by (Lantz et all, 2004) reported that phytochemical studies (Bloxton et al, 2002)
found a number of sterols and four sesquiterpenes, one of which (spatulenol) is novel to the genus.
Kobaisy et al (1997) found two novel and three previously described polyenes, one of which
(oplopandiol) has recently been synthesized (Moore 1993). These acetylenes all display significant
antimycobacterial and antifungal activity (Xu L, 2000) and most are active against common bacteria
such as Staphylococcus aureus, Bacillus subtilis, Pseudomonas aeruginosa, Escherichia coli, and
Candida albicans. These compounds are also active against Mycobacterium tuberculosis and
Mycobacterium avium, both of which can cause significant clinical tuberculosis, particularly virulent
in immuno-compromised hosts, AIDS patients being especially vulnerable. Notably, these pathogens
are also responsible for the epidemic status of tuberculosis in Canada’s indigenous population. Since
many strains of M. tuberculosis and M. avium are also resistant to the most commonly used
antimycobacterial drugs, there is considerable interest in the potential of devil’s club in tuberculosis
therapy. Extracts of devil’s club inner bark also partially inhibit a respiratory syncytial virus.
McCutcheon (1995)
It has been reported that Devil’s club has anti-microbial effects on upper and lower respiratory tract
infections (Wigod 2001)
 
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China Connection

TB Fanatic
What I find with flu bugs over here in China is that they sometime fix up with this or that but it is no good to generalize. I have for instance shifted the flu on chicken soup and vegetable juice without medication at times.

Being tested for what flu bug you have is far too expensive or at least for me it is. You need to experiment. I have gone through more than a 16 oz bottle of Synergy 7X on this flu bug. Eight oz of Black Elderberry and about six oz of Lomatium root. They have held what I have in check but not cured it. The Synergy 7X has some Devil's Club in it. It would seem however that I have needed more of straight Devil's club to actually shift what I have.

Having said this you have to give an experiment enough time to work. It is no good changing from one day to the next on medication. Most natural medication can be doubled up on however. So if something like Synergy 7X is holding the bug in check then you can still add full doses of something else like Devil's club as a test to clear up what you have.
 
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