HEALTH M-O-O-N, that spells flu pandemic

Fred

Middle of the road
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,517737,00.html

Mexico Links Sickness, Deaths to Swine Flu

Mexico City closed schools across the metropolis of 20 million Friday after at least 16 people died and more than 900 others fall ill from what health officials suspect is a new strain of swine flu. World health officials worried that it could mark the start of a flu pandemic.

The World Health Organization in Geneva, Switzerland said at least 57 have died in the outbreak, although it wasn't yet clear if this larger number of deaths was due to swine flu.

"We are very, very concerned," said Thomas Abraham, a spokesman for the agency. "We have what appears to be a novel virus and it has spread from human to human." If international spread is confirmed, that meets WHO's criteria for raising the pandemic alert level, he added.

Abraham said WHO on Friday raised their internal alert system, allowing them to divert more money and personnel to dealing with the outbreak. "It's all hands on deck at the moment." Abraham said.

Mexico's Health Secretary, Jose Cordova, said only 16 of the deaths have been confirmed to have been caused by the new strain, through testing at the government's laboratories. Samples from 44 other people who died were still being tested. The health department put the total number of people sickened at around 943 nationwide.

Cordova said samples were sent to the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention in Atlanta, Georgia, to determine whether it's the same virus infecting seven people in Texas and California. As of now, tests show the flu is a "new, different strain ... that originally came from pigs."

"We certainly have 60 deaths that we can't be sure are from the same virus, but it is probable," Cordova told MVS radio in Mexico City.

Cordova described a chilling new strain that had killed only people among the normally less-vulnerable young and mid-adult age range. One possibility is that the most vulnerable segments of the population — infants and the aged — had been vaccinated against other strains, and that those vaccines may be providing some protection.

But Dr. Anne Schuchat of the CDC said "at this point, we do not have any confirmations of swine influenza in Mexico" of the kind that sickened seven California and Texas residents.

All seven U.S. victims recovered from a strain of the flu that combines pig, bird and human viruses in a way that researchers have not seen before.

Cordova also told MVS radio in Mexico City that Mexican health officials can't be sure that the deaths "are from the same virus, but it is probable."

Closing the schools kept 6.1 million students home from day care centers through high schools, and thousands more were affected as colleges and universities closed down. Parents scrambled to juggle work and family concerns due to what local media said was the first citywide schools closure since Mexico City's devastating 1985 earthquake.

Lillian Molina and other teachers at the Montessori's World preschool scrubbed down their empty classrooms with Clorox, soap and Lysol on Friday between fielding calls from worried parents. While the school has had no known cases among its students, Molina supported the government's decision to shutter classes, especially in preschools.

"It's great they are taking precautions," she said. "I think it's a really good idea."

Authorities advised capital residents not to go to work if they felt ill, and to wear surgical masks if they had to move through crowds. A wider shutdown — perhaps including shutting down government offices — was being considered.

"It is very likely that classes will be suspended for several days," Cordova said. "We will have to evaluate, and let's hope this doesn't happen, the need to restrict activity at workplaces."

Still, U.S. health officials said it's not yet a reason for alarm in the United States. The five in California and two in Texas have all recovered, and testing indicates some common antiviral medications seem to work against the virus.

Schuchat of the CDC said officials believe the new strain can spread human-to-human, which is unusual for a swine flu virus. The CDC is checking people who have been in contact with the seven confirmed U.S. cases, who all became ill between late March and mid-April.

The U.S. cases are a growing medical mystery because it's unclear how they caught the virus. The CDC said none of the seven people were in contact with pigs, which is how people usually catch swine flu. And only a few were in contact with each other.

CDC officials described the virus as having a unique combination of gene segments not seen in people or pigs before. The bug contains human virus, avian virus from North America and pig viruses from North America, Europe and Asia.

Health officials have seen mixes of bird, pig and human virus before, but never such an intercontinental combination with more than one pig virus in the mix.

Scientists keep a close eye on flu viruses that emerge from pigs. The animals are considered particularly susceptible to both avian and human viruses and a likely place where the kind of genetic reassortment can take place that might lead to a new form of pandemic flu, said Dr. John Treanor, an infectious disease specialist at the University of Rochester Medical Center.

The virus may be something completely new, or it may have been around for a while but was only detected now because of improved lab testing and disease surveillance, CDC officials said.

The virus was first detected in two children in southern California — a 10-year-old boy in San Diego County and a 9-year-old girl in neighboring Imperial County.

It's not known if anyone is getting sick from the virus right now, CDC officials said.

It's also not known if the seasonal flu vaccine that Americans got last fall and early this year protects against this type of virus. People should wash their hands and take other customary precautions, CDC officials said.
 
It's the walkin' man, I hear his boots clickin' now....

"Baby, can you dig your man?"


But enough of that. I think we are in for a real show. In the building's restroom we had the mexican lady janitor wiping down our counters and putting new towels in the dispensor. She was going on and on in spanish about visiting her relatives in Mexico over Easter.

Yes, we are in for a treat straight out of hell.
 

Flippper

Time Traveler
Stock up on your colloidal silver, coneflower, oregano and eucalyptus oils, get a diffuser and use them to dispense the oils in your home. Also, carry a bandana or hankie with eucalyptus oil on it, and breath through it every so often if you are out in public where risk of infection is high.
 

Dex

Constitutional Patriot
In Mexico with that many dead there have to be a lot of other cases that have gone unreported.

We all knew Captain Trips could get loose...this could be the time.
 

almost ready

Inactive
Recombinomics calls it Pandemic Phase 6

That's as high as it goes, efficient human-to-human transmission.

Here goes.

http://www.recombinomics.com/News/04240903/H1N1_Swine_Mexico_Pandemic.html
Commentary

Sixty Swine Flu Fatalities In Mexico Confirm Pandemic Start
Recombinomics Commentary 13:30
April 24, 2009
A rare outbreak of human swine flu has killed at least 60 people in Mexico and spread to the United States where authorities are on alert, the World Health Organisation said on Friday.

"To date there have been some 800 suspected cases with flu-like illness, with 57 deaths in the Mexico City area," Chaib added.

Twenty four suspected cases and three deaths were also recorded in San Luis Potosi in central Mexico.

The above comment confirm that the swine H1N1 in southwestern United States (see updated map) is the leading edge of a H1N1 pandemic that appears to be centered in Mexico.

These deaths should increase the pandemic phase to 6.

Release of sequences from fatal cases in Mexico would be useful.

********

I agree with Dex above and Dissimulo (in the other thread) that there must be silent cases that didn't make it to hospital, and the extremely high incidence of fatal to reported cases will drop severely when the surveillance is improved.

definition of phase 6 here:

http://209.85.173.132/search?q=cach...+phases&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=opera
 

Old Gray Mare

TB Fanatic
GUIDANCE & RECOMMENDATIONS
Interim Guidance for Protection of Persons Involved in U.S. Avian Influenza Outbreak Disease Control and Eradication Activities
February 17, 2004
(Antiviral drug recommendations updated January 14, 2006)

http://www.cdc.gov/flu/avian/professional/pdf/protectionguid.pdf

Personal Protective Equipment

Disposable gloves made of lightweight nitrile or vinyl or heavy duty rubber work gloves that can be disinfected should be worn. To protect against dermatitis, which can occur from prolonged exposure of the skin to moisture in gloves caused by perspiration, a thin cotton glove can be worn inside the external glove. Gloves should be changed if torn or otherwise damaged. Remove gloves promptly after use, before touching non-contaminated items and environmental surfaces.
• Protective clothing, preferably disposable outer garments or coveralls, an impermeable apron or surgical gowns with long cuffed sleeves, plus an impermeable apron should be worn.
• Disposable protective shoe covers or rubber or polyurethane boots that can be cleaned and disinfected should be worn.
• Safety goggles should be worn to protect the mucous membranes of eyes.
• Disposable particulate respirators (e.g., N-95, N-99, or N-100) are the minimum level of respiratory protection that should be worn. This level or higher respiratory protection may already be in use in poultry operations due to other hazards that exist in the environment (e.g., other vapors and dusts). Workers must be fit-tested to the respirator model that they will wear and also know how to check the face-piece to face seal.1 Workers who cannot wear a disposable particulate respirator because of facial hair or other fit limitations should wear a loose-fitting (i.e., helmeted or hooded) powered air purifying respirator equipped with high-efficiency filters.
• Disposable PPE should be properly discarded, and non-disposable PPE should be cleaned and disinfected as specified in state government, industry, or USDA outbreak-response guidelines. Hand hygiene measures should be performed after removal of PPE.


1 Respirators should be used in the context of a complete respiratory protection program as required by the Occupational Safety and Health Administration (OSHA). This includes training, fit-testing, and fit-checking to ensure appropriate respirator selection and use. To be effective, respirators must provide a proper sealing surface on the wearer’s face. Detailed information on respiratory protection programs is provided at www.osha.gov/SLTC/etools/respiratory and www.cdc.gov/niosh/topics/respirators.
 

almost ready

Inactive
for the record

The last I heard, WHO was still at phase 3 on this, and "considering" a change to phase 4, not yet knowing how efficiently human-to-human this is being transmitted. It is well that they are being cautious, while protective measures are being implemented.

:stfu:
 

xtreme_right

Veteran Member
WHO not raising level...yet

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/serv...NESSSWINELAYER24ART2044/TPStory/International

SWINE FLU OUTBREAK
The Canadian Press

April 24, 2009

U.S. officials have confirmed that the number of human cases of swine flu infection has risen to seven.

Cases have been found in California and in Texas. The ages of the people infected range from nine to 54 years old.

The U.S. Centers for Disease Control says it appears there is human-to-human spread of the virus, though they do not know how many generations of spread there have been.

None of the cases appear to have had contact with pigs.

A senior Canadian official says there have been no confirmed cases in Canada. A spokesperson for the World Health Organization says as yet that agency sees no evidence that the global pandemic alert level should be raised.
 

Avatar

Human test subject #58652
This does not sound good...

From the CDC press briefing yesterday.
http://www.cdc.gov/media/transcripts/2009/t090423.htm

We know so far that the viruses contain genetic pieces from four different virus sources. This is unusual. The first is our North American swine influenza viruses. North American avian influenza viruses, human influenza viruses and swine influenza viruses found in Asia and Europe.

That particular genetic combination of swine influenza virus segments has not been recognized before in the U.S. or elsewhere. Of course, we are doing more testing now and looking more aggressively for unusual influenza strains. So we haven't seen this strain before but we haven't been looking as intensively as we are these days.


You can get swine influenza without direct contact but it's a bit more unusual. And we believe at this point that human-to-human spread is occurring. That's unusual. We don’t know yet how widely it's spreading and we certainly don’t know the extent of the problem. We're taking active steps to learn more and to make sure that we're on top of the situation. We're working closely with health officials in California and in Texas and we're working with the U.S. Department of Agriculture exploring illness in pigs and other animals.

And what exactly does this mean?

It's also important to know that some of the measures that we're taking as part of our investigation as we contact people who have come down with this illness and talked to their colleagues or their family members or their friends we may be doing extra efforts to understand the situation that would not be routine. That would not be what we would recommend everywhere. So, in the parts of the country where the investigation is intensifying there may be active efforts to understand the spread of the virus.
 
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Hansa44

Justine Case
Please, please be careful folks. Especially if a "swine flu" vaccination SUDDENLY becomes available.

This happened once before and if I recall those shots did far more damage than the flu might have done, and if I recall, no swine flu even happened.

The timing of a possible pandemic is very interesting. may be time for a kill off.
 

msswv123

Veteran Member
Why are they just calling this swine flu?

It has avian (bird) influenza, two types swine influenza and human influenza...blessings T
 

dissimulo

Membership Revoked
Please, please be careful folks. Especially if a "swine flu" vaccination SUDDENLY becomes available.

This happened once before and if I recall those shots did far more damage than the flu might have done, and if I recall, no swine flu even happened.

The vaccine was contaminated with Capylobacter jejuni (a bacterium) and caused several hundred cases of Guillain-Barre syndrome. So, the illness had nothing to do with the swine flu - if anything other than chance, it was probably due to the rush to get everyone immunized. That is both good and bad news, I guess - there is nothing specifically dangerous about a swine flu immunization, but there is nothing that we learned that ensures the same kind of thing can't happen again.
 

night driver

ESFP adrift in INTJ sea
Hansa, you are not correct about the 1970's Swine Flu Vax doing more haqrm than good.

the INACCURATE info was that Guilian Barre SYndrome was attached to that vax.

the retrospective numbers indicate that the world incidence of GBS that year was BELOW the normal number, with some countries who vaxed WAY more folk than normal with NO GBS.

What HAPPENED was one doc made a throw away reference to GBS, and so people LOOKED FOR IT, FOUND SOME CASES ad tried to say they had found a link.
RETROSPECTIVE STUDIES for that year and for both previous and following years found that, over all there were FEWER cases of GBS that year than in previous or following years, and that the number of cases that there WERE was actually well below what the established med folk considered a normal year....
 

dissimulo

Membership Revoked
ND - There was a study completed pretty recently (2008, I think) that found contaminants in the remaining samples of vaccine. The supposition based on that research was that GBS would have been associated with a small percentage of cases of infection with the contaminant and, therefore, probably caused in a small number of people by the vaccine.

I'll see if I can dig up the paper...
 

Wise Owl

Deceased
No matter what was in the swine flu vax. At least not to me. I will NEVER let them vax me again. EVER......I don't trust any of their voodoo vaccines anymore. I never got one that I didn't get deathly ill for at least 5 to 7 days and then caught the flu anyway.

I stopped the vax's and stopped getting the flu.......

Looks like a win/win situation.

Besides, these are the folks who sent out live virus in the vaccines recently. NO THANK YOU.......

Warning to all. DO NOT TRUST these vaccine makers. EVER.......

I will use herbals and homeopathy if it comes around here.
 
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"...
CDC officials described the virus as having a unique combination of gene segments not seen in people or pigs before. The bug contains human virus, avian virus from North America and pig viruses from North America, Europe and Asia.

Health officials have seen mixes of bird, pig and human virus before, but never such an intercontinental combination with more than one pig virus in the mix.
..."

...and it's not exactly "seasonal flu" season - coincides with "allergy season" in the Northern Hemisphere.
No doubt such curious - never before seen - combinations are sheer coincidence.
 

Karnie

Inactive
Why are they just calling this swine flu?

It has avian (bird) influenza, two types swine influenza and human influenza...blessings T

You may find this thread interesting.

http://74.39.184.22/vb/showpost.php?p=1878348&postcount=117

(Religion SIG, Le Violinist's thread with title that starts "5-31", post 117 on page 3)

Quoting from the article posted there:
[FONT=Verdana,Arial]Pigs can act as mixing vessels in which human and bird flu viruses can swap genes, leading to a strain that can easily infect people and pass from person to person.[/FONT]
 
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