CRISIS Collapse Underway

Cascadians

Leska Emerald Adams
The total collapse of the current world system is underway. Even the mainstream media is chronicling it. Go to this link every day. You can click on the headlines for the full article. Other posters have given this link before, and it is amazing!

http://www.lifeaftertheoilcrash.net/BreakingNews.html

MUST-READ LINK !!! EVERY DAY !!!

Today:

Breaking News: Friday January 23rd, 2009

Gerald Celente: "Code Red Alert, economy in collapse, drastic measures to be taken, possible bank holidays, gold confiscation, and mega-bailouts"

"We are forecasting dramatic measures will soon be taken by the Obama
Administration that will worsen the credit crisis and severely damage the
nation's economic system," says Celente. For example, Timothy Geithner,
President Obama's nominee for Treasury Secretary, has pledged to expand
and prolong government intervention in the financial markets. He said his
economic team would take "forceful" and "substantial action" on a "very
dramatic scale" to "forge an integrated strategy on how best to achieve
currency realignment." Celente advises to closely read the signals that
have been clearly telegraphed by Mr. Geithner. "From proclaiming a bank
holiday, confiscating gold to backstop devaluing currencies, mega-bailouts
for the too-big-to-fails to nationalizing public firms and dollar devaluation . .

Daily Reckoning: "Secretly, bankers are already being advised about how to handle a bank holiday . . ."

"Inflation could return sooner than you think," says MoneyWeek magazine.
"Instead of deflation, by the end of this year we could have the beginnings
of really rapid inflation," said hedge fund manager Jim Mellon, "which could
get out of control, particularly in America." "It could be a year…maybe 24
months," said an old friend yesterday. Terry Easton, who put the key
question to Ben Bernanke last week, thinks Obama will follow Roosevelt's
program. "Secretly, bankers are already being advised about how to handle
a bank holiday," says Terry. "There will be limits on how much money you
can take out of a bank. And probably limits on what you can do with it."

The Economist: "Blank cheques, bankruptcy, nationalisation: the options are dire, but governments must choose between them"

"Starting today," President Barack Obama declared in his inaugural address
from the Capitol, “we must pick ourselves up, dust ourselves off, and begin
again the work of remaking America.” In fact his first, urgent task is to
remake finance. As Mr Obama spoke in Washington, DC, the markets in
New York were sinking under the weight of failing banks despite the
promise of a plan from his economic team. A day earlier Britain had put
forward its second attempt to get its banks to lend. Others, such as
Germany and Italy, may before long need to step in; France, Ireland and
Denmark already have. The crisis has shown up flaws in financial markets
and the global economy. Huge flows of capital into debtor nations like
America and Britain pumped up asset markets. These fed the instabilities of
financial markets — which were themselves plagued by poor regulation,
dangerous incentives and the reckless use of mathematical models . . .

Bloomberg: "U.S. government's pledge of billions to Citigroup and Bank of America is simply nationalization by another name"

The U.S. government’s decision to pledge billions of additional dollars with
strings attached to Citigroup and Bank of America may be nationalization
by another name, according to former bankers and regulators. Faced with
pressure from lawmakers, banks have shaken up management, eliminated
executive bonuses and staff and canceled conventions. They’ll be forced to
do monthly reports on how they’ve boosted lending while slashing quarterly
dividends to one cent a share for three years. "When the Treasury tells a
bank to pay a penny a share vs. its old dividend, you know who’s calling the
shots,” said Jon Bruss, a 40-year industry veteran and founder of Hartland,
Wisconsin-based Fortress Partners Capital Management Ltd., which invests
in banks. "It may not be de jure nationalization but I think it’s de facto
nationalization." While avoiding steps taken by the U.K., which this week
acquired a 70 percent stake in Royal Bank of Scotland Plc, U.S. regulators
are no longer just passively injecting capital into the nation’s biggest banks.

UK Guardian: Cabinet Minister Says "The banks are ****ed, we're ****ed, the country's ****ed" as Desperation Begins to Grow Inside Government

[Brown's] tactics betray a nervousness in Labour circles that the public will
not understand why there is a second tranche of help going to Britain's
bankers, who have already received billions of pounds of loans, guarantees
and capital. There is also a worry that Brown's inadvertent title as saviour
of the world might be slipping. Privately, something close to desperation is
starting to develop inside government. After watching the slide in bank
shares on Friday, one cabinet minister did not altogether joke when he
said: "The banks are ****ed, we're ****ed, the country's ****ed . . ."

Wall Street Journal: What to Do if Your Bank is Seized by the Government

Could your bank turn into the Bank of the U.S.A.? The latest wave of
banking problems has investors worried the government will nationalize
deeply wounded institutions, such as Bank of America and Citigroup Such a
dramatic step could make it easier for some bank customers to get a loan.
And customers with deposits will still be protected by federal insurance,
just as they are today. Still, consumers could see more branch closings,
more standardization across bank products and a deterioration in customer
service. Common and preferred shareholders, meanwhile, will likely get
wiped out in a bank nationalization. With all of the problems banks are
facing, here is a primer on bank collapses and the impact of nationalization.

Reuters: Obama Plans on Borrowing Another $2 Trillion to Revive Economy

The Obama administration will have to persuade the world that the U.S.
strong dollar policy is for real this time as it prepares to borrow $2 trillion
to revive the U.S. economy from its worst crisis in decades. Less than 48
hours after Barack Obama became president, his choice for U.S. Treasury
secretary, Timothy Geithner, said a strong dollar is in the United States'
interest. That phrasing -- first used by former Treasury Secretary Robert
Rubin more than 14 years ago -- lost its weight and credibility when it was
over-used by the Bush administration. The greenback lost about 40 percent
of its value versus the euro and more than 15% versus the yen between
2000 and 2008. A weaker currency was an important step for the Bush
White House in rebalancing a global economy plagued by a U.S. trade deficit
and huge Chinese surplus. "This time around the administration probably
means it when it says it backs a strong dollar" said Samarjit Shankar, a
director for global strategy at the Bank of New York Mellon, in Boston.

Tom Whipple: "The world's economy is either collapsing or is putting on a very good imitation of collapsing . . ."

The purpose of reciting a list of woes is to remind ourselves that we are
living on one big interrelated, interconnected earth. Attempting to solve
one problem will either mitigate or perhaps exacerbate the others, for
nothing much remains static these days. Economic growth has come to a
halt in most countries and even China's meteoric growth is subsiding
towards half what it was a couple of years ago. How long this will last is
anybody's guess. While Wall Street babbles on about rebounds in six or
nine months, others are convinced that the damage done to the world's
financial systems in recent years is so great that, despite the trillions in
bailouts and stimuli, there is no hope for recovery in the foreseeable
future. Those of us who worry about such things are concerned that low oil
prices have stifled investment to such an extent that in a few years the oil
industry will find it impossible to stem declining production from depletion.

Washington Post: "Shadow banking system has effectively shut down . . ."

In thinking about all this, a good place to start is not with the banks
themselves but with the "shadow" banking system -- those markets in
which packages of loans are sold off in pieces to investors. In the United
States over the past several decades, this shadow system has come to
provide roughly half the financing for businesses and households, including
many of the loans that are initially written by banks. Now this shadow
system has effectively shut down because investors lost confidence in their
ability to know the risks involved in those loan packages . . .

Economist: State Pension Funds Have Lost 30% of Value Since Oct. 2007

It was a proud moment for Illinois this week, as the state’s favourite son
became president. At home, though, matters are more depressing. Like
dozens of other states, Illinois faces a budget deficit. Moreover, another
problem is in the offing. The state’s five pension funds are looking pasty.
Illinois has $54.4 billion of unfunded pension liabilities, with just 54% of the
assets it needs to pay for future promises to its workers; 80% is the
proportion experts usually consider adequate. These figures, the most
recent available, are from June 2008. Since then, they have probably got
worse. Other states face similar woes. A sample of 109 state pension funds
lost $865 billion, about 30% of their value, between October 2007 and
December 2008, according to the Centre for Retirement Research (CRR) at
Boston College. In Illinois the state treasurer, Alexi Giannoulias, wants to
streamline the pension funds; he hopes a bill will be ready this month or
next. But the funding gap will not be filled easily. The short-term outlook is
bleak in Illinois and elsewhere. Pension problems only add more uncertainty.

Catherine Austin Fitts: Will the Government Covertly Confiscate 401(k)s?

I had never considered the possibility of overt or covert confiscation of
IRAs and 401(k)s until I read one of Franklin Sanders‘ comments about gold
confiscation: "Finally, gold and silver today don’t represent the huge pool of
wealth they represented in 1933. Why risk wide-spread disobedience to
steal such a tiny plum? If the government wants to steal a big pool of
wealth, they’ll snatch your pension funds and IRAs, not your gold." In fact,
if you look at the value of most 401(k)s and IRAs lately, a great deal has
already been "confiscated." The mainstream media has described these
losses as part of the normal economic cycle, but this is a fallacy. The
losses are the result of a financial coup d’etat, including fraudulent housing
bubbles, pump and dump schemes, naked short selling, precious metals
price suppression, and intervention in the markets by the government and
central bank . . . Which begs the question, where is all this going?

Option Armageddon: Is It Time to Start Stuffing Money in Our Mattresses

If the banking system is insolvent, so is your bank. If the FDIC has no
money, it’s quite possible the government can’t protect you. If the bank is
not paying any interest, then you are paid nothing for exposing yourself to
these risks. So why not convert at least a portion of your savings to
Benjamins and put them in your mattress? Two reasons: cash can be
stolen and can lose its value due to inflation. But if banks pay no interest,
then the purchasing power of your savings is as vulnerable in the bank as it
is in your mattress. So inflation is a moot point. The only real risks are fire
or theft. These are real risks, of course. So it probably makes sense to
diversify: keep some in the bank and some elsewhere. In a total collapse of
the financial system, cash equivalents are not cash . . .

The New Yorker: Fraudulent Schemes Detonating as Economy Collapses

On Wall Street, fraudulent schemes tend to thrive during economic booms,
and to blow up when times turn tough. While bank robbers are getting
busier, the Bernard Madoffs are starting to get caught. Madoff is just the
latest in a long line of fraudsters who took advantage of investor euphoria.
Time and again, as asset markets have become frothier, fraud has always
flourished. During England’s South Sea Bubble, in 1720, a host of bogus
joint-stock companies arose, including one that described its enterprise as
"nitvender," or the selling of nothing. The boom of the nineteen-twenties
featured men like Arthur Montgomery, who ran a Ponzi scheme promising
investors four-hundred-per-cent returns in sixty days, and the Match King,
Ivar Kreuger, who sustained match monopolies all over the world with
forged bonds and doctored books. More recently, the stock bubble of the
90s gave rise to enormous frauds at companies like Enron and WorldCom.

Washington Post: Delays in Bank Aid Spur Frustration Among Executives

A massive backlog of bank applications for emergency federal aid has
provoked widespread frustration over how the Treasury Department is
allocating rescue funds and raised suspicions among executives that
political connections are playing a role. The delay is pushing executives
across the nation to lobby their lawmakers, financial groups and friends
within the federal government to try to expedite their requests. "I think
there is a suspicion among a large number of our members that it's who
you know rather than the merits of the application," said Camden Fine,
chief executive of the Independent Community Bankers of America. "I don't
know that to be a fact, but I know there is a strong undercurrent of
suspicion that you have to have some sort of connection before you get
the golden touch or the blessing from Treasury to get money." Treasury
officials have been secretive about why certain banks received the money
first, citing the need to protect sensitive market information . . .

Economist: Mounting Joblessness Setting Stage for Dramatic Social Unrest

Tens of thousands protested in Zaragoza recently. A city that in 2008
enjoyed the limelight of a World Expo is now one of Spain’s most troubled.
The protesters show that negative indicators are more than mere
numbers. In the country with Europe’s highest unemployment rate, jobs
have overtaken terrorism as voters’ main concern. In few places does the
social fallout from recession look so dramatic. Predictions keep getting
worse. The government expects unemployment to rise from 13% to 16%
this year. The ESADE business school predicts 20% . . . The pain is uneven.
Immigrants and the young, many of Aragón’s new workers, were the first
to be sacked. They have not built up a decent cushion of unemployment
benefit. Some 5m foreigners have multiplied Spain’s immigrant population
eightfold in a decade. Offering them lump-sum payments to go home has
not worked. Many young people dropped out of school because jobs were
plentiful, says Mr Buey. Now they are both unemployed and uneducated.

Los Angeles Times: Woes at Microsoft Offer Window Into Financial Crash

Microsoft's first-ever mass layoffs showed Thursday that even the most
rock-steady technology companies are feeling the pain of the global
recession. Consumers and corporations are deciding they can do without
the latest computers, software and even cellphones as they grapple with
what Microsoft Chief Executive Steve Ballmer called a "once-in-a-lifetime
set of economic conditions." Worldwide technology spending is projected to
fall 3% in 2009 after seven years of growth, according to Forrester
Research. Tech companies continue to shed jobs to adjust to the changing
economic landscape. Intel, Advanced Micro Devices, Motorola, Autodesk
and others have disclosed plans to lay off thousands of employees . .

USA Today: Even Stalwarts Microsoft and Sony Hit by Financial Collapse

Not even high-tech is immune from the economic meltdown. Despite
predictions — wishful thinking? — by some financial analysts that it would
remain relatively unscathed, Silicon Valley and the rest of the industry
buckled under distressing news Thursday. Microsoft announced 5,000
layoffs — its biggest cutback ever — and Sony said it will report an
operating loss for the first time in 14 years: $1.65 billion. A day earlier,
Intel said it will close several older factories, displacing 5,000 to 6,000
workers. It is sobering news for the tech industry, which had resisted the
gravitational pull of the tottering economy over as consumers continued to
snap up laptops and iPhones. Not anymore. In the span of several weeks,
orders for both business and consumer tech products have cratered, and
technology companies began shedding workers. Despite quarterly results
from Google and Apple this week, and job losses that aren't as deep as
those in the financial and automotive industries, the technology industry is
suffering its worst downturn since the dot-com bubble burst in the early
2000s. As jobs evaporate, so is funding for companies both large and small.

Associated Press: Pay Freezes Spreading Rapidly as Economy Crumbles

What do Tropicana Casino and Resort, Avis and the White House now have
in common? They're all freezing the pay of some of their workers. It's part
of a growing trend by employers facing the fallout — economic and political
— from a brutal recession. For companies, pay freezes are a key cost
cutting tool for surviving hard times. For President Barack Obama, who
ordered a pay freeze for White House employees earning over $100,000 a
year, the move on his first full day in office sent a message to a nervous
country: We're in this together. "During this economic emergency," Obama
said, "families are tightening their belts, and so should Washington."

Wall Street Journal: Collapsing Market Sends Rental Rates Plummeting

Now it's a renter's market, too. As the housing downturn deepens, rental
rates are falling in many major U.S. cities, including New York and Los
Angeles, and tenants are finding they have greater leeway to renegotiate
their leases. Early in the housing crisis, former homeowners were starting
to rent again, supporting demand for rentals. Now, with more condos being
converted into rental units, landlords are struggling to keep their buildings
occupied . . . The overall weak rental market has emboldened a number of
tenants to start negotiating with their landlords. Richard Laermer, owner of
a public-relations firm, was heading toward 2009 with the prospect of lower
income and a rent of $4,700 for a two-bedroom, two bathroom apartment
in midtown NYC. So in November, he asked his landlord for a break. Even
though it was months before his lease was up, he won a $200 decrease . .

Los Angeles Times: Special Zones Urged for Those Sleeping in Their Cars

Tough economic times have spilled onto the streets of Venice, which has
become a favorite place to park for scores of otherwise homeless people
living in cars and campers. The practice has ignited a mini-uprising among
residents living in the pricey coastal community. The number of cars and
recreational vehicles has swelled so much that Councilman Bill Rosendahl,
who represents the city's coastal areas, has proposed creating zones
away from neighborhoods where people can sleep in their vehicles. "The
community has been going ballistic," Rosendahl said. "They can't park their
own cars. Some of the folks who live in their cars and in campers defecate
and urinate outside and create other issues of quality of life and health."

Dmitry Orlov: Barrack Obama is America's Version of Mikchail Gorbachev

Congratulations, everyone, we have a new president: a fresh new face, a
capable, optimistic, inspiring figure, ushering in a new era of responsibility,
ready to confront the many serious challenges that face the nation; in
short, we have us a Gorbachev. I don't know about you, but I find the
parallel rather obvious. Obama wishes to save the economy, and to inspire
us with words such as "We will harness the sun and the winds and the soil
to fuel our cars and run our factories." At the same time, he cautions us
that "We will not apologize for our way of life, nor will we waver in its
defense" -- an echo of Dick Cheney's "The American way of life is non-
negotiable." And so we descend from the nonexistent but wonderfully
evocative "clean coal" to the more pedestrian "Put a little dirt in your gas
tank!" But these are all euphemisms: the reality is that it is either fossil
fuels, which are running out while simultaneously destabilizing the planet's
climate and poisoning the biosphere, or the end of industrial civilization . . .
 

Wowser

Inactive
Thanks, leska.

That is a big bunch of get your attention, wow. Something evil this way comes, is here.

Here is the layoff tally today, so far, from Layoff Daily

http://www.layoffdaily.com/

Monday 1-26-2009 - Headlines (updated 4-8X a day)

Major Layoffs Today Tally: -43,000

JFK Memorial Hospital -39

Carroll County Jail -5

Barnes Distribution -800

GM Cuts Again -2,000

IBM Quietly Chopping Away

ING -7,000

John Deere in Brazil and U.S. -700

Home Depot Closing 48 Stores -7,000

Pfizer to Buy Wyeth & Cut Jobs -8,000

Sprint Nextel -8,000

Catepillar May Have to Cut 20,000

Philips Electronics -6,000

MidWestVaco Closing Plant -190

Misc. Lawfirm Layoffs

Lucaya Resort on Grand Bahama -100

Jewelry Stores Cutting Staff

Fannie Mae -hundreds

Hickey-Freeman -40

Alberta Losing Oil Jobs -2,200

Houston Unemployment Rate Only 5.5%

Big List of Tech Layoffs

Air Canada Cuts Again -345

Boeing in Orange County CA -71

Frankford Hospitals -100
 

Harbinger

Veteran Member
But, But, But....the collapse isn't going to happen!!!!!!

:zzz:


Wake up sheeples...your running out of time! :sht:



(disclaimer; This is not for those who have been preparing or is preparing....we make no claim to the above notice. We who saw this a mile way do not necessarily hold the view of the above statement!) Hey everything's got to have a disclaimer these days......

:D
 

Rex Jackson

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Lets not overlook this

41 US States Face Bankruptcy In 2009

A recent study by The Center on Budget and Policy Priorities revealed that 41 states are facing severe budget shortfalls for 2009. Some states are worse off than others, with California ($31.7 billion) and Florida ($5.1 billion) leading the deficit pack. In all, the 41 states are currently facing a $71.9 billion budget shortfall. The key word here is “currently,” since a similar study was conducted by the same group only three months earlier, at which time “only” 29 states were predicted to face shortfalls of a “mere” $48 billion. As the recession deepens, so will the state’s budget problems, turning this “budget crisis” into a humanitarian disaster. Projections have already been made for a $200 billion shortfall by 2010.

These deficits have already transcended the computer screen of the statistician into real suffering of the most vulnerable sections of society. In dozens of states across the country, vital services are being cut to the elderly, disabled, the poor, and recently unemployed. Teachers are being cut from schools and tuitions are rising. Workers from state construction sites are being laid off, while social service employees suffer a similar fate. Non profits are closing their doors.

Most likely, these pains only mark the beginning. Many states have a “rainy day fund” of some kind that they use to plan for such crises. These funds are already depleted, or certain to dry up quickly, with “hard decisions” now having to be made. This is especially troubling when one considers that, in many cases, state cutbacks made from the 2001 recession remained in place. Not to mention that successive presidents have successfully plundered federal social programs. The new, extraordinary state budgets that are being drawn up to address the current deficit crisis will essentially destroy the social safety net for millions of people, including access to daycare, food stamps, welfare, and basic medical services. The fact that the federal budget is in even worse shape, and will likely choose to follow a similar route of massive cuts, makes future predictions of social calamity all but certain.

[link to www.globalresearch.ca]






Ohio Unemployment Bankrupt

Please confirm this if you know. I was told that The State of Ohio' unemployment has just declared bankruptcy. They have just asked and received a $300,000,000 in federal assistance. With over 500,000 people currently claiming unemployment and receiving an average of $300 per week. That means that they now have enough federal assistance to last 2 weeks.







61,000 Corporate Job Cuts Announced Today

Caterpillar - 20,000 Jobs.
Pfizer Inc. - 19,000 Jobs.
Sprint Nextel Corp. - 8,000 Jobs.
Home Depot Inc. - 7,000 Jobs.
ING Groep NV - 7,000 Jobs.

[link to www.bloomberg.com]





Iceland's government topples amid financial mess

By DAVID STRINGER, Associated Press Writer David Stringer, Associated Press Writer – 27 mins ago

REYKJAVIK, Iceland – Iceland's coalition government collapsed Monday, leaving the island nation in political turmoil amid a financial crisis that has pummeled its economy and required an international bailout to keep the country afloat.

Prime Minister Geir Haarde said he was unwilling to meet demands from his coalition partners in the Social Democratic Alliance Party, which insisted upon the post of prime minister in order to keep the coalition intact.

Haarde, who has been prime minister since 2006, said he would officially inform the country's president later Monday that the government had collapsed.

Foreign Minister Ingibjorg Gisladottir, who heads the Social Democrats, is expected to start talks immediately with opposition parties in an attempt to form a new government. That government would sit until new elections are held, likely in May.

Haarde had previously said he wouldn't lead his Independence Party into new elections, because he has cancer.

He told reporters on Monday that he had proposed Education Minister Thorgerdur Katrin Gunnarsdottir, of Haarde's own party, be appointed Iceland's new prime minister — but Gisladottir rejected that offer.

"It was an unreasonable demand for the smaller party to demand the premiership over the larger party," Haarde said.

Iceland has been mired in crisis since the collapse of the country's banks under the weight of debts amassed during years of rapid expansion. Inflation and unemployment have soared, and the krona currency has plummeted.

Haarde's government has nationalized banks and negotiated about $10 billion in loans from the IMF and individual countries. In addition, Iceland faces a bill likely to run to billions of dollars to repay thousands of Europeans who held accounts with subsidiaries of collapsed Icelandic banks.

The country's commerce minister, Bjorgvin Sigurdsson, quit on Sunday citing the pressures of the economic collapse. Sigurdsson, a member of Gisladottir's party, said Icelanders had lost trust in their political leadership.

Thousands have joined noisy daily protests in the last week over soaring unemployment and rising prices.
 
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mbo

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small window for stabilization


The current riots and disorders in Europe will quickly spread and intensify once the weather warms. The cold is keeping the restless masses quiet for the moment being.


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Surprise

Inactive
Yeah, I just went over and perused tickerforum.org and found nothing but more bad news. Not that I really thought I would find a ray of sunshine or anything.

We watched a newly released show on History channel yesterday comparing current events to the Great Depression and we just sat there, so somber , after the show ended.
 

ocd

Inactive
If Caterpillar is laying off shit has hit the fan I come from Caterpillar country and it is as rock solid of a company as you cat get...Good management, good product, good reputation of it's product it has everything going for it....
Another company to watch is ADM
 

Surprise

Inactive
Jim Cramer just saved the day. On CNBC, he said this will be a good week on Wall street.Never mind the unemployment figures, something good about housing.:screw:
Now we can all rest easy tonight. Riiiiiiiiight.
I do not believe any talking heads anymore.
 

Cascadians

Leska Emerald Adams
Monday starts rolling in

Breaking News: Monday January 26th, 2009

James Howard Kunstler: "A deadly fog has rolled in, absolutely everyone dreads what lurks on the other side of it . . ."

Observers of all stripes are having trouble imagining any way out of our
multiple predicaments. All the possible actions tried so far have have
seemed absurd. Why even try to prop up inflated house values when the
single most crucial need in this sector is for house prices to return to
parity with incomes so the shrinking pool of ordinary people still employed
can begin to think about buying one? Well, the obvious explanation is that
politicians can't bear the pain of watching mass foreclosures and the
ruination of families. This is pretty understandable, and it is tragic indeed.
Frankly, I don't know of any political narcotic that can mitigate the pain
that results from having made poor choices in life -- even if those choices
were promoted by the mighty ideology of "American Dreaming." Anyway,
the foreclosures are well underway now, and perhaps the salient question
is how long will the public's fury remain constrained while they hear about
Wall Street executives buying $80,000 area rugs? Surely there is a tipping
point of collective distress that is not too far from where we're at now.

Washington Post: Economic Riots Spreading Fast Through Eastern Europe

On a frigid evening this month, more than 10,000 people gathered outside
a 13th-century cathedral in this Baltic capital to protest the government's
handling of Latvia's economic crisis and demand early elections. The
demonstration was one of the largest here since the mass rallies against
Soviet rule in the late 1980s, and a sign of both the public's frustration and
its faith in the political system. But at the end of the night, as the crowd
dispersed, the protest turned into a riot. Hundreds of angry young people,
many drunk and recently unemployed, rampaged through the historic Old
Town, smashing shop windows, throwing rocks and eggs at police, even
prying cobblestones from the streets to lob at the Parliament building.
Similar outbursts of civil unrest have occurred in recent weeks across the
periphery of Europe, where the global financial crisis has buffeted smaller
countries with fewer resources with which to defend their economies . . .

London Times: Britons Seething in Anger as Pound Continues its Freefall

To many ordinary people, however, any bonus after such failure strikes a
discordant note, even though the bank’s modestly paid staff may be doing
a good job in difficult circumstances. "I don’t think handing out £9m worth
of bonuses at a state-owned bank sounds good, though it is difficult to
judge what is appropriate at a time like this," said Peter Hambling, 40, a
graphic designer in London. "You just hope at the end of all this that banks
and the way they are run are completely reformed.” Anger is not confined
to bonuses. "My parents are in their mid-sixties and have watched their
savings and investments take a nosedive since this began,” said Naomi
Rowles, 24, who works for an online travel company. "My anger towards
the banks is for parents and other older members of my family who now
have 25% less to live on." June Daniels, 61, a civil servant, said: "I think it’s
disgusting. My daughter just opened her own business and she’s struggling
because of the credit crunch. Nobody will help her except for me . . ."

Chicago Tribune: Government of Iceland Has Now Officially Collapsed

Iceland's coalition government collapsed Monday, leaving the island nation
in political turmoil amid a financial crisis that has pummeled its economy
and required an international bailout. Prime Minister Geir Haarde said he
was unwilling to meet the demands of his coalition partners, the Social
Democratic Alliance Party, which insisted upon getting the post of prime
minister to keep the coalition intact. "I really regret that we could not
continue with this coalition, I believe that that would have been the best
result," Haarde told reporters. Haarde, who has been prime minister since
2006, said he would officially inform the country's president, Olafur Ragnar
Grimsson, the government had collapsed. Grimsson, largely a figurehead,
has asked Haarde's government to remain in place until a new government
is formed. Foreign Minister Ingibjorg Gisladottir, head of the Alliance party,
is expected to start talks immediately with opposition parties in an attempt
to form a new government that would rule until the new elections are held.

NY Times: Is Barack Obma Prepraring to Nationalize the Country's Banks?

Only five days into the Obama presidency, the new administration and
Democratic leaders in Congress are already dancing around one of the
most politically delicate questions about the financial bailout: Is the new
president prepared to nationalize a huge swath of the nation’s banking
system? Speaker Nancy Pelosi has alluded to internal debate over whether
large banks should be nationalized, while aides. Privately, most members of
the Obama economic team concede that the rapid deterioration of the
country’s biggest banks, notably Bank of America and Citigroup, is bound to
require far larger investments of taxpayer money, atop the more than
$300 billion of taxpayer money already poured into those two financial
institutions and hundreds of others. But if hundreds of billions of dollars of
investment is needed to shore up those banks, what do taxpayers get in
return? And how do risks escalate as government’s role expands to control
a vast portion of the financial sector of the world’s largest economy?

Washington Post: Federal Reserve Seeking Broad Authority to "examine the records and inner workings of a wide range of companies"

Congress is moving to create strong new oversight of the financial sector
that would likely give the Federal Reserve authority to examine the
workings of a wide range of companies in an attempt to address one of the
ey failures that led to the financial crisis. But the initiative, which could be
finalized in the House by spring, is raising concerns about whether it would
muddy the Fed's traditional mission and concentrate too much power in a
single federal body. The legislation envisioned by House Financial Services
Committee Chairman Barney Frank would put the Fed, or less likely another
government agency, in charge of protecting the stability of the entire
system, Frank said. An abundance of federal agencies regulate the financial
industry. But no one agency is responsible for understanding or containing
risks affecting the financial system as a whole. In fact, none even has a
complete picture of financial markets. Under Frank's legislation, the new
regulator would be given the power to gather information about the inner
workings of banks, investment firms, insurance companies, hedge funds
and any other entitiy big enough it creates the risk of a systemic collapse.

AP: Tens of Thousands Layoffs Announced, Even More Expected Soon

It's already been a lousy year for workers less than a month into 2009 and
there's no relief in sight. Tens of thousands of fresh layoffs were
announced Monday and more companies are expected to cut payrolls in
the months ahead. A new survey by the National Association for Business
Economics depicts the worst business conditions in the U.S. since the 1982.
Thirty-nine percent of NABE's forecasters predicted job reductions through
attrition or "significant" layoffs over the next six months, up from 32% in
the previous survey in October. Around 45 percent in the current survey
anticipated no change in hiring plans, while roughly 17 percent thought
hiring would increase. The recession, which started in December 2007, and
is expected to stretch into this year, has been a job killer. The economy
lost 2.6 million jobs last year, the most since 1945. The unemployment
rate jumped to 7.2% in December, the highest in 16 years, and is expected
to keep climbing. "Job losses accelerated in the fourth quarter, and the
employment outlook for the next six months has weakened further . . ."

Financial Times: Companies Face Liquidation Risk as Financing Dries Up

US companies face a greater risk of liquidation because sources of finance
to let them reorganise under the country’s bankruptcy code are drying up
in the global financial crisis. In the US, companies on the verge of becoming
insolvent can restructure themselves under a Chapter 11 bankruptcy
protection process, sometimes taking years. But the credit crunch has
severely limited the availability of so-called ‘debtor in possession’ financing
that is vital to give them this second chance. With previous big providers of
DIP financing, such as GE Capital, shying away from the market, companies
may have to rely on existing lenders. It said there had been no substantial
increase in DIP volumes in 2008, in spite of a jump in the number of
bankruptcies, highlighting the reluctance of banks and investors to finance
companies in bankruptcy. Lenders, even those with priority claims, face big
losses, if a company cannot reorganise and liquidates. Senior lenders to
retail companies would recover less than half of what they would if the
company reorganised under Chapter 11, according to Standard & Poor.

Reuters: Retail Giants Begin Aggressively Settling the Score with Vendors

U.S. apparel chains are settling the score with vendors after a disastrous
holiday season driven by heavy discounts, but run the risk of shrinking the
pool of suppliers. Negotiations over "markdown allowances" are particularly
fierce this year, experts say, as retailers demand that vendors make up
the difference when their goods do not sell at expected prices, depressing
profit margins. The discussions come as larger retailers become more
powerful, while weaker store chains file for bankruptcy. Now, with renewed
clout, the retail giants are demanding more concessions from vendors who
are often more dependent on them than vice versa. Department stores
Macy's Inc. and Dillard's Inc. are particularly aggressive when it comes to
demanding margin allowances, said Sterne Agee analyst Sam Poser.

Yahoo News: Car Dealers Struggle to Survive as Sales Continue Plunging

At this year's version of the National Automobile Dealers Association
convention, survival has passed maximizing profits as the focus of the
annual event. So as thousands of dealers from across the U.S. gathered
Saturday in New Orleans, they were greeted by workshops entitled "Selling
up in a down economy: Taking the bull by the horns" and "Tough times,
tougher dealers: Saving your dealership's assets." By almost all accounts,
2009 will be among the toughest years ever faced by the roughly 20,000
new car dealerships in the U.S., with sales of cars and lightweight trucks
projected to shrink by as much as 6 million vehicles from the 16.1 million
sold as recently as 2007. Sales last year were 13.2 million, down 18% from
2007, and December sales ran at an annual rate of around 10 million . . .

London Times: Shadow of Insolvency Hanging over Computer Chipmakers

The semiconductor industry is bracing itself for another quarter of pain and
plunging profits as consumers rein in spending on electronics. Chipmakers
from Taiwan to the United States have reported disastrous Christmas
earnings and the outlook is glum as demand for personal computers, mobile
phones and gadgets slumps. On Friday Qimonda, of Germany, became the
first big chipmaker to file for insolvency. The world's fourth-biggest
manufacturer of DRAM memory chips, used mainly in PCs, said a rescue
rescue attempt by the German state of Saxony and a group of banks had
not been agreed in time to save it. Qimonda follows Nortel Networks, North
America's biggest telecoms equipment maker, in filing for insolvency. The
semiconductor sector was in poor shape before the present downturn, with
large players having spent lavishly in early 2007 on increased production to
expand their market share, resulting in oversupply and price collapses . . .

Financial Times: Autoparts Sector Says It Needs a $10 Billion Bailout

The automotive parts supply sector, laid low by a sharp drop in automobile
production in the US, is to request at least $10bn of federal bail-out funds
from the troubled asset relief programme. Industry representatives met
Treasury officials and members of Barack Obama’s presidential team this
month to discuss a growing financial squeeze in the automotive sector . . .

San Francisco Chronicle: Tax Revenue Plummeting Across California

California could pay the price for the foreclosure crisis for years to come,
thanks to Proposition 13, the 1978 voter initiative that caps property taxes.
As banks feverishly dump foreclosed homes at cut-rate prices, and as
neighboring homes change hands at similar bargain-basement rates, those
amounts are enshrined as the new basis for determining property tax until
the homes are sold again. Under Prop. 13, that basis can rise a maximum
of just 2 percent a year, even if the home is worth significantly more. The
consequence is likely to be a revenue crunch for the public services funded
by property tax revenues. "This is going to have a long-term impact on the
state budget and local budgets," said Jean Ross, director of the California
Budget Project in Sacramento. "Even after the economy recovers, state
and local government budgets will not recover fully." Gus Kramer, Contra
Costa assessor, puts it in stark terms. "It's going to be an economic
disaster in Contra Costa County and the surrounding areas," he said . . .
 

fairbanksb

Freedom Isn't Free
Jim Cramer just saved the day. On CNBC, he said this will be a good week on Wall street.Never mind the unemployment figures, something good about housing.:screw:
Now we can all rest easy tonight. Riiiiiiiiight.
I do not believe any talking heads anymore.

Of course. Everything is good. Housing sales rose because of the drop in housing prices. Then when the new buyers get laid off, those homes can be foreclosed again.:shr:
 

Old Eagle

Inactive
Wow, thanks for all your work in collecting so many news stories and putting them in one spot, Leska!

If anybody still needs a big slap in the face to wake them up, that ought to do it.

Thanks (I think).

Old Eagle
 

gr8outdrsmn

Inactive
Thanks for the conglomeration of info. Maybe seening it like this will help to sink it into some sheeple's heads. Doubtful, but we can always hope...
 

mbabulldog

Has No Life - Lives on TB
If Caterpillar is laying off shit has hit the fan I come from Caterpillar country and it is as rock solid of a company as you cat get...Good management, good product, good reputation of it's product it has everything going for it....
Another company to watch is ADM

yeah, this has ME concerned. If Obama is supposed to free up all the money for infrastructure projects, Caterpillar is the right company to take advantage of those programs. If they're hurting WE'RE ALL HURTING!!!
 

Sassafras

Deceased
If Caterpillar is laying off shit has hit the fan I come from Caterpillar country and it is as rock solid of a company as you cat get...Good management, good product, good reputation of it's product it has everything going for it....
Another company to watch is ADM

You must be from my neck of the woods, ocd. You're right about Cat. So far, ADM seems to be doing ok. No reports of slowdowns there. I'll ask around to confirm that though.
 

KKC

Veteran Member
Yeah, I just went over and perused tickerforum.org and found nothing but more bad news. Not that I really thought I would find a ray of sunshine or anything.

We watched a newly released show on History channel yesterday comparing current events to the Great Depression and we just sat there, so somber , after the show ended.

What wast the name of the show?
 

Cascadians

Leska Emerald Adams
http://www.lifeaftertheoilcrash.net/BreakingNews.html

Breaking News: Tuesday January 27th, 2009

International Herald Tribune: Massive Amounts of Drug Money Being Used to Keep Banks Afloat as It's the "only liquid investment capital available"

The United Nations' crime and drug watchdog has indications that money
made in illicit drug trade has been used to keep banks afloat in the global
financial crisis, its head was quoted as saying on Sunday. Vienna-based
UNODC Executive Director Antonio Maria Costa said in an interview released
by Austrian weekly Profil that drug money often became the only available
capital when the crisis spiralled out of control last year. "In many
instances, drug money is currently the only liquid investment capital," he
was quoted as saying by Profil. "In the second half of 2008, liquidity was
the banking system's main problem and hence liquid capital became an
important factor." The United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime had found
evidence that "interbank loans were funded by money that originated from
drug trade and other illegal activities," Costa was quoted as saying. There
were "signs that some banks were rescued in that way . . ."

Reuters: Who on Earth Has $2 Trillion to Loan to Barack Obama Right Now?

The Obama administration will have to persuade the world that the U.S.
strong dollar policy is for real this time as it prepares to borrow $2 trillion
to revive the U.S. economy from its worst crisis in decades. Less than 48
hours after Barack Obama became president, his choice for U.S. Treasury
secretary, Timothy Geithner, said a strong dollar is in the United States’
interest. That phrasing — first used by former Treasury Secretary Robert
Rubin more than 14 years ago — lost its weight and credibility when it was
over-used by the Bush administration. The greenback lost about 40 percent
of its value versus the euro and more than 15 percent versus the yen
between 2000 and 2008. A weaker currency was an important step for the
Bush White House in rebalancing a global economy plagued by a U.S. trade
deficit and huge Chinese surplus. "Trillions worth of U.S. debt is coming
soon to the markets. Which foreign central bank or institution will buy this
debt if they're not fully convinced the dollar will remain strong?” he added.

Robert Gates in the BBC: Barack Obama's Administration Makes it Clear that (Opium Rich) Afghanistan is "our top overseas military priority"

Barack Obama's new administration sees Afghanistan as its "greatest
military challenge", US Defence Secretary Robert Gates has told Congress.
"President Obama has made it clear that the Afghanistan theatre should be
our top overseas military priority," Gates said. International coordination of
the fight against the insurgency had been "less than stellar", he added. The
defence secretary also warned that new "setbacks" in Iraq were possible.
"There may be hard days ahead for our troops [in Iraq]," he said while
noting that violence there had remained low. He said the Pentagon would
probably be in a position to deploy three combat brigades to Afghanistan . .

Wall Street Journal: "Bankers facing worst nightmare yet as credit losses could balloon unpredictably, setting off unprecedented wave of defaults"

Bankers’ worst nightmare is the unemployment rate climbing toward 10%,
a level at which credit losses could balloon unpredictably because of high
defaults among people with previously strong credit histories. Right now,
bank balance sheets don’t appear in a position to deal with unemployment
moving sharply higher from its current 7.2% rate. Building up bad-loan
reserves to deal with a 9% to 10% rate could produce enormous losses
and pulverize capital when banks are trying to preserve the thin cushions
they have. Why the trepidation of going above 9%? Take a regular credit
card book. Past data show that a percentage-point increase in the rate of
unemployment leads to roughly a percentage-point rise in the charge-off
rate, the amount of defaulted loans written off at a loss. But as the rate of
unemployment exceeds 9%, bankers think charge-offs will start to increase
by more than the increase in unemployment. The reason? A high rate could
cause an unprecedented wave of defaults among prime borrowers, who
tend to have bigger balance balances "The situation is so extreme and
beyond what we’ve seen in past cycles that management teams are
becoming reluctant to predict the relationship between unemployment and
credit losses," said Kevin Fitzsimmons, analyst at Sandler O’Neill & Partners.

Financial Times: Nations Turn to System of Barter to Secure Food Supplies

Countries struggling to secure credit have resorted to barter and secretive
government-to-government deals to buy food, with some contracts worth
hundreds of millions of dollars. In a striking example of how the global
financial crisis and high food prices have strained the finances of poor and
middle-income nations, countries including Russia, Malaysia, Vietnam and
Morocco say they have signed or are discussing inter-government and
barter deals to import commodities from rice to vegetable oil. The revival
of these practices, used rarely in the last 20 years and usually by nations
subject to international embargoes and the old communist bloc, is a result
of the countries’ failure to secure trade financing as bank lending has dried
up. The countries have not disclosed the value of any deals, and some
have refused to confirm their existence. Officials estimated they ranged
from $5m for smaller contracts to more than $500m for the biggest . .

Market Watch: U.S. Economy Contracted Violently in Fourth Quarter 2008

The U.S. economy contracted violently in the fourth quarter, with GDP
falling at its fastest pace in more than 25 years, economists said ahead of
what promises to be a grim week of economic news. "Real economic
activity fell off a cliff during the fourth quarter, producing a sharp drop in
employment, output and spending," wrote economists at Wachovia. And
the worst part is that it's not over. Economists expect another huge
decline in the first quarter, with a smaller contraction in the second
quarter. GDP is expected to have fallen at a 5.5% annualized rate in the
final three months of last year. That would be the biggest decline since the
6.4% drop in early 1982 and one of the worst quarters since World War II.

Bloomberg: November Home Prices in United States Fell Average of 18%

Home prices in 20 U.S. cities declined 18.2 percent in November from a
year earlier, the fastest drop on record, as foreclosures climbed and sales
sank. The decrease in the S&P/Case-Shiller index was in line with forecasts
and followed an 18.1 percent drop in October. Record foreclosures have
contributed to more than $1 trillion in losses worldwide that have prompted
banks to shut off access to credit. While plunging values have made homes
more affordable, they have also hurt household wealth, contributing to a
slump in spending that’s likely to continue for the first half of the year.

NY Times: Companies Across the Country Resorting to Massive Job Cuts

Furloughs, wage reductions, hiring freezes and shorter hours simply did not
do enough. A year into this recession, companies across the board are
resorting to mass job cuts. Home Depot, Caterpillar, Sprint Nextel and at
least eight other companies announced on Monday they would cut more
than 75,000 jobs in the United States and around the world — a gloomy
start to the workweek for employees anxious about holding their own as
the economy sinks. Jobs began disappearing in home building and mortgage
operations early in the recession, then across finance and banking more
generally. Now the ax is falling across large swaths of the manufacturing,
retailing and information technology sectors Just last week, Microsoft
announced its first significant job cuts ever. Because companies like
Microsoft have invested in their workers’ skills and knowledge, they usually
delay major work force reductions as long as they can. But with orders for
new products and services drying up and financing tight, employers are
looking to shrink their costs drastically and are slashing their payrolls . . .

NY Times: Americans Were Deep in Debt and Now They're Deep in Worry

These gloomy thoughts have been compounded by the holiday newsletters
I have been getting from old pals and classmates. I have been getting
them for about 45 years. This season, for the first time I can recall, the
talk in the newsletters is not the usual tales of world-beating triumph by
genius children, but of jobs lost, homes in jeopardy, children whose jobs
have vanished and who are on the road looking for work. And all of this is
compounded again because my handsome son, age 21, a student, has just
married a lovely young woman, 20. You may have seen on television the
pudgy, aging face of their sole means of support. I have been pondering
what advice to give them about money. What I keep coming up with is
this: Do not act like typical Americans. Do not fail to save. Do not get
yourself in debt up to your eyeballs. Work and take pride and honor from
your work. Learn a useful skill that Americans really need. Learn to be self
-sufficient through your own contributions, as the saying goes . . .

UK Telegraph: "Families should brace for a second Great Depression . . ."

Families must brace themselves for a slump of far greater severity and
longevity than the recessions of the 1980s and 1990s, they warned. They
said the current crisis will be of a scale to rival the biggest peace-time
crisis in modern history — the Great Depression. The warning was delivered
by economists and politicians after the Office for National Statistics
revealed that the economy shrank by 1.5% in the final three months of
2008 alone. The contraction follows a 0.6 per cent fall in gross domestic
product (GDP) — the most comprehensive measure of Britain’s wealth
generation - during the previous three months. This means Britain fulfils
the criteria for a technical recession - two successive quarters of negative
output. The news sent the pound sliding to its lowest level since 1985.

Sacramento Bee: California One Week Away From "Plan D" - Issuing IOUs Which May Not be Accpeted by Banks

The controller says California is down to Plan D on its checklist of paying
bills. Its cash reserves are piddling; the special funds it borrows from are
tapped out, and no one in the private sector is going to lend it any cash at
a reasonable interest rate. That leaves what in state government circles
are called "payment deferrals" and what in real life is called "stiffing your
creditors." In this case the creditors include income taxpayers expecting
refunds, college students waiting on state aid, counties that operate public
assistance programs, and companies that sell goods and services to state
agencies. The state’s cash situation is somewhat analogous to your family
emptying its checking account, drawing down the savings account to cover
checks, and only having enough left to pay either the utility bill. Of course
you could then file for bankruptcy protection. Under federal law, the state
can’t do that, but it can do something you can’t: Issue IOUs.

Market Rap: Oil Production in Russia Suggests World Supplies on the Brink

Russian oil production decreased for the first time in 10 years according to
Vedomosti, a Russian newspaper. The decrease was only 0.7%, while
exports were reduced more dramatically year over year, down 6.2%. The
fall in Russian production may be a major turning point in worldwide crude
oil production. While OPEC nations such as top producer Saudi Arabia get
the attention of most speculators, it is important to note that Russia is the
second largest crude oil producer and exporter in the world. In fact, by
itself, Russia almost matches the total exports of the third, fourth and fifth
top exporting nations combined (Norway, Iran and the UAE) If Russian oil
production has indeed peaked, it leaves the world with only three major
exporters that are still supposedly able to continue to increase production:
Saudi Arabia, Kuwait and Iraq. Given the massive oil consumption needs of
the United States, that leaves America in a particularly vulnerable position
at a time when the United States is already facing a financial crisis . . .
 
Deflation or inflation....if you have cash, you loose. So what to do? Buy preps, or get the new roof, heater, water pump, car, seed, whatever, NOW before your cash looses more value?
 

TIK

Inactive
Cardinal is right. EVERY PICTURE THAT'S PAINTED IS DOOM, if I could be so bold as to add on. This is not good. I've been saying for the past several days, since our State Controller stated and the MSM sort of glossed over it....when the IOU's start showing up in place of real checks (MONEY) for those disabled and poor welfare recepients (who probably don't have the means to actually SAVE money), it will be within a very very very short amount of time when they run out of food. And when there's no food on the table, we will have riots.

I really don't think I have to be an expert in fiscal matters like some of our folks here to forecast some very very serious social breakdowns in my state--ESPECIALLY in the southern California, ESPECIALLY in the Los Angeles Metro area. The "entitlement" folks will be hunting.

I cannot for the life of me understand why NO ONE is understanding this point in the halls of power. If you cut off money, what do you do to survive.

The words "Whatever It Takes" comes to mind.

I'm very scared. This is easily the scariest thread I have ever read anywhere. We are on the precipice of an extremely unbelievable time right now.
 

Grantbo

Inactive
I was under the impression that bamma was going to fix everything. Hope and change and all that. Yes..........we.................can.

All I've seen is a this pathetic incompetent searching for a clue. This country is being lead by an imbecile. :fl2:
 

Flippper

Time Traveler
I really don't think I have to be an expert in fiscal matters like some of our folks here to forecast some very very serious social breakdowns in my state--ESPECIALLY in the southern California, ESPECIALLY in the Los Angeles Metro area. The "entitlement" folks will be hunting.

I cannot for the life of me understand why NO ONE is understanding this point in the halls of power. If you cut off money, what do you do to survive.

The sheeple believe in their Messiah to save them. Once the system breaks down, they will rely on their Messiah to not punish them for their crimes. I think we are about to see atrocities the likes of which have never been committed before. Then Martial Law and the confiscations of goods will occurr, the true distribution of wealth, from you to them.


I have a question. For those who own gold, in the event of repatriation, how is it done? Do they take it and give you worthless FRN's for it or what? While they take the gold, I imagine they will save time and grab the guns too.

Fiance' finally saw the light the other night, stayed up watching youtube videos on gun confiscations in New Orleans. The cops showed up in the middle of the night and caught some unawares, took their guns and gave no receipt. Some guns were smashed in front of the owners. Watched where a young soldier when asked if he would kill an American citizen, and he replied that he hated to think of having to do it, but he would.

He told me about it the next morning, and realized what had to be done. He's suddenly sold on BOB's too.
 

Cascadians

Leska Emerald Adams
I think Tik is right. The worthless IOUs will set off riots.

It's perplexing, the questions of what to do now. If you have a little money do you hang onto it or spend it on tangibles fearing the money will be smelly germy scrap paper in the near future.
 

Wowser

Inactive
I just got this as an email. Today's Celente interview is detailed in the third section. FYI I do not know anything about the author of the first section. I know one of last year's GEAB reports mentioned USGOV financial collapse by June 2009ad. :shr:

Government Is About To Collapse

Posted by stienster on 01/17/09 03:14 AM

America has fallen from its lofty perch. It lies in pieces
scattered across the country's landscape, the victim of greed. In
2006 I launched the Reenactment of 1776. In my first mailing I said
that what was coming was "people will be losing their homes in
unprecedented numbers, banks will be going under, unemployment will
skyrocket, and that we would go into a depression like this country
has never experienced." It was a unique position to take at that
time because the economy was humming along and no one in the
government or Wall Street even mentioned a scenerio like this. Now
it is 2009 and everything has come true. A basic knowledge of
economics 101 was all that was needed to predict this catastrophe.
My new forecast calls for the collaspe of the government. Recently,
I put out an idea for the people to create a bank with which we could
use to fight the tyranny and corruption that got this country where
it is today, on the brink of collapse This is no longer feasible
because we cannnot create the bank quick enough to accomplish this
goal. Even if it were possible, the ensuing collapse of the
financial system and the government will ruin the people whether they
have this bank or not. Here is why there is a high probablility that
the collapse is going to happen.

1. The government finances its debt by selling treasury bills, notes
and bonds. In its simplest terms either people or institutions give
their money to the government. In return the government gives an
investor a bill, note or bond. These instruments are basically IOU's
with varying lengths of maturity. These range from 30 days to 30
years. When these instruments mature the government is responsible
to pay off the IOU.

2. Historically, the biggest investors in these financial instruments
have been financial institutions and central banks of other
governments. These institutions are banks, insurance companies and
pension funds. The government is now lending money to banks and
insurance companies. Therefore, the government cannot be loaned
money from the banks or insurance companies. The pension funds are
crippled by their investments and have no money to lend to the
governement. As this is a world wide depression, foreign countries
are in the same situation as our government. They cannot lend our
government any money.

3. The government is experiencing a reduction in income because
people are not working and are not paying taxes. Instead people are
collecting social security, unemployment and welfare, accounting for
a negative cash flow for the government. More is going out then is
coming in. As the depression worsens so does the negative cash
flow. On top of that we're in a war which is consuming more
government money. On top of that there will be between $750 billion
to $1 trillion of debt created by the initial bail out, maybe more.
Obama has proposed to create another $800 billion of debt under the
auspices that it is an economic stimulus package. When the corrupt
lawmakers get finished with it the number will be probably around
$1trillion. As is the same for individuals, as long as the debt
expense to income is kept at a fiscally responsible percentage then
the debt is managed properly and poses no problem. However, when the
percentage of debt expense gets too big in relation to income then a
point is reached where the debt cannot be paid back. The
government's debt is now too large in relation to the gross domestic
product. Like what happened to everyone that has defaulted on their
mortagages the government has so much debt that it has reached the
point of no return.

4. What the government did for years was borrow money and then when
the IOU's matured they borrowed more to pay those off. This was
basically a Ponzi scheme. In addition to that scheme the corrupt
politicians looted social security and other funds that held cash
leaving an IOU behind. There is no more money to loot.

5. When these bonds mature the government has to pay them off. If
they cannot pay them off then they will default. The United States
government has never defaulted on its bonds. If you and I default on
our debt then that means we're bankrupt, kaput, out of business. Same
with the government. If the government defaults then no one will
loan it any more money. These bonds mature every quarter, March,
June, September and December. The fall of our government will
probably come during one of these months within the next year to year
and a half.

6. If the government cannot borrow then they have one alternative.
That is to just print the money to pay off the IOU's. It is called
monetarizing the debt. They will have to print so much money that
the worth of a dollar will be reduced to nothing. Too much money
chasing too few goods creates inflation, which will in all likelihood
result in a hyperinflation not seen since the pre-World War II days
in Germany. In this scenereo the dollar will become like the
Confederate currency of old or the German mark prior to Hitler. In
Germany they had to get a wheel barrow and fill it with money just to
go to the store for a loaf of bread. Those that forget the past are
doomed to repeat it. A loaf of bread could easily go to $50 or
higher. For people on fixed incomes the burden will be
insurmountable, because their income will not go up; it is fixed. For
people on retirement, social secuity, unemployment and welfare,
clearly one fourth of their income would go for one loaf of bread.
The people will not be able to eat or purchase staples that they need.

7. If hyperinflation hits, the worth of the bonds will plumment.
Individuals, institutions and investors and foreign governments will
either sell every bond they have or risk losing everything invested.
The ones who will have to buy those bonds are banks, insurance
companies and pension funds. As stated above, they are broke and
cannot buy the bonds. The government bond market will fall apart,
only this time the government will not be able to bail it out. This
will be equivilent to a run on a bank, only this will be a run on our
entire financial system.

8. Because local and county governments don't have borrowing power
they will be the first to fold. Individual states and then the
federal government will follow into default. If the police aren't
getting paid they won't be on the streets. Minus law and order,
chaos, rioting, looting and other forms of lawlessness will take
place. It will get ugly.

9. The only positive thing or silver lining is that those corrupt
politicians and lawyers that have stolen all our money from us will
find that their money is also worthless.

10. Obama's plan is a political plan, not an economic plan. It will
be counterproductive to the economy and actually accelerate the
problems.

11. If we were to create the bank then all of our assets would be
dollar denominated. Because of that the bank would get wiped out
along with all of the investors. The plan was a good one but it was
based on the fact that the government would continue as a going
concern. The level of debt and the level of corruption have proved to
be too much for the system to handle. It will collapse – totally!

12. This forecast is from the same guy with the same economics
background that forecast this depression. These forecasts are not
doomsday forecasts; they are based on basic economics 101.

13. If you have any doubt about this forecast I will ask you one
question. Why are the Secretary of Treasury and the Chairman of the
Federal Reserve working with members of the government planning
military actions within this country and why are they making plans to
enact Martial Law? It's simple, they used economics 101 also. Their
conclusion has to be the same as mine.

Everyone who has shown interest in the bank has the same thought
at heart. They want to save the country because it has been going in
the wrong direction. The hardest part of revolution is taking over
the government. With no action on our part the government is going
to collapse for us. It will create an opportuinty for us. Or it
will create our worst nightmare. Luck is when planning meets
opportunity. If the people are ready they will be able to seize the
moment. If anybody has any ideas on how to make this situation work
for us then please contact me with your suggestions. As for me, I'm
considering arming myself for the first time in my life.

Larry Bumgarner, founder of Reenactment of 1776
larry@reenactmentof1776.com

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Gerald Celente along with Peter Shiff, Bob Chapman and Ron Paul are just about the only ones who are right on the money.


CODE RED - Economy in Collapse
Drastic Actions Will Be Taken
Trends Research Institute
1-23-9


KINGSTON, NY, 22 January 2009 -- President Barack Obama will use his poll shattering popularity to swiftly enact policies that will prove to be among the most costly and potentially destructive in America's history, predicts Trends Research Institute Director Gerald Celente.

"We are forecasting dramatic measures will soon be taken by the Obama Administration that will worsen the credit crisis and severely damage the nation's economic system," says Celente.

According to The Trends Research Institute Director, the new President who swept into the White House on a tidal wave of unprecedented enthusiasm and the blessings of a strong majority, will have free reign to take whatever actions he deems necessary.

"Whatever Obama wants, Obama gets. Desperate, scared and not knowing what to do to survive the economic storm, people are seeking a messiah to save them, and Obama is their man," said Celente. "When fear rules, reason and logic are ruled out." (According to an AP poll, 71 percent of Americans believe the economy will improve during the first year of the Obama presidency.)

The 332-point stock market decline that greeted Mr. Obama into office (a record breaker for Inauguration Day) and today's 105-point market decline will be followed by a steady stream of worsening economic news and major financial calamities, Gerald Celente forecasts. Just as President Bush exploited 9/11 as a pretext to wage the War on Terror, invade Iraq, abrogate the Constitution and exert broad Executive powers (with bipartisan and majority public support), President Obama will be given even greater latitude to fight a war on economic terror, predicts Celente.

For example, Timothy Geithner, President Obama's nominee for Treasury Secretary, has pledged to expand and prolong government intervention in the financial markets. He said his economic team would take "forceful" and "substantial action" on a "very dramatic scale" to "forge an integrated strategy on how best to achieve currency realignment."

Celente advises to closely read the signals that have been clearly telegraphed by Mr. Geithner. "From proclaiming a bank holiday, confiscating gold to backstop devaluing currencies, mega-bailouts for the too-big-to-fails ... to nationalizing public firms and dollar devaluation ... whichever of these or other actions are taken, the financial burden will fall on the American people," Celente forecasts.

Blame the Little People
In his inauguration speech President Obama warned Americans of tougher times ahead and for the need to make greater sacrifices. In doing so, the President placed equal blame for the global financial crisis on the public's "collective failure to make hard choices," along with the "consequences of greed and irresponsibility on the part of some."

"The President is correct. Many have spent beyond their means, borrowed themselves into debt, took risks playing the markets, and speculated on real estate," said Celente. "But comparing Main Street's financial missteps to the large scale corruption and criminality of the banks, brokers, insurance companies, hedge fund operators, mortgage companies, rating agencies and buyout firms that cooked the books, enriched executives, ripped off clients and rigged the numbers, is further evidence that Obama is a Wall Street man.

Trendpost: Do you know where your money is? Is it safe? Will you be able to get it when you need it? What will you do if trading is temporarily suspended on Wall Street? Will you be able redeem your CD's?

The new Treasury Secretary promises "a very dramatic scale" of action that may in turn require you to take very dramatic counter measures to protect your assets. We forecast with great confidence that whatever actions Washington takes to save the "too big to fails," they will prove very costly for the "too small to saves" who will be forced to foot the bills and eat the losses.

_______________________


Celente was on the Alex Jones show today 1-27-09 www.infowars.com

and said by March of this year we will be in the worst depression this country has ever scene. He said the empty vacant non-rented, business buildings will start to hit in Feb. and bring the house down.

Hes not sure if this government will confiscate gold (Bob Champman has always maintained that there is not enough gold for this government to worry about, rather they will take peoples pensions via. 401ks)

He said that the sheeple will continue to "believe" in this celebrity tiger-woodish man of Obama to save us.

He said were going to see economic riots/crisis with the military and police being brought in and FEMA camps that will last for a year which could eventually turn into a positive change with a possible secession movement going forward. note; Celente predicted Ross Perot before Ross even put his name in the ring and is very Pro Ron Paul.

He said that the elite is going to continue to squeeze more out of the "little people" working poor and middle class (protecting the yuppies) until they wont take it anymore.

The elite will/is hoping that the middle class will continue to have zero understanding that it was the take over by the Central Banks in the 1800s and will place their anger elsewhere.
 

Moggy

Inactive
I have a question. For those who own gold, in the event of repatriation, how is it done? Do they take it and give you worthless FRN's for it or what? While they take the gold, I imagine they will save time and grab the guns too.

Let's say at the time of gold conversion to worthless fiat that gold is selling at $3,000 an ounce...the gov't thieves might offer $500 for one ounce of gold to those who still have it remaining in the country and who would be willing to take the hit. Those who have removed their gold from gov't clutches would be able to sell it at the going price in a foreign country.

Moggy
 

ARMY RANGER

Inactive
I was under the impression that bamma was going to fix everything. Hope and change and all that. Yes..........we.................can.

All I've seen is a this pathetic incompetent searching for a clue. This country is being lead by an imbecile. :fl2:

I agree my friend and the worst is yet to come!!!:shkr:
 

Hardpan

Senior Member
The layoffs at Cat should say it all to anyone who will listen that it is not good and not about to get better anytime soon.
 

Surprise

Inactive
Channel surfing last night and stopped temporarily on CNBC and a guy whose name I did not catch, was saying Come on people!! The banking system is insolvent.
Now I know this has been said time and again in many different ways, but that short statement using the word insolvent just really hit home for me in a big way. That statement is more like seeing the big tree without being distracted by the forest.


This talk about seizing 401(K)'s and other retirement plans is bad bad news and I worry about what people would do, among others my husband. He would go berserk.
 

Hokey

Veteran Member
I'm now officiallly, extremely, truly worried. I'm mostly worried for you Americans because I believe you're at the forefront of this mess and will suffer the worst. Go into exteme conservation mode now and prepare to live like you have no income. This board has preached self reliance and knowledge for some time but now is the time I believe this will come into practice. Plan A should be initiated folks. And if you're stuck in a city with no bug out place....find one, quick.

I'm not a woo woo kind of guy but this economic death spiral is picking up speed. I agree Obama's budget and spending spree will end up being political with every politician who has a say doing the same thing as in the past - being greedy, and looking to see what it can do for them. Nobody sees the big picture here, can't see the forest for the trees, and there's a forest fire coming.

Watch March. The markets willl stabilize for some sectors but earnings will again disappoint. Commercial property companies will start to get hit hard. A second wave of residential property hiccups will hit. US jobless numbers will accelerate and states/municipalities will have zero money for anything. We haven't yet seen the affect that massive layoffs have had for retail and taxes...its coming. Banks will continue to be propped up with imaginary money.

I'll say it again. I'm extremely worried. These are unprecedented times.
 

UncurledA

Inactive
The Larry Bumgarner article is a practical adjunct to this thread. This particular point from it ( Wowser's post #29 ) makes an extraordinary amount of sense, and bears second notice:

2. Historically, the biggest investors in these financial instruments
have been financial institutions and central banks of other
governments. These institutions are banks, insurance companies and
pension funds. The government is now lending money to banks and
insurance companies. Therefore, the government cannot be loaned
money from the banks or insurance companies. ( Note: at least the biggest ones, like AIG, for example ) The pension funds are
crippled by their investments and have no money to lend to the
government. As this is a world wide depression, foreign countries
are in the same situation as our government. They cannot lend our
government any money.
 

Surprise

Inactive
Thank you Uncurled! That one statement gave me a much better understanding of some of this confusing mess.
 

changed

Preferred pronouns: dude/bro
On the Atlanta tv news they had a reporter who explained that we've entered something like a negative feedback loop. A bunch of people get laid off. They don't have jobs so they can't pay their mortgages or buy stuff. Since fewer people are buying stuff it causes other companies to lay their people off. Repeat cycle.
 

Cascadians

Leska Emerald Adams
The mood around here is escalating tension. At work ppl are melting down, throwing hissy fits, having constant "hurt feelings," demanding pay raises, more help, wanting more shifts, quitting, etc. They've become anxious and are not being mature about changing realities. This is in a posh privileged highly skilled place. The rednecks in our hood are getting very antsy and aggressive and demanding money. Portland just had its worst mass shooting and gang crime is way up. Fear right now is justified by facts.

Confiscate those 401ks and you'll see boomers turn into lynch mobs.
 

Pass Go

Inactive
Confiscate those 401ks and you'll see boomers turn into lynch mobs. Cascadians

I'm very afraid that will be coming down the pike before long. No retirement, but rather, if we're lucky, a "settlement."
 
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