GOV/MIL SC Senator Jim DeMint - We're going to have riots

Mr. Mason

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This may be old news (12/10/2008) but I had not seen it yet. Video clip of Jim Demint saying we are going to have "riots" before the economic crisis is over.

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He said it without a moment’s hesitation. It was a short, five-word answer to a routine, open-ended question. Yet, it was an answer that was so apolitical, so unexpected, and so profoundly shocking that it left this long-time politico momentarily stunned.

Sen. Jim DeMint (R-SC) had just emerged from a press conference on the Big Three bailout. Like Coolidge opined when asked what his minister had said in a sermon on sin, “He was against it.” And, also like Coolidge’s minister, Mr. DeMint had made it clear that regardless of what course others may take, he intended to fight it tooth and nail.

So, I knew the Senator had taken a strong stand. But just how strong a stand he had taken – and strongly he felt about the consequences of not standing strongly enough – had not occurred to me even in the slightest. Until I met him emerging from the press conference and asked the seemingly innocuous question.

Mike in hand, camera running, I asked the Senator, “Where do you think the bail-out mania is going to end?"

Then came the short, rifle-shot response that set me back on my haunches. I have worked with countless thousands of politicians since my earliest days at the Committee to Re-Elect the President (that’s 36 years for those of you hastily flicking digits). And I have never, ever heard a politician respond to a softball question with such a hardball answer. So, let me give it to you straight, just as he gave it to me:

“We’re going to have riots.”

That’s it. That’s what the man said. Without hesitation. Without glancing at his aides for a nod of assent. Without pondering long and hard to weigh the impact on the next election or his latest fundraising letter.

He said it. And he meant it. And before Barack Obama and his Congress of Audacity hold out false hopes to millions of Americans about to be torn asunder by an economic tsunami, somebody up on “The Hill,” or at the other end of Pennsylvania Avenue, better stop, look, and listen to a solitary man bold enough to utter a single sentence of unvarnished truth.

Clearly discerning that I was more than a bit taken aback by his blunt assessment, he generously took the time to explain his response. And it was an explanation that did little or nothing to assuage the essential message:

“Already people are rioting because they’re losing their jobs and somebody else has been bailed out. And the unfairness of it becomes more and more evident as we go along, because the auto companies may be hurting, but there are very few companies that aren’t hurting. And they’re going to hurt. We don’t have enough money to bail everyone out.”

Now, I want you to pause and digest that for just a moment. Because, you see, it didn’t come from a fire-and-brimstone preacher out to scare the hell out of a wayward flock. Or from a five-ply demagogue out to garner votes by raising rabble.

This came from a highly respected U.S. Senator who has a firmly established reputation for calmly telling the truth as he sees it, for putting unwavering principle above political expediency time after time and again. The reliably liberal Washington Post has described him as a “hero” to those “adhering to core conservative principles.” And the equally reliably conservative Examiner newspapers have editorially endorsed him as “an articulate leader.” In short, he has gained well-earned plaudits from across the political spectrum.

So, when Jim DeMint warns of “riots,” it’s time to knock off the political pandering and posturing and take a long, hard, serious look a rash of hasty, ill-conceived actions that may be inexorably leading the nation into a bloody abyss.

On November 28, just two short weeks ago, the New York Daily News ran a story about what happens when hopes are falsely raised, then forlornly dashed. It sent a chill up the spines of knowing Americans as it affirmed anew that it can, indeed, happen here:

“A Wal-Mart worker died early Friday after an ‘out-of-control’ mob of frenzied shoppers smashed through the Long Island store's front doors and trampled him, police said.

“The Black Friday stampede plunged the Valley Stream outlet into chaos, knocking several employees to the ground and sending others scurrying atop vending machines to avoid the horde.

“When the madness ended, 34-year-old Jdimytai Damour was dead and four shoppers, including a woman eight months pregnant, were injured.”

That’s right, Jdimytai Damour died and four shoppers, including a woman eight months pregnant, were injured because somebody built up hopes that everyone suddenly realized couldn’t be met. And somewhere off in the far distance, in a time not yet realized, but inching ineluctably forward, the words echoed from a solitary Senator’s mouth:

“We’re going to have riots.”

And that’s what happens when the “politics of hope” are cynically dashed.

Carter Clews is the Executive Editor of ALG News Bureau.
 

Cascadians

Leska Emerald Adams
http://www.lifeaftertheoilcrash.net/BreakingNews.html

"Breaking News: Monday January 19th, 2008
Editor's Note: Message from Mike Ruppert Regarding Economic Riots in Europe and the Potential for Civil Unrest in the United States
I'm posting Monday's update tonight (Sunday) as I won't be able to update the news page until late Monday afternoon. Below you will find excerpted a very important message that Mike Ruppert sent out via email late last night. It should be up on his blog sometime Monday, if it isn't by the time you read this. I've started a discussion of what you're about to read over at the LATOC Forum.

Perhaps we should be holding our breaths for something else; something that is breaking out all over the world. Civil unrest now moves from a back to a front burner as a landmark on our map and a pressing issue for our discussion.

On January 16th and 17th I saw (either) cowardice or duplicity on the part of mainstream media. Chesley Sullenberger is a great pilot. Coming from an Air Force/aviation family I would be honored to shake his hand. The U.S. Air miracle on the Hudson was indeed that. But for almost 36 hours I watched in rage as the mainstream media, especially CNN, played the same four of five clips endlessly, over and over, rehashing the rehash – hour after hour. The anchors and their producers were either taking a break or regrouping. Several looked very bored. Not since 9-11 have I seen American media shut down news coverage of other important events to such a degree. But the US Air crash landing wasn't a 9-11 was it?

On January 16th the United States shed another 21,000 jobs… in one day. Globally, the economic collapse is hitting other industrialized countries much harder than here. Around the world "emerging" bourses are imploding at a faster rate than ours. Perhaps we should rename them as "disappearing markets" now. The disappearing act has hit turbo charge in Europe as a result of a now three-week old lack of Russian natural gas. Triggered by the economic collapse and compounded by human suffering in unheated, near-zero weather, riots – big ones – have erupted from Latvia in the North, to Sofia in the South. There is serious street fighting. Around the world, from China, to India, to Europe, industrialized nations are "frantically" preparing for civil unrest (China at a very rapid pace). Of course our map says that the US, the UK, Russia and a few others have been preparing for this for years.

Arab nations have lost $2.5 trillion (40% of their investments) thus far in the collapse and have postponed or cancelled 60% of their new development projects… You know? Those hotels where you can snow ski inside when it's 112 outside? That kind of a shutdown will cause the Arab oil-producing nations to explode in civil unrest as aggravated poverty, starvation and disease hit home in short order. Collapsed oil prices have exposed the lack of economic stamina in the region. (You thought Americans were foolish spenders.) The luxuries of the princes will now stand starkly contrasted against the barren desert of their subjects' lives. Thus, geography is giving us our first major political tectonic fault line. From the Baltic south, through Greece, into Turkey, then fanning out across the Middle East is a new frontier of soon-to-be flaming unrest

Unrest will happen here and it will happen in an earthshaking fashion within the next year. Could the evidence supporting this conclusion have been missed as we watched footage on the Hudson for the thirty-second time in 36 hours? Couldn't they have squeezed any of this other news in… somewhere?

WHILE WE WERE SLEEPING great folks like Rice Farmer continued to cull the world press to document the accelerating global collapse and send out stories on a daily basis. Good grief can that man read a map! When meshed with the research from both me and Jenna, the last three days have been an absolute horror show.

As examples:

The EU has effectively nationalized Britain's gas production to cope with the shutdown of Russian gas to Eastern Europe. Over the last two or three years I have received first-hand confirmation from North Sea oil and gas workers that – as a result of the North Sea's serious decline and depletion – many nearly-empty oil fields are being converted to suck out whatever methane remains in now-depleted oil reservoirs. This has allowed geologists and owners to extend fieldlife (profitability) for maybe a few more years. Now however, for the first time, British natural gas is flowing out to help Bulgaria, Bosnia, Croatia and many other east European countries which are shattering like ice crystals in the cold. British heating rates are soaring and there may be thousands more "excess deaths" there by freezing this winter. Already, a debate is underway urging UK withdrawal from the EU. It remains to be seen whether the heat from public opinion will warm policy making. Britain is a major candidate for imminent riots.

This current reversal is directly opposite to the map I drew at FTW between 2003 and 2006 which said that Britain would surrender its energy sovereignty to Europe. It did in 2006. But the combination of the sudden (if short-lived) surge in British gas production with the crisis in Eastern Europe has turned a few things on their heads. What is happening in Eastern Europe and the many other places around the world where riots are breaking out will give us clues as to what to expect here. I am afraid that we will be seeing civil unrest in the U.S. very soon and this is the gloom the media is cavalierly trying to "spare" us from so that Americans may have their inaugural moment.

As for Britain and the EU, the Russian gas shut-off will end, hopefully by the end of this next week. A human can freeze to death in a matter of minutes. At present I see no substantial progress. The EU is almost blatantly capitulating by throwing Ukraine back to Moscow. Here! We don't want it! The shut off will pass. Britain's momentary ability to act as a swing producer for Europe cannot last. Public opinion in Britain will likely surge towards secession. But Her Majesty's government knows clearly that this is suicide. Britain will ultimately remain at the end of the Russian natural gas pipeline. But in what condition is anyone's guess. Britain sits along another fault line – the one separating Europe from North America. As Mexico will decide whether it is a Latin American nation or a North American nation, Britain will be compelled to choose whether it is a European nation or a part of the United States, Canada and its far-flung Commonwealth.

As I write, the Russian gas shut off continues and the crisis in Europe nears catastrophic proportions. Please, any regular readers who live in or near the region, send us your reporting, local stories you and find, and your analysis. Artificial conditions in Europe have given us a glimpse of our near future. In Sofia, Budapest and elsewhere people and factories have, as a matter of survival, turned to burning coal and wood to stay alive. This is not as simple as just a return to the Middle Ages because there are hundreds of times more people, concentrated in smaller areas. Already major cities in Eastern Europe are choking on air and water pollution from these "alternative fuels".

CIVIL UNREST IN THE UNITED STATES

This is little more than hunch at the moment. The three likeliest states to have civil unrest first are Michigan, California and Ohio. These are the states hardest hit by job cuts. Ohio is of most concern to me. California is just huge and fragmented. The "fires" here would be rapidly "extinguished" by a state that has well-developed and longstanding historical plans for civil unrest going back to the 1960s. There are really probably five states in California and the fire is unlikely to spread from one "region" to another because each region has a different economic base and a different culture. Michigan is geographically off to the side of the board and already something of a "wasteland". There are no densely-packed masses of dry kindling nearby.

But Ohio is entirely different. Already devastated by auto layoffs and other massive corporate failures, Ohio's industrial areas border and are in close proximity to Kentucky, West Virginia, Indiana and Pennsylvania. Lots of kindling in those states. At the same time as Ohio is devastated by DHL, auto and other layoffs, much of the nation's high-tech wind turbine industry in Ohio is also shutting down at the same time… just when we need it. The snake eats its own tail for nutrition. It is the way money works… for now.

Civil unrest in Ohio could easily infect across state lines here, and cross another fault line that runs east and west, separating north from south; the Mason Dixon. Other earthquakes might be triggered. Eastward from Ohio are Pennsylvania and New Jersey. I wonder how much inter-agency advance planning DHS and FEMA have gone through so that they might operate fluidly across many borders, radio frequencies and jurisdictions. Those contingencies were planned for in the Patriot Act which congress didn't or couldn't read before voting on it. I described all of this in detail in my essay, "The 'F' Word" in 2001.

There isn't even ten per cent of the military manpower required to impose national martial law in the Continental U.S. (CONUS). But my guess is that there will be an expansion of troop deployment in the region around Ohio soon. We should all be watching where troops are
stationed as they (and if) they start coming home.

We all will have a clear understanding of who Barack Obama is and what he represents in short order. He, his administration, and whatever his base is are going to have to show their cards soon. Very soon. What we know is that many of the so-called energy and economic "solutions" espoused by Barack Obama during the campaign and since the election will fail abysmally, at or near the gate. What we pray for are more frequent and stronger signals that ears are open to any who might have some real answers… namely the Peak Oil/Sustainability movement.

In the meantime… In looking at how civil unrest will unfold in the United States it has become pretty apparent that martial law, as we
understand it will not be marked by either large numbers of troops/police in the streets or the oh-so-beloved concentration camp myths of the Far Right. The reason I have made this statement consistently for at least nine years is the same in both cases: lack of resources. There are not enough troops and there is also not enough money, food and manpower to put millions of Americans in expensive concentration camps… AND feed them.

The current economic paradigm's approach will be to leave as many
displaced Americans as a self-mobile migrant work force that will feed, clothe and house itself on its own. That is much less expensive! Plus, when massive labor is needed it will take the labor pool to the work like a man dying of thirst will run for fresh water. The basic expense here is just to police and contain the mess, sort of put a fence around it.

I am one of the few fools to have read all of both the Patriot Act and
the Homeland Security Act, I mean every word. I dissected both at FTW.

All these landmark pieces of legislation are really preparing for is two things. First, the absolute protection of critical infrastructure (e.g. water, power, telecommunications, Internet, hospitals, police and fire stations, airports, military bases, etc.). This is where the military will be used. Second, the maximized control of civilian populations through technology which can deprive them of access to
both cash and credit (i.e. food and mobility). That coupled with nearly ubiquitous electronic surveillance and some very effective, non-lethal, area-denial weapons. Already I can see that millions of Americans are locking themselves into their own "die-off" prisons and
the realization will not hit them for several years. I would not want to be locked in that virtual prison knowing my fate there.

I think it is much less likely that TPTB are interested in us… or even
me. I think they more fear a Spartacus now – or many of them – emerging from those who are about to die. Those of us here who followed the map and changed our lives have removed ourselves from that demographic. We will be needed, and soon. We must be ready.

So MY FIRST RECOMMENDATION is this:

Unless you live in a place surrounded by concrete canyons, and if you have family or a close network, a real neighborhood, go out and buy 5 watt FM walkie-talkies with rechargeable batteries. It's been a few years since I've done research but these radios, which can reach up to two-and-a-half miles, are important for two reasons. First, they do not require any kind of licensing. Neither do they require the use of a satellite or a microwave relay tower. They can't easily be jammed or shut off. They are direct point-to-point and they will work when everything else fails.

A few on this blog were talking about Ham and shortwave. Both are going to be important but (repeating myself) we must survive the transition stage first. In all thinking now, start locally and work outward. If you do not command the ground under your feet you will
never command the ground beyond it.

In an emergency you and your family might be forced to move in a mass exodus with large crowds. How will you know where your family is? How will you keep them together? How will you find one who is lost? How can you use your family to do things that others can't? Remember that if a bear attacks your campsite you do not have to be faster than the bear. You only have to be faster than the slowest camper. (Wink to Barry Silverthorne.) Quick, effective, close-in intelligence and reconnaissance will allow you to keep your heads while others are losing theirs.

Now I know that the Army Signal Corps and Army Security Agency have equipment capable of jamming all these FM frequencies in any battlefield condition. If you have this kind of communications at your disposal, however, you'll probably be far away by the time anything like that happens.

From now on start all of your immediate thinking from the local outward. Those of us who have tried so hard to save the world must also seriously think about saving ourselves from it as well."
 

Malone Laveigh

Inactive
The Senator may be right. However, until people really grasp everything that all the bail-outs entail, it won't happen.

For that "grasping" to begin, it will have to involve people turning off their TV's and paying attention to what is actually going on around them.

But then again, if that were happening, we wouldn't be where we are right now.

So, I guess it's a wait and see situation. ;)



Malone
 

Jean B

Inactive
I went to his blog....:shkr::shkr::shkr:

I hope I can sleep tonight.



He referenced the Q4 that I think Gerald Celente talked about. When does that come out? Anyone know?
 
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Hfcomms

EN66iq
On November 28, just two short weeks ago, the New York Daily News ran a story about what happens when hopes are falsely raised, then forlornly dashed. It sent a chill up the spines of knowing Americans as it affirmed anew that it can, indeed, happen here:

The obamabots are idiots and/or hopelessly naive to think that one man can turn the nation around with all that is coming down around our ears. And Obama has certainly pumped it all up with his message of 'change' so there is a big letdown coming. He might get a month or two of slack from the masses but wait til summer rolls around and it gets hot and all the innercity types are out of work and not getting adequetly fed. It's going to get ugly. So let them have their day of fantasy on Tuesday and let them enjoy it. There's a light at the end of the tunnel and it's a freight train with an attitude.
 

Flippper

Time Traveler
What does he mean by this:
Already I can see that millions of Americans are locking themselves into their own "die-off" prisons and
the realization will not hit them for several years. I would not want to be locked in that virtual prison knowing my fate there.
Inner city habitation? If so it wouldn't take years to die off, but months or weeks.

Interesting commentary. Looks like TB2K is ahead of the crowd.
 
I

am not sure I get the point of your post Chuck. You still in denial that huge and widespread riots can't break out as people are poor and desperate and hungry AND the bulk of the middle class have lost everything?

We are talking about a completely different set of conditions than when Kent State took place, or when those riots by a very small group of minorities decided to riot and burn.

There is a completely DIFFERENT mindset in those 'ghettos' now my friend.


And the lower class and middle class had not JUST lost everything either.
 
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