VOL - Yellowstone throws a fit today - 12-27-08

Looks like three 3.5s, and several hundred smaller ones. Dead center in the middle of the lake. They are picked up at nearly all the stations in some way or form.

Link to all statins

I've been watching all day. Guess Yellowstone might be heating up a bit. The caldera has been growing leaps and bounds for several months. Lets hope she doesn't blow, it was ash clear to the east coast the last time!!!!

Kind of makes me think about the bots prediction and the PNW. Only a couple weeks off the prediction time, it was for the full moon, the new moon can have the same and greater effect on magma and eq's.

Earlier this month there were some comments on a couple of the EQ websites about the Geysers in CA and Mr Baker. Magam issues maybe??

The fartherest most distant vent of somekind that connects to the caldera for Yellowstone is located just outside of Carrizozo NM by about 5 miles. It's called the Valley of Fire or Valley of the Fire. I stopped there a couple of times, really neat, very long lava flow. When reading all the stuff in the tourist center it mentioned the connection to Yellowstone.

It will certainly make for one BIG mess if she goes. The whole world WILL be taken back by it.

NP

i've been watching it all day too......... Maybe it will perk along and look like a hugh catastrophic eruption and get everyone talking a lot and then just give a low eruption and everyone will be very releaved..... and that would match the bot's reading.
Best!motsfo

Seems everything is warming up for the big event in April, why shouldn't Yellowstone perk up a little as well? Simpathetic vibrations and all, just like the infamous 3rd tower on 9-11?
I haven't heard anything about a possible Yellowstone eruption.... at least not yet.

Wow, its going good today. Ive watched yellowstone off and on for 9 years. This is the firs time Ive seen a continual stream of 3-4.0s, constant smaller EQs and a continual stream of tremors. Even when the lake was bulging and rising it didn't react like this.

Heads up

http://www.quake.utah.edu/req2webdir/recenteqs/Maps/Yellowstone.html

http://www.quake.utah.edu/helicorder/

What does "poorly constrained" mean pertaining to an EQ? The EQ seems very shallow.
(Hopefully there's someone else on the short bus with me who would like to know)

http://earthquake.usgs.gov/eqcenter/recenteqsus/Quakes/uu00002485.php
Magnitude 3.2

Date-Time Sunday, December 28, 2008 at 19:55:17 UTC
Sunday, December 28, 2008 at 12:55:17 PM at epicenter
Time of Earthquake in other Time Zones

Location 44.499°N, 110.350°W
Depth 0.4 km (~0.2 mile) (poorly constrained)
Region YELLOWSTONE NATIONAL PARK, WYOMING

I'm not sure what it means. I would have to guess that signals are coming in stronger at some stations and weaker at other then it shifts?

Ive been watching for a steady and continual vibration or tremor and Ive actually found one. It started around five hours ago. Its being picked up at several stations but primarily North of the lake at Mirror Lake, Soda Butte and Mary Lake. As of two hours ago it started showing up at the Promantory which I think would suggest its intensifying.

Now from what I remember and going back to Mt. St. Helens several years ago, these long tremors signaled a new lava flow. The small EQs are rock breaking. Larger EQs signaled lava busing through a larger plate or barrier. In several cases they would even move the stations in order to detect new signs.

In the PNW, you can see these long tremors regularly, and usually it was wind or rain. It also showed up at all the stations around the same time. Here in Yellowstone also, nut these particular tremors seem to show up at three-five stations, then spread to around seven of them, all around the dome. Not sure if its wind or rain but I'm not sure. I guess it could be windy in the dome and not elsewhere but not sure.

SEISMO STATION MAP

Mary Lake (Notice around 9:30 UTC the longer tremors start)

Mirror Lake

Soda Butte (notice it showed some jerking starting around the time of the tremor)

Fallout Map for a major Yellowstone eruption

Thanks for keeping up with this Rex. I haven't been watching Yellowstone, and quakes in general, for as long as you have, but long enough to recognize this as unusual. On several boards, people have been quick to point out that it's nothing unusual, but that just means that they haven't been paying very close attention. Thanks again!

ShakinSouth said:

Thanks for keeping up with this Rex. I haven't been watching Yellowstone, and quakes in general, for as long as you have, but long enough to recognize this as unusual. On several boards, people have been quick to point out that it's nothing unusual, but that just means that they haven't been paying very close attention. Thanks again!

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I only visit there once a week and sometimes even less. I used to go there 2-3 times a day back in 2003, 2004 and when we had the 9.0s, tsunamis, St. Helens, etc. From what I remember a 3.2 at YS happens here or there but not seven to eight 3.0s to 4.0s all in the same spot over a 24hour period. That is not normal.

Rex Jackson said:

Fallout Map for a major Yellowstone eruption

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Rex, please repost the image. I don't think it attached properly...or is it just me?

I think its you. But here are two more. If you notice, they are all pretty similar.



Two Past major eruption fallout map

Wow! Thanks for all the great information!

Vicki

I did a weather search using Yellowstone's zip code 59758. It came up as snowy and windy (20-30mph). Seeing some stations are set up to be more sensative than others, that may explain why a long looking tremor would show up at some stations and not others. So,...I'm now guessing the constant tremor looking readout is wind.

Winds here again tonight as well and they have an eeriness to them. I just keep praying and they swirl right past. Yikes!

Vicki

Thanks Rex!!

Yellowstone thread on main board with about 40 posts including mine - shouldn't these two threads be put together? Think since it's somewhat unusual, keep it on the main. Notice some of us are reporting or asking the same thing.

Moderators please merge the two threads if possible, thank you.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mt._St._Helens_eruption

In all, St. Helens released an estimated 1.673x1018 Joules (1.67 Exajoules) of energy. (The Exajoule is 1*1018 Joules -- A Billion-Billion Joules -- a truly staggering amount of energy. Below, 3 examples provide some perspective and illustrate some tangible high energy events which provide a good sense of scale.): 1.67 Exajules is approximately the amount of energy that would be produced from the detonation of 800 Billion -- (8*1011) -- Pounds of TNT (400Mt). Comparing it instead to a nuclear weapon, in this case Little Boy -- the first of two Atomic bombings of Japan -- which exploded with an estimated yield comparable to 30 Million Pounds of TNT (15Kt), by comparison delivered a minuscule 1/20,000 as much energy. The most powerful bomb ever detonated -- the Russian made Czar Bomba -- was theoretically capable of 100Mt (which would be 1/4 as much energy), however the test was done at 50% yield to reduce the fallout, still generating the equivalent of 100 Billion pounds of TNT or 50Mt, thus the actual test produced 1/8th the energy & easily setting the record for most powerful test, even at 1/2 yield. [22]

Wow! Thanks for Posting! This is indeed very interesting!!! Since the last Big
Eruption, Yellowstone has had a bunch of hydrothermal eruptions espicelly in
the Yellowstone Lake Area. Again, Very Very Interesting and bears watching Bigtime!

Rex Jackson said:

I think its you. But here are two more. If you notice, they are all pretty similar.

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Basically 'everything West of the Mississippi'.

knickgnat said:

Yellowstone thread on main board with about 40 posts including mine - shouldn't these two threads be put together? Think since it's somewhat unusual, keep it on the main. Notice some of us are reporting or asking the same thing.

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Being on the main it could easily drift away. Here its sort of pinned. Besides, all the Earth stuff is supposed to be in here, unless its an emergency or something.

I think those ash maps are underestimating how far it will travel.

I remember with Mt. St. Helens, we got 1/4 - 1/2 inch of ash in the Adirondacks in Upstate New York. (I recall brushing it off of our car.)

lafrteacher said:

I think those ash maps are underestimating how far it will travel.

I remember with Mt. St. Helens, we got 1/4 - 1/2 inch of ash in the Adirondacks in Upstate New York. (I recall brushing it off of our car.)

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What year was that lafrteacher, if you remember?

Vicki

Thanks Rex for keeping this thread updated.

HD

Just when I think its passing, we get another small bout. I'm going to start watching other volcanoes now.

Ive looked over several dozen Volcano seismo stations and bookmarked a few with EQs. I will keep an eye on these to showing signs of an increase and post if I see anything.

Time to fire up my other 4 monitors...:/

It all depends on the weather if it blows. The position of jet steam will be the main thing. But it would cause a small ice age.

Scientists eye unusual swarm of Yellowstone quakes


Monday, December 29, 2008
CHEYENNE, Wyo. - Yellowstone National Park was jostled by a host of small earthquakes for a third straight day Monday, and scientists watched closely to see whether the more than 250 tremors were a sign of something bigger to come. Swarms of small earthquakes happen frequently in Yellowstone, but it's very unusual for so many earthquakes to happen over several days, said Robert Smith, a professor of geophysics at the University of Utah.

"They're certainly not normal," Smith said. "We haven't had earthquakes in this energy or extent in many years."

Smith directs the Yellowstone Seismic Network, which operates seismic stations around the park. He said the quakes have ranged in strength from barely detectable to one of magnitude 3.8 that happened Saturday. A magnitude 4 quake is capable of producing moderate damage.

"This is an active volcanic and tectonic area, and these are the kinds of things we have to pay attention to," Smith said. "We might be seeing something precursory.

"Could it develop into a bigger fault or something related to hydrothermal activity? We don't know. That's what we're there to do, to monitor it for public safety."

The strongest of dozens of tremors Monday was a magnitude 3.3 quake shortly after noon. All the quakes were centered beneath the northwest end of Yellowstone Lake.

A park ranger based at the north end of the lake reported feeling nine quakes over a 24-hour period over the weekend, according to park spokeswoman Stacy Vallie. No damage was reported.

"There doesn't seem to be anything to be alarmed about," Vallie said.

Smith said it's difficult to say what might be causing the tremors. He pointed out that Yellowstone is the caldera of a volcano that last erupted 70,000 years ago.

He said Yellowstone remains very geologically active - and its famous geysers and hot springs are a reminder that a pool of magma still exists five to 10 miles underground.

"That's just the surface manifestation of the enormous amount of heat that's being released through the system," he said.

Yellowstone has had significant earthquakes as well as minor ones in recent decades. In 1959, a magnitude 7.5 quake near Hebgen Lake just west of the park triggered a landslide that killed 28 people.

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fair use http://home.peoplepc.com/psp/newsstory.asp?

Jeepers....this can change the course of human civilization faster than a global thermonuclear war. 6th Seal maybe?

Spirit Of Truth said:

Jeepers....this can change the course of human civilization faster than a global thermonuclear war. 6th Seal maybe?

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Well, it could change the color of the moon to the color of blood, it could cause signs in the animals, it could turn lakes to boil and to fire, it could cause the earth to shake, it could cause plague like symptoms, it could be..a pit of fire.

Rex Jackson said:

Well, it could change the color of the moon to the color of blood, it could cause signs in the animals, it could turn lakes to boil and to fire, it could cause the earth to shake, it could cause plague like symptoms, it could be..a pit of fire.

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I too want to thank you for continuing to post to this thread. You have an amazing knowledge of eq's. If you don't mind my asking, are you a seismologist, geologist,... (I'm one of the newest kids on the block.)

LittleYellowFlower said:

I too want to thank you for continuing to post to this thread. You have an amazing knowledge of eq's. If you don't mind my asking, are you a seismologist, geologist,... (I'm one of the newest kids on the block.)

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your welcome. I'm no seismologist / geologist but I have done work in both areas.

I'm not really doing anything out of the norm, I just like science and the Bible. I'm an engineer primarily, and I get called to do 'unusual' work. I do jobs most others don't want to do. Nothing illegal. Ive built 3-4 NBC shelters, several solar installations, first responder solar backups, etc. I have many friends, in high and low places. Much of my research is on the net, so I'm online allot.

FWIW. I think it's important to keep this content of Yellowstone in the context of all the other phenomena going on worldwide. Our 'global warming' pattern is present on the Moon as well as all the other planets. Our sun is in a Maunder Minimum phase. That heliopause? has been increasing dramatically in the last few decades... increased energy bursts have been reported as well. Some is due to increased attention, but most is due to cosmic causes. Why everything all at once? None of these events are happening in isolation, they are occurring together in an apparent complimentary pattern and increasing in frequency and extent... as if warming up for a much, much bigger event.

updated - better stats on the Sun's protective bubble

Well looking at things from a scientific standpoint, its obvious that there are stellar issues that need to be identified.

Looking at what we know from a scientific standpoint:

- All planets in our solar system, that have atmosphere, have heated up 2-5 deg.
- The last solar cycle displayed record breaking CMEs.
- Earth's weather is a mess and just about every record has been broken in the last 4 years.
- Earths EQs have become more noticeable with 9.0s, volvanoes, tsunamis and more.
- The Suns protective shield has lowered by 25%. This happened over the last 10 years. (reason why everything is heating up?)
- Earth protective shield now has two large gaps in it that was not previously detected. This will be problems during the next solar cycle.
- With both protective shields being reduced, the next solar cycle go do some damage on Earth.
- All the planets are supposed to align up behind the Sun in 2012 placing the Sun between the planets and center of our galaxy. I think this is supposed to be the first time this happened in 13,000 years.

Looking at what we know from a Biblical and prophetic standpoint:

- The Bibles says "you will know when end times are near because there will be signs in Earth, man and the animals"
- The Bible says "there may be periods where the sun will scorch the earth"
- The Bible says "the stars will fall from the sky" (proton storms do this). So would a pole reversal while viewing stars at night, and comet tail debris.
- The Bible says "the moon will turn the color of blood". Volcanic ash may do this. So would arouras.
- The Bibles says, "rivers could burn and boil". Again, volcanoes, CMEs.
- The Mayan calendar stops in 2012
- "Mountains, oceans and stars will be moved out of their place". A pole reversal would do this.

Note: Many non-bible readers get spooked and turned off when they hear certain phrases such as "end times". End times doesn't mean the end of all things. It means "the end of things the way we are used to knowing them". Many of these changes could even be for the better. If you were a Myan, it could even mean the end of the Calander..The point I'm trying to make is to keep a scientific view about things at it will help much more.

Now, myths are well known about planet X, Nibiru, Wormwood (all the same name for a 10th planet) and we have yet to confirm such a body. A approaching planet could probably do these things to Earth as well. Another thing to keep in mind, a sphere has three axis points. X, Y and Z. To reverse the X axis would be to reverse the poles.

Another thing to note. I was told that scientists recently released a report stating "A pole won't be as bad as we originally thought and could very well be survivable". I didn't read this personally, it came from conversation I was having with a friend.

I look at the bible three different ways. As the word of God, a babysitter manual for humans, and a very old science textbook. It used to be hard to tell if prophecies in the Bible had any substance, and much speculation had to be used to connect the dots. This 'non-sound fact' dilemma continually hurt credibility of those warnings but not so much any more. At every turn I seem to see these warnings coming true and to pass.

Another thing that has my full attention is Washington. For the last few years they have been acting like the world is coming to an end. Grabbing up money, stockpiling FEMA coffins, and more. IMO, all these things combined, Washington, prophecies, and science, spell a big fat heads-up and warrant some serious investigation. Thats what I do. I investigate.

Back to Yellowstone, this is a big bear. When this bear starts moving around in its cave, all the smaller bears should become restless too. This is why I'm trying to watch them as well. If there is something coming, we should be able to tell by EQs.

Activity has really slowed down, not just the number of eqs but the harmonic tremors on the seismo activity is very quiet compared to the last few days. Maybe this was just magma shifting and rearranging things a bit. I love this stuff, so sort of disappointed, nothing to follow right now (wouldn't like a big eruption though).

I just toddled over to the University of Utah quake site, and it's started up again, with a decent sized quake, too.

MAG . . DATE . LOCAL-TIME . LAT . . . LON . .DEPTH . LOCATION
. . . . . y/m/d . . . h:m:s . . . deg . . . deg . . .km

3.4 2008/12/31 02:02:29 44.538N 110.356W 0.4 61 km (38 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
2.5 2008/12/31 01:58:12 44.546N 110.375W 0.4 59 km (37 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
2.4 2008/12/30 12:05:14 44.530N 110.348W 0.5 62 km (38 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
2.8 2008/12/30 04:59:07 44.533N 110.374W 0.9 60 km (37 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
1.5 2008/12/30 02:17:43 44.525N 110.379W 0.0 59 km (37 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
1.4 2008/12/30 02:10:20 44.527N 110.380W 0.6 59 km (37 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
0.8 2008/12/30 02:05:33 44.498N 110.389W 2.4 60 km (37 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
0.9 2008/12/29 23:05:34 44.477N 110.374W 2.9 62 km (38 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
1.0 2008/12/29 21:02:27 44.503N 110.390W 2.4 59 km (37 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
0.3 2008/12/29 20:45:59 44.517N 110.381W 2.2 60 km (37 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
1.1 2008/12/29 20:16:31 44.524N 110.406W 1.6 57 km (36 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
1.5 2008/12/29 20:11:35 44.552N 110.359W 2.1 60 km (38 mi) E of West Yellowstone, MT
1.0 2008/12/29 20:08:25 44.499N 110.379W 2.2 60 km (37 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
1.2 2008/12/29 20:02:08 44.595N 110.318W 13.0 56 km (35 mi) SSW of Cooke City-Silver Gate, MT
1.1 2008/12/29 19:50:02 44.787N 110.996W 7.2 16 km (10 mi) NNE of West Yellowstone, MT
0.9 2008/12/29 19:47:07 44.788N 110.994W 7.4 17 km (10 mi) NNE of West Yellowstone, MT
1.2 2008/12/29 19:44:42 44.788N 110.995W 7.2 17 km (10 mi) NNE of West Yellowstone, MT
0.5 2008/12/29 19:38:20 44.798N 110.988W 4.0 18 km (11 mi) NNE of West Yellowstone, MT
1.2 2008/12/29 19:29:17 44.712N 111.147W 2.5 7 km ( 4 mi) NNW of West Yellowstone, MT
0.9 2008/12/29 19:26:29 44.767N 110.959W 1.8 16 km (10 mi) NE of West Yellowstone, MT
1.6 2008/12/29 19:25:29 44.787N 111.001W 7.5 16 km (10 mi) NNE of West Yellowstone, MT
1.3 2008/12/29 19:13:36 44.516N 110.360W 2.5 61 km (38 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
1.0 2008/12/29 19:00:37 44.553N 110.341W 2.2 61 km (38 mi) SSW of Cooke City-Silver Gate, MT
1.0 2008/12/29 18:51:00 44.517N 110.354W 1.8 62 km (38 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
1.3 2008/12/29 18:47:56 44.527N 110.381W 1.1 59 km (37 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
2.3 2008/12/29 18:47:26 44.532N 110.359W 2.0 61 km (38 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
1.7 2008/12/29 18:35:08 44.530N 110.361W 2.1 61 km (38 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
1.5 2008/12/29 18:15:37 44.522N 110.360W 2.1 61 km (38 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
2.1 2008/12/29 17:51:20 44.505N 110.373W 0.2 61 km (38 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
1.0 2008/12/29 17:41:35 44.522N 110.361W 1.8 61 km (38 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
3.3 2008/12/29 12:14:49 44.521N 110.369W 1.8 60 km (38 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
3.1 2008/12/28 12:55:17 44.511N 110.353W 0.7 62 km (38 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
3.0 2008/12/28 12:32:15 44.511N 110.356W 2.7 62 km (38 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
3.2 2008/12/28 02:23:57 44.511N 110.361W 0.4 61 km (38 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
3.9 2008/12/27 22:15:56 44.502N 110.366W 0.3 61 km (38 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
3.3 2008/12/27 15:30:03 44.498N 110.358W 4.3 62 km (39 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
3.2 2008/12/27 13:26:27 44.505N 110.364W 2.4 61 km (38 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
3.5 2008/12/27 13:17:33 44.488N 110.357W 4.1 62 km (39 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT
3.0 2008/12/27 11:23:07 44.495N 110.364W 2.8 62 km (38 mi) ESE of West Yellowstone, MT

http://www.seis.utah.edu/req2webdir/recenteqs/Maps/Yellowstone.html

Well I think we need to be watching to the lake to start melting next. Magma seems to want out. This is different from St. Helens a few year ago before it blew because this has a surge type thing going. Hopefully it if erupts it will be a small eruption, but whats spookier, is how long ago it was since the last eruption. It seems as if everything that can be going wrong these days is, and all at the same time.

Rex Jackson said:

Well I think we need to be watching to the lake to start melting next.

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Is there a web cam there?????
Cause i can watch from here....
Best!motsfo